NationStates Jolt Archive

Has the UN failed the world? Give me some reasons why the US should stay in this organization. Why should my tax dollars help these people? Why should 50,000 of our troops be the UN Mission in Korea that began because of France?

UN Failures in my mind

The U.N. failed in Somalia.

The U.N. failed in Bosnia.

The U.N. failed in Israel.

The U.N. failed in Columbia.

The U. N. failed in Iraq.

The U. N. did nothing in Checnya

The U.N voted that Zionism was Racism, yes you heard me, they voted that being a Jew was racist.

United States loses its seat on the U.N. Commission on Human Rights to SUDAN?

U.N. takes over in East Timor, and then drops the ball leading to further violence and anarchy

U.N. ignores more human rights abuses. This time in Iran.

They impede or war in Iraq, claiming diplomacy and inspections are the only answer. At the same time, they refuse to discuss the North Korea's brazen moves.

In Korea the 50,000 U.S troops sationed there are officially part of the UN Force There thats been there since Korea.

They cost American Lives in Korea and Vietnam, 100,000 U.S Casualties in Korea alone.

Where was the U.N. during the massacre in Rwanda in 1994? 800,000 people dead.

They've tried to apease dictators, they tried it with Saddam and NK, apeasing those people doesn't work. Look at Hitler.

U.N. fails to condemn slavery in Sudan.

Messed Up in Hati too

As reported by the General Accounting Office, the U.S. currently pays an estimated 25 percent of the costs associated with U.N. operations.

Between 1992 and 1995, the U.S. contributed approximately $1.3 billion for U.N. missions in Haiti, the former Yugoslavia, Rwanda and Somalia. At the same time, the United States spent $5.3 billion providing additional support to U.N.-sanctioned missions, for which it was never reimbursed. In Haiti for example, the U.S. contributed an additional $953 million to provide training and equipment to coalition members to help them establish order — a goal never really attained.


Bosina? Disaster.

The Hague? A joke!

Failed to protect hundreds of Budhist Statues in Afghanistan

Russia, France and Germany vetoed the investigation on the Oil Foor Food program? It seems like they don't want to fix the corruption.

If you concentrate on the failures of course it has failed. :roll:

it fails because countries like America only support it when it strictly follows their agenda. For the UN to work, it needs the full support of every member nation whether they think they're above the rest of the world or not.

The UN is not responsible for the selfishness and greed of humankind, especially those of political leaders.

I've never been big on the UN, they have no real power, or so it seems.

Supposedly, America's war with Iraq was illegal, but the UN did nothing to stop it. The UN has no authority without the backing of America.

I've never been big on the UN, they have no real power, or so it seems.

Supposedly, America's war with Iraq was illegal, but the UN did nothing to stop it. The UN has no authority without the backing of America.

Exactly. Like the WTO, the UN has become a First World exploiter of the Third World.

But at least it sets rules and certain constraints on the First World.

Yep, I've always thought the UN is a waste of prime Manhattan real estate.

it fails because countries like America only support it when it strictly follows their agenda. For the UN to work, it needs the full support of every member nation whether they think they're above the rest of the world or not.

Ok lets see, how does Bosnia follow our agenda? It was a European problem yet our troops are there. Face it thats not going to happen.

I agree that the UN doesn't work, the recent Iraq is proof of that. Why doesn't it work? Because like a soccer team, everyone has to go by the rules.

Oh...wait...Let's americanize that explanation for you:

Let's say you were watching "the batchelor" and that blonde hoe with the big boobs reveals that she is in fact a transvestite and tells the others that she's actually having wet dreams where they play a big part. The other blonde hoe with the big boobs gets so angry that she punches a hole in her breast-implant with her manicured nail, then the blonde hoe has ruined things for all the other blonde bimbos with the big boobs because the transvestite one never really stood a chance.
This results in much crying and running of makeup.

The UN has not failed, the US has. How is the mission in Korea because of France? Our troops have been there since the 50's, since a war that we were the major pushers behind. The UN has not failed, it just does not have enough muscle.
Why should the UN defend Israel. They're a nuclear power, have been attacked numerous times, and have proven fully capable of defending themselves. The UN failed in Somalia? Why? Because some US troops got killed when we stupidly tried to intervene? How has the UN failed in Chechnya? Are we all supposed to defend Russia from one of its provinces now?
How has the UN failed in Columbia? It's our stupid drug war that's causing the devestation. The rest of the world doesn't care about the USA's drug war. The US lost its seat on the Human Rights commission because we support governments in open defiance of the UN declaration of human rights (China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, etc.), which we haven't even ratified ourselves. I do agree, however, that the Sudan is hardly a good replacement, to understate things a bit.
The UN did not have enough muscle without the US to have success in East Timor. I think they kinda expected the US to be more a part of that. The UN is not ignoring human rights abuses in Iran, they just can't do much about it because the US is ignoring human rights abuses in Iran.
Of course they impede the war in Iraq, they wanted to let the inspectors finish their job. Still, it appears the WMD did not exist after all, because believe me, if they had found them, they would have made a pretty big deal about it, kinda the whole "Look, I told you so!." But since the war, it seems the current government has done much more talking about how evil Hussein is than about WMD.
the Korean war was a UN effort, true the US bore the brunt of it, but need I remind you how much bigger our military was than that of everyone else involved?
Vietnam was a stupid war to begin with, the UN was right to stay out of it. It was our stupid government that cost American lives, not the UN. We tried to prop up a wildly unpopular regime against popular resistance, I don't think that counts as justification. Also, Ho Chi Minh asked the US for diplomatic recognition BEFORE he asked either China or the Soviet Union.
The massacre in Rwanda happened extremely fast, I don't think the UN works fast enough to get there within 24 hours of hearing the news. That would be hard even for the US to pull off.
The UN appeases dictators? I hardly call sending thousands of weapons inspectors into a sovereign nation, with no if's and's or but's appeasement. The US certainly has no right to accuse people of appeasing dictatorsips, considering the fine relations we have or have had with so many; China (one of the worst dictatorships in the world), Saudi Arabia (also one of the worst), Cambodia (We got along fine with Pol Pot), Iran (remember, we overthrew an elected government to install the Shah), Iraq (We loved Saddam Hussein before he made us look bad by invading Kuwait), Pakistan, the list goes on.
The UN really can't do much about slavery in Sudan, since the US seems to be ignoring it. I agree that Sudan should not be on the Human Rights commission, though.
Haiti has always been messed up, many have tried to fix it, all have failed.
Of course we pay 25% of the costs, we're the richest and most powerful country in the world, remember? Of course the UN does not reimberse nations for funding it in monetary terms, it's not a business, they don't make money.
I don't know why you think the Hague is a joke. Countries that participate seem to take it seriously.
How successful do you think the UN would have been in Afghanistan without the US? Honestly, it's like a cop being only able to say "cease and desist" without any way to enforce the order.
I agree that the UN is flawed, but its better than nothing. It's just that when the most powerful, influential country in the world has a habit of ignoring/defying it, what kind of example does that set? and how effective could it be, if its primary means of enforcement isn't there for it? The UN can't stop countries from doing what they want if the US just does whatever it wants and only pays attention when conveniant.

The U.N voted that Zionism was Racism, yes you heard me, they voted that being a Jew was racist.
You are obviously quite ignorant. Being a Jew and being a Zionist are two quite different things. I am proud to be a Jew, but I am an anti-Zionist. I also know non-Jews who are Zionists. You are making no sense.

And while Zionism is not always racist, the predominent strain of it is.

Our troops have been there since the 50's, since a war that we were the major pushers behind.
I assume your a Russian Communist? (Or perhaps someone posting from North Korea?)

Our troops have been there since the 50's, since a war that we were the major pushers behind.
I assume your a Russian Communist? (Or perhaps someone posting from North Korea?)

No, I am from the US, I just didn't phrase that very well. The US was the major pusher behind the war on our side. The bulk of the UN force, and the major movement to participate at all, to save South Korea, was from the US. France, contrary to the original poster's claim, was not very much involved, other than having a couple troops over there.