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Christians, Jesus will save save you, but perhaps not the way you think... and hey, there's war between muslims and Christians here as well. About invading Syria and other interesting stuff, leading to the worlds destruction. Enjoy the tale!

Over the last few days, we've had earthquakes, and wars, and many freakish natural phenomena. But that's nothing, really. When you hear a trumpet sound, better say goodbye. Allah is about to wrap up the Universe he created.

Oh, that good old Koran story about the end of days! The end of times as outlined in Muslim writings is one of the very finest religious apocalyptic scenario's around: rich in detail, vivid, and far reaching in religious implications. No wonder so many Muslims are deeply convinced judgment day (`Qiyamah', in Koran terminology) will come about one day.

So here's what will happen. The Koran discernes `minor' and `major' omens predicting the end of days. Many of the `minor' omens (there are 72 signs in total) are already here for everybody to be seen. Men will behave more like women and women will imitate men. Men will dress in silk. Children will be disobeyant, and youngsters will be role-models. People who used to be shepherds will build tall buildings.

And there's more. Many will engage in dangerous sports, divorces will be a daily occurrence and people will favour their friends over their families. Liquor will be consumed in the streets, and dancing and wild music will be everywhere. Religious leaders will make worldly profits, while intellectuals rather engage in science than in the study of religion. Also, there will be the usual apocalyptic rumble-a-bumble: earthquakes, devastating wars, storms and floods. If you add things up, it looks like the end of days is quite near, don't you think?

Well, don't worry -- yet. When time's up, you can't miss it. For the signs will become more and more grotesque. One after another, they roll in like `a string of beads falling one after the other', as the prophet Muhammad put it.

As a first sign the countdown to doomsday is ending, nature displays some very odd phenomena. You'll notice red winds sweeping across the country. Some people find their face gets malformed -- hey, isn't that a pig's face? Others are even less fortunate: everywhere, people are suddenly swallowed into the ground.

Then a cataclysmic religious war breaks out. It's Muslims versus Christians, and soon after the outbreak of war, half of the Christian armies sign a peace treaty with the Muslims. The Muslim-Christian coalition conquers Istanbul, while the `bad' Christians conquer Syria. But that all changes when the Christian army starts heading for Mecca. Suddenly, the ground cracks open and gone are the Christians.

Well, that doesn't mean war is over. The Muslims raid the Middle East, lose two thirds of their army but in the end win back Syria and Palestine. Immediately, they declare Holy War (Jihad) on India -- and win.

You find all this warfare a bit boring? Just wait, more miraculous things are about to happen. As peace settles down in the Muslim empire (that by now stretches from the Middle East deeply into Asia), the world is plagued by a severe drought that lasts three years.

After that, suddenly a very creepy character shows up. Al-Dajjal is his name. And he actually is the Muslim anti-Christ. Well-educated Muslims will instantly recognise the guy: he is short, red-faced, has hair that sticks up and is blind at the right eye. The false prophet inspires vast amounts of followers anyhow: 70,000 heavily armed believers join the bad guy.

Gladly, in the meantime another chap comes to power: Al-Mahdi. Now Al-Mahdi is there to keep the balance between good and bad. He is a military leader, is named after the prophet and of course calls everyone to the true Islam as often as he can.

It takes a third miracle man to break down the stalemate between Al-Dajjal and Al-Mahdi: Jesus. Yes, you read that right: when the world is about to end, Muslims too expect Jesus -- `Isa' in the Koran -- to return from heaven. It is a miraculous thing to see, since Isa returns with much dramatic display: he descends from the sky in Damascus while a mass prayer is going on. If you're a Christian, you're in for a big surprise: without an eye's blink, Jesus denounces Christianity and calls upon everybody to convert to Islam.

And Jesus is in a fighting mood. He turns out an excellent military leader, as he goes out to pick a fight with Al-Dajjal. While more and more people convert to Islam, Isa defeats the false prophet. Jesus kills Al-Dajjal himself. It happens in the valley of `Ifiq', near an Israeli airport.

After that, a brief period of peace sets in. Jihad stops, Islam rules, there's peace and prosperity everywhere and Isa himself retires, marries, has many children, dies after nineteen years and is buried next to Muhammad.

But wait, it was still merely the beginning, a kind of warming-up for Allah. For the next moment, the real stuff begins. Prepare for the end of days!

In four countries, the ground suddenly caves in, leaving four enormous, gaping pits in the Earth's crust. Next, there's fog. For forty days, thick layers of smoke blanket the sky. If you were still a non-Muslim, you pass out. Muslims develop terrible colds.

Finally, the fog lifts up. You might expect to finally see the sun again. But to your amazement, it is completely dark. For three days and three nights, the Sun simply is not there. No wonder people all over the world start feeling a bit `restless' by now, as the Koran puts it.

Then, the Sun finally rises again. But wait, what's that? The Sun rises in the West, crossing the sky the wrong way around. By now, if you are still a non-believer, you might want to convert to Islam. But isn't that a pity: after the Sun-rising-in-the-West-incident, Allah won't listen to any more repentence.

It's one day later, and here comes the next miracle already. Near Mecca, the ground starts to rumble, and the next moment, a giant beast lifts itself up out of the ground. Astonishingly, the beast can talk. It raises its claws, and look: the faces of the faithful begin to glitter, while the faces of the non-believers darken.

Not that a glowing face really helps you that much. The next moment, a breeze from the south comes in. It causes sores in the armpits of all Muslims. They suffer terribly and die. Only the non-believers remain. If you're one of them, you'll probably feel a bit nervous. It is perfectly clear that you have to witness the end of the world.

Allah indeed seems to have abandoned the world. Back in Mecca, the Kashba is destroyed by a troop of African invaders. The Koran is suddenly completely forgotten. In Yemen, a huge fire breaks out. If you are by chance a Yemenite and still surviving, you run for your life. But the fire follows you, all way to Syria. There the fire suddenly stops.

You wait for more to come. But nothing really happens. The silence lasts hours, then days, then months. Though you're bewildered and scared, you try to settle down, attempting to start a new life on your damned planet. You've had wars, monsters, fires and darkness, so how much worse can it really get?, you ask yourself retorically.

Well, it can. After several years of tranquility, a eery and ominous sound echoes over the world. Although there are no Muslims left, some people might recognize it for what it is: the sound of the angel Israfil, blowing the doomsday trumpet of Allah. It's the last thing you'll ever hear. For the next moment, the entire universe with everyone in it simply ceases to exist. Zzzip, gone.

Before you know what's happening, you find you're facing the big man himself. Allah is there, right in front of you. He is surrounded by angels and clouds.

Suddenly, you have a tremendous flashback on your life. You understand the consequences of everything you ever did. `Whoever has done an atom's weight of good will see it, and whoever has done an atom's weight of evil will also see it,' the Koran explains.

It's judgment time. If there's too many grains of evil, off you go to hell. Or was there more good in your life? Then lucky you, you get to spend the rest of all eternity in the heavens of Allah, where everything looks about the same as on Earth -- but much, much better.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~mke/exitmundi.htm

I read this last night, as well as just about the whole of the rest of the site.
Such readable literature, three thumbs up.

I read this last night, as well as just about the whole of the rest of the site.
Such readable literature, three thumbs up.

I haven't read everything yet, but so far I agree!

There's one called 'HUH?' I think, beautiful.

Just using: del c:\ would be such a simpler way of ending the world.

Who said I was going to save you all?

Look, as a Christian myself I understand that there are many perversions withing the various Christian denominated churches which run counter to the "Good News" of Jesus' ministry. But, let me get this straight, Jesus will supposedly return and then denounce the very sect of people who try and live life according to his teachings of nearly 2000 years ago?

Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?

Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?

Sage advice. :)

All apocalyptic religions -- Islam and Christianity being the main two -- always predict the End of the World, and it's always Just Around The Corner. The Signs and Portents industry has been with us for nearly 2000 years (more if you consider the various apocalyptic frenzies of Palestine around the time of the Roman invasions). If you read the Epistles of St Paul (especially 1 Thessalonians) you can find him writing to early Christians, telling them that the End of the World and the Second Coming will be any day now, just hang in there. Unless I've missed something, we're all still waiting.

The only real danger is if some religiously inclined world leader gets it into his head that he's been Chosen and decides to immanentize the eschaton by himself. Unfortunately none of us will be around to see the look on his face when he surveys the glowing rubble and says, "Wot? No Rapture?"

My friend, who is a devout christian, (I am going to convert to buddhism) thinks that the world will end in 2013. then jesus is going to come back and *Teleport* all the good people to heaven, while the rest of us burn in hell for seven years.

My rebuttle to this:Your Crazy! Besides, the Mayan calander says that the apocolypse is coming in 2019, and i trust the Mayans more then the Christians.

if anybody wants to laugh even harder at the End-Of-Days chumps, try this on for size: http://www.raptureready.com/

here's a little taste, from the reader mail section...

"Hi Todd, I had an idea last week filled with urgency to make small stickers (Avery Mail Labels) and stick them everywhere I could get them. When the rapture takes us up, those left behind will surely be going through the “stuff” we leave behind, especially our billfolds and homes. I took the liberty to refer everyone to your site. You might want to encourage others to do something similar. I have the stickers on my computer, in my wallet, in our truck, over my computer at work and anywhere else I can get away with sticking them. The stickers read: “If those around you suddenly vanish, go to www.raptureready.com on the internet. Look under "Left Behind" This will give you information as to what has happened and what you need to do next.” I hope this will help in some small way to get the word out. Thanks for an awesome website that gives me renewed hope each day!"

My friend, who is a devout christian, (I am going to convert to buddhism) thinks that the world will end in 2013. then Jesus is going to come back and *Teleport* all the good people to heaven, while the rest of us burn in hell for seven years.


:shock: The year ID cards are made universal in Britain.

Anyway, when comparing 7 years to eternity, it ain't all that bad.

Look, as a Christian myself...

Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?


Do you?

Look, as a Christian myself...

Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?


Do you?

Seeing that you're almost up to 7000 posts I don't count myself worthy to engage in debate with you. Please forgive me for adoping a position different from yours...I am truely not worthy to share the same thread with you...I will immediately change my ways and denounce my faith as some cooked up movement designed to brainwash the weak-minded.

Thank you for your intervention...I am now liberated!

Look, as a Christian myself...

Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?


Do you?

Seeing that you're almost up to 7000 posts I don't count myself worthy to engage in debate with you. Please forgive me for adoping a position different from yours...I am truely not worthy to share the same thread with you...I will immediately change my ways and denounce my faith as some cooked up movement designed to brainwash the weak-minded.

Thank you for your intervention...I am now liberated!

Excellent! I find you worthy! You are familiar with Islam btw?

Look at all the hate, ignorance, and small-mindedness just in these forums alone.
And these are mild compared to some.
Why should we deserve to go on indefinitely perpetuating ourselves?

I'm ready for the end, whatever force or deity pulls the plug, whether it means I'm annihilated, exalted or ignored.

Get it over with.

I believe you just have to live your life good. not accept religious dogmas. sorry but I don't believe what they say.

Just using: del c:\ would be such a simpler way of ending the world.

You mean `rm -rf /`. If the universe were powered by MICRO$~1, it wouldn't have lasted through "Let there be Light."

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

Think before I type? That would be a new one. I might even try it. How about this:

If you haven't realized it yet, not every single human being share your point of view when it comes to armageddon, sense of humor (or the lack of it), religion in general, political standpoint, pants, teachers, parents, girl- or boyfriends, secret wishes, etc. So, we have this thing we call a forum, where we can share our thoughts, learn something about others' point of view when it comes to armageddon etc., and even enjoy a laugh once in a while.

As it happens to be, Jesus is not only appreciated by Christians, but apparently also by the muslims although they recognize him in a different way than Christians do. Correct me if I'm wrong (and this goes for Stableness too or any other who whis to butt in) but don't think that it is fair to say that muslims believe in their armageddon just as much as you believe in yours?

I type whatever I want here as long as it is within the rules. You do the same. No one is forcing us to read eachothers posts, but the day I set up my own homepage I'll remeber to send you the link. Good luck on your armageddon btw. I'm fairly sure we won't run into eachother there.

Hey, BMV, you spelled something wrong in your thread title. It's 'Jeebus', not Jesus.

Hey, BMV, you spelled something wrong in your thread title. It's 'Jeebus', not Jesus.

Or even Isa. :wink:

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

That's bullshit. If you can't handle a little religious mockery, you should be the one to leave the forum, not the humor. The world isn't going to bend over backwards to not offend you. This forum is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas and beliefs, with (almost) no censorship. If you're offended by something someone has to say about your religion, you are more than welcome to leave. We shouldn't all have to watch our tongues just because something we might have to say might offend you. If we had to do that for all 100,000 people on this forum, no one would ever get to say anything.

Jesus has AzN Pryde.

No, Christians, Jesus will NOT save you. You are but mere humans, and humans are made up of nerve endings and cells and chemicals. Jesus was a rebel. We forget him and focus on the future. We must create armies to defend our countries - violence in the most severe way is the way forward... The Queen Lucretia of Vivica speaks. Listen carefully.

Look at all the hate, ignorance, and small-mindedness just in these forums alone.
And these are mild compared to some.
Why should we deserve to go on indefinitely perpetuating ourselves?

I'm ready for the end, whatever force or deity pulls the plug, whether it means I'm annihilated, exalted or ignored.

Get it over with.

*agrees*

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

Think before I type? That would be a new one. I might even try it. How about this:

If you haven't realized it yet, not every single human being share your point of view when it comes to armageddon, sense of humor (or the lack of it), religion in general, political standpoint, pants, teachers, parents, girl- or boyfriends, secret wishes, etc. So, we have this thing we call a forum, where we can share our thoughts, learn something about others' point of view when it comes to armageddon etc., and even enjoy a laugh once in a while.

As it happens to be, Jesus is not only appreciated by Christians, but apparently also by the muslims although they recognize him in a different way than Christians do. Correct me if I'm wrong (and this goes for Stableness too or any other who whis to butt in) but don't think that it is fair to say that muslims believe in their armageddon just as much as you believe in yours?

I type whatever I want here as long as it is within the rules. You do the same. No one is forcing us to read eachothers posts, but the day I set up my own homepage I'll remeber to send you the link. Good luck on your armageddon btw. I'm fairly sure we won't run into eachother there.

I'm much more inclined to respect an established player such as BMV rather than an 18 post n00b.

Good article by the way. Woo (also yay).

Thats interesting....


Something that often bothers me is, what if Jesus already has come back, but upon announcing himself, he was shut in an asylum :(

What if humans disintegrate the planet and everything on it before Jesus comes? Then will the story go the same way? Or would that day simply be the judgement day? hmmm....Hey I rhymed!

Something that often bothers me is, what if Jesus already has come back, but upon announcing himself, he was shut in an asylum :(

You don't think someone who could walk on water, heal the lame and blind, and [b]raise the dead[b] could actually be kept in a sanitarium, do you?

Something that often bothers me is, what if Jesus already has come back, but upon announcing himself, he was shut in an asylum :(

You don't think someone who could walk on water, heal the lame and blind, and [b]raise the dead[b] could actually be kept in a sanitarium, do you?

Something that often bothers me is, what if Jesus already has come back, but upon announcing himself, he was shut in an asylum :(

You don't think someone who could walk on water, heal the lame and blind, and [b]raise the dead[b] could actually be kept in a sanitarium, do you?

Personally I don't believe in any of these dommsday theories. IMO if the world isnt destroyed in a nuclear war it will be engulfed by the sun in about 5 billion years

Something that often bothers me is, what if Jesus already has come back, but upon announcing himself, he was shut in an asylum :(

You don't think someone who could walk on water, heal the lame and blind, and [b]raise the dead[b] could actually be kept in a sanitarium, do you?



Not that he couldn't break out. It's wether he would. He could have stopped himself being crucified. OF course it is a diffferent situation, and I don't think it will happen, it's just a thought

Think before I type? That would be a new one. I might even try it. How about this:

If you haven't realized it yet, not every single human being share your point of view when it comes to armageddon, sense of humor (or the lack of it), religion in general, political standpoint, pants, teachers, parents, girl- or boyfriends, secret wishes, etc. So, we have this thing we call a forum, where we can share our thoughts, learn something about others' point of view when it comes to armageddon etc., and even enjoy a laugh once in a while...Correct me if I'm wrong (and this goes for Stableness too or any other who whis to butt in)...I type whatever I want here as long as it is within the rules. You do the same. No one is forcing us to read eachothers posts, but the day I set up my own homepage I'll remeber to send you the link. Good luck on your armageddon btw. I'm fairly sure we won't run into eachother there.

So, it's a free-for-all-forum (which is exactly the way it should be) but anyone who wishes to chime in and dissent is butting in? It's the post count thing again isn't it...I'm still not worthy :lol: :wink:

Think before I type? That would be a new one. I might even try it. How about this:

If you haven't realized it yet, not every single human being share your point of view when it comes to armageddon, sense of humor (or the lack of it), religion in general, political standpoint, pants, teachers, parents, girl- or boyfriends, secret wishes, etc. So, we have this thing we call a forum, where we can share our thoughts, learn something about others' point of view when it comes to armageddon etc., and even enjoy a laugh once in a while...Correct me if I'm wrong (and this goes for Stableness too or any other who whis to butt in)...I type whatever I want here as long as it is within the rules. You do the same. No one is forcing us to read eachothers posts, but the day I set up my own homepage I'll remeber to send you the link. Good luck on your armageddon btw. I'm fairly sure we won't run into eachother there.

So, it's a free-for-all-forum (which is exactly the way it should be) but anyone who wishes to chime in and dissent is butting in? It's the post count thing again isn't it...I'm still not worthy :lol: :wink:

Butt in, have an own opionion, it's the same to me. I'm (almost) always dissenting. You'd know that if you knew me. Besides, I like butts. Well, most of them, but that's off topic that is. :P

You Christians are all right.

But I still don't get your religion.

You Christians are all right.

But I still don't get your religion.

Neither do we most of the time, unfortunately.

I guess this is what I have to say about those who say that The Rapture is on it's way.

Let me first say that I believe in God, salvation and all that, I am not bashing religion.

But, a lot in the Bible is so general that it's easy to just tweak things in it a bit and apply them to present times. I'm quite convinced that's what this is.

Also, it's a natural inclination to believe the time you live in is most chaotic. People in numerous periods in the past must have thought this. Communism spreading like wildfire through Asia, Eastern Europe and Africa, an untrained colonial army in the Americas beating one of the best fighting forces on the planet, people openly questioning the authority of the church, I could go on and on. We've been through worse, and we'll get through this.

I'm much more inclined to respect an established player such as BMV rather than an 18 post n00b.Yes, because as everyone knows, number of posts is directly proportional to validity of opinions. Maybe he can link you to a forum he has been visiting regularly for a while, and he can post it there. Maybe then he will be credible enough for you.

...We shouldn't all have to watch our tongues just because something we might have to say might offend you....

I wish you would tell that to PC America... :roll:

...We shouldn't all have to watch our tongues just because something we might have to say might offend you....

I wish you would tell that to PC America... :roll:

*shrug* People have the right to be offended over whatever they want. They don't, however, have the right to NOT be offended. :wink:

Allah, do your worst. Bring it on.

...We shouldn't all have to watch our tongues just because something we might have to say might offend you....

I wish you would tell that to PC America... :roll:

*shrug* People have the right to be offended over whatever they want. They don't, however, have the right to NOT be offended. :wink:

Absolutely. You can be offended by what I have to say, but don't expect me not to say it because it might offend you.

When one comes to an Internet chat or message forum one has to expect to see things that they don't necessarily want to. It's just too damn easy for some - nay all - to sit behind their computers and spew all the crud that they want to, free from all civil discourse, one on one engagement, and common decency if they so wish.

Most people, however, are mature enough to bounce ideas off of each other without resorting to such lows. I'm not one of these people :wink: :lol: :P

Its always fire and brimsone. You think people would become creative. Everything freezes, or anything peple touch turns to gold. It will be wonderful years for the pyrotechnics. :wink:

Its always fire and brimsone. You think people would become creative. Everything freezes, or anything peple touch turns to gold. It will be wonderful years for the pyrotechnics. :wink:

Well, actually, there are some schools of thought in Judaism that teach of multiple hells. There's a hell of ice for people that didn't study enough, and there's also my personal favorite- slingshot hell, where your soul is put into a giant slingshot and shot across the universe until your sins "fall off".

Cool, huh?

[quote=Stableness]Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?

Sage advice. :)

All apocalyptic religions -- Islam and Christianity being the main two -- always predict the End of the World, and it's always Just Around The Corner. The Signs and Portents industry has been with us for nearly 2000 years (more if you consider the various apocalyptic frenzies of Palestine around the time of the Roman invasions). If you read the Epistles of St Paul (especially 1 Thessalonians) you can find him writing to early Christians, telling them that the End of the World and the Second Coming will be any day now, just hang in there. Unless I've missed something, we're all still waiting.

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Obviously, you have some doubts regarding God. Whatever. As for Paul, well he was human. The fact that he speaks as he did only confirms what Jesus said: that only God knew when the End of Days would occur. It would've, therefore, been arrogant of Paul to assume that it would be far off in the distance, meaning that the only humble response to a question he must have been asked numberous times was: it's probably very near [implied: for all I, a mere human, know] Now, it's time for you to take your own "sage advice." Unlike the followers of Muhammad who had much booty to gain from continuing Muhammad's bent for wold domination, the followers of Christ had pretty much nothing to gain from perpetuating a lie. So, tell me, what could their motive possibly have been for making all of this up?
PS unwillingness to give up their delusions is not a good enough motive. Delusions start to look weak in front of a pot of boiling oil.

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

That's bullshit. If you can't handle a little religious mockery, you should be the one to leave the forum, not the humor. The world isn't going to bend over backwards to not offend you. This forum is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas and beliefs, with (almost) no censorship. If you're offended by something someone has to say about your religion, you are more than welcome to leave. We shouldn't all have to watch our tongues just because something we might have to say might offend you. If we had to do that for all 100,000 people on this forum, no one would ever get to say anything.

No, of course Muslims shouldn't be asked to respect the faith of the nations who have given them the freedom to speak out in the first place. Point out one of those decadent backwaters you called dar-al-islam that gives you rights on par with us! Show more respect

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

Think before I type? That would be a new one. I might even try it. How about this:

If you haven't realized it yet, not every single human being share your point of view when it comes to armageddon, sense of humor (or the lack of it), religion in general, political standpoint, pants, teachers, parents, girl- or boyfriends, secret wishes, etc. So, we have this thing we call a forum, where we can share our thoughts, learn something about others' point of view when it comes to armageddon etc., and even enjoy a laugh once in a while.

As it happens to be, Jesus is not only appreciated by Christians, but apparently also by the muslims although they recognize him in a different way than Christians do. Correct me if I'm wrong (and this goes for Stableness too or any other who whis to butt in) but don't think that it is fair to say that muslims believe in their armageddon just as much as you believe in yours?

I type whatever I want here as long as it is within the rules. You do the same. No one is forcing us to read eachothers posts, but the day I set up my own homepage I'll remeber to send you the link. Good luck on your armageddon btw. I'm fairly sure we won't run into eachother there.

I'm much more inclined to respect an established player such as BMV rather than an 18 post n00b.

Good article by the way. Woo (also yay).

Why, exactly? Because he is enough of a social parasite that he has the time to post 7000 posts???

i hate to break it to y'all but the likelihood is that jesus has already returned and we missed it
the bible, otherwise known as the inerrant word of god, states that jesus will return in the writers lifetime

others have predicted dates as diverse as 1000, 1844, 1910 2000
if any of these were right, we missed it
we may be now the miserable remainders soul in the b.dalton superstore of the universe

now what do we do?

Unlike the followers of Muhammad who had much booty to gain from continuing Muhammad's bent for wold domination, the followers of Christ had pretty much nothing to gain from perpetuating a lie. So, tell me, what could their motive possibly have been for making all of this up?

PS unwillingness to give up their delusions is not a good enough motive. Delusions start to look weak in front of a pot of boiling oil.

They didn't necessarily make it up. It's entirely possible that they really BELIEVED what they were saying. However, the mere fact that THEY believed their stories were factual does not, in of itself, constitute proof. All you have demonstrated is that they had faith in their beliefs and were willing to die for them. This has no bearing on the factuality or historicity of those beliefs.

Look, as a Christian myself I understand that there are many perversions withing the various Christian denominated churches which run counter to the "Good News" of Jesus' ministry. But, let me get this straight, Jesus will supposedly return and then denounce the very sect of people who try and live life according to his teachings of nearly 2000 years ago?

Do you people do any critical thinking before adopting nonsensical theories?Maybe you should take a good look at some of those who call themselves 'Christian' before you start bashing, I have a hard time reconciling some fundalmentalist dogma with the spirit of Christ's teachings. Besides, you obviously didn't take time to read the article well as it's paraphasing the Korans version of the apocalypse, not proposing a 'theory'.

I agree with Stableness. Think before you type. When you try religous humor your always going to have somebody who is mad at you. If your going to make jokes, do it on your own website. Also, the antichrist will reign for seven years and humans aren't going to be "teleported" off the planet. They will merely be kept safe. At the end of seven years God will come and the final war of Armaggedon will take place.

~Holy Emperor Octavius

Think before I type? That would be a new one. I might even try it. How about this:

If you haven't realized it yet, not every single human being share your point of view when it comes to armageddon, sense of humor (or the lack of it), religion in general, political standpoint, pants, teachers, parents, girl- or boyfriends, secret wishes, etc. So, we have this thing we call a forum, where we can share our thoughts, learn something about others' point of view when it comes to armageddon etc., and even enjoy a laugh once in a while.

As it happens to be, Jesus is not only appreciated by Christians, but apparently also by the muslims although they recognize him in a different way than Christians do. Correct me if I'm wrong (and this goes for Stableness too or any other who whis to butt in) but don't think that it is fair to say that muslims believe in their armageddon just as much as you believe in yours?

I type whatever I want here as long as it is within the rules. You do the same. No one is forcing us to read eachothers posts, but the day I set up my own homepage I'll remeber to send you the link. Good luck on your armageddon btw. I'm fairly sure we won't run into eachother there.

I'm much more inclined to respect an established player such as BMV rather than an 18 post n00b.

Good article by the way. Woo (also yay).

Why, exactly? Because he is enough of a social parasite that he has the time to post 7000 posts???

Probably because I haven't ended up on this list:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103576&start=0

as so many others have. Many of them n00bs on that list, flaiming, flame baiting, trolling etc never reached 100 posts. This phenomena doesn't happen to all newbies, but to too many.

Postcount +1.

Btw, what is a social parasite and just what makes me one except for ~20 posts/day?