NationStates Jolt Archive

"They will turn {their} ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

2 Timothy 4:4

Ah yes, the myth that the world is in imminent danger to fall pray en masse to terrorists :lol:

Ah yes, the myth that the world is in imminent danger to fall pray en masse to terrorists :lol:

"They will turn {their} ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."

2 Timothy 4:4

The myths propagated by Bush?

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World. The terrorists have existed prior to Bush you know?..or did you think they magically popped up in opposition to Bush Jr's Presidency?

They've been around for a long time, and the world has tried to ignore them. But George Bush isn't just keeping us abreast of the terrorist threat; he's trying to create a sense of overriding fear in the American public for his own personal political advantage. A frightened American public is good news for him, since he and his party seem to be claiming that they are the only ones who can protect us from terrorism. Indeed, Bush has made the September 11 attacks the centerpiece of his reelection strategy, showing images of the dead in his campaign commercials and attacking John Kerry for votes against Defense expenditures (they do not bother to tell you what ELSE might have been attached to those defense bills in terms of pork-barrel projects).

Bush has done some good things in the fight against terrorism, but he's made a lot of mistakes as well.

It is not just the politicians creating an ultra-high climate of fear, much of the press is to blame as well. I mean in the UK, if you read the Sun, Express or Daily Racist (oops i mean Mail) then you would think that every other person of non-white origin that comes onto this island wants to bomb the crap out of us, burn down Parliment and build a Great Mosque on that site. Almost all of these people are here to make money for theselves and to give thier children chances to live lives that thier own parents could only dream of.

"well, you've seen the disease, suffering and decay,
and you whisper to yourself blissfully "it's okay"
and you still refuse the possibility
that the dead are better off than we"

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World. The terrorists have existed prior to Bush you know?..or did you think they magically popped up in opposition to Bush Jr's Presidency?

So, the home of Wahabbism is Saudi Arabia and an ally of US! The birthplace of Osama who was a once-ally? There were not called "Terrorists" before they become enemies of the US? The US created their own little monster.

These "Terrorists" were once the US allies in the fight against the evil empire (USSR) in the middle east. Now Russia is an ally, these former-allies are now the enemy. Thank the CIA for training Osama for us, eh?

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World. The terrorists have existed prior to Bush you know?..or did you think they magically popped up in opposition to Bush Jr's Presidency?

You've made an awful lot of assumptions based on my posting an out of context Bible quote and rather naughtily refrained from adding a commentary.

Myths, I was thinking of Weapons of Mass Destruction, Iraq's nuclear capabilities, Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium from Niger, 45 minutes weapons readiness, the myth of having "won" the war in Afghanistan, the myth of caring about human rights, when countries like Saudi Arabia and Uzbekistan are courted as allies, the refusal to acknowledge past complicity with Saddam's regime bla bla bla bla bla..

One does not deny the existence of psudeo-Islamic terrorism or it's threat.

And having lived through and had my family suffer personally in La Volencia in Colombia, and having lived through IRA attacks on Britain I'm well aware that terrorism did not spring into existence one sunny Tuesday morning.

Thank you

In view of his devotion to Christian supremacy, I wonder if Dubya The Burning Shrub is hip to Deuteronomy chapter 23 verses 1-2, where we get this choice insight into the rules on who can't enter into the congregation of the Lord (and thus will be damned for eternity):

"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD."

I could make a very unkind point about Dubya's right to enter the Lord's house in view of this passage, but I like to pretend I am above that sort of thing so I will content myself with having implied it very thoroughly. Nooch.

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World. The terrorists have existed prior to Bush you know?..or did you think they magically popped up in opposition to Bush Jr's Presidency?


THANK YOU!

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World.

really? current statistics show more people are injured or killed by each of the following than are harmed by "terror":
cancer
heart disease
AIDS
domestic violence
car accidents
attacks by domesticated animals
choking on household items

the leading cause of injury and death in children is preventable accidents, like falling off a bike. the leading cause of death for teenagers is suicide.

i think all of those are greater threats to the Western world than Muslim extremists, especially since all we have to do to make the extremists leave us alone is get the hell out of their countries. if we spent our Iraq bill trying to help our own people we would do a hell of a lot more good for everybody, quite frankly.

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World.

really? current statistics show more people are injured or killed by each of the following than are harmed by "terror":
cancer
heart disease
AIDS
domestic violence
car accidents
attacks by domesticated animals
choking on household items

the leading cause of injury and death in children is preventable accidents, like falling off a bike. the leading cause of death for teenagers is suicide.

i think all of those are greater threats to the Western world than Muslim extremists, especially since all we have to do to make the extremists leave us alone is get the hell out of their countries. if we spent our Iraq bill trying to help our own people we would do a hell of a lot more good for everybody, quite frankly.


If you really believe that if we just leave the Middle East everything will be ok, You are in for a rude awakening! Do yourself a favor and go do some research on these people before you run your mouth!

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World.

really? current statistics show more people are injured or killed by each of the following than are harmed by "terror":
cancer
heart disease
AIDS
domestic violence
car accidents
attacks by domesticated animals
choking on household items

the leading cause of injury and death in children is preventable accidents, like falling off a bike. the leading cause of death for teenagers is suicide.

i think all of those are greater threats to the Western world than Muslim extremists, especially since all we have to do to make the extremists leave us alone is get the hell out of their countries. if we spent our Iraq bill trying to help our own people we would do a hell of a lot more good for everybody, quite frankly.


If you really believe that if we just leave the Middle East everything will be ok, You are in for a rude awakening! Do yourself a favor and go do some research on these people before you run your mouth!

i don't think "everyone will be okay." that was exactly my point...we've got so many more problems than the Middle East, and we should probably take care of our own before we starting claiming we can solve theirs. i mean, when 1/3 American women report having been assaulted by a domestic partner it seems odd for us to be claiming we can fix the situation for women in the Muslim world. when over a hundred thousand children die of starvation each year in America, the richest country in the world, it seems strange that we think we know better than the Iraqis on how to set up their country.

don't get me wrong, i think America is a wonderful place, but i also think we need to fix a hell of a lot over here before we start trying to run other countries, too. do a little research on America before you start trying to swim with the big fishies, honey buns, or you're liable to look something of an ass.

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World.

Run for the hills! A bunch of poverty-stricken muslims are angry with us!

Excuse me..myths??...radical Muslim fundamentalism in the Wahabbist school of thought is the primary threat now faced by the Western World.

Run for the hills! A bunch of poverty-stricken muslims are angry with us!
statistically speaking, if you are an American citizen you are more likely to be killed by slipping in the shower than by a Muslim extremist.

I think s/he was being sarcastic...

Can anyone point me in the direction of the thread where Lex Luger met his untimely fate?

I don't know where it is. But I'm trying to cause Spaam's fate because he's flaming me. I need to find some followers to come back to all the rude stuff he says.

When the US pulled out of Somalia it encouraged Osama to attack the US harder because he saw the US as cowards who would run if hit hard enough.

Like it or not, we are in the Middle East and can't get out of there.

I don't know where you get your stats about the number of children dying each year of starvation but I think they're bogus and/or exaggerated. In fact, I know they are wrong.

Cancer kills thousands of people yearly, so does diabetes, so does car accidents. The government cannot fight this with guns and bombs. But it invests billions searching for the cure to cancer and AIDS and other diseases. It puts out "Don't drink and drive" commercials, it cracks down on bars that let patrons go home plastered. Victims of domestic abuse are given huge amounts of counselling and ad campaigns urge women to report abuse. Dog owners are being cracked down on for letting their dogs run wild with stiffer penalties.

Terrorism can't be fought with ads or abuse counsellors. Terrorism is fought with guns and bombs. So you see the US is responding to every threat, in its own way.

The US tried to remain isolationist in the last two world wars but in the end it was impossible to remain impartial. With the advancement of global communications, transport and markets the world is a very much smaller place almost impossible for the U.S to pursue policies of isolationism. Whilst I disagree with many aspects of U.S foreign policy as it currently stands I do not believe than effectively withdrawing from the world is a sensible option. The U.S has a major role to play in securing peace and stability and this will not be achieved by blinkering yourself from the world.