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are politicians evil?

The Crazy Karate Guy
02-05-2004, 04:54
well guys what do you think? all of them? some of them? just the successful ones? try not to draw on mods w/ flaming, I dont like mods...they make me feel uneasy...its, the smell...
02-05-2004, 04:57
The only ones that are evil are the ones that do evil things.
Eridanus
02-05-2004, 04:57
Only the ones I don't agree with (the conservative ones)
The Crazy Karate Guy
02-05-2004, 04:58
well why are THEY evil?
Galliam
02-05-2004, 05:01
All of em are evil Bush, Kerry all of em! VOTE Trevor for president cause He is the only person who isn't evil. He's a ninja, he'll get things done!
The Crazy Karate Guy
02-05-2004, 05:04
All of em are evil Bush, Kerry all of em! VOTE Trevor for president cause He is the only person who isn't evil. He's a ninja, he'll get things done!

O_O I'm a ninja too!!! what a small world... Kerry is more evil IMO
The Eyesores
02-05-2004, 05:05
All of em are evil Bush, Kerry all of em! VOTE Trevor for president cause He is the only person who isn't evil. He's a ninja, he'll get things done!

ninjas are so last tuesday. pirates are my bag.
Free Soviets
02-05-2004, 05:08
they are slightly more evil than your average person. but mostly the problem is that they are in a position to get away with it.
Greedy Pig
02-05-2004, 05:20
Their not evil. Corrupt, maybe. But its all part and parcels of politics.

They'll smile and say their your friend in front of you, and if you don't kow tow to them, they'll stab you in the back!
Deeloleo
02-05-2004, 05:28
Politicians evil? I don't know. Spineless, certainly. Dishonest, no doubt about it. Corrupt, sure. Self-serving, of course.

Well yea, they're evil.
Incertonia
02-05-2004, 05:32
I tend to auomatically distrust anyone who wants to be in charge of something involving large sums of money, so I tend to keep all politicians at arms length. But there are gradations of politician, some of whom I depsise more than others. Worst of all are the ones who, whether from conviction or cynicism (doesn't matter which to me) invoke religious belief and custom to set one part of a population against a minority. I've got no use for that kind of scum--wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
Eridanus
02-05-2004, 05:36
well why are THEY evil?

Because they're penny pinching pricks (AKA PPP's)
CanuckHeaven
02-05-2004, 05:37
I tend to auomatically distrust anyone who wants to be in charge of something involving large sums of money, so I tend to keep all politicians at arms length. But there are gradations of politician, some of whom I depsise more than others. Worst of all are the ones who, whether from conviction or cynicism (doesn't matter which to me) invoke religious belief and custom to set one part of a population against a minority. I've got no use for that kind of scum--wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
I guess you can't get any lower than that huh??? :shock:
Temme
03-05-2004, 04:10
I don't think they're "evil" (as in psychotic-dictator take-over-world-evil). I think that a lot of them rely on smearing and mud-slinging rather than actual platforms, though.

There are some exceptions. These are Canadian ones (I'm from Canada, land of corrupt politicians :lol: )

Larry Spencer--he's my MP, I appreciate his stand against gay marriage.
Sheila Copps--stood up for democracy and what she knew was right, even though it cost her the nomination.
Jack Layton--of the 3 main parties, he's the only leader with an actual platform.

Why is it that people aren't voting for these people who are honest and intelligent?

In Canada, there is one party (the Liberals, actually centrist, the leader is a former shipping tycoon) who have been in power since 1993. Scandal after scandal has rocked the party and government. They're guessing an election will be soon, and the Liberals are most likely going to win, while Jack Layton's party (see above) will get third. Is something wrong with this picture??
Letila
03-05-2004, 04:29
Yes. They are pure evil.

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03-05-2004, 04:30
Politicians are no more evil than any other leech on society. At best they are a necessary irritant.

Jim
THE LOST PLANET
03-05-2004, 04:34
Politicians are in positions of power, and like they say, power corrupts. Couple that with the fact that most politicians basically have to make a deal with the devil to get elected in the first place and yes, you can say politicians can be labeled as evil in general.
Mentholyptus
03-05-2004, 04:49
Of course they're evil! In our (our being America's) political system, you need to be a corrupt, backstabbing, greedy bastard to run successfully. It sucks. Even the third party guys, who claim to be different than the rest of the system, are evil little people (especially Nader. Greedy punk, will risk Bush getting re-elected just for his 15 minutes of notoriety).

When all the politicians are evil, the only thing you can really do is vote for the least evil guy (i.e. John Kerry), and slowly try to reform the system. So sad.
Soviet Democracy
03-05-2004, 04:50
Define evil.
Demonic Furbies
03-05-2004, 04:54
i wouldnt say evil. more like stupid.
Piscea
03-05-2004, 04:58
All of em are evil Bush, Kerry all of em! VOTE Trevor for president cause He is the only person who isn't evil. He's a ninja, he'll get things done!

Not to sound cliche'... but

There are bad apples in every barrell.

Unfortunatley... the people who are decent politicians and have no agendas... are for personal freedoms (as opposed to taking them away)... financially conservative yet socially liberal...

are not willing to run for president
Our Earth
03-05-2004, 04:59
I want to cry.
Piscea
03-05-2004, 05:07
Politicians are in positions of power, and like they say, power corrupts. Couple that with the fact that most politicians basically have to make a deal with the devil to get elected in the first place and yes, you can say politicians can be labeled as evil in general.

I have to agree with this. Power.. as well as money (ie: look at corporate america) corrupts.

That is why I feel...

No politician should be able to serve more than two terms.

Also.. I feel that no EVP of ANY publicly traded company should have a salary. They should be paid based upon whether or not the company meets their goals for a particular quarter. For instance.. lets say.. ABC Company hires a new CEO.. he would get a certain amount for a sign on bonus.... but then after that... let say that the Board of Directors for said company states that they companies goals Q1 are increase of revenues by 8%, and earnings by 7%, etc.. if the company reaches this goal.. the EVP's will be paid a certain dollar amount.. this is more or less a bonus/commission type system. If they only meet a certain percentage of the goal.. then they would only be compensated for as well as the company performs.
Demonic Furbies
03-05-2004, 05:09
I want to cry.

why's that?
Our Earth
03-05-2004, 05:26
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.
Beefeater
03-05-2004, 05:28
Politicians evil? I don't know. Spineless, certainly. Dishonest, no doubt about it. Corrupt, sure. Self-serving, of course.

Well yea, they're evil.

most definatly(sp?)
Soviet Democracy
03-05-2004, 05:40
I might as well throw my two cents in.

Do I believe politicians are evil? Of course not! The political game is nothing but that, a game! You do what you must to survive! If you are not "evil" (as I assume you guys call it) you will not win. You have to do what will get you the best chance at winning the next election. No matter who you are (liberal or conservative), that is how it works. They go back to their basic human instincts and become cut-throat and only strive to get ahead. Yes, there are honest politicians. But generally, they are not re-elected. So are the politicians evil, or are the people who elect them just plain stupid? I say the second one is true.

One last thing, I can guarentee you that if any of you guys who say politicians are so "evil" got elected, you would do the same exact thing. You have to play the game to survive. Change the system or deal with it.
Demonic Furbies
03-05-2004, 05:52
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.

as a whole, or like indeviduals?
Our Earth
03-05-2004, 05:53
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.

as a whole, or like indeviduals?

The average person is stupid, and specific individuals are stupid. Both make me want to cry.
Demonic Furbies
03-05-2004, 05:54
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.

as a whole, or like indeviduals?

The average person is stupid, and specific individuals are stupid. Both make me want to cry.

:( im sorry. does them being stupid make you want to cry or just the things they say out of that stupidity.
Our Earth
03-05-2004, 05:55
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.

as a whole, or like indeviduals?

The average person is stupid, and specific individuals are stupid. Both make me want to cry.

:( im sorry. does them being stupid make you want to cry or just the things they say out of that stupidity.

Hard to say specifically, it's just a general thing.
Demonic Furbies
03-05-2004, 06:04
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.

as a whole, or like indeviduals?

The average person is stupid, and specific individuals are stupid. Both make me want to cry.

:( im sorry. does them being stupid make you want to cry or just the things they say out of that stupidity.

Hard to say specifically, it's just a general thing.

fair enough.
APChem
03-05-2004, 06:14
I want to cry.

why's that?

People are stupid.

as a whole, or like indeviduals?

The average person is stupid, and specific individuals are stupid. Both make me want to cry.


This can actually be proven.
:arrow: Interesting to note:
The average person has an IQ of 100.
IQ scores are based on a normal distribution, usually with a standard deviation of 15.
So this means that 68% of the population should have IQs between 85 and 115.
It also means (and this is the scariest part) that 16% of the population has IQs of UNDER 85!!! :shock:
Scary thought...
APChem
03-05-2004, 06:15
I might as well throw my two cents in.

Do I believe politicians are evil? Of course not! The political game is nothing but that, a game! You do what you must to survive! If you are not "evil" (as I assume you guys call it) you will not win. You have to do what will get you the best chance at winning the next election. No matter who you are (liberal or conservative), that is how it works. They go back to their basic human instincts and become cut-throat and only strive to get ahead. Yes, there are honest politicians. But generally, they are not re-elected. So are the politicians evil, or are the people who elect them just plain stupid? I say the second one is true.

One last thing, I can guarentee you that if any of you guys who say politicians are so "evil" got elected, you would do the same exact thing. You have to play the game to survive. Change the system or deal with it.

I couldn't agree more. :)
Daistallia 2104
03-05-2004, 06:16
Depends on your definition of evil. If by evil you mean actively seeking to purposfully do harm to others, then no, 90% are not. But if you mean incompetent, petty, greedy, stupid, shortsighted, and ignorant, then yes, 90% are evil. But that definition would include 90% of all people.

In short, politicians are people. People may or may not be evil.
The Crazy Karate Guy
04-05-2004, 02:13
well...politicains are evil...so in that case most people must be in one way or another as well. overly greedy and selfish; trust me I work at a school and I see how they're raising their kids...
Free Soviets
04-05-2004, 03:12
The average person has an IQ of 100.
IQ scores are based on a normal distribution, usually with a standard deviation of 15.
So this means that 68% of the population should have IQs between 85 and 115.
It also means (and this is the scariest part) that 16% of the population has IQs of UNDER 85!!! :shock:
Scary thought...

it would be worse if iq tests measured a real thing other than ability to do iq tests (and to some extent cultural and socio-economic background).
Daistallia 2104
04-05-2004, 03:58
This can actually be proven.
:arrow: Interesting to note:
The average person has an IQ of 100.
IQ scores are based on a normal distribution, usually with a standard deviation of 15.
So this means that 68% of the population should have IQs between 85 and 115.
It also means (and this is the scariest part) that 16% of the population has IQs of UNDER 85!!! :shock:
Scary thought...

:roll:
68% are in the average range! OMG!
The is only shocking I see is that you seem to think average=stupid.