NationStates Jolt Archive

http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/11028/view

instead of just posting these petitions, why not open some discussion on the topics? share your views and debate with people...you'll get much more interest then if you just plug the petitions and leave it at that.

ok. well I think the U.N. is biased. They help Palestinian terrorists, yet wont lift a finger to help Christians being enslaved by Muslims in Sudan, or havingtheir churches burned in Nigeria.

Petition to end U.N. funding until they help Christians
Huh? The UN isn't in the business of helping any individual religious group. I think you're missing the point of what it's for.

What??? End UN funding??? No way will I support this

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

No you're not. Your taxes are going to the UN, whether you want them to or not.

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

ahhhhh. so it's not that the UN is biased, it's that you are and you don't like that they don't share your bias. gotcha.

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.
Sigh. Here we go. The ubiquitous mysterious invisible force is invoked yet again. :roll:

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

ahhhhh. so it's not that the UN is biased, it's that you are and you don't like that they don't share your bias. gotcha.

Same reason people don't like Fox News. I find it hard to believe the UN has left wing bias, since it is pretty much controlled by the US. Although it does have a mandate to stop war. :roll:

Do you have any articles on this?

i am amazed none of you see the blatant antiChristian antiIsrael bias the UN has. Thankfully somer of us do and we are workig to expose their works.

Why even worry about the UN? None of the proposals ever get enough support to become potential resolutions.

im talking about the real UN not nationstates UN

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

Its funny because the U.N is centrist and Neutral. Shows how far bent to the right you are.

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

Its funny because the U.N is centrist and Neutral. Shows how far bent to the right you are.

neutral?? LOL out of all their resolutions themajority are against Israel or the USA. Not one resolution to help the persecuted Christians.

Do you have any articles on this?

well, you can pretty much just Google "UN bias" and get a whole bunch of articles where people accuse the UN of everything from supporting terrorists to funding genocides. i myself found articles saying the UN is both too lenient and not lenient enough about human rights violations, that they support and also oppose biotechnology, and they apparently are both supporting and hindering women's rights. everybody has a different take on it, and obviously any organization will have one bias or another, but personally i think they do enough good to warrant my tax money. at least, if my tax dollars are going to be used to promote Christian marital values (http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1057433/posts) then i can't say the UN is a worse expense.

Ever think they ight be against Isreal for a reason? But lets not get into that. They arent interested in helping chrsitians because its not a Major problem. Their Purpose is to mediate relations between nations. You need to complain to one of its sub Agencies.

neutral?? LOL out of all their resolutions themajority are against Israel or the USA. Not one resolution to help the persecuted Christians.
No, only a few are. The vast majority of their resolutions are so mundane, you never hear about them. And I don't see Christians being persecuted in that many places. Historically, most persecution has been done by Christians, against other religions, such as jews, muslims, various lesser-known systems of spirituality and superstition, etc.

neutral?? LOL out of all their resolutions themajority are against Israel or the USA. Not one resolution to help the persecuted Christians.
No, only a few are. The vast majority of their resolutions are so mundane, you never hear about them. And I don't see Christians being persecuted in that many places. Historically, most persecution has been done by Christians, against other religions, such as jews, muslims, various lesser-known systems of spirituality and superstition, etc.

Yes, the 3 billion Christians in the world are being persecuted by the 3.001 billion non-Christians, who have all united to subjugate the Christian population.

http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/11028/view

Can you offer any proof that an e-petition has EVER worked?

I'm all for completely abolishing the UN, though. They've outlived their
usefulness, if they ever really had any. Let the new and improved EU handle the world's Socialism needs.

The UN is definately biased towards the left. Its mostly because the countries in the UN security council are leftist. France and Germany to name two. I would say that the UN does favor Islam, but i wouldn't say it is wholy against Christianity, i think its that it just doesn't care about Christians. With judiasm its less "Anti-Semitism" then it is "Anti-Military". And since both America and Israel have a large military they are prime targets for the leftists. Which for some reason they don't (the members of the UN sec council) take issue with because using M1A2 abrams to clean out an enemy camp is just wrong, where strapping dynamite to yourself and running into a cafe to blow 30 people up is fine and dandy... theres my take on it.

This thread is getting towards an all time low I think. Petition to end UN fundings because it's biased and not helping christian slaves in Sudan. *sighs*

Funny that the UN always seems to be the UN security council in these discussions. Here: I give you the UN (http://www.un.org/aboutun/chart.html).

All it takes is for one thing people do not agree with and they automatically assume the group involved is evil and bias. Of course the UN is bias, it is bias in favour of the majority, in other words if most nations like a proposal it should pass, also meaning the UN bias will change dependant on the governments at the head of the major UN powers. The US and the UK although some will disagree.

This thread is getting towards an all time low I think. Petition to end UN fundings because it's biased and not helping christian slaves in Sudan. *sighs*

Funny that the UN always seems to be the UN security council in these discussions. Here: I give you the UN (http://www.un.org/aboutun/chart.html).

isn't it nice that the e-petitions never do anything? they keep uninformed people busy, and they never get in the way of the real world :).

All it takes is for one thing people do not agree with and they automatically assume the group involved is evil and bias. Of course the UN is bias, it is bias in favour of the majority [snip]
Is it just me, or does that remind everyone of democracy? Nah, must be my imagination . . .

This thread is getting towards an all time low I think. Petition to end UN fundings because it's biased and not helping christian slaves in Sudan. *sighs*

Funny that the UN always seems to be the UN security council in these discussions. Here: I give you the UN (http://www.un.org/aboutun/chart.html).

isn't it nice that the e-petitions never do anything? they keep uninformed people busy, and they never get in the way of the real world :).

Hey it also gives us something to talk about, and it uses up space in cyberspace that otherwise may be used for people saying how to make a bomb. :lol:

This thread is getting towards an all time low I think. Petition to end UN fundings because it's biased and not helping christian slaves in Sudan. *sighs*

Funny that the UN always seems to be the UN security council in these discussions. Here: I give you the UN (http://www.un.org/aboutun/chart.html).

isn't it nice that the e-petitions never do anything? they keep uninformed people busy, and they never get in the way of the real world :).

Hey it also gives us something to talk about, and it uses up space in cyberspace that otherwise may be used for people saying how to make a bomb. :lol:

indeed. bless those internet petitions, they're just so bloody useful!

All it takes is for one thing people do not agree with and they automatically assume the group involved is evil and bias. Of course the UN is bias, it is bias in favour of the majority [snip]
Is it just me, or does that remind everyone of democracy? Nah, must be my imagination . . .

Yep, I tried to point that out, obviously not too successfully.

Bring back Thatcherism

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

ahhhhh. so it's not that the UN is biased, it's that you are and you don't like that they don't share your bias. gotcha.

Same reason people don't like Fox News. I find it hard to believe the UN has left wing bias, since it is pretty much controlled by the US. Although it does have a mandate to stop war. :roll:

Do you have any articles on this?A nazi doesn't see another nazi as having a bias, because they see things the same way. Likewise, right-wingers like myself don't see bias on FNC and left-wingers don't see bias in the UN and CNN.

Secondly, the US doesn't control the UN, we just foot most of their bill.

Finally, I must agree. The UN has done such a fabulous job at stopping wars. :lol:

Yes I agree, people will see bias against them, but I do believe the US pretty much controls the UN, they control the most cash, they began it, they don't have to do what it says, and if the US stops giving money it is simply bye bye UN.

http://www.e-thepeople.org/petition/11028/view

Can you offer any proof that an e-petition has EVER worked?

I'm all for completely abolishing the UN, though. They've outlived their
usefulness, if they ever really had any. Let the new and improved EU handle the world's Socialism needs.I hear ya! Down with the corrupt World-"Governing" Body!

Yes I agree, people will see bias against them, but I do believe the US pretty much controls the UN, they control the most cash, they began it, they don't have to do what it says, and if the US stops giving money it is simply bye bye UN.You make some good points. THe UN is basically screwed if the US leaves. However, the US starting it doesn't mean much. The US started the League of Nations and never joined. Also, the US isn't the only nation to not do what the UN says. There's this little place in the mideast that's called Iraq, see...

Reading this topic, I've come up with an idea for a new one: "The Post-UN World"

and And up with Another!

Kofi Annan will see this petition and say to himself: " "Hotguy4U" and "SwEeTgRL12" both signed this petition...Maybe I better start supporting genocide"

Kofi Annan will see this petition and say to himself: " "Hotguy4U" and "SwEeTgRL12" both signed this petition...Maybe I better start supporting genocide" :lol:

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

Its funny because the U.N is centrist and Neutral. Shows how far bent to the right you are.

Ah, but the question of neutrality is always a matter of subjective opinion.

Finally, I must agree. The UN has done such a fabulous job at stopping wars. :lol:

The main point of the U.N. was originally to prevent major wars, such as World War I and II. Admittedly, it hasn't done a good job of stopping -all- wars, but who could? The U.N. has, from the beginning, at least lessened the number of conflicts considerably. Not to mention all the humanitarian aid they've brought.

Though I wish they'd do more about that shindig going down in the Congo. You know, the one that's killed more people than World War II?

As always, -please- correct me if I'm wrong on any points.

well I wont support the UN because of their leftist motives, and Im making sure my taxes dont either.

Its funny because the U.N is centrist and Neutral. Shows how far bent to the right you are.

The UN centrist and neutral?...For mercy's sake they allowed Libya the chair of the Human Rights Commission...if that doesn't tell me something..nothing will

As soon as christians decide to start listening to their own bible, I'd love to help them out. It seems most of them don't even read the 10 commandments, or they feel the commandments are open to a very loose interpretation when someone else has something they want.

Lumping christians together as a group is counterintuitive because most of them, like most people, are useless and not worth helping. I do have a great deal of respect, however, for the few christians who try hard to follow their beliefs. For now though i'm not letting anyone I know go near a priest.

TAJ

Pah, if you're going to make a petition regarding Indonesia, how about one to end the oppression in West Papua?

No evidence at all presented to show any reason to believe your ridiculous assertion.

No sign that any petition would achieve anything.

Hohum.

:roll:

neutral?? LOL out of all their resolutions themajority are against Israel or the USA. Not one resolution to help the persecuted Christians.
No, only a few are. The vast majority of their resolutions are so mundane, you never hear about them. And I don't see Christians being persecuted in that many places. Historically, most persecution has been done by Christians, against other religions, such as jews, muslims, various lesser-known systems of spirituality and superstition, etc.

I direct your attention to the book Jesus Freaks by dc talk, its all about Christians being persecueted. Also go this website persecution.com

As soon as christians decide to start listening to their own bible, I'd love to help them out. It seems most of them don't even read the 10 commandments, or they feel the commandments are open to a very loose interpretation when someone else has something they want.

Lumping christians together as a group is counterintuitive because most of them, like most people, are useless and not worth helping. I do have a great deal of respect, however, for the few christians who try hard to follow their beliefs. For now though i'm not letting anyone I know go near a priest.

TAJ

You kinda of lumping all believers in Christ into one group, i am sure there are Christians out there that dont touch their bible at all, as for my self and the majority of my Christians friends, we read our bibles everyday

Ah, persecution.com - a site that calls muslims "infidels." Nothing about UN resolutions though....

Looks like it's a case of the kettle calling the pot black to me.

I think there is a reverse corrilation between a persons cranial capacity and how fundamental or fanatical their religious beliefs are. This thread and others like it seem to support my theory.