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Because this is the sort of thing that we've never discussed before. Kerry.

kerry

Because this is the sort of thing that we've never discussed before. Kerry.

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Kerry

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Because this is the sort of thing that we've never discussed before. Kerry.

This is not just about angry discussions over who should win, I also want to see who people are going to vote for in the elections.

Yeah, but you know that that's what it's going to degenerate into.

Because this is the sort of thing that we've never discussed before. Kerry.

This is not just about angry discussions over who should win, I also want to see who people are going to vote for in the elections.

Yeah, but you know that that's what it's going to degenerate into.

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Allright, I know im in for it, but I chose my man Dubya. :lol:

You're getting killed so far.

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?

That's kind of the point of foriegn policy, Steph. It has to, by definition, affect the rest of the world somewhat.

Voted half-heartedly for Kerry.

bush.

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?

That's kind of the point of foriegn policy, Steph. It has to, by definition, affect the rest of the world somewhat.

Oh, I realize that Sdaeriji, it's just that foreign policy doesn't have to force it's will onto the rest of the world either the way the Bush's administration have. It's too bad that the American public can't see objectively what it's doing to their image and the once earned respect they had.. that seems to be less and less every day..

I think Pauline Neville Jones a senior civil servant in the British Foreign Office said it best;

"It sent a shiver down my back. I just said to myself, no country, however powerful, can operate on the world in this way by itself and hope to have friends and ultimately succeed."

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Oooh, Kerry's lead has diminished. It's turning into a race.

Few problems with this poll

-People who aren;t registered U.S. voters will be voting...against Bush naturally
-This forum is riddled with liberals, destroying the realism
-This is the 8th topic doing this
-We do not know the Vice-Presidents

I was thinking it wasn't a good one because the people who arent even Americans would be voting.

Also a lot people aren'teven old enough to vote.

Go Bush.

Kwas out.

Because this is the sort of thing that we've never discussed before. Kerry.

This is not just about angry discussions over who should win, I also want to see who people are going to vote for in the elections.

I wonder what result we'd get if we'd limit the poll to those who can/will actually be voting. Not that anyone would actually restrain themselves, but it'd be interesting in theory.

Because this is the sort of thing that we've never discussed before. Kerry.

This is not just about angry discussions over who should win, I also want to see who people are going to vote for in the elections.

I wonder what result we'd get if we'd limit the poll to those who can/will actually be voting. Not that anyone would actually restrain themselves, but it'd be interesting in theory.

You'd probably get the 50/50 mix that all the major polls are showing right now.

I can't believe Bush is winning.

SAVOR THE MOMENT, MY CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS!

I can't believe Bush is winning.

SAVOR THE MOMENT, MY CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS!

F***. Bush is winning. What has this world come to?

This is weird. Bush was getting killed earlier. It's like the liberals and the conservatives all sign on with their respective groups.

I can't believe Bush is winning.

SAVOR THE MOMENT, MY CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS!

F***. Bush is winning. What has this world come to?


The world is getting smarter, thats what!

Also don't forget people & their puppets will be able to vote endlessly.. this is by no means a scientific poll..lol :)

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?
I understand what you're saying, but if the rest of the world voted in our elections it would be a tacit concete that the US does indeed rule the world. No matter what goods we produce, if we become to hard to deal with the rest of the world will go elsewhere. You can see some of the rhetoric, 'where else in the world can you yadda yadda,' there is a blind spot to the notion that other nations offer many of the same things we do and aren't such a f'n hassle. When that happens, we'll implode since we're built on sucking on the marrow.

We need to acknowledge that we live in a world community and we can only get away with pissing in peoples yards for so long...

Aaand Kerry is back in the lead :D

Kerry.

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?
I understand what you're saying, but if the rest of the world voted in our elections it would be a tacit concete that the US does indeed rule the world. No matter what goods we produce, if we become to hard to deal with the rest of the world will go elsewhere. You can see some of the rhetoric, 'where else in the world can you yadda yadda,' there is a blind spot to the notion that other nations offer many of the same things we do and aren't such a f'n hassle. When that happens, we'll implode since we're built on sucking on the marrow.

We need to acknowledge that we live in a world community and we can only get away with pissing in peoples yards for so long...

Well perhaps the other main powers in the world should have a say in foreign policy that any country makes that would allow them to make a decision that would allow them to move unilaterally against another nation in the world.. Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?
I understand what you're saying, but if the rest of the world voted in our elections it would be a tacit concete that the US does indeed rule the world. No matter what goods we produce, if we become to hard to deal with the rest of the world will go elsewhere. You can see some of the rhetoric, 'where else in the world can you yadda yadda,' there is a blind spot to the notion that other nations offer many of the same things we do and aren't such a f'n hassle. When that happens, we'll implode since we're built on sucking on the marrow.

We need to acknowledge that we live in a world community and we can only get away with pissing in peoples yards for so long...

Well perhaps the other main powers in the world should have a say in foreign policy that any country makes that would allow them to make a decision that would allow them to move unilaterally against another nation in the world.. Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:
All so frustrating. I'm graduating this June, do you know anyone in the Canadian film industry that's hiring?

I was looking at the poll results and it looks like Walt Brown might be the Nader of '04! Even tho most votes go to Kerry, then Bush

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Its Amazing - however right now are predominantly North and South American hours, whereas later in (my) night Europeans will start to log on and will vote, probably, en masse for Kerry.

To bad the whole world couldn't vote in the American election, I mean we should be able to give that Bush's foreign policy seems to be affecting the world and not just Americans.. Just think, if the world could vote that would make Bush nothing but a footnote... He would be slaughtered in the election. To bad what is right never seems to happen.. *Sigh* :?
I understand what you're saying, but if the rest of the world voted in our elections it would be a tacit concete that the US does indeed rule the world. No matter what goods we produce, if we become to hard to deal with the rest of the world will go elsewhere. You can see some of the rhetoric, 'where else in the world can you yadda yadda,' there is a blind spot to the notion that other nations offer many of the same things we do and aren't such a f'n hassle. When that happens, we'll implode since we're built on sucking on the marrow.

We need to acknowledge that we live in a world community and we can only get away with pissing in peoples yards for so long...

Well perhaps the other main powers in the world should have a say in foreign policy that any country makes that would allow them to make a decision that would allow them to move unilaterally against another nation in the world.. Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:
All so frustrating. I'm graduating this June, do you know anyone in the Canadian film industry that's hiring?

If you're in the film industry you're not going to find a better place then the USA... The Americans do know how to make a movie, but if the FCC keeps going the way it is, you'll all be arrested for any thing they don't like. Hard call.

HA! I just broke the Bush v. Kerry tie!


George Bush (Republican)
40% [ 25 ]
John Kerry (Democratic)
39% [ 24 ]
Ralph Nader (Independant)
3% [ 2 ]
David Cobb (Green)
3% [ 2 ]
Walt Brown (Socialist)
13% [ 8 ]

Total Votes : 61

Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

When have the Americans decided that the U.N. security council is irrelavent?

Its Amazing - however right now are predominantly North and South American hours, whereas later in (my) night Europeans will start to log on and will vote, probably, en masse for Kerry.

Not really. They most likely will vote for the correct people - Ralph Nader or Walt Brown. :)

Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

When have the Americans decided that the U.N. security council is irrelavent?

When they decide to move unilaterally against nations without security council approval because they know it will get VETO'd.. or.. when they say it 100 times a day on American news when they interview American politicians..

Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

When have the Americans decided that the U.N. security council is irrelavent?

When they decide to move unilaterally against nations without security council approval because they know it will get VETO'd.. or.. when they say it 100 times a day on American news when they interview American politicians..

Oh. We sure have been busy. Come on Steph. You know "Americans" isn't the same as "the American politicians". "Americans" is not the same as 'the American media". Using a term for millions of people as a descriptor for a powerful group of morons who screw up alot is just insulting.

Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

When have the Americans decided that the U.N. security council is irrelavent?

When they decide to move unilaterally against nations without security council approval because they know it will get VETO'd.. or.. when they say it 100 times a day on American news when they interview American politicians..

Oh. We sure have been busy. Come on Steph. You know "Americans" isn't the same as "the American politicians". "Americans" is not the same as 'the American media". Using a term for millions of people as a descriptor for a powerful group of morons who screw up alot is just insulting.

Oh, my bad.. I didn't mean it that way.. yes, I meant the current American administration. Sorry about that.. When I say "Americans" that is usually what I mean 99.9% of the time.

Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

When have the Americans decided that the U.N. security council is irrelavent?

When they decide to move unilaterally against nations without security council approval because they know it will get VETO'd.. or.. when they say it 100 times a day on American news when they interview American politicians..

Oh. We sure have been busy. Come on Steph. You know "Americans" isn't the same as "the American politicians". "Americans" is not the same as 'the American media". Using a term for millions of people as a descriptor for a powerful group of morons who screw up alot is just insulting.

Oh, my bad.. I didn't mean it that way.. yes, I meant the current American administration. Sorry about that.. When I say "Americans" that is usually what I mean 99.9% of the time.

Apology accepted. :D Could you maybe start saying, 'the American Government' or something along those lines? I know when I refer to the Canadian political structure, I say 'the Canadian Government'. I could even change it to Canadienne if you ask nicely. :wink:

Oh right, we do it's called the UN security council.. but the Americans have decided they're irrelevant.. unless they need their help that is.. :roll:

When have the Americans decided that the U.N. security council is irrelavent?

When they decide to move unilaterally against nations without security council approval because they know it will get VETO'd.. or.. when they say it 100 times a day on American news when they interview American politicians..

Oh. We sure have been busy. Come on Steph. You know "Americans" isn't the same as "the American politicians". "Americans" is not the same as 'the American media". Using a term for millions of people as a descriptor for a powerful group of morons who screw up alot is just insulting.

Oh, my bad.. I didn't mean it that way.. yes, I meant the current American administration. Sorry about that.. When I say "Americans" that is usually what I mean 99.9% of the time.

Apology accepted. :D Could you maybe start saying, 'the American Government' or something along those lines? I know when I refer to the Canadian political structure, I say 'the Canadian Government'. I could even change it to Canadienne if you ask nicely. :wink:

Well............... that's three words.. and Americans is only one.. but since you just reached over 1700 posts with only 50% spam.. I'll try just for you. However, in the future if you see me say "Americans" please just assume that's what I mean, unless stated otherwise.. I love a lot of American people.. I have many, many friends south of the border.. I just don't like them eviiiil neo-cons ;)

Well............... that's three words.. and Americans is only one.. but since you just reached over 1700 posts with only 50% spam.. I'll try just for you. However, in the future if you see me say "Americans" please just assume that's what I mean, unless stated otherwise.. I love a lot of American people.. I have many, many friends south of the border.. I just don't like them eviiiil neo-cons ;)

:lol: OK. W'ell both work at it.

Did anyone read those Boondox comics with the comercials of:

"When it comes to the Bush presidency, isn't almost good enough"

That about sums up what he has going for him. :lol:

Did anyone read those Boondox comics with the comercials of:

"When it comes to the Bush presidency, isn't almost good enough"

That about sums up what he has going for him. :lol:

Those are pretty funny. :lol:

I vote for myself. None of the other candidates believe in what I believe in, and neither do any of you! :P

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