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I think a woman should run AND win the elections for president. I mean, I can't vote yet, but it seems to me that a woman would do a way better job than any of the recent male presidents I've seen. I mean, I'm not trying to be sexist here, but can anyone honestly say they're impressed with Bush or Clinton? I'd have to see a woman run the country before I could dismiss the idea.

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"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

There are good male presidents and there are bad male presidents. I cannot expect anything different from a female president

It's gonna happen. Although not now...we need an agressive President!

I think a woman should run AND win the elections for president. I mean, I can't vote yet, but it seems to me that a woman would do a way better job than any of the recent male presidents I've seen. I mean, I'm not trying to be sexist here, but can anyone honestly say they're impressed with Bush or Clinton? I'd have to see a woman run the country before I could dismiss the idea.

*Cat*


"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

Well...We had the first female president and she did fine.

Remember, there are Corazon Aquinos and Maggie Thatchers out there.

There are good male presidents and there are bad male presidents. I cannot expect anything different from a female president!
I totally agree wih that.

It's gonna happen. Although not now...we need an agressive President!
I can't agree with this.

First, I think a woman can be just as aggressive a leader as a man. (Remember Margaret Thatcher?).

Second, I think the last thing we need right now is an aggressive president. What we need right now is an extremely intelligent present who is an extremely skilled negotiator who can get us out of the tangled Iraq mess, or at least, help negotiations between the different groups in Iraq as they begin to rebuild their government.

But we cannot have a President who' would want to back down out of Afghanistan for OBVIOUS reasons

HOLY COW! I'm nearing 2000 and I barely hit 1900 TODAY!

I think a woman should run AND win the elections for president. I mean, I can't vote yet, but it seems to me that a woman would do a way better job than any of the recent male presidents I've seen. I mean, I'm not trying to be sexist here, but can anyone honestly say they're impressed with Bush or Clinton? I'd have to see a woman run the country before I could dismiss the idea.

*Cat*


"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

First of all, I like your Roosevelt quote, so you're cool by me already.

Hey now, Clinton was a great prez, not to mention probably the coolest one ever.
(one of my favorite anti-bush slogans is "bring cigars and saxaphones back to the white house!")

I met Hillary Clinton at my best friend's house (his dad's a big shot, but I'm not going to state his name because it would reveal my location...STAY AWAY ASHCROFT)

She was so awesome, and very friendly and personable. I think she could possibly be the first woman president.

Please nobody come on here and bash Hill.

I think a woman should run AND win the elections for president. I mean, I can't vote yet, but it seems to me that a woman would do a way better job than any of the recent male presidents I've seen. I mean, I'm not trying to be sexist here, but can anyone honestly say they're impressed with Bush or Clinton? I'd have to see a woman run the country before I could dismiss the idea.

*Cat*


"Speak softly and carry a big stick."


If you can find a good one, go ahead.

BTW, I like Bush.

Rice v clinton in four years' time?

Rice v clinton in four years' time?

Rice? Now that is a funny thought.

That would be great to vote for the 1st time against Condasleeza.

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Maggie Thatcher(UK)....disaster

Golda Meir (Israel)....disaster

Megawati Sukarnoputri.(Indonesia).....disaster

Indira Ghandi (India)......disaster

Mary Robinson, (Ireland) seems good.

The Burmese opposition leader, whose name escapes me for the moment, has always impressed me.

Can anyone name any women head of state universally, or even widely, recognised as successful.

Perhaps not enough of a sample to really judge yet.

I don't doubt that there are women who would be competent in the job, just can't think of too many examples.

Maggie Thatcher(UK)....disaster

Golda Meir (Israel)....disaster

Megawati Sukarnoputri.(Indonesia).....disaster

Indira Ghandi (India)......disaster

Mary Robinson, (Ireland) seems good.

The Burmese opposition leader, whose name escapes me for the moment, has always impressed me.

Can anyone name any women head of state universally, or even widely, recognised as successful.

Perhaps not enough of a sample to really judge yet.

I don't doubt that there are women who would be competent in the job, just can't think of too many examples.

Fair enough.... Now name the men who are competent in the job ... Er ...There must be one, somewhere ...

Maggie Thatcher was competent, she was also uncurably insane...

Maggie Thatcher was competent, she was also uncurably insane...

And she wielded a mean handbag ... how many men can say that?

Maggie Thatcher was competent, she was also uncurably insane...

she crippled the NHS and education......how can sh be competant?

I endorse Catherine Keener for President!
The way she says "Who's in?!" in that Verizon Wireless commercial is very states(wo)manlike :D

P.S. Oh, and I wouldn't mind at all if Hillary, Condi and Madeleine accidentally fall into a pond full of very hungry piranhas.

Gloria Macapagal Arroyo of the Philippines has handled some tough problems very successfully so far.

http://www.kgma.org/

There are good male presidents and there are bad male presidents. I cannot expect anything different from a female president!
I totally agree wih that.

It's gonna happen. Although not now...we need an agressive President!
I can't agree with this.

First, I think a woman can be just as aggressive a leader as a man. (Remember Margaret Thatcher?).

Second, I think the last thing we need right now is an aggressive president. What we need right now is an extremely intelligent present who is an extremely skilled negotiator who can get us out of the tangled Iraq mess, or at least, help negotiations between the different groups in Iraq as they begin to rebuild their government.

I can agree women can be aggressive. I mean when they have PMS like what Mrs. Clinton seems to have all the time you know they can be brutal and kick ass. Also the president has to be ugly because you know how ugly chicks are smart.

I think a woman should run AND win the elections for president. I mean, I can't vote yet, but it seems to me that a woman would do a way better job than any of the recent male presidents I've seen. I mean, I'm not trying to be sexist here, but can anyone honestly say they're impressed with Bush or Clinton? I'd have to see a woman run the country before I could dismiss the idea.

*Cat*


"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

First of all, I like your Roosevelt quote, so you're cool by me already.

Hey now, Clinton was a great prez, not to mention probably the coolest one ever.
(one of my favorite anti-bush slogans is "bring cigars and saxaphones back to the white house!")

I met Hillary Clinton at my best friend's house (his dad's a big shot, but I'm not going to state his name because it would reveal my location...STAY AWAY ASHCROFT)

She was so awesome, and very friendly and personable. I think she could possibly be the first woman president.

Please nobody come on here and bash Hill.

Well lets see Clinton bombed the hell out of Yugoslavia, handed them money, backed out and said good luck which created heavy anti-American sentiment in that region of the world by both the Christians and the Muslims. He also gave weapons to Osama Bin Laden who was also fighting with the Bosnians, Stationed troops all over parts of the world (and you call Bush a blood thirsty Maniac), had a affair (even though it escapes me why this was such a big deal but you can?t blame him, because he married a cold, vicious dyke) and screwed up the nations health care plan.

Wasn't Thatcher the English/British/whatever the term is counterpart to reagan, in other words evil?

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Thatcher was evil but the thing is, in a cold-blooded, heartless way, she was an excellent PM. Effective for a given value of effective.

Like I said, I think she was evil but she was probably the most successful evil dictator of the late 20th century.

Now if only she had had a heart.

I really hope Hillary doesnt get elected in 2008, I think we can find better female candidates. I think some people will be so excited about having a female president that they will vote for her regardless of who shes running against.

If Bush wins re-election this year, 2008 will be a tough year for Republicans to win. Their best hope would to get a new Vice President and get him ready for 2008.

A female president wouldn't be a huge step, in my view - now a non-white or poor president, that'd be something.

How about we concentrate on having a white, male, non-Christian president first? Baby steps, people.

Good idea!

Can anyone name any women head of state universally, or even widely, recognised as successful

Queen Elizabeth II, head of state of Britain, and the commonwealth. Yeah, she doesn't do anything, but she's pretty successful.

Victoria and Elizabeth I didn't make a bad job of it either.

Thatcher was evil but the thing is, in a cold-blooded, heartless way, she was an excellent PM. Effective for a given value of effective.

Like I said, I think she was evil but she was probably the most successful evil dictator of the late 20th century.

Now if only she had had a heart.

Thatcher did more for democracy than any of the Labour PM's and probably any other PM.

Pre Thatcher : Post Thatcher

Britain's economy laughing stock : Free Market Paradise
Union Minority Rule : Unions crushed

Just some examples.
And don't forget that Thatcher did an excellent job showing Britain does not negotiate with terrorists.

She did more for Britain's place on the world stage than Blair. Falklands, showing people now to "mess with Britain".

She showed that it doesn't matter your gender it matters how good your skills.

The only reason I am cautious in having or voting for a female candidate is that I don't want a president who is elected only because of their gender. (same goes with race: I don't want somebody elected just because the happen to be a minority member.) However, if I feel they are good candidates and they seem to either know what they are doing or that they could get the job done, then i will happily vote for them.

Thatcher was evil but the thing is, in a cold-blooded, heartless way, she was an excellent PM. Effective for a given value of effective.

Like I said, I think she was evil but she was probably the most successful evil dictator of the late 20th century.

Now if only she had had a heart.

Thatcher did more for democracy than any of the Labour PM's and probably any other PM.

Pre Thatcher : Post Thatcher

Britain's economy laughing stock : Free Market Paradise
Union Minority Rule : Unions crushed

Just some examples.
And don't forget that Thatcher did an excellent job showing Britain does not negotiate with terrorists.

She did more for Britain's place on the world stage than Blair. Falklands, showing people now to "mess with Britain".

She showed that it doesn't matter your gender it matters how good your skills.

<cough> Poll Tax <cough>
I agree about your point avbout the Free Market though.

Actually, the poll tax represented a very effective, tranparent and fair way to provide funds for local services, from an economic viewpoint anyway.

It is true a lot of Britain's social welfare was cutback, but most of it was bloated anyway by ridiculous overspending by the previous Labour government that did more to destroy Britains economic prosperity than anythng else. Having to go crawling to the IMF for funds is not something we Brits are proud of.

Thatcher inherited a government and country going through a difficult economic period as the national economy transisted to a service and financial based system. She did several things that may have seemed cruel, but there is a reason now why we have the 4th largest economy in the world.

She did a lot to restore British pride, and was, IMHO, a genuine leader as opposed to the lapdog of Bush and Brussels that we have now. Cruel, pitiless, and conservative, she was, nonetheless, the last real leader of the UK.

Women Leaders?

Thatcher and Queen Victoria spring to mind as notable one's.

Here in Canada we experienced Kim Campbell and it left a HORRID taste in everyone's mouth...she also managed to completely decimate her own party in the general election...

President Chandrika Bandaranaike Kumarantunga, Sri Lanka
1997- President Mary McAleese, Ireland
1999- President Vaira Vike-Freiberga, Latvia
1999- Premier Minister Hon. Helen Clark, New Zealand
2000- President Tarja Halonen, Finland
2001- Executive President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, The Philippines (She deserves special mention for personal style)
2001- Prime Minister Begum Khaleda Zia, Bangladesh

Women leaders are not as rare as people think.

As for the U.S. presidency, Hillary Clinton will probably try and fail to win the candidacy of the Democratic party. Several women have tried since the beginning of the 20th century and ALL of them have failed by substantial margins. Next Republican candidate will, to me, be Giuliani and I think there is potential for Mrs.Rice to be in his candidate or one can only hope as vice-president. If Hillary where to win, I'm assure the Republicans would at least ensure that the Vice presidency is occupied by a woman.

In any case, I hope that elections never come down gender lines. Its always about who makes the better leader regardless of gender.