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I found out today that there are just 6 conditions to join to National Front-


1. You must be over 14 years of age
2. You must be of white parentage
3. Your spouse or partner must also be white.
4. No Homosexuals, male or female are allowed as members.
5. You must not be an illegal drug user.
6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost.


:D I only fulfil one and two.

How about you?

I'd fit 1-4.

When I say i fit 4, I mean in the sense that I'm not personally gay. I've got no problem with gay people, unless they piss me off. (which puts them on par with everyone else :wink: )

One and two. I screwed up.

One, two, and three.

Actually, I could possibly claim to be three. I'm unattached, but my last boyfriend was mixed-race. HAHA. I'm a race-traitor, get me.

One, two, and three.

Actually, I could possibly claim to be three. I'm unattached, but my last boyfriend was mixed-race. HAHA. I'm a race-traitor, get me.

My girlfriend is an amalgamation of different races. They'd be up in arms about her.

Sounds like the South has a great influence in Britain....*points to 2, 3, and 4*

One to three and a bit.

There's another dream shattered, then.

Sounds like the South has a great influence in Britain....*points to 2, 3, and 4*

Enh. Racism and homophobia weren't patented by the South, and they're certainly not exclusive to it; there's plenty of both in the rest of the USA, and across the world. Characterising all Southerners as racist homophobes doesn't help anyone.

1. You must be over 14 years of age
check
2. You must be of white parentage
Depends. Just parents (ie not grand-parents etc.)? does Jewish count as white?
3. Your spouse or partner must also be white.
Well, since a few months ago. Check
4. No Homosexuals, male or female are allowed as members.
Check
5. You must not be an illegal drug user.
*cough* (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140342&highlight=)
6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost.

Ummm......No

2. You must be of white parentage

I'm sure there have been mixed-race members in the past: I recall that about ten years ago there was one half-asian fellow in the National Front who was being paraded around claiming that he was an abomination - his white heritage had been sullied - and that such cross-breeding as produced him should not be allowed. Such insanity speaks for itself.

2. You must be of white parentage
Depends. Just parents (ie not grand-parents etc.)? does Jewish count as white?


Lol, no, thats the worse, you Yiddish scumbag :P

This is hilarious-
http://www.nfse.co.uk/merchandise.htm

I'm seriously considering ordering some of that for comedy value.
Particularly- Homosexuality Equals Aids. The Queer Plague.


And the 'Enoch Was Right' badge. If it said 'Enoch Woz Right' it'd have in in a second.

http://www.nfse.co.uk/NF.GIF

I can't believe they actually put that on thier own website... I thought it was satire...

http://www.nfse.co.uk/englandduvet_new.jpghttp://www.nfse.co.uk/duvet.jpg Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary?

I fill all six, yet I'd never dream of joining. The National Front have soiled the image of true nationalists who, contrary to popular belief, are neither racist nor homophobic. They have a right to speak their mind, but they really are utter b******s.

Speaking of the NF, did anyone see the article about them in the news the other week? They were outside the Finnsbury Park Mosque in London, burning pictures of Osama Bin Laden, in response to the group of immigrants burning the Union Flag outside it a few weeks earlier. I couldn't help laughing when I read it.

Disturbing, yes; scary, no.

Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary?

"How can you lie back and think of England..."

http://www.nfse.co.uk/englandduvet_new.jpghttp://www.nfse.co.uk/duvet.jpg Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary?

The one on the right doesn't seem so bad. Seems more like a novelty thing than being overly patriotic. At the store that I work at, we sell American everything, from dishes and bowls to candles and blankets.

Yes, I think every country has items with thier flag on it. From Argentina to Zimbabwe, something there has a flag of the nation on it.

Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary?

"How can you lie back and think of England..."

"When you don't even know who's in the team"
My god I love Billy Bragg. He's the sort of patriot I like, the kind who never ceases to criticise his country, BECAUSE he loves it, and wants it to be better. And he's not a prejudice idiots.

Another related BB lyric-
"Our neighbours shake their heads,
and take their valuables inside,
while my countrymen piss in the fountains,
to express their national pride"
from The Few, about NF football fans.

... burning the Union Flag outside it a few weeks earlier.

Single Duvet covers in both Union Jack and St George's / England design.

Hey look: the NF don't know what the flag of the UK is called... (hint: Strensall got it right)

Enh. I find flags of any type being displayed so ostentatiously to be kind of disturbing - the USA freaked me out a great deal in this respect.

Yes, I think every country has items with thier flag on it. From Argentina to Zimbabwe, something there has a flag of the nation on it.

But not all nations have groups which use their flag as a symbol of hatred of and intolerance for outsiders.

There still are things with flags on them.... :P

But that is true, Bodies Without Organs

http://www.nfse.co.uk/englandduvet_new.jpghttp://www.nfse.co.uk/duvet.jpg Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary?
Not especially, I had the one on the right, and i'm not a scary patriot. I've drifted through periods of extreme homophobia (but never racism, it's never been an issue) and now I've grown up.

I also meet all of their criteria, but I trip over on the implied #7 "Must not think NF are cretins". :wink:

Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary?
Not especially, I had the one on the right, and i'm not a scary patriot. I've drifted through periods of extreme homophobia (but never racism, it's never been an issue) and now I've grown up.


What was that Derek Jarman film with gay skinhead sex on a Union Flag called again?

Google, google, google: Ah-hah - The Last Of England

also meet all of their criteria, but I trip over on the implied #7 "Must not think NF are cretins".

Thats exactly how I see it. There are lots of implied rules, notably: "You must be a bigot", "You must not be a communist", "You must drink only beer, and never wear smart clothes", "You must listen to crap nationalist music"

Thats all I can think of. Anyone got anymore :D?

You must read Red-Tops, because we all know these "broadsheets" are dominated by the liberals. :wink:

Thats all I can think of. Anyone got anymore :D?

In my experience of people I know who have passed through and grown out of it:

"Once you catch yourself on and leave you will hate the BNP nad the NF and any other tinpot fascists with a fury which has been previously undreamt of."

Some of the most staunch anti-fascists I know are the ones who had brief flirtations with British nationalism in the past.

Must not sympathise with the BNP. *wink* *wink*

http://www.nfse.co.uk/englandduvet_new.jpghttp://www.nfse.co.uk/duvet.jpg Does anyone else find this level of patriotism scary? No.

Some of the most staunch anti-fascists I know are the ones who had brief flirtations with British nationalism in the past.

By anti-fascists, do you mean the type of people who make up the ranks o the 'United Against Fascism' (formerly the Anti-Nazi League), or do you just mean people of any other political ideology who have a profound hatred of fascism?

An elected fascist government would not work in todays world, it would have to lower our standard of living so much before it could make the country self-suffiecient that the people would elect someone else.

Get me a political party with the economic policy of the BNP and the social policy of the Lib Dems and I'll vote for them. Otherwise, I'll vote Tory.

Its a Union Flag unless it's being flown on a ship, when it is a Union Jack, which I don't think the duvet is, so the NF are wrong

I found out today that there are just 6 conditions to join to National Front-


1. You must be over 14 years of age
2. You must be of white parentage
3. Your spouse or partner must also be white.
4. No Homosexuals, male or female are allowed as members.
5. You must not be an illegal drug user.
6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost.


:D I only fulfil one and two.

How about you?

I fit number 1.

I'm not sure if I fit number 2. Some of these type of groups do not count Italians (and other Southern Europeans) as the same kind of white.

I don't fit 3.

I fit 4.

I fit 5.

I don't fit 6.

I just realised something. If you want to be in the NF you must be "6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost." Why isn't it point 1 then?

I just realised something. If you want to be in the NF you must be "6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost." Why isn't it point 1 then?

Because they're stupid idiots!

I just realised something. If you want to be in the NF you must be "6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost." Why isn't it point 1 then?
I love the irony in that. B)

Some of the most staunch anti-fascists I know are the ones who had brief flirtations with British nationalism in the past.

By anti-fascists, do you mean the type of people who make up the ranks o the 'United Against Fascism' (formerly the Anti-Nazi League), or do you just mean people of any other political ideology who have a profound hatred of fascism?

Mainly the latter: the ANL with their SWP connections were almost as exploitative and as manipulative as the NF. People who have wised up to the tricks of one tend to steer clear of the other, in my experience.


Get me a political party with the economic policy of the BNP and the social policy of the Lib Dems and I'll vote for them.

The BNP have an economic policy?

The BNP have an economic policy?
Maybe they plan to sell all the people they're expatriating plane tickets? Y'know, all the people who were born here - those people.

1. You must be over 14 years of age
2. You must be of white parentage
3. Your spouse or partner must also be white.
4. No Homosexuals, male or female are allowed as members.
5. You must not be an illegal drug user.
6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost.

I fulfil the first 5. Sadly, I am a European nationalist first, and am therefore ineligible.

The BNP have an economic policy?
Maybe they plan to sell all the people they're expatriating plane tickets? Y'know, all the people who were born here - those people.

It seems kind of fitting at this time of year to point out that if St George lived in the UK, the BNP would want to deport him...

The BNP have an economic policy?
Maybe they plan to sell all the people they're expatriating plane tickets? Y'know, all the people who were born here - those people.

Aha - here we go. I will let you make up your own minds about this:

ECONOMY - British workers first!

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign- made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well- paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.

1. You must be over 14 years of age - I was born in the 60's

2. You must be of white parentage - Yep - German/Dutch/Irish ancestry (plus some other northern european in there as well)

3. Your spouse or partner must also be white. - Single

4. No Homosexuals, male or female are allowed as members. - I'm straight

5. You must not be an illegal drug user. *ahem* (bubble bubble)

6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost. - Actually I am an English Nationalist

5. You must not be an illegal drug user. *ahem* (bubble bubble)

Do you reckon you get many Moorcock-reading, Hawkwind-listening members of the National Front?

5. You must not be an illegal drug user. *ahem* (bubble bubble)

Do you reckon you get many Moorcock-reading, Hawkwind-listening members of the National Front?

nah...anyone who reads Moorcock is far too intelligent to fall for that racist crap :)

Their economic policy doesn't sound to bad in theory, but being so protectionist would get us jumped on by the major trading alliances: We'd have a hell of a time exporting to anyone, but still be exporting stuff we can't make locally.

The BNP are very protectionist in their economics. They slate greedy capitalists as much as anything else, just the media doesn't jump on it - so not everyone knows. I'd even to go so far as to say they are socialist - at least a socialist and a nationalist are aiming for the same thing, just going totally opposite ways about it.

Their economic policy doesn't sound to bad in theory, but being so protectionist would get us jumped on by the major trading alliances: We'd have a hell of a time exporting to anyone, but still be exporting stuff we can't make locally.

The fact that Britain imports more than it exports is the reason behind why this would work, at least in the short and medium term. Whilever we're importing more than we're exporting, it would be detrimental for other countries to over-tax our trade, as we'd do the same. The BNP are in favour of leaving the EU, as what we do export rarely gets bought by EU countries - it's either the Commonwealth or Africa/Asia, so what we save in tax breaks there we lose in contribution costs.

Their agricultural/environmental policy is sound too. Quality over quantity and an end to subsidisation. Because of the economic protectionism, it would be still be cheaper for the British buyers to pay the full cost of production for British made food than import taxed foreign produce, so the farming industry wouldn't be destroyed due to the withdrawl of the subsidies. This would also free up a LOT of our "tax-dollars", shifting the cost to business rather than the populace. I'm sure they would also bring legislation in against the supermarket giants - like they say - to stop them shifting the costs to the customers. When Tesco makes £1.7 billion in a year (not sales - PROFITS!!), a law like this would not only be necessary, but totally justifiable. To put this in perspective, a school in a town near me closed because it had debts of £1.3 million.

As far as economics go I agree with them, I even like their editors sense of humour on their website, but I cannot agree with their social policies. I can deal with the rich getting richer as long as we keep the Pound, and until someone forms a non-racist, non-homophobic, anti-globalisation, pro-environment, reasonably socially-liberal nationalist party thats why I'll stay voting for the Conservatives.

Just had a thought. If there so patriotic why wouldn't they let these people in:

1. St George; patron Saint of England. Born in Turkey, and worked for the romans. That does 2 and 3.

2. Lord Admiral Nelson. Britains most famous naval hereo. Last words; kiss me hardy.

3. Jesus Christ (England being Anglican/Christian). Born in the middle East, so again doesn't satisfy 2 and 3. Britain also didn't exist at the time.

4. Wellington. Nothing on the list (?drugs), but he was an adulterer.

Any more? Just thinking at the moment....

Strange a group should call itself the national front when it is their behinds the members speak from.

Turing, Byron, Newton plus a lot of others.

But then again, I hardly think the NF like them/understand them.

1. You must be over 14 years of age
2. You must be of white parentage
3. Your spouse or partner must also be white.
4. No Homosexuals, male or female are allowed as members.
5. You must not be an illegal drug user.
6. You must be a British Nationalist first and foremost.

I fulfil the first 5. Sadly, I am a European nationalist first, and am therefore ineligible.

It's not possible to be a European Nationalist. You can be Nationalist and European, but Europe isn't a Nation.
My favorite satirical anti-nazi quote comes my mate Phil.

My Empire colonised Africa and all I got was this lousy Wog.




HAHAHAHA :D

I fell at the second hurdle and couldn't be bothered to pick myself up

I fell at the second hurdle and couldn't be bothered to pick myself up

hehehe. Surely these are discrimination? You can't ban someone from a political party because of their race/ sexuality?

NF bastards! They don't have a support group website for the Midlands! How am I going to get rid of my hatred now?! And the nfse website doesn't support teh Mozilla browser properly! Damn techneological-phobic wankers! Tehy aer teh sux0rs!1!1!!!

NF bastards! They don't have a support group website for the Midlands! How am I going to get rid of my hatred now?! And the nfse website doesn't support teh Mozilla browser properly! Damn techneological-phobic wankers! Tehy aer teh sux0rs!1!1!!!

... burning the Union Flag outside it a few weeks earlier.

Single Duvet covers in both Union Jack and St George's / England design.

Hey look: the NF don't know what the flag of the UK is called... (hint: Strensall got it right)

Dude- the flag of the UK is called the Union Jack. :roll:

... burning the Union Flag outside it a few weeks earlier.

Single Duvet covers in both Union Jack and St George's / England design.

Hey look: the NF don't know what the flag of the UK is called... (hint: Strensall got it right)

Dude- the flag of the UK is called the Union Jack. :roll:
Dude- no its not. Its called the Union Flag unless it's on a ship- then it's the Union Jack. Retard.