NationStates Jolt Archive

Folks, you just can't make this stuff up, and make it this good. The S.S. Kerry continues to take on water.

- John Whitesides reports (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040429/pl_nm/campaign_message_dc_2), the Democrats are looking desperately for anything resembling a message from the Kerry campaign. The situation is best summarized by:
"I have no idea what the Kerry message is. He has no positive message at this point," said Democratic consultant Doug Schoen, a former pollster for President Bill Clinton.
- Jean Francois Kerry has claimed to represent the common man in his campaign. As Tom Purcell reports (http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/p/purcell/2004/purcell043004.htm), it isn't quite working. Something about actions matching words.

- So Kerry claims in an MTV interview to be "fascinated" by rap and hip-hop. Larry Elder (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/le20040429.shtml) examines "Jiggy Fly" Kerry's claims.

- Phillip Lawler (http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110005022), editor of the monthly magazine Catholic World Report and of the Web site Catholic World News, weighs in on the controversy surrounding Kerry (and other Democrat leaders') insistence on supporting abortion and the Catholic Church's dictum that politicians that do not follow church teachings must be denied Holy Communion. In a related development, the Governor of the state of New Jersey (a pro-abortion Democrat,) has been denied communion by the new Bishop of the Diocese of Camden, reports NewsMax.com (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/30/225704.shtml).

- Jack Wheeler (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/4/30/170640.shtml) reports on the New York Times' latest attempt to rescue the sinking S.S. Kerry. And of course, the theme of Democrat buyer's remorse is mentioned in this article (nice way to tie it in!)

But not everything tonight is about Jean Francois Kerry (http://www.mercuryradioarts.com/site/product?pid=10034)...Err America is taking some heat too, and it isn't just from the Right!

- First from the Left. Dylan Tanner (http://www.dailyvanguard.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/04/13/407b79cfd3531), writing in the online edition of the Portland State University newspaper, The Daily Vanguard, gives a Leftist review of Err America. The "money shot" of the article is the following:The need for an entertaining leftist voice among the traditional AM pundits has been long discussed and with the launch of Air America, finally realized. Its Web site brags, "We are a new voice in talk radio; a smart voice with a sense of humor." And with hosts like Garofalo, Chuck D and Al Franken, Air America seems like a brilliant idea. Why then, does it suck so badly?
- Now from the Right (equal opportunity in action here.) Craige McMillan (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38263), writing on WorldNetDaily, reviews the progress of Err America, at the end of its first month in operation.

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It doesn't do much good to bash kerry around here. Most people don't necessarily like Kerry, they just don't like Bush, so they'll vote for Kerry.

Even if you could prove that Kerry was spotted frolicking naked on the White House lawn with Satan himself, people would still refuse to except that he may not be the right person to lead the country right now.

It doesn't do much good to bash kerry around here. Most people don't necessarily like Kerry, they just don't like Bush, so they'll vote for Kerry.

Even if you could prove that Kerry was spotted frolicking naked on the White House lawn with Satan himself, people would still refuse to except that he may not be the right person to lead the country right now.

If Kerry managed to frolick naked on the White House lawn with Satan, I'd be afraid of not voting for him. Because face it, if you can frolick naked with Satan, you're pretty good buds, to say the least. And I'd prefer not to cross someone who's good friends with Satan, you know what I mean?

If Kerry managed to frolick naked on the White House lawn with Satan, I'd be afraid of not voting for him. Because face it, if you can frolick naked with Satan, you're pretty good buds, to say the least. And I'd prefer not to cross someone who's good friends with Satan, you know what I mean?

"Now, I'm not sayin anything, but if you don't vote for Kerry, accidents happen, yaknow? Accidents like having both yer knees busted by a baseball bat. And nobody wants that, yaknow?" :lol:

Even if you could prove that Kerry was spotted frolicking naked on the White House lawn with Satan himself, people would still refuse to except that he may not be the right person to lead the country right now.

I can assure you that those photos are not going to be seen by anyone

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

Welcome to John Kerry's Waffle House! :lol:

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

Welcome to John Kerry's Waffle House! :lol:
Serving Waffles since 1984!

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

It doesn't do much good to bash kerry around here. Most people don't necessarily like Kerry, they just don't like Bush, so they'll vote for Kerry.

Even if you could prove that Kerry was spotted frolicking naked on the White House lawn with Satan himself, people would still refuse to except that he may not be the right person to lead the country right now.

If Kerry managed to frolick naked on the White House lawn with Satan, I'd be afraid of not voting for him. Because face it, if you can frolick naked with Satan, you're pretty good buds, to say the least. And I'd prefer not to cross someone who's good friends with Satan, you know what I mean?

That couldn't be true, why would Kerry be at the Whitehouse?

It doesn't do much good to bash kerry around here. Most people don't necessarily like Kerry, they just don't like Bush, so they'll vote for Kerry.

Even if you could prove that Kerry was spotted frolicking naked on the White House lawn with Satan himself, people would still refuse to except that he may not be the right person to lead the country right now.

If Kerry managed to frolick naked on the White House lawn with Satan, I'd be afraid of not voting for him. Because face it, if you can frolick naked with Satan, you're pretty good buds, to say the least. And I'd prefer not to cross someone who's good friends with Satan, you know what I mean?

That couldn't be true, why would Kerry be at the Whitehouse?

Satan threw him over the fence!

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

Wrong as always, young lady...please try again. I don't spend time watching tv...too busy otherwise. But, at least I get results around here...namely, making you libs hot around the collar. Now there is something worth my very small efforts. I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

Wrong as always, young lady...please try again. I don't spend time watching tv...too busy otherwise. But, at least I get results around here...namely, making you libs hot around the collar. Now there is something worth my very small efforts. I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

I need a hobby.

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

Wrong as always, young lady...please try again. I don't spend time watching tv...too busy otherwise. But, at least I get results around here...namely, making you libs hot around the collar. Now there is something worth my very small efforts. I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

I need a hobby. You, me, and a lot of people do. If we hadn't gotten 3 inches of rain yesterday, I would have been playing golf today, instead of being here.

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

Wrong as always, young lady...please try again. I don't spend time watching tv...too busy otherwise. But, at least I get results around here...namely, making you libs hot around the collar. Now there is something worth my very small efforts. I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

I need a hobby. You, me, and a lot of people do. If we hadn't gotten 3 inches of rain yesterday, I would have been playing golf today, instead of being here.

OK. Try to keep the chatter down, the Hockey game is on! Go Wings!

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

Wrong as always, young lady...please try again. I don't spend time watching tv...too busy otherwise. But, at least I get results around here...namely, making you libs hot around the collar. Now there is something worth my very small efforts. I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

Ah, I maybe a liberal Pan, but I'm not an American liberal, there is quite a difference. I'm not sure why many (not all) Americans do that to people outside of their own country. Your political labels don't apply to the rest of us who are not Americans. An American conservative or liberal is not the same standard around the world. Yet, I suppose it's just a sticking point for me.

I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

I don't know, speaking out against injustice and political corruption wherever you can doesn't seem like such a bad way to live one's life, instead of always pursuing the Almighty Dollar. That's why I'm a peace activist and work in non-profit. Of course, perhaps it's just because I believe that ideals are useless unless you actually try to do something postive in your life with them whereas you apparently enjoy just trying to piss people off. Takes all kinds.

I don't know, speaking out against injustice and political corruption wherever you can doesn't seem like such a bad way to live one's life, instead of always pursuing the Almighty Dollar. That's why I'm a peace activist and work in non-profit. Of course, perhaps it's just because I believe that ideals are useless unless you actually try to do something postive in your life with them whereas you apparently enjoy just trying to piss people off. Takes all kinds.

I feel making lots of money, and therefore a better life for my family,
is my point in life. Seems positive enough for me. If someone gets pissed off because I work hard and make lots of money, that's not my fault. It wouldn't be worthwhile to do it just to spite the poor!

Yeh we know the common dumbass identifies with can't-say-the-right-word Shrub.
So what would we call those who identify themselves with "never-found-a-point-of-view-he-didn't-agree-with" Kerry? Oh, I know...the common waffle!

You watch far too much TV, listen to way to many catch phrases and use them far too much. I haven't heard any really new material come out of you for some time.. you're slacking Panhandlia LOL. :lol:

Wrong as always, young lady...please try again. I don't spend time watching tv...too busy otherwise. But, at least I get results around here...namely, making you libs hot around the collar. Now there is something worth my very small efforts. I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

Ah, I maybe a liberal Pan, but I'm not an American liberal, there is quite a difference. I'm not sure why many (not all) Americans do that to people outside of their own country. Your political labels don't apply to the rest of us who are not Americans. An American conservative or liberal is not the same standard around the world. Yet, I suppose it's just a sticking point for me.I guess the question then would become "why should us in the US of A care about a (Canadian, right?)'s opinion about OUR political processes?" Sorry, you walked right into that one.

Fact: most of us in the US of A don't really care enough about the political processes in other countries (not even the ones that border us.) We, in general (unless you're Jean Francois Kerry,) actually appreciate it when those from other countries take the same attitude.

I keep telling you, I am not even trying hard here...this is a pastime for me, as opposed to the way of life it seems to be for some of you on the left. :wink:

I don't know, speaking out against injustice and political corruption wherever you can doesn't seem like such a bad way to live one's life, instead of always pursuing the Almighty Dollar.You see, that's where you make a mistake, involuntary, but a mistake nonetheless. This whole forum thing is a pastime for me. For some of you it seems to be a way of life. You want to speak out against injustice and political corruption? Fine, get off that chair and go out and do it. You are convincing no one while you're here, and you're doing nothing to change the world. Having said that,

That's why I'm a peace activist and work in non-profit. Of course, perhaps it's just because I believe that ideals are useless unless you actually try to do something postive in your life with them whereas you apparently enjoy just trying to piss people off. Takes all kinds.Trust me, I have as much interest in peace as you do. I no sooner want to see young men and women be sent to die. But unlike you, I believe there are things in life that are worth fighting for. Terror is one of those things. It just so happens, my line of work is closely related to the fight on international terror (you're welcome.) The only real difference between you and I is, I don't have a problem with making some money while I support the war on terror.

And yes, I do enjoy ticking liberals off...it shows their true nature (as opposed to the fake "can't we all just get along" face they put on.)

[quote=Panhandlia]You see, that's where you make a mistake, involuntary, but a mistake nonetheless. This whole forum thing is a pastime for me. For some of you it seems to be a way of life. You want to speak out against injustice and political corruption? Fine, get off that chair and go out and do it. You are convincing no one while you're here, and you're doing nothing to change the world. Having said that,

That's why I'm a peace activist and work in non-profit. Of course, perhaps it's just because I believe that ideals are useless unless you actually try to do something postive in your life with them whereas you apparently enjoy just trying to piss people off. Takes all kinds.Trust me, I have as much interest in peace as you do. I no sooner want to see young men and women be sent to die. But unlike you, I believe there are things in life that are worth fighting for. Terror is one of those things. It just so happens, my line of work is closely related to the fight on international terror (you're welcome.) The only real difference between you and I is, I don't have a problem with making some money while I support the war on terror.

And yes, I do enjoy ticking liberals off...it shows their true nature (as opposed to the fake "can't we all just get along" face they put on.)


We also give up a lot of civil liberties with the war on terror, like wearing turbans in an airport or outside a police station.

You see, that's where you make a mistake, involuntary, but a mistake nonetheless. This whole forum thing is a pastime for me. For some of you it seems to be a way of life. You want to speak out against injustice and political corruption? Fine, get off that chair and go out and do it. You are convincing no one while you're here, and you're doing nothing to change the world.

You also make a mistake. Today I'm on deadline to have an article ready by tomorrow. While writing, I also enjoy posting on these forums. I do get out of my chair and work both at a local and a national level to bring about the changes I would like to see. But hey, whatever.


Trust me, I have as much interest in peace as you do. I no sooner want to see young men and women be sent to die. But unlike you, I believe there are things in life that are worth fighting for.

I also believe there are things in life worth fighting for. Additionally, I think there are other ways of 'fighting' than just having a bigger gun or more warm bodies to throw at the other guy.


Terror is one of those things. It just so happens, my line of work is closely related to the fight on international terror (you're welcome.)

You're thanked.


The only real difference between you and I is, I don't have a problem with making some money while I support the war on terror.

Yes, you're right, that is a difference between us. I do have a problem with profiting from human suffering.


And yes, I do enjoy ticking liberals off...it shows their true nature (as opposed to the fake "can't we all just get along" face they put on.)

Fine, fine, just remember the mirror reflects both ways.

Actually, a mirror only reflects one way. It reflects anything that crosses a 180-degree hemisphere in front of it, but not the full 360 degrees.

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Actually, a mirror only reflects one way. It reflects anything that crosses a 180-degree hemisphere in front of it, but not the full 360 degrees.

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Unchain my metaphor!

[quote=Panhandlia]You see, that's where you make a mistake, involuntary, but a mistake nonetheless. This whole forum thing is a pastime for me. For some of you it seems to be a way of life. You want to speak out against injustice and political corruption? Fine, get off that chair and go out and do it. You are convincing no one while you're here, and you're doing nothing to change the world. Having said that,

That's why I'm a peace activist and work in non-profit. Of course, perhaps it's just because I believe that ideals are useless unless you actually try to do something postive in your life with them whereas you apparently enjoy just trying to piss people off. Takes all kinds.Trust me, I have as much interest in peace as you do. I no sooner want to see young men and women be sent to die. But unlike you, I believe there are things in life that are worth fighting for. Terror is one of those things. It just so happens, my line of work is closely related to the fight on international terror (you're welcome.) The only real difference between you and I is, I don't have a problem with making some money while I support the war on terror.

And yes, I do enjoy ticking liberals off...it shows their true nature (as opposed to the fake "can't we all just get along" face they put on.)


We also give up a lot of civil liberties with the war on terror, like wearing turbans in an airport or outside a police station.Not sure I can follow your "logic", but let me try. Let's see, who kidnapped 4 aircraft, smashed 2 of them into the World Trade Center, 1 more into the Pentagon, and were trying to smash the fourth one into either the US Capitol or the White House when they crashed into a pasture in Pennsylvania? That's right, 19 Arabs. Now, in some Arab countries, the men wear turbans, but that part about turbans is mostly irrelevant, since Sikhs wear turbans too. Let's go a little further though...the vast majority of Arabs belong to one of the 3 major religions on Earth...it's called Islam, which happens to be the religion of some 120 now-dead teen hoodlums in Thailand. What did those hoodlums do, that got them killed? That's right, they attacked police stations, trying to get weapons.

And you wonder why Arabs should get further screening at the airport, or when they're loitering around police stations and other infrastructure? No, I am not suggesting we do to all Arabs in the US what was done to Japanese descendants during WWII. But they certainly warrant a little closer look whenever they're acting suspiciously.

Actually, a mirror only reflects one way. It reflects anything that crosses a 180-degree hemisphere in front of it, but not the full 360 degrees.

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Unchain my metaphor!Whoa...getting heavy there, dudes. :lol:

Actually, a mirror only reflects one way. It reflects anything that crosses a 180-degree hemisphere in front of it, but not the full 360 degrees.

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Unchain my metaphor!Whoa...getting heavy there, dudes. :lol:

My metaphors require freedom. :lol:

Not sure I can follow your "logic", but let me try. Let's see, who kidnapped 4 aircraft, smashed 2 of them into the World Trade Center, 1 more into the Pentagon, and were trying to smash the fourth one into either the US Capitol or the White House when they crashed into a pasture in Pennsylvania? That's right, 19 Arabs. Now, in some Arab countries, the men wear turbans, but that part about turbans is mostly irrelevant, since Sikhs wear turbans too. Let's go a little further though...the vast majority of Arabs belong to one of the 3 major religions on Earth...it's called Islam, which happens to be the religion of some 120 now-dead teen hoodlums in Thailand. What did those hoodlums do, that got them killed? That's right, they attacked police stations, trying to get weapons.

And you wonder why Arabs should get further screening at the airport, or when they're loitering around police stations and other infrastructure? No, I am not suggesting we do to all Arabs in the US what was done to Japanese descendants during WWII. But they certainly warrant a little closer look whenever they're acting suspiciously.Let's go back a little farther in US history, though and look at acts of terrorism inside the US, because the 9-11 attacks weren't the first. Should the example of McVeigh and the other recent arrests (that have gotten a shamefully small amount of reporting) of US citizens who were talking about killing liberals or other members of the government cause us to start screening anyone who belongs to a militia? How about just any redneck who owns both a shotgun and a rifle? Should they all be automatically investigated because they fit a very general profile thathappens to describe a particular form of nutjob?

Of course not, and anyone who suggested that tat sort of profiling should take place would be roundly shouted down and with good reason. Why? Because profiling casts too wide a net to ever be efficient when it comes to crime prevention. Plain and simple--it doesn't work. It never has and there's no reason to think that it will somehow magically start now.