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Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 06:31
I hope I know the answer to this question already, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

About what percentage of the Muslim world actually condemns terrorism? Is it the majority? A small part? All but the jihads? or what?
24-04-2004, 06:34
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...
Haven14
24-04-2004, 06:35
I would say the majority condem terrorism because if they were all for terrorism we would be up a creak without a paddle. The problem is a minority that supresses the majority by force in the name of allah and kills anyone in the way. I could be wrong but thats my opinion.
24-04-2004, 06:35
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist
24-04-2004, 06:36
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Well you're stupid.
HotRodia
24-04-2004, 06:36
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Wow! You are really good at math! Can you prove that 1=2 as well?
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 06:37
About the same percentage as Christians who condemn organizations like the KKK. You don't hear about them, though, because they don't do anything to get themselves in the news. It seems like all Muslims are terrorists because they're the only ones we see. We don't see the regular Muhammeds out there who don't do anything extraordinary, who don't hate the US, and who condemn terrorism.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 06:38
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...
Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Wow, you're full of intelligent statements tonight, huh?
Tumaniaa
24-04-2004, 06:39
I hope I know the answer to this question already, but I'm going to ask it anyway.

About what percentage of the Muslim world actually condemns terrorism? Is it the majority? A small part? All but the jihads? or what?

Oh...another one of your "innocent questions".

The jihad thing is about as effective in uniting muslims in war as the christian crusade against sex... (in other words: it doesn't work)

ALL muslim countries condemn terrorism. And when some small organization declares a jihad, all those "evil" muslim countries don't rally around them.

Read some history...Fool.
24-04-2004, 06:40
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...
Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Wow, you're full of intelligent statements tonight, huh?


:roll:


Only Liberals disagree with what I said.
24-04-2004, 06:42
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...
Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Wow, you're full of intelligent statements tonight, huh?


:roll:


Only Liberals disagree with what I said.

Only people with brains disagree with what you say.
Enn
24-04-2004, 06:43
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...
Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Wow, you're full of intelligent statements tonight, huh?


:roll:


Only Liberals disagree with what I said.
And Arab Muslims. And non-Arab Muslims. And non-Muslim Arabs. And a large number of people who are neither Arab nor Muslim.
HotRodia
24-04-2004, 06:44
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...
Arab Muslim = Terrorist

Wow, you're full of intelligent statements tonight, huh?


:roll:


Only Liberals disagree with what I said.

OK. Enough trolling. I played with you at first, but you don't seem to be able to play the game at the level I enjoy.
Tumaniaa
24-04-2004, 06:44
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist

That explains why you guys mow down civilians...
Nianacio
24-04-2004, 06:49
This (http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php) page has as interesting list of Muslim "condemnations of the 9/11 terrorist attacks".
That explains why you guys mow down civilians...:?
24-04-2004, 06:54
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist

That explains why you guys mow down civilians...

What do you mean by that Tumaniaa?
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 06:54
This (http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php) page has as interesting list of Muslim "condemnations of the 9/11 terrorist attacks".
That explains why you guys mow down civilians...:?Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?
24-04-2004, 06:55
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist


And African-American=Gangster, and Republican=Jerk and Democrat=Tree-Hugging Hippie. Y'see how stereotypes screw everyone over?
Nianacio
24-04-2004, 06:57
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtml
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 06:59
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 07:00
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?
Cannot think of a name
24-04-2004, 07:00
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?
Do you think you brought enough line for this fishing trip?
HotRodia
24-04-2004, 07:01
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?

Are they paying us with virgins? :wink:
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 07:01
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?

Are they paying us with virgins? :wink:

Ever see the Robin Williams stand up when he starts going off on how that's a misconception?
Tumaniaa
24-04-2004, 07:02
From what I understand, most of the muslim world condmns terrorrism. I know that all the Muslims that I know hate violence. Then again, I know very odd people, so I'm rather curious as to the reality of the situation too...



Arab Muslim = Terrorist

That explains why you guys mow down civilians...

What do you mean by that Tumaniaa?

Well, if an arab muslim = terrorist, then I guess LDG is fine with all those children that get in the way of rockets/bullets/tanks/bombs ...After all, they are arab muslims.
24-04-2004, 07:02
Oh, okay.
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:02
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?That would depend on who calls it, and whether or not we would be targetting civillians.
HotRodia
24-04-2004, 07:03
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?

Are they paying us with virgins? :wink:

Ever see the Robin Williams stand up when he starts going off on how that's a misconception?

Nah. I'd bet its pretty good though.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 07:03
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?That would depend on who calls it, and whether or not we would be targetting civillians.

The leader of your church, and yes, you'd be targetting everyone who wasn't Mormon.
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:04
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?That would depend on who calls it, and whether or not we would be targetting civillians.

The leader of your church, and yes, you'd be targetting everyone who wasn't Mormon.Umm... yeah, I would have to refuse, because I know my religion would never order such a thing.
24-04-2004, 07:05
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?

Is this the sort of Holy Crusade where we string people up by their entrails?
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 07:05
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?That would depend on who calls it, and whether or not we would be targetting civillians.

The leader of your church, and yes, you'd be targetting everyone who wasn't Mormon.Umm... yeah, I would have to refuse, because I know my religion would never order such a thing.

Well, suspension of reality a little bit here. Say it wasn't the leader of your church per se, but a high ranking member of the clergy, and say that it wouldn't be unrealistic of him to make such a proclamation. Would you do it?
Tumaniaa
24-04-2004, 07:06
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

:roll: You know how many jihads organizations like hezbollah declared in the 80's?
How effective were those? less than 1/5th of a % of ONE nation even responded to those...

This is stupid...it's like asking how many % of people would respond to David Koresh's call for a crusade...
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:08
Well, suspension of reality a little bit here. Say it wasn't the leader of your church per se, but a high ranking member of the clergy, and say that it wouldn't be unrealistic of him to make such a proclamation. Would you do it?Given that, it would depend. I would have to pray for an answer.

But to continue on your hypothetical and rediculous scenario... if God suddenly ordered me to kill civillians, I would do as the Lord commanded.

But, I know my father would never command me to do such a thing, and allow me to follow through.
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:09
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

:roll: You know how many jihads organizations like hezbollah declared in the 80's?
How effective were those? less than 1/5th of a % of ONE nation even responded to those...

This is stupid...it's like asking how many % of people would respond to David Koresh's call for a crusade...Thanks for answering my question... you didn't have to treat me like an idiot though
24-04-2004, 07:12
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

How likely would you answer the call for a Holy Crusade?That would depend on who calls it, and whether or not we would be targetting civillians.

The leader of your church, and yes, you'd be targetting everyone who wasn't Mormon.Umm... yeah, I would have to refuse, because I know my religion would never order such a thing.

Well, suspension of reality a little bit here. Say it wasn't the leader of your church per se, but a high ranking member of the clergy, and say that it wouldn't be unrealistic of him to make such a proclamation. Would you do it?

Does he have good reasons to? And is there a reasonable chance that the crusade would be successful?

On a side note, I've always wondered how far out these quotings could get...
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 07:12
Well, suspension of reality a little bit here. Say it wasn't the leader of your church per se, but a high ranking member of the clergy, and say that it wouldn't be unrealistic of him to make such a proclamation. Would you do it?Given that, it would depend. I would have to pray for an answer.

But to continue on your hypothetical and rediculous scenario... if God suddenly ordered me to kill civillians, I would do as the Lord commanded.

But, I know my father would never command me to do such a thing, and allow me to follow through.

You suck at this. My point was going to be that the average Muslim doesn't answer the call for jihad anymore than the average Christian would answer the call for a Holy Crusade, because they have moral qualms about killing innocent people in the name of religion, just like anyone would. Most Muslims, like most Christians, realize that if God is as caring and compassionate as they've been taught He is, then He wouldn't want his innocent children slaughtered in his name.
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:14
Well, suspension of reality a little bit here. Say it wasn't the leader of your church per se, but a high ranking member of the clergy, and say that it wouldn't be unrealistic of him to make such a proclamation. Would you do it?Given that, it would depend. I would have to pray for an answer.

But to continue on your hypothetical and rediculous scenario... if God suddenly ordered me to kill civillians, I would do as the Lord commanded.

But, I know my father would never command me to do such a thing, and allow me to follow through.

You suck at this. My point was going to be that the average Muslim doesn't answer the call for jihad anymore than the average Christian would answer the call for a Holy Crusade, because they have moral qualms about killing innocent people in the name of religion, just like anyone would. Most Muslims, like most Christians, realize that if God is as caring and compassionate as they've been taught He is, then He wouldn't want his innocent children slaughtered in his name.OK... I suck at this?

Oh well... I think I get what you're trying to say.
Nianacio
24-04-2004, 07:16
What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?No clue, sorry. All I've found is articles saying there's distrust about the war on terror.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 07:18
Well, suspension of reality a little bit here. Say it wasn't the leader of your church per se, but a high ranking member of the clergy, and say that it wouldn't be unrealistic of him to make such a proclamation. Would you do it?Given that, it would depend. I would have to pray for an answer.

But to continue on your hypothetical and rediculous scenario... if God suddenly ordered me to kill civillians, I would do as the Lord commanded.

But, I know my father would never command me to do such a thing, and allow me to follow through.

You suck at this. My point was going to be that the average Muslim doesn't answer the call for jihad anymore than the average Christian would answer the call for a Holy Crusade, because they have moral qualms about killing innocent people in the name of religion, just like anyone would. Most Muslims, like most Christians, realize that if God is as caring and compassionate as they've been taught He is, then He wouldn't want his innocent children slaughtered in his name.OK... I suck at this?

Oh well... I think I get what you're trying to say.

You suck at playing hypothetical. I didn't mean it as an insult. I was trying to get at my point by making a hypothetical situation for you to consider. For such an established RPer, I find that surprising. You can't suspend disbelief. But at least you understand my point.
24-04-2004, 07:18
If God came to me in a dream and told me to make a bomb, tie it to my chest, and blow myself up along with innocent civilians, I would do it.

No, wait, no I wouldn't. That fucking insane.
Nianacio
24-04-2004, 07:19
"A more encouraging finding, however, is that a large majority disapproved of the attacks. Overall, 67% thought they were not "morally justifiable", and only 15% thought they were."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,661807,00.html
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:23
"A more encouraging finding, however, is that a large majority disapproved of the attacks. Overall, 67% thought they were not "morally justifiable", and only 15% thought they were."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,661807,00.htmlare these just related to September 11th, or all terrorism in general?
Nianacio
24-04-2004, 07:24
are these just related to September 11th, or all terrorism in general?Just September 11th; that's all I could find.
Logging off...
Tactical Grace
24-04-2004, 19:21
Living Dead Girl, please keep the racist trolling to a minimum. Thank you.

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Tumaniaa
24-04-2004, 19:32
Well... we know American Muslims dissapprove... but what about the Islamic states?The top section is about leaders. One link with a handful of official condemnations:
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article18.shtmlOK then, so now I know the leaders are sane.

What about the people? What percentage are likely to go on a Jihad if provoked?

:roll: You know how many jihads organizations like hezbollah declared in the 80's?
How effective were those? less than 1/5th of a % of ONE nation even responded to those...

This is stupid...it's like asking how many % of people would respond to David Koresh's call for a crusade...Thanks for answering my question... you didn't have to treat me like an idiot though

One tends to do that when someone asks idiotic questions...
Nianacio
24-04-2004, 20:55
One tends to do that when someone asks idiotic questions...How is it an idiotic question?