NationStates Jolt Archive


US out of Dublin!

Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 17:07
The news as it happens:

http://www.indymedia.ie/index.php

Dublin is not safe for our American cousins, it appears

"This Public Announcement is being issued to alert U.S. citizens to the potential for large-scale anti-globalization protests in highly-visited sections of Dublin from April 30 through May 3, 2004, in connection with the European Union enlargement “Days of Welcome,” sponsored by the EU Irish Presidency. This Public Announcement expires on May 14, 2004."

http://travel.state.gov/ireland_announce.html
Petsburg
01-05-2004, 17:10
i doubt there would be poblems for the americans in dublin, but northern ireland is another matter......
Superpower07
01-05-2004, 17:11
I dont get it. I always thought that Ireland is quite pro-American. Why would there be trouble for us here?
Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 17:12
i doubt there would be poblems for the americans in dublin, but northern ireland is another matter......

Well, actually we just had 6,000 people marching peacefully here (in Northern Ireland) against a rise in racist attacks over the last year.
Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 17:13
I dont get it. I always thought that Ireland is quite pro-American. Why would there be trouble for us here?

Flying guns and troops through Shannon airport and thus embroiling the neutral country of Ireland in the whole Gulf War II malarky?
Petsburg
01-05-2004, 17:14
i doubt there would be poblems for the americans in dublin, but northern ireland is another matter......

Well, actually we just had 6,000 people marching peacefully here (in Northern Ireland) against a rise in racist attacks over the last year.

good point. it has been realativly peaceful in northern ireland recently
Sdaeriji
01-05-2004, 17:15
I dont get it. I always thought that Ireland is quite pro-American. Why would there be trouble for us here?

Flying guns and troops through Shannon airport and thus embroiling the neutral country of Ireland in the whole Gulf War II malarky?

It never ceases to amaze me what my country will do.
Kwangistar
01-05-2004, 18:27
http://www.languish.org/forums/html/emoticons/lmfao.gif
Isn't it funny how people decry Fox News en masse every time its posted on this board, and Indymedia is accepted as a good source.
Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 19:38
Isn't it funny how people decry Fox News en masse every time its posted on this board, and Indymedia is accepted as a good source.

Are you claiming that there is, in fact, no protest occuring in Dublin?

Or maybe you are suggesting that we should apply our own critical facilities whenever we read any news source?

(The first is ludicrous, the second is obvious...)
Kwangistar
01-05-2004, 20:01
There very may well be protests in Ireland - in fact, there's probably protests in every country in the world without Saddam-like dictators.

However, people jump on anyone who posts Fox News and write essays about Fox News, yet IndyMedia is somehow different. Of course, you posted the governments warning itself, or the link to it, which changes the equation. This isn't the first time I've seen links to indymedia though.
Collaboration
01-05-2004, 20:30
It must be dangerous for Americans! There is no Free-Speech-Exclusion zone!
Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 20:37
It must be dangerous for Americans! There is no Free-Speech-Exclusion zone!

Well: the last serious breach of order at one of these protests in Dublin was started by the police, who began batoning people indiscriminately - without first asking their nationality...

EDIT: 80:40 BST

"Water Cannons Deployed and In Use: Crowd Retreat: Baton Charge Coming Now"



8.45 Crowd are standing Ground Booing Watercannon and Gardai : Batons Drawn : 'Water Water Everywhere and not a Drop to Drink' ;-)

8.45 2nd Cannon Being Deployed: Baton Charge Took Place: One Bloody Head Injury Reported so Far

8.45 'RUC OUT OUT OUT' being chanted: This is a reference to provenance of the Gardai's New Toys

(How long before the S-S-RUC chant begins?)
Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 20:57
An alternate report from RTE (the state media):

http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0501/eu1.html

"Gardaí in riot gear have joined the line and water cannon have been deployed. One Garda has been reported injured."
Free Soviets
01-05-2004, 21:07
Isn't it funny how people decry Fox News en masse every time its posted on this board, and Indymedia is accepted as a good source.

there is no better source for coverage of any left-leaning protest event than the local indymedia. open publishing means that some of the stories suck, but indymedia serves all of your protest porn needs. it simply has the best photographic coverage you could ask for.
Bodies Without Organs
01-05-2004, 21:14
indymedia serves all of your protest porn needs. it simply has the best photographic coverage you could ask for.

Where else can one find pictures of anarcho-cheerleaders in action?
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/may2004/dscn0043mayday.jpg

Or cops guarding a sex shop?
http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/may2004/gpo5.jpg

On a more serious note:

8.55 Last Warning Given: 2nd Cannon Now Deployed: Protesters sitting on Ground Taking Force of Cannons: 'Spokespeople from DGN and AEIP Pleading with Protesters to Leave. Not Working for Now

9.04 Crowd Moving Back 20m or so:' Brave' People throwing stuff over heads of the frontline protesters: Report from Medic of two bad headwounds from Baton Charge: Cannon trying to walk Crowd Backwards: Snatch Squads Appearing From Sideroads according to a Medic: 'You Must Leave This Area Immediately: Crowd not Retreating: Police trying to force People down Side Roads