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Marines Fight Iraq Rebels at Fallujah Train Station (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aTyCowre.zuI&refer=us) ~ Michael.

PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE WERE INSURGENTS THERE

PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE WERE INSURGENTS THEREThat was my guess, too. But I like telling jokes. ~ Michael.

They are attacking things because they just want to. They want to level the city and they are doing it slowly, day by day.

They said that they destroyed an anti-aircaft gun. Must have been one hell of a gun, to require 40-50 105mm rounds from an AC-130 and tank support. :shock:

They said that they destroyed an anti-aircaft gun. Must have been one hell of a gun, to require 40-50 105mm rounds from an AC-130 and tank support. :shock:

Not only that, how have they been hiding AAA guns for over a year now? :P

They are attacking things because they just want to. They want to level the city and they are doing it slowly, day by day.Yeah, those terrorists are tricky customers, trying to get the U.S. to flatten the city. Most of the Fallujahns probably just want to live in peace ... if the terrorists would let them. Maybe if the terrorists would come out from behind the women and children, then they could die like men. ~ Michael.

They are attacking things because they just want to. They want to level the city and they are doing it slowly, day by day.Yeah, those terrorists are tricky customers, trying to get the U.S. to flatten the city. Most of the Fallujahns probably just want to live in peace ... if the terrorists would let them. Maybe if the terrorists would come out from behind the women and children, then they could die like men. ~ Michael.

Haha, you're so funny.

The resistance fighters are defending their city and country. You may call them terrorists, but it really doesn't mean anything. If Israel was anti-US and Palestinians pro-US, they would be praising the bravery of the Palestinian resistance.

The Fallujah people want to be free from occupation. Leave them alone.

They are attacking things because they just want to. They want to level the city and they are doing it slowly, day by day.Yeah, those terrorists are tricky customers, trying to get the U.S. to flatten the city. Most of the Fallujahns probably just want to live in peace ... if the terrorists would let them. Maybe if the terrorists would come out from behind the women and children, then they could die like men. ~ Michael.Haha, you're so funny. The resistance fighters are defending their city and country.Would that include the terrorists from outside Iraq, too?The Fallujah people want to be free from occupation. Leave them alone.They will be by 2005 or so if the new civil government is installed, elections are held, and the people allow the new Iraqi military and police to patrol the country. ~ Michael.

Not only that, how have they been hiding AAA guns for over a year now? :P
A 2-23 or 2-57 mounted on a towed trailer can be hidden in a garage. Pretty useless against anything but a helicopter flying low and in a straightish line, and radarless, so it would never have been spotted by aircraft. Same thing with the Grad MLRS stuff they fire at the HQ buildings and US bases every couple of weeks. Compact, mobile and unguided, hence no electronic signature.

EDIT: But yeah, if that's what it was, the crew must have been bored and gone for overkill, nuts and bolts and everything.

They are attacking things because they just want to. They want to level the city and they are doing it slowly, day by day.Yeah, those terrorists are tricky customers, trying to get the U.S. to flatten the city. Most of the Fallujahns probably just want to live in peace ... if the terrorists would let them. Maybe if the terrorists would come out from behind the women and children, then they could die like men. ~ Michael.Haha, you're so funny. The resistance fighters are defending their city and country.Would that include the terrorists from outside Iraq, too?The Fallujah people want to be free from occupation. Leave them alone.They will be by 2005 or so if the new civil government is installed, elections are held, and the people allow the new Iraqi military and police to patrol the country. ~ Michael.They have come to assist the resistance. Their numbers are few. They don't want an American system imposed on them. The system must develop within the people and culture not forced on them. Leave them alone.So free elections, freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, freedom of assembly, and the right to your day in court ... these are not what any normal person wants? ~ Michael.

The resistance fighters are defending their city and country. You may call them terrorists, but it really doesn't mean anything. If Israel was anti-US and Palestinians pro-US, they would be praising the bravery of the Palestinian resistance.

Wrong, Israel would no longer exist, because if we took the weapons away from Israel and gave them all to Palestine the nation of Israel would be no more. But that's off topic isn't it.

Mabye we should just stop messing with other countries and deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues. It would make us a lot more popular in the international community to butt out when asked nicely.

Mabye we should just stop messing with other countries and deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues. It would make us a lot more popular in the international community to butt out when asked nicely.We could stop all foreign aid, too. We need to deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues, like you said. ~ Michael.

We could stop all foreign aid, too. We need to deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues, like you said. ~ Michael.

I'm actually in favor of this. Screw those freeloading jerk offs, make them work for their own money.

We could stop all foreign aid, too. We need to deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues, like you said. ~ Michael.

I'm actually in favor of this. Screw those freeloading jerk offs, make them work for their own money.

Personally, I am in favor of some foreign aid and intervention. If and when it really does support our security and national interests. Iraq was sold as such
but on, at best very faulty intel. It turns out not to have been, and worse has damaged our security and national interests.

More importantly, who rides trains? I didn't realize this was the 1850's...

'cause attacking stuff is what U.S. Marines do! They are damn good at it too! :twisted:

Ahhhhh, dduuuudddee, why do you need a reason to blow stuff up! lol. :wink:

I love the Grateful Dead

Iraqis were shooting at Marines. The marines returned fire. nothing more.

Mabye we should just stop messing with other countries and deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues. It would make us a lot more popular in the international community to butt out when asked nicely.

Agreed. It's your meddling in other countries that had caused you so many problems.

You can give aid without trying to impose your will on others, the rest of the Western world manages to do it.

We could stop all foreign aid, too. We need to deal with our own problems before we tackle other nations' issues, like you said. ~ Michael.

I'm actually in favor of this. Screw those freeloading jerk offs, make them work for their own money.

Personally, I am in favor of some foreign aid and intervention. If and when it really does support our security and national interests. Iraq was sold as such
but on, at best very faulty intel. It turns out not to have been, and worse has damaged our security and national interests.

Are you sure about that? Iraq was not a destabilizing force in that region? We have no legitimate interests in oil? Gee, you must all live in sunny southern California atop a hot spring with fields of crops on one side and manufacturing on the other all within convenient walking distance! How fortunate for you! Or perhaps someone else is paying your way through life and you don't have to concern yourself with such mundane matters.

The Kuwaiti are quite happy as is the entire Saud family. The Iranians are not too miffed really. Their long and bitter war with Saddam wasn't all that long ago. Turkey and Jordan aren't exactly wringing their hands. In fact the only ones really whining about this are some Euro's who are losing income and the fanatic muslims who hate the west no matter what. We could drop golden turds for them and they would swear on allah that we are doing it to despoil their Islamic purity.

I swear TV dinners and instant everything has made a bunch of whiners and mush heads out of many of you.

How long did the reconstruction of Europe take after WWII? It was 1953 before Europe was back on it's feet. Eight years! Who was instrumental in making it happen? The USA! The Marshall Plan set the stage for what later became the common market which paved the way to the proposed EU. A bit of a legacy for a continent that made of sport out of killing each other for centuries.

How long was Japan under Truman/MacArthur? Six years and eight months!

How long will the US be in Iraq? A year has passed. One year and and come June 30th an interim government is already being prepared but the Americans must be gone, absolutely gone. Why do you insist on this? Do you demand failure to fill your cannons of criticism?

Oh, the poor Islamic radicals! They are sooo upset. Let's buy them off and then go buy some friends with foreign aid.

No WMD's? So what! Saddam had a chance to keep all this from happening but he played it like a chump and doubted Bush would do it. He hindered, blocked and played with the UN inspectors and made it appear that he had a lot to hide. He guessed wrong by causing others to believe he presented a threat to US, and dare I say it, western security.

As usual what does the US get? Save a few level headed thinkers, kicked in the butt by a bunch of ingrates who neurotically project their own arrogance and greed on one of the best friends they have.

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