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I just don't get it.

Anybody but Bush 2004

because Bush is a fool and a dumb...donkey

We never declared war on Iraq.

Did congress issue a declaration of war?

The last "official" war was WWII.

because Bush is a fool and a dumb...donkey

No he's a dumb elephant.

What I can't understand is why congress went along with Bush's plan.

because Bush is a fool and a dumb...donkey

No he's a dumb elephant.

What I can't understand is why congress went along with Bush's plan.

Many of hte senetors don't have access to intelligence for a variety of reasons. Some of them sit and the rest take their opinions for granted.

So if all the Intel says Sadaam has nukes ready to go then you are going to think "Let's get the bastard!"

After the major fighting is done, you are then told Opps we made a mistake! :roll:

In the scheme of things, the main reasons were oil and money. Haliburnt(ie Dick Cheney) is making gobs of money with helping to "rebuild" Iraq.

I wonder if the Christian fronts are going to offer "aid" over there?

Ahh well....

I wonder if the Christian fronts are going to offer "aid" over there?

Ahh well....

I think they already are. Didn't four baptist missionaries get killed offering "aid"?

If one of the main reasons for fighting Iraq was to obtain access to cheaper oil, why has the price of gas risen so high? Seems to me that the price should be closer to $1 per gallon than $2 if that were the case.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

First, Christian aid relief groups have had a fair but small presence... it's actually fairly embarrassing, actually. I mean, they're willing to help out in Zaire and Sudan when Christians are killed, but when some Muslims are only facing starvation, overzealous American troops, and suicide bombers, they get cold feet. "We have other priorities."

Second, the reasons for going to war with Iraq and not Saudi Arabia are complex. The 9/11 hijackers did not have the support of the whole of the Saudi government- some factions support bin Laden, some support the United States. We would have lost the support of the pro-U.S. factions had we invaded Saudi Arabia, and we could have expected a mass insurgency on the part of American Muslims for... I dunno... invading THE MOST HOLY COUNTRY TO MUSLIMS! I mean, Jesus! Think for a second!

Iraq was a more tempting target because: 1) Halliburton can give nice kickbacks, 2) Bush/Cheney supporters were more willing to donate to a wartime President who takes the battles to "the enemy", 3) People like war, 4) Reconstruction contracts are sweet deals, 5) Stirring up anger in the Arab world keeps Bush in the office longer. After all, "We're in the middle of a war- let's not change course midstream." Yeah, and he got us into it, the asshole.

They didn't, and I didn't say that did.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

Well, it's possible that at some point in the future they may have been in a position to possibly either buy or make weapons that could have potentially been used against us...probably.

Regardless, they were thinking evil thoughts (namely that they were a sovergn power) and we couldn't be having with that.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

I didn't say the Saudis. I said Saudis...

But the Saudis rule Saudi Arabia and the Saudis. Just because terrorists came from Saudi Arabia dosen't mean that the Saudis are liable for it. Heck, Taliban Johnny came from the USA but that dosen't mean we're going to go shooting up all of our young white males.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

Well, it's possible that at some point in the future they may have been in a position to possibly either buy or make weapons that could have potentially been used against us...probably.

Regardless, they were thinking evil thoughts (namely that they were a sovergn power) and we couldn't be having with that.

You'll need to take on a really big chunk of the world soon if this is the logic behind your warmongering...

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

Well, it's possible that at some point in the future they may have been in a position to possibly either buy or make weapons that could have potentially been used against us...probably.

Regardless, they were thinking evil thoughts (namely that they were a sovergn power) and we couldn't be having with that.

You'll need to take on a really big chunk of the world soon if this is the logic behind your warmongering...

Ain't mine, dude. I was making a joke that went horribly wrong. Let's never speak of it again.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

Well, it's possible that at some point in the future they may have been in a position to possibly either buy or make weapons that could have potentially been used against us...probably.

Regardless, they were thinking evil thoughts (namely that they were a sovergn power) and we couldn't be having with that.

You'll need to take on a really big chunk of the world soon if this is the logic behind your warmongering...

Ain't mine, dude. I was making a joke that went horribly wrong. Let's never speak of it again.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

Well, it's possible that at some point in the future they may have been in a position to possibly either buy or make weapons that could have potentially been used against us...probably.

Regardless, they were thinking evil thoughts (namely that they were a sovergn power) and we couldn't be having with that.

You'll need to take on a really big chunk of the world soon if this is the logic behind your warmongering...

Ain't mine, dude. I was making a joke that went horribly wrong. Let's never speak of it again.

The Saudis didn't attack us. People from Saudi Arabia did, but its not exactly the same thing.

When did Iraq attack the USA?

Well, it's possible that at some point in the future they may have been in a position to possibly either buy or make weapons that could have potentially been used against us...probably.

Regardless, they were thinking evil thoughts (namely that they were a sovergn power) and we couldn't be having with that.

You'll need to take on a really big chunk of the world soon if this is the logic behind your warmongering...

Ain't mine, dude. I was making a joke that went horribly wrong. Let's never speak of it again.

But the Saudis rule Saudi Arabia and the Saudis. Just because terrorists came from Saudi Arabia dosen't mean that the Saudis are liable for it. Heck, Taliban Johnny came from the USA but that dosen't mean we're going to go shooting up all of our young white males.

stop rambling

Michael Moore's new film will explain why Bush couldn't bash the Saudis.

Oops...it's been hijacked by Dubya's media buddies in Disneyworld.

But the Saudis rule Saudi Arabia and the Saudis. Just because terrorists came from Saudi Arabia dosen't mean that the Saudis are liable for it. Heck, Taliban Johnny came from the USA but that dosen't mean we're going to go shooting up all of our young white males.

stop rambling


He's not rambling, He is telling the truth and you can't seem to handle it.

Michael Moore's new film will explain why Bush couldn't bash the Saudis.

Oops...it's been hijacked by Dubya's media buddies in Disneyworld.


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Michael Moore is a liar and an Idiot who is hated by 90% of America. Disney runs miramax and they didn't air the movie because it was a load of crap trying to make Bush out to be Bin Laden best butt buddy, which is total crap!

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Oh. Goodie. You're back.

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Giving me intelligent responses as always? Sorry you can't handle the truth.

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Oh. Goodie. You're back.


Giving me intelligent responses as always? Sorry you can't hanlde the truth.

Sorry you can't spell handle.

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Oh. Goodie. You're back.


Giving me intelligent responses as always? Sorry you can't hanlde the truth.

Sorry you can't spell handle.



Avoiding the topic again are we? I told the truth and C-Bass and his buddies lied.

Trollfight! Everyone!

Avoiding the topic again are we? I told the truth and C-Bass and his buddies lied.

Oh, really? The truth, eh? And exactly which truth was that, that you're a White House shill or that you never successfully refuted any of the arguments from the other thread, relying on "I'm right you're wrong" logic?

Avoiding the topic again are we? I told the truth and C-Bass and his buddies lied.

Oh, really? The truth, eh? And exactly which truth was that, that you're a White House shill or that you never successfully refuted any of the arguments from the other thread, relying on "I'm right you're wrong" logic?


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I see where you are trying to take this, Have fun talking to yourself troll.

Trollfight! Everyone!

How in God's name can I be a troll with only just over 700 posts? I'm just bored and slightly annoyed. :D

Michael Moore's new film will explain why Bush couldn't bash the Saudis.

Oops...it's been hijacked by Dubya's media buddies in Disneyworld.


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Michael Moore is a liar and an Idiot who is hated by 90% of America. Disney runs miramax and they didn't air the movie because it was a load of crap trying to make Bush out to be Bin Laden best butt buddy, which is total crap!

Allow me to deconstruct your arguments.

First of all, Michael Moore's books have been bestsellers. He may be hated by a significant percentage of the population, but not 90%. He couldn't and still get those book sales. Bowling for Columbine had some of the highest grosses for an independent movie in America on record.

Second, it is an indisputable fact that the Bush family has deep connections to the bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia. Governor Jeb Bush of Florida lived not far from some of the bin Laden members who lived in Florida. Bin Laden money helped finance a number of the Bush family economic ventures, and vice versa. They have been regular guests at the White House.

Third, you've judged the movie before even seeing it. Regardless of however well-founded the accusations in the movie may have been, regardless of its artistic merit, regardless of the research that went into the movie, and regardless of the rightness of the accusations, you've dismissed it as a pile of crap. That's incredibly, incredibly stupid. I mean, I may hate Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, and other "conservative" media presences, but at least I've bothered to read their works before passing judgment on them. You, apparently, are not willing to do any such thing. That says a lot about your maturity and intelligence, or lack thereof.

Iraq had oil and wasn't all that well liked by their neighbours. Attacking Saudi-Arabia would have shut off USA oil lines almost completely, the price on gasoline would have shot through the roof, and Bush would have faced a political harakiri (Japanese suicide method to reclaim one's honor by dying for it).

Iraq had oil and wasn't all that well liked by their neighbours. Attacking Saudi-Arabia would have shut off USA oil lines almost completely, the price on gasoline would have shot through the roof, and Bush would have faced a political harakiri (Japanese suicide method to reclaim one's honor by dying for it).I thought it was seppuku?

We never declared war on Iraq.

Did congress issue a declaration of war?

The last "official" war was WWII.

You really need to read the Hague Treaties on the rules of war..lol A war is declared under International law by either A) A declaration or B) An Ultimatum.

Don't try and tell me that the USA never gave Saddam an ultimatum.. ;)

P.S. Are you going to make me prove this too? lol If I'm not mistaken it's Hague 3(1) but I'm not 100% if that's the right code.. if you need me to prove it to you, I'll look it up..lol but I'm pretty sure ..

Michael Moore's new film will explain why Bush couldn't bash the Saudis.

Oops...it's been hijacked by Dubya's media buddies in Disneyworld.


:roll:


Michael Moore is a liar and an Idiot who is hated by 90% of America. Disney runs miramax and they didn't air the movie because it was a load of crap trying to make Bush out to be Bin Laden best butt buddy, which is total crap!

Allow me to deconstruct your arguments.

Second, it is an indisputable fact that the Bush family has deep connections to the bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia. Governor Jeb Bush of Florida lived not far from some of the bin Laden members who lived in Florida. Bin Laden money helped finance a number of the Bush family economic ventures, and vice versa. They have been regular guests at the White House..

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/saudi.html

Enough said!

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Oh. Goodie. You're back.


Giving me intelligent responses as always? Sorry you can't hanlde the truth.

Sorry you can't spell handle.



Avoiding the topic again are we? I told the truth and C-Bass and his buddies lied.

that's her, and how did i lie

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Oh. Goodie. You're back.


Giving me intelligent responses as always? Sorry you can't hanlde the truth.

Sorry you can't spell handle.



Avoiding the topic again are we? I told the truth and C-Bass and his buddies lied.

that's her, and how did i lie

You didn't. It's him. He's got issues.

Michael Moore's new film will explain why Bush couldn't bash the Saudis.

Oops...it's been hijacked by Dubya's media buddies in Disneyworld.


:roll:


Michael Moore is a liar and an Idiot who is hated by 90% of America. Disney runs miramax and they didn't air the movie because it was a load of crap trying to make Bush out to be Bin Laden best butt buddy, which is total crap!
90% don't like Michael Moore? His documentary Bowling For Columbine is the higest grossing documentary ever. Someone must like him?

yea, i think its pretty much established that bush declared war for 2 reasons (and yes, it was an actual war, otherwise they wouldnt be able to hold "prisoners of war"...and the soldiers wouldnt be able to have fun molesting them and such....anyway, 2 reasons
1)to make daddy proud: he was doing what daddy couldnt finish, because daddy wasnt stupid enough to finish it

2) iraqi's are sitting on the biggest oil operation, and they are charging americans so very much for it nowadays, bush wants to take over another multi-billion dollar industry to spend more money on there already unstopable military (maybe they should invest more money in education and health like us canadians) :D

I see. Established? How is that exactly established. Because a bunch of lefties think so?

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Giving me intelligent responses as always? Sorry you can't handle the truth.

An intelligent response like "blah blah blah" perhaps?

That was a pretty good film actually - you know the one with Jack Nicholson as that army guy who went "You want the truth??? You can't handle the truth!!!" I figure that it was from that man at that very moment, that many war advocating Republicans took their lead.

Iraq had oil and wasn't all that well liked by their neighbours. Attacking Saudi-Arabia would have shut off USA oil lines almost completely, the price on gasoline would have shot through the roof, and Bush would have faced a political harakiri (Japanese suicide method to reclaim one's honor by dying for it).I thought it was seppuku?

I've heard both names.