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Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]

TRA, I hate Sharon as just as much as any other forward-thinking person committed to peace in the Middle East, but Sharon couldn't have possibly have said that!!

He likes to call it 'Defending the Jewish State'.

TRA, I hate Sharon as just as much as any other forward-thinking person committed to peace in the Middle East, but Sharon couldn't have possibly have said that!!


As a Israeli General he walked his troops into a Palestinian Refugee camp and shot every single man, woman and child.

If you ask me the Jews have been more than kind enough to their neighbors. Comparitively speaking of course.

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]

Where did you extract this "pearl" from? a.k.a. What source did you cull this from?

:shock:

I don't want to taint your minds with pre-chewed ideas... but just make a search with keywords "ariel sharon" and "101". that dude has a history. no wonder israel only greets neighbours with cruise missiles...

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

TRA, I hate Sharon as just as much as any other forward-thinking person committed to peace in the Middle East, but Sharon couldn't have possibly have said that!!
IE: Anyone who doesn't hate Sharon is not forward-thinking and not committed to peace in the Middle East. Nice circular logic.
Wow, Red Arrow, you're really reaching, even by your less-than-stellar standards. An unattributed (source-wise) quote purportedly from 48 years ago. Now you're just plain sad.

Where did you extract this "pearl" from? a.k.a. What source did you
cull this from?


I wouldn't want to steal Red Arrow's thunder, but, I'll inform you ahead of time. It came from his ass. It was festering there, waiting for a moment when the Israeli strategy started to work before it could emerge. I also suspect similar origins for Red Arrow himself.

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Not true... I like TRA

his topics are always fun

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]

Where did you extract this "pearl" from? a.k.a. What source did you cull this from?

:shock:

from the General of Ghost troops

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

shut up yourself you braindead bimbo and go play with your jump rope--better yet go hang yourself with it

General of Ghost-search results from Google (searching for those exact words)

I have found a bunch of mining towns, being too lazy to go farther. Link please?

Yeee...that's just creepy...

Sharon's involvement in mass executions of civilians during his military career is quite well-documented. I have even seen a Newsnight interview with a former soldier involved in those actions, who praised Sharon for his inspirational leadership, and expressed no remorse for the actions they committed.

Off-topic: no flaming, guys.

Sharon's involvement in mass executions of civilians during his military career is quite well-documented. I have even seen a Newsnight interview with a former soldier involved in those actions, who praised Sharon for his inspirational leadership, and expressed no remorse for the actions they committed.

indeed. however, it would be nice to have dead-tree confirmation of this quote.

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]Do you have a source on that, or do you want us to just take your word for it?

And yet again we see the weak minded morons who associate any ANY criticism of an ISRAELI as somehow being anti semitic....

General of Ghost-search results from Google (searching for those exact words)

I have found a bunch of mining towns, being too lazy to go farther. Link please?

LOL its a person

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]Do you have a source on that, or do you want us to just take your word for it?

Id prefer if you just took my word for it

That sounds too warped to even come straight out of Hitler's mouth.

I'm so tired of this thing called Israël. Every party should have fought a massive war decades ago, letting off all the steam, and gotten it over with.

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

This is not acceptable, attack the argument, not the person, knock it off. If you have nothing to add but personal attacks, don't add any thing at all.

Consider yourself warned.

Stephanie
Game Moderator

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]Do you have a source on that, or do you want us to just take your word for it?

Id prefer if you just took my word for it

And why on earth would we do that? :?

Id prefer if you just took my word for it
Come on, you can't honestly expect us to do that.

http://www.dailymirror.lk/inside/worldw/020405.html

I may not agree with the way Israel does things.. and I certainly don't like Sharon, but I prefer to argue the facts.

You might want to read this regarding the alleged quote

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664

According to this: http://www.geocities.com/myjoy18/arielsharon1956lie.htm , it's a hoax.

After reading Stephistan's link, I really do hope this Mariam Sobh gets herself sued for libel sometime.

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

Roarroarroar.

If someone doesn't agree with me they must be telling lies...

:roll:

Do some research before you dismiss something as propaganda.

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

Roarroarroar.

If someone doesn't agree with me they must be telling lies...

:roll:

Do some research before you dismiss something as propaganda.

Actually I already issued a warning to this person for their flaming..

However, the quote was a hoax..
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

Roarroarroar.

If someone doesn't agree with me they must be telling lies...

:roll:

Do some research before you dismiss something as propaganda.

Actually I already issued a warning to this person for their flaming..

However, the quote was a hoax..
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664

I read the links afterwards. However, it's interesting that someone(LDG) would be so quick to call it a lie without showing any evidence.

Shut Up TRA! Nobody here likes you, nobody!!! So go take your lies and propaganda to Al Jazeera!!!!!!!!!!

Roarroarroar.

If someone doesn't agree with me they must be telling lies...

:roll:

Do some research before you dismiss something as propaganda.

Actually I already issued a warning to this person for their flaming..

However, the quote was a hoax..
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664

I read the links afterwards. However, it's interesting that someone(LDG) would be so quick to call it a lie without showing any evidence.

Oh, I agree.. and even to provide proof of a hoax doesn't give any one the right to personally attack any one on this site.

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

the quote was a hoax..
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664
Thanks Steph. Saved me some work this time :wink:

Red Arrow is getting worse by the minute. I suspect he will end up quoting the Protocols...

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

Im sure they were saying things just as bad--this quote may be a hoax but the scary thing is we can all imagine Sharon saying this--thats very telling

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

Im sure they were saying things just as bad--this quote may be a hoax but the scary thing is we can all imagine Sharon saying this--thats very telling
Sorry, you can. I can't he's too clever for that.
I would prefer if you of all people did not try and speak for me (no insult intended I just think we are a long way appart politicaly).

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

Im sure they were saying things just as bad--this quote may be a hoax but the scary thing is we can all imagine Sharon saying this--thats very telling

Just because you can IMAGINE someone saying it doesn't change the fact that you started a thread based on a bullshit quote without checking it out first. So any "conclusions" you may have been trying to draw from that quote are now void.

Well done.

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

Im sure they were saying things just as bad--this quote may be a hoax but the scary thing is we can all imagine Sharon saying this--thats very telling

Just because you can IMAGINE someone saying it doesn't change the fact that you started a thread based on a bullshit quote without checking it out first. So any "conclusions" you may have been trying to draw from that quote are now void.

Well done.

Ya, but isn't that like being pretty sure there are WMD in Iraq? :P

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

Im sure they were saying things just as bad--this quote may be a hoax but the scary thing is we can all imagine Sharon saying this--thats very telling

Just because you can IMAGINE someone saying it doesn't change the fact that you started a thread based on a bullshit quote without checking it out first. So any "conclusions" you may have been trying to draw from that quote are now void.

Well done.

Ya, but isn't that like being pretty sure there are WMD in Iraq? :P

Well...I'm pretty sure he had them at one point..and I've not read the documentation that he destroyed them yet..the fact that he had those missiles which we found...the chemical shells we found...the nuclear program documentation we found buried..and the mobile labs (yes I know they were scrubbed clean so there is no clear connection but he wasn't using them for developing a baby formula)....the fact that we found 6000 chemical warfare suits in a hospital soon after entered Iraq...you see Steph...it's not that I don't believe the anti-war crowd on the WoMD issue, it's just that there are too many little things out there to totally convince me that there are not buried depots full of stuff.

This seems like every quote that I've seen that is in the new book by Woodward, or is it Bernstien?. I have a question about this quote and the ones in the book currently in print about the US administration and Iraq, which one of the two people who supposedly said these things talked to the person who has recorded the quote? Or are these authors psychic?

In all fairness I'm not sure of the quote given by TRA..but Sharon was a firebrand in his early career...he had been in charge of an elite IDF unit which does have a "checkered" history....reports of torture on Palestinian militants..and atrocities in Arab villages...but one must also take into account...he'd seen his new nation invaded in 48...surrounded by enemies on all sides.. and then Nasser leading up to the war of 56 (?)..

Do you wish to hear what Arab voices were saying bout the Jews during that time there Red Arrow?

Im sure they were saying things just as bad--this quote may be a hoax but the scary thing is we can all imagine Sharon saying this--thats very telling

Just because you can IMAGINE someone saying it doesn't change the fact that you started a thread based on a bullshit quote without checking it out first. So any "conclusions" you may have been trying to draw from that quote are now void.

Well done.

Ya, but isn't that like being pretty sure there are WMD in Iraq? :P

I don't quite follow the analogy.

In any event, we knew Saddam HAD had WMDs- after all, we still have the receipts.

Well...I'm pretty sure he had them at one point..

You know what that counts in eh Salishe? It's not war.. ;)

This seems like every quote that I've seen that is in the new book by Woodward, or is it Bernstien?. I have a question about this quote and the ones in the book currently in print about the US administration and Iraq, which one of the two people who supposedly said these things talked to the person who has recorded the quote? Or are these authors psychic?

Bushs dishonesty is beyond dispute--but if you choose to follow a known liar then go right ahead and follow him to the gates of hell itself

However, the quote was a hoax..
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664

i'd probably check sources when dealing with frontpage at least as much as when dealing with unsourced internet claims. its not what i would call objective...nor accurate - it is a david horowitz project after all.

I don't want to taint your minds with pre-chewed ideas... but just make a search with keywords "ariel sharon" and "101". that dude has a history. no wonder israel only greets neighbours with cruise missiles...

I take it you include Jordan, (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/jo.html) the neighbor with the vast majority of the border, in that generalization? Simply not true.

Israel has taken an agressive stand against aggressors.

:shock:

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]Do you have a source on that, or do you want us to just take your word for it?

Here is a source for that quote. I tried several pages of Google on General Ouze - they are all about the same caliber. http://www.islamicparty.com/commonsense/35quotes.htm

:shock:

That sounds too warped to even come straight out of Hitler's mouth.

I'm so tired of this thing called Israël. Every party should have fought a massive war decades ago, letting off all the steam, and gotten it over with.

They did. It was over in six days and TRA's guys lost. Seems they are sore losers, eh?

:shock:

http://www.dailymirror.lk/inside/worldw/020405.html "Herod and the Holocaust" By Ameen Izzadeen is an unimpeachable source? Keep spinning those tales there Talespin.

:shock:

That sounds too warped to even come straight out of Hitler's mouth.

I'm so tired of this thing called Israël. Every party should have fought a massive war decades ago, letting off all the steam, and gotten it over with.

They did. It was over in six days and TRA's guys lost. Seems they are sore losers, eh?

:shock:

arab countries arent MY guys--your confusing me with Bush and his Saudi keepers

However, the quote was a hoax..
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12664

i'd probably check sources when dealing with frontpage at least as much as when dealing with unsourced internet claims. its not what i would call objective...nor accurate - it is a david horowitz project after all.

This is a fair point, but it's not like most of the sites alleging the quote is accurate are unbiased or terribly reliable, either.

Also, http://www.geocities.com/myjoy18/arielsharon1956lie.htm also says the quote is a hoax, and while its sources could also benefit from being checked out, it certainly doesn't seem to be connected with Horowitz.

Quote by Ariel Sharon in 1956

"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll
burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The
Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the
Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the
man causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian
and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer
before killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah
in 1956). I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as
the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to
her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they
shall do."

[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze
Merham, 1956]
let me post your source for you
http://www.islam-online.net/english/News/2002-04/01/article14.shtml

i am sure islam online is a very unbiased source for information about Israel's leader.

i'd probably check sources when dealing with frontpage at least as much as when dealing with unsourced internet claims. its not what i would call objective...nor accurate - it is a david horowitz project after all.

This is a fair point, but it's not like most of the sites alleging the quote is accurate are unbiased or terribly reliable, either.

indeed. fairly safe to say it is either made up completely or falsified in some other way. which is silly, because i'm sure there are actually documented quotes from sharon that are at least almost as bad.

but as a general rule if i had an unsourced internet claim and the only site disputing it was frontpage, i would tend to go with the unsourced internet claim - i've seen enough of frontpage's 'reporting' get it wrong on things i do know the facts about.