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Eh....why not?

You mean we'll be PRO-Right-wing? or pro-left-wing?

what's crazy is, most liberals actually believe there is a Right Wing Conspiracy in every aspect of American life.

I won't join until it gets big enough to be the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. :P

This will only grow with your help.

(Besides, if you're not in it... you won't know how VAST it truly is! BWAHAHA!)

I think God says it best when he says, "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." --Ecclesiastes 10:2

I think I would prefer to be part of The Red Arrow's hated Centrist anti-democratic elite, which stifles radical thought. :)

How vast can something get before it stops being a conspiracy and starts being mainstream?

I think I would prefer to be part of The Red Arrow's hated Centrist anti-democratic elite, which stifles radical thought. :)

oh please! Here, your on the media every day! With REAL criticizm! With REAL news articles!

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

The Neo-Cons are real and they openly call World Domination!
They explained what they were going to do and even boasted about creating a new "Pearl Harbor" event to rally the people behind them!

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

The Neo-Cons are real and they openly call World Domination!
They explained what they were going to do and even boasted about creating a new "Pearl Harbor" event to rally the people behind them!

:roll: and John Titor is real

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

The Neo-Cons are real and they openly call World Domination!
They explained what they were going to do and even boasted about creating a new "Pearl Harbor" event to rally the people behind them! what bullshit, only the suff TRA posts eclipses this

The Right Wing Conspiracy
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"Thanks to the Right Wing Conspiracy, my kids can go to sleep sound at night. Because of the good old boys network, we'll never have to fear paying the bills again! I've gained an inside into the military-industrial complex, and I'm set for life! Thank you, Mr. Man!"

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this is obviously an anti-right wing joke

With the power of the MAN, we could crush this!

this is obviously an anti-right wing joke
Actually, I am a Republican. I just know how to laugh at myself. 8)

The Project for a New American Century does exist. I have read their paper, Rebuilding America's Defences (pretty much 'How We Plan to Take Over the World') in full. It was been written by the big cheeses in the Bush Administration during the 1990s. Some of the bits deal with destroying any regional power which may arise anywhere, and implicitly recognises the need to take out every other industrial nation if they resist American dominance. So there is no question about it, PNAC is not BS, they are actual US Government people. The big question is to what extent they are an international fascist conspiracy which caused 9/11, etc ad infinitum. That's where the real meat of the debate (and all too often n00bery) lies.

The Project for a New American Century does exist. I have read their paper, Rebuilding America's Defences (pretty much 'How We Plan to Take Over the World') in full. It was been written by the big cheeses in the Bush Administration during the 1990s. Some of the bits deal with destroying any regional power which may arise anywhere, and implicitly recognises the need to take out every other industrial nation if they resist American dominance. So there is no question about it, PNAC is not BS, they are actual US Government people. The big question is to what extent they are an international fascist conspiracy which caused 9/11, etc ad infinitum. That's where the real meat of the debate (and all too often n00bery) lies.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf


Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor.

This is just like Mein Kampf...

Oh the theory is there, countless advisors have written over the years, in general terms, about how it is desirable to manufacture threats where none exist in order to breed a primitive sort of religious patriotism and render the public open to manipulation into whichever direction the government wishes. This direction usually being world domination. You can buy any number of books written by various neo-con thinkers which basically say all of that. The question is whether the current government is actually carrying out such policies to the letter. There you get into a lot of stuff which if one is not careful, makes one sound like The Red Arrow. Not a label I want.

I don't see what the problem is, seeking American dominance in the world. The Soviet Union wanted to take over the world. So did Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. The British Empire wanted the same, and although it subjugated much of the world, it hardly sent millions to death and exile as the others did. Communist China no doubt will want to dominate the world through its manufacturing prowess and its sheer population. Radical Muslims want to take over the world. So which do you want to see in charge? Yes, it's nice to want free republics and democracies across the world to wield equal amounts of power, but would that ever happen? How much power should we allow dictators and totalitarian governments to wield over their people? How much influence over their neighbors should we let them have? ~ Michael.

You make a fair point about dominating the world. Personally, I do not believe one should have to choose one world overlord. I am more creative than that. I would like to see the US, the EU/Russia and China as three poles of power acting as moderating influences on each other. A single global power is too much of an imbalance to make for stability. As countless hegemonic empires past have discovered, when one is in an unrivalled position of power, the simple fact of your existence invites attack.

You make a fair point about dominating the world. Personally, I do not believe one should have to choose one world overlord. I am more creative than that. I would like to see the US, the EU/Russia and China as three poles of power acting as moderating influences on each other. A single global power is too much of an imbalance to make for stability. As countless hegemonic empires past have discovered, when one is in an unrivalled position of power, the simple fact of your existence invites attack.


The Triade power grid described in "1984" is exactly what you speak of: the truth is that the "Three" are really one in the same; they just use each other to justify the threat of war and sanctity of their oppressive power...

Actually, the PNAC map doesn't look much different: http://www.newamericancentury.org/

I don't see what the problem is, seeking American dominance in the world. The Soviet Union wanted to take over the world. So did Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. The British Empire wanted the same, and although it subjugated much of the world, it hardly sent millions to death and exile as the others did. Communist China no doubt will want to dominate the world through its manufacturing prowess and its sheer population. Radical Muslims want to take over the world. So which do you want to see in charge?

I see a problem in putting America in the same catagory as the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Communist China...

Any real American should as well!

I have had that pointed out to me before, and my response is, the geopolitics of Orwell's 1984 are preferable to a single hegemony no matter what its nature, at least as far as I am concerned. If it comes to making a choice from a whole range of evils, I am choosing several, not one.

:roll: and John Titor is real

The story of John Titor is more believable than the "conspiracy theory" that 9/11 was carried out by a few "cave-dwellers" that only had experience in simulated flying...

I don't see what the problem is, seeking American dominance in the world. The Soviet Union wanted to take over the world. So did Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. The British Empire wanted the same, and although it subjugated much of the world, it hardly sent millions to death and exile as the others did. Communist China no doubt will want to dominate the world through its manufacturing prowess and its sheer population. Radical Muslims want to take over the world. So which do you want to see in charge? I see a problem in putting America in the same catagory as the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Communist China... Any real American should as well!I was comparing the attempts of world domination by evil regimes compared to republican democratic regimes. I was not equating American dominance with Naziism and totalitarianism. ~ Michael.

I have had that pointed out to me before, and my response is, the geopolitics of Orwell's 1984 are preferable to a single hegemony no matter what its nature, at least as far as I am concerned. If it comes to making a choice from a whole range of evils, I am choosing several, not one.

This is to miss the point: There is only an illusion of division because since whole arrangement is a faux-pas. One World Government is only feasable if it looks like it's really "Three rival Superpowers." The "Three" only exist to create wars with each other in third-world nations in order to keep the citizens enslaved to the military-industrial complex.

Can I send you an essay that explains this better?

:roll: and John Titor is real

The story of John Titor is more believable than the "conspiracy theory" that 9/11 was carried out by a few "cave-dwellers" that only had experience in simulated flying...


Dude, they trained here for 3 YEARS!!!!!! Al-Queda did do 9/11 rather you like it or not. BTW, That Pax Americana thing is BS! I am not shocked that a bunch of Liberals brought it up right around election time.... Left-Wing BS? Could Be....

I was comparing the attempts of world domination by evil regimes compared to republican democratic regimes. I was not equating American dominance with Naziism and totalitarianism. ~ Michael.

Dominance is dominance...

When America acts like an Empire, it becomes an Empire.
The Empire, like all others, must be destroyed.

This is to miss the point: There is only an illusion of division because since whole arrangement is a faux-pas. One World Government is only feasable if it looks like it's really "Three rival Superpowers." The "Three" only exist to create wars with each other in third-world nations in order to keep the citizens enslaved to the military-industrial complex.

Can I send you an essay that explains this better?
:? Hmm. I suppose so. I have to go now, but you can reach me by telegram.

Dude, they trained here for 3 YEARS!!!!!! Al-Queda did do 9/11 rather you like it or not.

Where is the proof that they were on the plane?

BTW, That Pax Americana thing is BS! I am not shocked that a bunch of Liberals brought it up right around election time.... Left-Wing BS? Could Be....

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Dude, they trained here for 3 YEARS!!!!!! Al-Queda did do 9/11 rather you like it or not.

Where is the proof that they were on the plane?

BTW, That Pax Americana thing is BS! I am not shocked that a bunch of Liberals brought it up right around election time.... Left-Wing BS? Could Be....

http://www.newamericancentury.org/


:roll:


1. You are brainwashed, look into the Black boxes found, it was Al-Queda.

2. A Non-Government site i see?

You are an embarrassment!

I was comparing the attempts of world domination by evil regimes compared to republican democratic regimes. I was not equating American dominance with Naziism and totalitarianism. ~ Michael.Dominance is dominance... When America acts like an Empire, it becomes an Empire. The Empire, like all others, must be destroyed.There is a difference, in my opinion, to occupation for imperialistic purposes -- to dominate over the long-term for money and glory -- and to dominate over the short-term to liberate the oppressed so they form free and stable government that won't attack the United States. ~ Michael.

1. You are brainwashed, look into the Black boxes found, it was Al-Queda.

Which black-boxes were found? Where on the recording does it say "were al-Qa'ida and we're doing this," and what proof does the government have to assume it was al-Qa'ida?

If al-Qa'ida was created by the CIA and Bush has ties with bin Laden, why support Bush?


2. A Non-Government site i see?

PNAC members include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and other high ranking officials...


You are an embarrassment!

Or is it that I ask questions that embarrass the weak minded?

There is a difference, in my opinion, to occupation for imperialistic purposes -- to dominate over the long-term for money and glory --

Ah, but when Bush administration officials are making billions off of the war in no-bid contracts -- can you really say it isn't about "money?"

and if Bush's re-election bid is all about him being a "steadfast war-president" -- can you really say it isn't about "glory?"



and to dominate over the short-term to liberate the oppressed so they form free and stable government that won't attack the United States. ~ Michael.

There is why the North Vietnamese call the fall of Saigon "Liberation Day."

The PNAC is part of the NWO!
The Neo-Cons have out Soviet-ed the Soviets.
They have us fighting phoney wars in third world countires.
The EU and NATO have obliterated the rights of their member-states and are at Russia's door while the KGB takes control of that country.
China is making aggressive moves towards Tiawan, Korea and Japan.
The Arab world is being aggitated by outsiders -- when the US leaves, will they not try to enact revenge on Isreal? When they do, does anyone doubt that both will be destroyed?
The police-state Executives are pushing America into Civil War!

Does the END seem more realistic now?

There is a difference, in my opinion, to occupation for imperialistic purposes -- to dominate over the long-term for money and glory -- Ah, but when Bush administration officials are making billions off of the war in no-bid contracts -- can you really say it isn't about "money?" and if Bush's re-election bid is all about him being a "steadfast war-president" -- can you really say it isn't about "glory?"Someone has to rebuild Iraq. If the Iraqi people do not have the training and equipment, then Americans and other Westerners should. and to dominate over the short-term to liberate the oppressed so they form free and stable government that won't attack the United States. ~ Michael. There is why the North Vietnamese call the fall of Saigon "Liberation Day."You mean the Vietnamese who are allies of saber-rattling Communist China, who aims nuclear missiles at us, has clamped down on elections in Hong Kong, and wants to invade and occupy free Taiwan? Is that the Vietnam of which you speak? ~ Michael.

You mean the Vietnamese who are allies of saber-rattling Communist China, who aims nuclear missiles at us, has clamped down on elections in Hong Kong, and wants to invade and occupy free Taiwan? Is that the Vietnam of which you speak? ~ Michael.

Yeah, because it's not as if the USA has ever had any unsavoury allies. When Iraq and the USA were bosom buddies (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/), Saddam Hussein was a positive angel of mercy.

It's also the same Vietnam who, shortly after beating the USA in a gruelling war, went into Cambodia and kicked out the Khmer Rouge -- who had taken power partly as a result of the USA's illegal carpet-bombing of that country.

Welcome to Planet Earth, where nothing is ever black and white!

(For the record, I'd like to say that if I HAD to choose an international hegemon, out of the likely choices currently on offer I'd pick the USA any day. But I'd rather not have to choose.)

There is a difference, in my opinion, to occupation for imperialistic purposes -- to dominate over the long-term for money and glory -- Ah, but when Bush administration officials are making billions off of the war in no-bid contracts -- can you really say it isn't about "money?" and if Bush's re-election bid is all about him being a "steadfast war-president" -- can you really say it isn't about "glory?" Someone has to rebuild Iraq. If the Iraqi people do not have the training and equipment, then Americans and other Westerners should.

Yes, but when the people who make the decission to go to war are Rumsfeld (ties to Bachtel) Cheney (Ties to Halliburton) and Bush (ties to Carlyle) and those companies make BILLIONS in tax payer dollars in no-bid contracts awarded to them by people who profit from those contracts: that's called a military-industrial complex: it's not about "rebuilding" anything, it's about robbing Trillions from the American Tax-Payer



and to dominate over the short-term to liberate the oppressed so they form free and stable government that won't attack the United States. ~ Michael. There is why the North Vietnamese call the fall of Saigon "Liberation Day."You mean the Vietnamese who are allies of saber-rattling Communist China, who aims nuclear missiles at us, has clamped down on elections in Hong Kong, and wants to invade and occupy free Taiwan? Is that the Vietnam of which you speak? ~ Michael.

I think you missed my point: Saigon wasn't "Liberated" but the North Vietnamese still call it "Liberation Day"

This is the same as the US calling a puppet dictatorship "Democracy" in Iraq even when the majority of Iraqis want the US out.... that's called an unwanted occupation -- not "Freedom"

(For the record, I'd like to say that if I HAD to choose an international hegemon, out of the likely choices currently on offer I'd pick the USA any day. But I'd rather not have to choose.)

If the USA becomes an international hegemon then it will no-longer be the USA: "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"

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