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The world would be much better if

Almighty Sephiroth
29-04-2004, 13:59
we knew for certain whether or not one religion was true. If there was one religion that was true, we could all get on with worshipping the same god, and have less reason to fight and less reason to be divided.

What do you guys think?


this random thought was brought to you by Seph ^_^
imported_1248B
29-04-2004, 14:24
I guess thats kinda obvious. Its what pretty much every theologist has been trying to prove for centuries.
Salishe
29-04-2004, 14:28
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.
Almighty Sephiroth
29-04-2004, 14:33
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.
Dempublicents
30-04-2004, 05:40
unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.

What many Christians don't realize, however, is that there is a clear difference between what they should do, which is testify and spread the Gospel, and what they shouldn't do, which is force their religion on others.

There is a huge difference between saying "I feel that Christ has died for our sins and we should worship him and this is why..." and saying "You're going to hell if you don't agree with me on every point I make!"

The Christian faith states that God gave humans free will. This means that they can choose to follow him or not. They can choose how to do so. All we as Christians are responsible for is telling how having God in our lives has affected us. Beyond that, it is the person's choice and we should respect that.
Greater Valia
30-04-2004, 05:45
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?
Demonic Furbies
30-04-2004, 05:48
i think the world would be so much better if i was just running everything.
The Atheists Reality
30-04-2004, 05:48
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke*
Greater Valia
30-04-2004, 05:49
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*
The Atheists Reality
30-04-2004, 05:49
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*

eh?
Greater Valia
30-04-2004, 05:51
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*

eh?

wuh? *drinks coke*
Automagfreek
30-04-2004, 05:51
It's all the same God, we just call him different names.

:wink:
Angvine
30-04-2004, 05:52
i think the world would be so much better if i was just running everything.

Interesting how I can have the same opinion as you, word for word, and be in utter opposition because of that.

(Damn it, no one told me competition would ever be this big when I started this whole 'I want to rule the world' thing...)

It's all the same God, we just call him different names.

:wink:

What if you're an atheist or agnostic?
HotRodia
30-04-2004, 05:52
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*

eh?

wuh? *drinks coke*

pyramid scheme?
The Atheists Reality
30-04-2004, 05:53
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*

eh?

wuh? *drinks coke*

pyramid scheme?

indeed :D
HotRodia
30-04-2004, 05:54
i think the world would be so much better if i was just running everything.

Interesting how I can have the same opinion as you, word for word, and be in utter opposition because of that.

(Damn it, no one told me competition would ever be this big when I started this whole 'I want to rule the world' thing...)

What will we do tonight, Brain?
Hakartopia
30-04-2004, 05:54
we knew for certain whether or not one religion was true. If there was one religion that was true, we could all get on with worshipping the same god, and have less reason to fight and less reason to be divided.

What do you guys think?

I think many people still would not accept this and fight regardless.
Greater Valia
30-04-2004, 05:54
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*

eh?

wuh? *drinks coke*

pyramid scheme?

indeed :Dlook down




















look up

we have hijacked this thread! w00t!
HotRodia
30-04-2004, 05:54
The problem doesn't come from having multiple faiths..it comes from those not willing to allow others the priviledge of experiencing the Devine in their own way, time, and place...I as a Pagan...am perfectly willing to let the Christian believe that a poor Jewish carpenter who ran afoul of Jewish politics and Roman Law is the savior..just so they don't interfere with my belief in Grandfather Creator.

unfortunately, the christian faith cannot allow that. They believe that anyone who doesn't believe in God and who doesn't ask him for forgiveness is going to go to hell, and they'd never wish that on anybody, this is why they try to convert others.uh, ever thought that christianity is the correct religion?

*poke**rocks out*

eh?

wuh? *drinks coke*

pyramid scheme?

indeed :D

Damn I'm good. Good enough not to participate in this anymore. :P
Automagfreek
30-04-2004, 05:55
What if you're an atheist or agnostic?

Then, "meh".
Hakartopia
30-04-2004, 05:57
Oh and another thing. What if the only God who turns out to be real is Khorne, the Chaos God of blood and slaughter? That wouldn't make the world a better place...
Demonic Furbies
30-04-2004, 05:57
i think the world would be so much better if i was just running everything.

Interesting how I can have the same opinion as you, word for word, and be in utter opposition because of that.

(Damn it, no one told me competition would ever be this big when I started this whole 'I want to rule the world' thing...)

feel like sharing it?
Angvine
30-04-2004, 05:59
feel like sharing it?

Like sharing what?
Greater Valia
30-04-2004, 05:59
Oh and another thing. What if the only God who turns out to be real is Khorne, the Chaos God of blood and slaughter? That wouldn't make the world a better place... that would be bad
Demonic Furbies
30-04-2004, 06:03
feel like sharing it?

Like sharing what?

the world
Almighty Sephiroth
30-04-2004, 08:58
Oh and another thing. What if the only God who turns out to be real is Khorne, the Chaos God of blood and slaughter? That wouldn't make the world a better place...

Better off knowing than not knowing. Anyways, we know Khorne is fictional, he was made up by Games Workshop. I know all that stuff, so don't think you can get it past me. :P
The fairy tinkerbelly
30-04-2004, 09:02
Better off knowing than not knowing.

i'd rather not know! ignorance is bliss
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 10:44
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.
30-04-2004, 10:47
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.

The world would be much better if there were no:
racist scum like you
Almighty Sephiroth
30-04-2004, 10:55
Better off knowing than not knowing.

i'd rather not know! ignorance is bliss

That's why I'm so depressed. :(


but seriously, you'd rather not know? What if it turns out another religion is right, and our worship of another was not only a waste of time but made us worthy of damnation?
The fairy tinkerbelly
30-04-2004, 10:56
i think the world would be much better if everyone just smiled at each other a lot more
30-04-2004, 10:57
i think the world would be much better if everyone just smiled at each other a lot more

wow, Barbie had an idea :P
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 10:59
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.

The world would be much better if there were no:
racist scum like you
hey assface, I condemed the KKK and you're calling me a racist.

You cant read too well can you?
The fairy tinkerbelly
30-04-2004, 11:04
i think the world would be much better if everyone just smiled at each other a lot more

wow, Barbie had an idea :P

excuse me?! Barbie?! just because i think it's important to smile and be happy doesn't make me a blonde bimbo! i happen to be quite intelligent and not made of plastic!
Hakartopia
30-04-2004, 11:04
Oh and another thing. What if the only God who turns out to be real is Khorne, the Chaos God of blood and slaughter? That wouldn't make the world a better place...

Better off knowing than not knowing. Anyways, we know Khorne is fictional, he was made up by Games Workshop. I know all that stuff, so don't think you can get it past me. :P

Some people say that about other gods as well. :P

Besides, Khorne is probably based on some 'real' God anyway, seeing as GW has no imagination whatsoever.
Dragons Bay
30-04-2004, 11:06
If hate disappeared.
30-04-2004, 11:06
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.

The world would be much better if there were no:
racist scum like you
hey assface, I condemed the KKK and you're calling me a racist.

You cant read too well can you?

You equate the NAACP and the KKK? You're a COWARDLY racist buttwipe.
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 11:07
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.

The world would be much better if there were no:
racist scum like you
hey assface, I condemed the KKK and you're calling me a racist.

You cant read too well can you?
You equate the NAACP and the KKK? You're a COWARDLY racist buttwipe.actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.
30-04-2004, 11:09
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.

The world would be much better if there were no:
racist scum like you
hey assface, I condemed the KKK and you're calling me a racist.

You cant read too well can you?
You equate the NAACP and the KKK? You're a COWARDLY racist buttwipe.actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

It's on your list you piece of shit. Are youo some kind of failed abortion?
Almighty Sephiroth
30-04-2004, 11:14
Oh and another thing. What if the only God who turns out to be real is Khorne, the Chaos God of blood and slaughter? That wouldn't make the world a better place...

Better off knowing than not knowing. Anyways, we know Khorne is fictional, he was made up by Games Workshop. I know all that stuff, so don't think you can get it past me. :P

Some people say that about other gods as well. :P

Besides, Khorne is probably based on some 'real' God anyway, seeing as GW has no imagination whatsoever.

Yeah, it can be said about Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch :P

It may very well be, although they have some imagination, it just doesn't show. :lol:
Oh well. 40k rules!
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 11:15
actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

It's on your list you piece of shit. Are youo some kind of failed abortion?
yes, if you could read, not just spell out letters in your head, you would be able to read Black Panthers clearly on my list.

The point of the list was not things that piss me off (eventhough the Robert Foster addition was) but that people need to discover some individuality, instead of taking the values of the group they join.

¿Comprende, you piece of afterbirth?
Almighty Sephiroth
30-04-2004, 11:18
actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

It's on your list you piece of shit. Are youo some kind of failed abortion?
yes, if you could read, not just spell out letters in your head, you would be able to read Black Panthers clearly on my list.

The point of the list was not things that piss me off (eventhough the Robert Foster addition was) but that people need to discover some individuality, instead of taking the values of the group they join.

¿Comprende, you piece of afterbirth?

ENOUGH! Take it outside you guys.
30-04-2004, 11:19
actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

It's on your list you piece of shit. Are youo some kind of failed abortion?
yes, if you could read, not just spell out letters in your head, you would be able to read Black Panthers clearly on my list.

The point of the list was not things that piss me off (eventhough the Robert Foster addition was) but that people need to discover some individuality, instead of taking the values of the group they join.

¿Comprende, you piece of afterbirth?[/quote]

Ok so now the shit for brain is going to help us discover some indiduality :)
Hakartopia
30-04-2004, 11:22
Oh and another thing. What if the only God who turns out to be real is Khorne, the Chaos God of blood and slaughter? That wouldn't make the world a better place...

Better off knowing than not knowing. Anyways, we know Khorne is fictional, he was made up by Games Workshop. I know all that stuff, so don't think you can get it past me. :P

Some people say that about other gods as well. :P

Besides, Khorne is probably based on some 'real' God anyway, seeing as GW has no imagination whatsoever.

Yeah, it can be said about Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch :P

I know, but I chose Khorne as a nice and immediately destructive deity.
Myrth
30-04-2004, 11:23
The world would be much better if there were no: KKK, ACLU, NAACP, UNCF, UN, AARP, GLAAD, NOW, GOP, DNC, UAL, OPEC, Black Panthers, terrorists, Affirmative Action, KAs, assholes named Robert Foster, hippies, the NRA, Green Party, NAMBLA, and everyone just got along without wanting to be identified with a certian group.

If anyone is curious to who some of these groups are, just ask.

The world would be much better if there were no:
racist scum like you
hey assface, I condemed the KKK and you're calling me a racist.

You cant read too well can you?
You equate the NAACP and the KKK? You're a COWARDLY racist buttwipe.actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

New Auburnland, this is an official warning.
Do. Not. Flame.
If you continue to do so, you will be deleted.

Myrth
Forum Moderatz0r
Hakartopia
30-04-2004, 11:24
actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

It's on your list you piece of shit. Are youo some kind of failed abortion?
yes, if you could read, not just spell out letters in your head, you would be able to read Black Panthers clearly on my list.

The point of the list was not things that piss me off (eventhough the Robert Foster addition was) but that people need to discover some individuality, instead of taking the values of the group they join.

¿Comprende, you piece of afterbirth?

ENOUGH! Take it outside you guys.

Yeah, otherwise we'll unleash Khorne on you. :P
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 11:24
learn how to post, then come at me with an intelligent reply, and then I will acknowledge your existence.
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 11:25
New Auburnland, this is an official warning.
Do. Not. Flame.
If you continue to do so, you will be deleted.

Myrth
Forum Moderatz0r
I am sorry, I should have just ignored him. As always, you are right.
Almighty Sephiroth
30-04-2004, 11:26
actually I was equating the KKK to the black panthers you cum stain.

It's on your list you piece of shit. Are youo some kind of failed abortion?
yes, if you could read, not just spell out letters in your head, you would be able to read Black Panthers clearly on my list.

The point of the list was not things that piss me off (eventhough the Robert Foster addition was) but that people need to discover some individuality, instead of taking the values of the group they join.

¿Comprende, you piece of afterbirth?

ENOUGH! Take it outside you guys.

Yeah, otherwise we'll unleash Khorne on you. :P

Nah, Slaanesh would inflict much more pain before finally releasing their charred husks when they can feel no more.
Hakartopia
30-04-2004, 11:27
learn how to post, then come at me with an intelligent reply, and then I will acknowledge your existence.

I do hope you're not talking to Myrth.
New Auburnland
30-04-2004, 11:29
learn how to post, then come at me with an intelligent reply, and then I will acknowledge your existence.

I do hope you're not talking to Myrth.
no i wasn't. I hope Myrth doesn't take it that way. I don't have a DEAT wish or anything. I was directing it at the n00b.