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10 yr old cousin badly wants a cell phone

Offerman
24-04-2004, 11:38
opinionsd?
Dragons Bay
24-04-2004, 11:39
for purposes such as...
Offerman
24-04-2004, 11:42
calling the boys she likes, calling friends, text messaging, etc
Dragons Bay
24-04-2004, 11:43
calling the boys she likes, calling friends, text messaging, etc

hahahahaha. i don't know about the kid, but i myself resisted the temptation for a mobile phone until 14 or something. i guess i didn't have too many friends, so i didn't need to call them. hahahahaha.
Sidar Jabari
24-04-2004, 11:46
Well, I don't think it's a good idea. At 10 years, a mobile phone isn't that useful...
Offerman
24-04-2004, 11:54
i thiunk shes ready for one she is mature for a 10 yr old.
Sozo
24-04-2004, 11:55
bad idea. I mean hello 10 years old!!! No you do not want a 10 year old to start calling boys and all that stuff. Let them be a kid. Cell phones come at the teenager age
Lunatic Goofballs
24-04-2004, 11:56
opinionsd?

Throw her in a mud puddle. :P
Aanmericaa
24-04-2004, 11:57
Well, I don't think it's a good idea. At 10 years, a mobile phone isn't that useful...

Yeah, and in middle school people bring in Cell phones to text and play annoying tones on them.
imported_1248B
24-04-2004, 12:02
Personally, I hate cell phones. I mean, will it really kill a person if they can't communicate with someone for a few hours or days? And now I hear of a 10 year old who wants a cell phone :shock: Just so she can appear cool...
Offerman
24-04-2004, 12:03
she's a good kid though she wont use it in class.
Monkeypimp
24-04-2004, 12:20
I got a cellphone when I was 16 and turned up late from town. My parents got me a cheap one to keep tabs on me :?
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 12:23
I got a cellphone when I was 16 and turned up late from town. My parents got me a cheap one to keep tabs on me :?

Word up!
Salishe
24-04-2004, 12:23
dp
Salishe
24-04-2004, 12:24
The whole idea of children having phones is ludicrous...I mean..when I was a child my instructions were simple..I'd better not be anywhere where there wasn't a phone that my parent's couldn't reach me at..that means if I was at my friend John's place..my mother wanted to reach me at her convenience at John's house..thus ensuring that yes..I was at John's house.

If my sons wanted to go to the mall..I was going to have the mall's main #, and they had enough change to go to pay phone..in order to call me to pick them up.

In short..while I can understand while a child may WANT a cell phone, I can not fanthom one reason why a child NEEDS one..
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 12:27
The whole idea of children having phones is ludicrous...I mean..when I was a child my instructions were simple..I'd better not be anywhere where there wasn't a phone that my parent's couldn't reach me at..that means if I was at my friend John's place..my mother wanted to reach me at her convenience at John's house..thus ensuring that yes..I was at John's house.

If my sons wanted to go to the mall..I was going to have the mall's main #, and they had enough change to go to pay phone..in order to call me to pick them up.

In short..I can not fanthom one reason why a child NEEDS one..

DATS 'OW IS SAID, AII!
Imperial Forces
24-04-2004, 12:32
Kids are stupid and shouldn't be trusted with anything.
Ashtria
24-04-2004, 12:33
A 10 year old girl with a moblie phone... sorry, 'cellphone' isn't really a good idea in my opinion.

Firstly, i am assuming her parents are gonna pay for any bills, secondly, there are a lot of 'questionable' people out there with the ability to get hold of anybody's mobile phone number. A 10 year old could easily be mis-lead into ANY situation.

Also, It is incredibly likely it could get nicked if she took it to school, with or without her parent's knowledge!
Salishe
24-04-2004, 12:33
Kids are stupid and shouldn't be trusted with anything.

Now this is flamebait....and totally irrevelent to the topic posed..
Jordaxia
24-04-2004, 12:39
Complete flamebait imperial. Nothing to do with the topic.
You're wrong too.

I don't think that she should have a mobile, though it might be a good idea, just so that you can keep in contact easier.
If it is a pay-as-you-go phone, it might be good to teach the 10 year old the value of money, having to pay for their own credit. But, it could make her an easy target for thieves who see her use it on the main road.
If she is mature, then I don't see the problem of mis-using it.
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 12:40
Complete flamebait imperial. Nothing to do with the topic.
You're wrong too.

I don't think that she should have a mobile, though it might be a good idea, just so that you can keep in contact easier.
If it is a pay-as-you-go phone, it might be good to teach the 10 year old the value of money, having to pay for their own credit. But, it could make her an easy target for thieves who see her use it on the main road.
If she is mature, then I don't see the problem of mis-using it.

Whats a ten-year-old girl doing on the main road!?
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 12:41
Kids are stupid and shouldn't be trusted with anything.

DATS NOT 'OW IS SAID, AII? YA COOL IT.
Ashtria
24-04-2004, 12:45
Complete flamebait imperial. Nothing to do with the topic.
You're wrong too.

I don't think that she should have a mobile, though it might be a good idea, just so that you can keep in contact easier.
If it is a pay-as-you-go phone, it might be good to teach the 10 year old the value of money, having to pay for their own credit. But, it could make her an easy target for thieves who see her use it on the main road.
If she is mature, then I don't see the problem of mis-using it.

Whats a ten-year-old girl doing on the main road!?

Assuming she isn't physically ON the actual road, lots of ten year old children, some even YOUNGER are usually walking with their mates or on their own in the streets.

Still, the theft concept is very real!
Salishe
24-04-2004, 13:12
Complete flamebait imperial. Nothing to do with the topic.
You're wrong too.

I don't think that she should have a mobile, though it might be a good idea, just so that you can keep in contact easier.
If it is a pay-as-you-go phone, it might be good to teach the 10 year old the value of money, having to pay for their own credit. But, it could make her an easy target for thieves who see her use it on the main road.
If she is mature, then I don't see the problem of mis-using it.

Whats a ten-year-old girl doing on the main road!?

Assuming she isn't physically ON the actual road, lots of ten year old children, some even YOUNGER are usually walking with their mates or on their own in the streets.

Still, the theft concept is very real!

I don't care...a 10 yr..alone on the street?..Where is the parental oversight.. My own mother's concept was that if she couldn't see me then I'd better make it so.
Salishe
24-04-2004, 13:12
Complete flamebait imperial. Nothing to do with the topic.
You're wrong too.

I don't think that she should have a mobile, though it might be a good idea, just so that you can keep in contact easier.
If it is a pay-as-you-go phone, it might be good to teach the 10 year old the value of money, having to pay for their own credit. But, it could make her an easy target for thieves who see her use it on the main road.
If she is mature, then I don't see the problem of mis-using it.

Whats a ten-year-old girl doing on the main road!?

Assuming she isn't physically ON the actual road, lots of ten year old children, some even YOUNGER are usually walking with their mates or on their own in the streets.

Still, the theft concept is very real!

I don't care...a 10 yr..alone on the street?..Where is the parental oversight.. My own mother's concept was that if she couldn't see me then I'd better make it so.
Offerman
24-04-2004, 13:14
no duplicate posts please.
Catholic Europe
24-04-2004, 13:19
Why do Americans call them cell phones? We call them mobile phones.
Camewot
24-04-2004, 13:26
We call them GSM's


Anyway, I had a cell phone when I was 10, I got it from my parents for my birthday, it was the old cell phone my mum had!
Anyway, the only thing I did with it was SMS to my cousin couse we really are best friends and he only came one weekend every two weeks! (divorce and stuff)

Anyway, it was ALWAYS at home...
I don't see why she shouldent have one as long as she doesent use it for much currency every day :roll: :)
Jordaxia
24-04-2004, 13:32
I don't think that a 10 year old should be out in the town unsupervised, but it is naive to believe that this does not happen. This may not happen to the 10 year old question, but is it not best to be prepared, rather than to hope for the best?
Jeruselem
24-04-2004, 14:17
Kids are stupid and shouldn't be trusted with anything.

Kids are stupid ...

Tell that to your own kids first eh?
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 14:25
My parents got me a cell phone when I first got my driver's license. I think that's the optimal age to get a kid a cell phone. Granted he or she will hopefully never have to use it for the purpose you get it for them, but it's always better to know you've got a cell phone if you need to call a tow truck from the side of a country road 20 miles from nowhere.
Jordaxia
24-04-2004, 14:27
Drivers license ages change from Country to Country. Could you be a little more specific? In Britain, it's 17. By that age, usually you can afford to get one yourself. Usually.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 14:28
Drivers license ages change from Country to Country. Could you be a little more specific? In Britain, it's 17. By that age, usually you can afford to get one yourself. Usually.

16 in Massachusetts. I could have afforded to get one myself, but my parents bought it for me because they wanted to make sure I'd be okay if anything happened while I was driving.
Salishe
24-04-2004, 14:30
My parents got me a cell phone when I first got my driver's license. I think that's the optimal age to get a kid a cell phone. Granted he or she will hopefully never have to use it for the purpose you get it for them, but it's always better to know you've got a cell phone if you need to call a tow truck from the side of a country road 20 miles from nowhere.

My opinion as a parent would be why is my child is 20 miles away form home in the middle of nowhere?
Fluffywuffy
24-04-2004, 14:30
Well, I personaly don't like cell phones, the ring tones are often anoying, people talk on them in movies, etc. etc. And a mature 10 year old, while possible, is very unlikely. And what does a 10 year old have a boyfriend for?

And who cares if we Americans say 'cell phones' while the world says 'mobile phones'? We can still understand one another, its like 'color' and 'colour.'
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 14:31
My parents got me a cell phone when I first got my driver's license. I think that's the optimal age to get a kid a cell phone. Granted he or she will hopefully never have to use it for the purpose you get it for them, but it's always better to know you've got a cell phone if you need to call a tow truck from the side of a country road 20 miles from nowhere.

My opinion as a parent would be why is my child is 20 miles away form home in the middle of nowhere?

They're driving somewhere and the car breaks down. It's just an expression. They could be on some back road with no houses or anything on it, stuck until someone drives by, which might not happen. With the cell phone, they could call you, or call a tow truck, and get themselves out of that situation.
Jordaxia
24-04-2004, 14:33
I personally think 13-14 is the optimum, with 12 if the child is quite mature.
Salishe. Your point is valid, but it does happen. As I have said before. Why hope for the best, when you should be prepared.
Heres a possibility. (Rare, but possible.) A kidnap, or abduction. The child calls 999, but obviously can't talk. So, leaves it on. Eventually, the operator realises what is happening, and alerts the police. Then they are on the case before it is too late.
Padsteronia
24-04-2004, 14:37
Be serious guys, regardless of what you say, that girl is still gonna want a cellphone. Be helpful and make recommendations for phones instead of arguing if it's moral to give her one.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 14:38
Be serious guys, regardless of what you say, that girl is still gonna want a cellphone. Be helpful and make recommendations for phones instead of arguing if it's moral to give her one.

We are. Our recommendations is that a 10 year old doesn't need a cell phone, so the right phone to get her is no phone. Just because the girl wants the phone doesn't mean she should get it.
The Pyrenees
24-04-2004, 14:38
I tried to hold off for as long as possible, but it became untenable (sp?) when I was 17. I got a Rizla operators logo on my mobile :D
Salishe
24-04-2004, 14:44
I personally think 13-14 is the optimum, with 12 if the child is quite mature.
Salishe. Your point is valid, but it does happen. As I have said before. Why hope for the best, when you should be prepared.
Heres a possibility. (Rare, but possible.) A kidnap, or abduction. The child calls 999, but obviously can't talk. So, leaves it on. Eventually, the operator realises what is happening, and alerts the police. Then they are on the case before it is too late.

That is by far not the rule..and oh so rare...as I said..my child better be anywhere where I can reach him/her at my convenience..not the other way around...that means...my house in the morning..school...then home chores...then homework..a couple hours of tv..then bed...when they got old enough...15 they went to work...shucking corn in my neighbor's farm during the summer breaks....at age 16 they got jobs elsewhere..so there was never a time when I couldn't reach them at my convenience.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 14:47
I personally think 13-14 is the optimum, with 12 if the child is quite mature.
Salishe. Your point is valid, but it does happen. As I have said before. Why hope for the best, when you should be prepared.
Heres a possibility. (Rare, but possible.) A kidnap, or abduction. The child calls 999, but obviously can't talk. So, leaves it on. Eventually, the operator realises what is happening, and alerts the police. Then they are on the case before it is too late.

That is by far not the rule..and oh so rare...as I said..my child better be anywhere where I can reach him/her at my convenience..not the other way around...that means...my house in the morning..school...then home chores...then homework..a couple hours of tv..then bed...when they got old enough...15 they went to work...shucking corn in my neighbor's farm during the summer breaks....at age 16 they got jobs elsewhere..so there was never a time when I couldn't reach them at my convenience.

What about if they're driving to their job and they get into a car accident?
Salishe
24-04-2004, 14:52
I personally think 13-14 is the optimum, with 12 if the child is quite mature.
Salishe. Your point is valid, but it does happen. As I have said before. Why hope for the best, when you should be prepared.
Heres a possibility. (Rare, but possible.) A kidnap, or abduction. The child calls 999, but obviously can't talk. So, leaves it on. Eventually, the operator realises what is happening, and alerts the police. Then they are on the case before it is too late.

That is by far not the rule..and oh so rare...as I said..my child better be anywhere where I can reach him/her at my convenience..not the other way around...that means...my house in the morning..school...then home chores...then homework..a couple hours of tv..then bed...when they got old enough...15 they went to work...shucking corn in my neighbor's farm during the summer breaks....at age 16 they got jobs elsewhere..so there was never a time when I couldn't reach them at my convenience.

What about if they're driving to their job and they get into a car accident?

then the cop that takes down their information will inform me..or the tow truck driver that takes away the car can be asked to relay a message..the ambulance that shows up..or if the car wreck occurs in the city...like mine did when I was 16..I simply walked across the street...knocked on the first door I could..asked the elderly lady inside if I could use her phone to call my parents because I'd just been in a wreck, she graciously allowed me..my mother came and picked me up.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 14:54
I personally think 13-14 is the optimum, with 12 if the child is quite mature.
Salishe. Your point is valid, but it does happen. As I have said before. Why hope for the best, when you should be prepared.
Heres a possibility. (Rare, but possible.) A kidnap, or abduction. The child calls 999, but obviously can't talk. So, leaves it on. Eventually, the operator realises what is happening, and alerts the police. Then they are on the case before it is too late.

That is by far not the rule..and oh so rare...as I said..my child better be anywhere where I can reach him/her at my convenience..not the other way around...that means...my house in the morning..school...then home chores...then homework..a couple hours of tv..then bed...when they got old enough...15 they went to work...shucking corn in my neighbor's farm during the summer breaks....at age 16 they got jobs elsewhere..so there was never a time when I couldn't reach them at my convenience.

What about if they're driving to their job and they get into a car accident?

then the cop that takes down their information will inform me..or the tow truck driver that takes away the car can be asked to relay a message..the ambulance that shows up..or if the car wreck occurs in the city...like mine did when I was 16..I simply walked across the street...knocked on the first door I could..asked the elderly lady inside if I could use her phone to call my parents because I'd just been in a wreck, she graciously allowed me..my mother came and picked me up.

Right, but what if they get into car trouble out in the country, where there aren't houses around to go and ask to use a phone, and the likelihood of anyone finding out are minimal. When I was 17, my car broke down on a back road, and I had to walk about 5 miles to the nearest house to use the phone (because my phone was broken too, ironically).
The Great Leveller
24-04-2004, 14:57
Does a 10 year old need a mobile phone? In a word, no. Unless you get a pay as you go one, and she can pay for it with her pocket money.

I reckon I have the best mobile phone. I got it when I was 16, second hand, so I could have tabs on me. However, now the battery is f*cked, which means I cannot have a conversation longer than 2 mins. I just use it as a phone book, it is useless for anything else. Unless it is plugged in when I'm using it (which kinda defeats the purpose of it).
Salishe
24-04-2004, 14:59
I personally think 13-14 is the optimum, with 12 if the child is quite mature.
Salishe. Your point is valid, but it does happen. As I have said before. Why hope for the best, when you should be prepared.
Heres a possibility. (Rare, but possible.) A kidnap, or abduction. The child calls 999, but obviously can't talk. So, leaves it on. Eventually, the operator realises what is happening, and alerts the police. Then they are on the case before it is too late.

That is by far not the rule..and oh so rare...as I said..my child better be anywhere where I can reach him/her at my convenience..not the other way around...that means...my house in the morning..school...then home chores...then homework..a couple hours of tv..then bed...when they got old enough...15 they went to work...shucking corn in my neighbor's farm during the summer breaks....at age 16 they got jobs elsewhere..so there was never a time when I couldn't reach them at my convenience.

What about if they're driving to their job and they get into a car accident?

then the cop that takes down their information will inform me..or the tow truck driver that takes away the car can be asked to relay a message..the ambulance that shows up..or if the car wreck occurs in the city...like mine did when I was 16..I simply walked across the street...knocked on the first door I could..asked the elderly lady inside if I could use her phone to call my parents because I'd just been in a wreck, she graciously allowed me..my mother came and picked me up.

Right, but what if they get into car trouble out in the country, where there aren't houses around to go and ask to use a phone, and the likelihood of anyone finding out are minimal. When I was 17, my car broke down on a back road, and I had to walk about 5 miles to the nearest house to use the phone (because my phone was broken too, ironically).

One must balance out all likelihood..and your case is admittedly the exception, not the rule...most kids I see nowawadays with phones are b.s.ing to a friend who might be on the other side of a mall or talking bout a girl the guy is scamming..etc...not for the intended use of the phone.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 15:02
One must balance out all likelihood..and your case is admittedly the exception, not the rule...most kids I see nowawadays with phones are b.s.ing to a friend who might be on the other side of a mall or talking bout a girl the guy is scamming..etc...not for the intended use of the phone.

I agree. I got my phone in case anything ever happened while I was out and I needed to get a hold of someone in an emergency. I've only ever had to use it for its original intent once, but it's always better to have it in case of that emergency and deal with the BS, than not have it when that emergency arises, don't you think? Be prepared for the worst.
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 16:17
Why do Americans call them cell phones? We call them mobile phones.

And we are?


(Please don't say dogs :oops: )
The Great Leveller
24-04-2004, 16:20
Why do Americans call them cell phones? We call them mobile phones.

And we are?


(Please don't say dogs :oops: )

The British.

I think they are called Cell Phone because of the way they transmit/recieve signals. You'd have to look it up on the internet, I was hungover for this Physics lesson.
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 16:58
Why do Americans call them cell phones? We call them mobile phones.

And we are?


(Please don't say dogs :oops: )

The British.

I think they are called Cell Phone because of the way they transmit/recieve signals. You'd have to look it up on the internet, I was hungover for this Physics lesson.

Right. Does anyone remember The Mighty Fan?
The Great Leveller
24-04-2004, 17:03
Right. Does anyone remember The Mighty Fan?

The one who advertise something on every page + Sent cc telegrams to everyone?

Why?
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 17:08
Right. Does anyone remember The Mighty Fan?

The one who advertise something on every page + Sent cc telegrams to everyone?

Why?

Was it man or machine? It worked fast and efficient. I didn't think it was advertising anything, though. It just rambled on about nothing and it kinda freaked me out...
The Great Leveller
24-04-2004, 17:10
Was it man or machine? It worked fast and efficient. I didn't think it was advertising anything, though. It just rambled on about nothing and it kinda freaked me out...

Man using a program. It was advertising something, but I didn't bother remembering. Why are you asking though?
Mutant Dogs
24-04-2004, 17:12
Was it man or machine? It worked fast and efficient. I didn't think it was advertising anything, though. It just rambled on about nothing and it kinda freaked me out...

Man using a program. It was advertising something, but I didn't bother remembering. Why are you asking though?

:shock:
The Great Leveller
24-04-2004, 17:16
How Cell phones work (http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone1.htm)

Also explains why they are called cell phones.
Offerman
25-04-2004, 10:18
tonight at lasertag there was a 8 yr old talkingon his cellphone.
Soviet Democracy
25-04-2004, 10:20
I am 17 and do not feel I need a cell phone! The only reason why I would want one would be so my girlfriend can call me whenever she wants to (like at 4am in the morning, if she needed to talk).

10 year olds with cell phones? *sigh*
Offerman
25-04-2004, 10:37
now my 8 yr old cousinwants one too.
Ashtria
25-04-2004, 12:30
8 YEAR OLD?!?!?!? :roll:

I thought 10 was a little too youg, but 8!!!!???

Why can't they just be happy with children's toys? Then again, you could always get him/her a toy mobile phone. Its a lot cheaper
Badkids
26-04-2004, 09:08
Im 11 and I got my own cell so chill.
Coors Light
26-04-2004, 09:28
no way i would give her one.

whats wrong with the phone at her house? how come she cant use the one thats there?
Incertonia
26-04-2004, 09:32
I got to agree with CL--no ten year old anywhere needs a freaking cell phone. Personally, I don't think anyone who doesn't have a job and can't pay for it him or herself ought to have one, and that would remove about 95% of the teenagers rolling around with one today.
Offerman
26-04-2004, 09:33
nothig wreong with the phone at her house. She wants the cell for stastus with friends and for convbenience.
Sdaeriji
26-04-2004, 09:33
If she's just going to use it as a popularity piece, then she doesn't need it.
BackwoodsSquatches
26-04-2004, 09:38
A girl that age would rack up such a huge bill, that it would take Bill Gates to pay it off.
Coors Light
26-04-2004, 09:38
nothig wreong with the phone at her house. She wants the cell for stastus with friends and for convbenience.
I would like a H2 on Spinners with 5 DVD players in it for status with my friends, I doubt I am going to get that.
Sdaeriji
26-04-2004, 09:39
A girl that age would rack up such a huge bill, that it would take Bill Gates to pay it off.

That reminds me, did anyone see the Simpsons tonight?
Ashtria
02-05-2004, 16:07
Im 11 and I got my own cell so chill.

You got your own cell? What was your crime? :D