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What's Stephistan's beef with Raysia?

Ryanania
23-04-2004, 09:25
I'm genuinely curious. Whatever caused her to hold a grudge against him, I missed it.
23-04-2004, 09:26
Maybe He's a jackass
The Atheists Reality
23-04-2004, 09:26
he posted 'all homos should burn' or something like that
imported_Jet Li
23-04-2004, 09:27
His constant baiting perhaps? Posting the same topic over and over again, in different guises?
Tactical Grace
23-04-2004, 09:28
It is not a grudge. It is more of a professional Mod interest in someone who has trolled and flamed their way into deletion. I myself would tend to keep a closer eye on repeat offenders.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Ryanania
23-04-2004, 09:29
Did he make a personal comment to her that caused her to have it out for him or what?
Tactical Grace
23-04-2004, 09:31
Did he make a personal comment to her that caused her to have it out for him or what?
No, I think it was the repeated homophobic flamebaiting and ignoring of warnings.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 09:32
I might have insulted Steph personally once or twice, said something I shouldn't have in the heat of rage another time, and trolled once or twice... it's enough to get a nation deleted :)

As to why my more recent thread was just locked, I have no idea... my "native Americans" thread was being consistently hijacked, and I was just trying to move the discussion elsewhere, but I guess steph just feels my thread should be just another theists vs. atheists thread
23-04-2004, 10:17
I'm genuinely curious. Whatever caused her to hold a grudge against him, I missed it.


Because he is a Conservative and she is a Liberal, thats why.
Utopio
23-04-2004, 10:34
Because he is a Conservative and she is a Liberal, thats why.

Bollocks.

Raysia consistantly trolls, creating endless threads usually bashing homosexuals/Kerry/liberals, then plays all inocent (see above). As any good mod should, Steph keeps a close eye on things.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 10:39
Because he is a Conservative and she is a Liberal, thats why.

Bollocks.

Raysia consistantly trolls, creating endless threads usually bashing homosexuals/Kerry/liberals, then plays all inocent (see above). As any good mod should, Steph keeps a close eye on things.Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.
Kirtondom
23-04-2004, 10:40
Surely you are allowed to bash as long as you keep your language in moderation? If I he did not then bye. If he just has some far out opinions then let him express them in a civil manner and we would have no problems
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 10:44
Surely you are allowed to bash as long as you keep your language in moderation? If I he did not then bye. If he just has some far out opinions then let him express them in a civil manner and we would have no problemsHello... I always watch my language... the only time I lost control was when I got deleted...
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 10:46
Surely you are allowed to bash as long as you keep your language in moderation? If I he did not then bye. If he just has some far out opinions then let him express them in a civil manner and we would have no problemsHello... I always watch my language... the only time I lost control was when I got deleted...

Its not your language that Steph has a problem with.
Utopio
23-04-2004, 10:48
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 10:48
Surely you are allowed to bash as long as you keep your language in moderation? If I he did not then bye. If he just has some far out opinions then let him express them in a civil manner and we would have no problemsHello... I always watch my language... the only time I lost control was when I got deleted...

Its not your language that Steph has a problem with.what then?

You have to understand, I never see what I do as trolling... that one I got mod-actioned for just before I got deleted was in fact trolling... but these other accusations, I totally miss whatever you guys are getting at.

You always assume I have underlying hostile intentions.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 10:49
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever....I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.
Utopio
23-04-2004, 10:50
You always assume I have underlying hostile intentions.

After being Snubis'd, I think we're all a bit suspicious.
Kirtondom
23-04-2004, 10:51
Surely you are allowed to bash as long as you keep your language in moderation? If I he did not then bye. If he just has some far out opinions then let him express them in a civil manner and we would have no problemsHello... I always watch my language... the only time I lost control was when I got deleted...
Well say what you like, back it up with the whys and any facts, watch how you say it and there should be no problem.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 10:53
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever....I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Seriously...if you dont have any idea of what we mean,..then you are either a) lying..
b) the dumbest man on the planet...

I dont believe its choice B.
Utopio
23-04-2004, 10:54
I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

I mean, look at it... how has the Media (and "hollywood") manipulated our society?

Just look at some of the messages they're sending:

Dating should be in reverse of what it was 100 years ago... Have sex first, then kiss, then date.

Marriage is a trial-and-error deal. Don't take it so seriously, because everyone divorces and remarries at least 5 times.

Homosexuality is cool, and Morality should be laughed at.

Sex Sells, and Sin is profitable.

God should not be a factor in the decision-making process.

If you stand for something, anything, you are close-minded.

Parents shouldn't teach their kids anything, the schools can take care of that.

Just a few of the crazy backwards messages these guys are feeding the world.

Now, if your not baiting here, what are you doing? Bold mine.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 10:57
You always assume I have underlying hostile intentions.

After being Snubis'd, I think we're all a bit suspicious.I seriously have little or no clue who snubis was... I never really paid much attention to him.

My only threads in general right now are (or were):

Origins of Native Americans According to Christians:
Original intent: Harmless question to Christians about what their explanation is for native americans.
Where it messed up: A bunch of Atheists showed up and wanted in on an IntraChristian discussion.
What it is now: I have no idea... everything from Bible Bashing to creationism vs. evolution to mormon bashing... no one is even close to being on topic anymore.
My fault?: Are you kidding me? Check for yourself, every 10 posts for the first 10 pages I try to kick these guys back onto topic.

Glad I have parents:
Original intent: I'm glad I actually had parnets who raised me, instead of leaving me for dead in the public school system and media.
Where it messed up: No idea
What it is now: A thread accusing me of trolling... wtf?
My Fault?: Uhh... I really don't think so.. Original intent seemed pretty non-trolling. But then, I'm me, and I can't see myself in 3rd person :P

Are there any Christians anymore?
Original Intent: Many so-called christians don't believe in the bible... who still does?
Where it went wrong: Steph said I already had one religious thread open, and that one had to go.
My Fault?: Uhh... I'm still confused about that one.

OK, I'm done defending myself for tonight. I'm outta here.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 10:59
I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

I mean, look at it... how has the Media (and "hollywood") manipulated our society?

Just look at some of the messages they're sending:

Dating should be in reverse of what it was 100 years ago... Have sex first, then kiss, then date.

Marriage is a trial-and-error deal. Don't take it so seriously, because everyone divorces and remarries at least 5 times.

Homosexuality is cool, and Morality should be laughed at.

Sex Sells, and Sin is profitable.

God should not be a factor in the decision-making process.

If you stand for something, anything, you are close-minded.

Parents shouldn't teach their kids anything, the schools can take care of that.

Just a few of the crazy backwards messages these guys are feeding the world.

Now, if your not baiting here, what are you doing? Bold mine."these guys" i'm referring to are the people controlling our society, our public schools, and our media. It's not talking about anyone on this forum... especially not in particular... how is that baiting?
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:00
ive never seen anyone who went out of thier way to make themselves seem so PERSECUTED.....

Hes just dying to be a martyr.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 11:00
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever....I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Seriously...if you dont have any idea of what we mean,..then you are either a) lying..
b) the dumbest man on the planet...

I dont believe its choice B.I seriously never knew/cared who snubis was.
Kirtondom
23-04-2004, 11:00
Yes he's trying to provoke people to discuss, are you saying that in what he states here there is nothing with merit?
I agree in part with the spirit of what is being said. I also disagree with other parts. So I would discuss. If this type of postig is flaming then let's have some one tell us what opinions we are allowed to express and we shall all follow like nice little sheep.
I would have to see something a little more extreme to say it was flaming.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 11:00
ive never seen anyone who went out of thier way to make themselves seem so PERSECUTED.....

Hes just dying to be a martyr.lol no, just trying to keep myself from being deated for no reason...
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:01
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever....I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Seriously...if you dont have any idea of what we mean,..then you are either a) lying..
b) the dumbest man on the planet...

I dont believe its choice B.I seriously never knew/cared who snubis was.

Now your playing dumb again...where in any of these posts ive quoted do I mention Snubis?
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 11:02
Yes he's trying to provoke people to discuss, are you saying that in what he states here there is nothing with merit?
I agree in part with the spirit of what is being said. I also disagree with other parts. So I would discuss. If this type of postig is flaming then let's have some one tell us what opinions we are allowed to express and we shall all follow like nice little sheep.
I would have to see something a little more extreme to say it was flaming.Thank you for stating the obvious. There is a difference between a discussion thread and a trolling thread.

A discussion thread: How do Christians say the Native Americans came to be?

A trolling thread: Gays eat babies!!11 or George Bush Killed my cat so republicans suck!
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 11:03
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever....I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Seriously...if you dont have any idea of what we mean,..then you are either a) lying..
b) the dumbest man on the planet...

I dont believe its choice B.I seriously never knew/cared who snubis was.

Now your playing dumb again...where in any of these posts ive quoted do I mention Snubis?Oh, lol, ok, my fault, wrong quote pyramid :P

Yeah, I have no clue what you're talking about me trolling... i seriously don't see how starting a discussion or debate denotes trolling...
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:05
Yes he's trying to provoke people to discuss, are you saying that in what he states here there is nothing with merit?
I agree in part with the spirit of what is being said. I also disagree with other parts. So I would discuss. If this type of postig is flaming then let's have some one tell us what opinions we are allowed to express and we shall all follow like nice little sheep.
I would have to see something a little more extreme to say it was flaming.Thank you for stating the obvious. There is a difference between a discussion thread and a trolling thread.

A discussion thread: How do Christians say the Native Americans came to be?

A trolling thread: Gays eat babies!!11 or George Bush Killed my cat so republicans suck!

No..those are example of OBVIOUS trolling....

Your simply being more subtle about by insulting many different sub-groups...therefore tout yout religious beliefs at every opportunity, and insult just about everyone else...
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:07
Consistantly... right... you do realize that I stopped most of that when i was deleted, right? I haven't said hardly anything about homosexuality, let alone homosexuals, and I haven't bashed liberals head on in a while, and come on, bashing Kerry is sooo not against the rules.

No, its not. However Raysia, so much of what you post is a fraction away from being an outright flame that you come off to me as either a troll or someone winging to get BALEETED again. Yes, you have calmed down, but to me at least it feels as if your seeing how far you can go without Mod action.

Its like your constantly driving at the maximum speed allowed with the traffic cops trailing you - yeah it's not illegal, but it's not considerate or clever....I seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Seriously...if you dont have any idea of what we mean,..then you are either a) lying..
b) the dumbest man on the planet...

I dont believe its choice B.I seriously never knew/cared who snubis was.

Now your playing dumb again...where in any of these posts ive quoted do I mention Snubis?Oh, lol, ok, my fault, wrong quote pyramid :P

Yeah, I have no clue what you're talking about me trolling... i seriously don't see how starting a discussion or debate denotes trolling...

Would you like me to give you an example?
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 11:07
Yes he's trying to provoke people to discuss, are you saying that in what he states here there is nothing with merit?
I agree in part with the spirit of what is being said. I also disagree with other parts. So I would discuss. If this type of postig is flaming then let's have some one tell us what opinions we are allowed to express and we shall all follow like nice little sheep.
I would have to see something a little more extreme to say it was flaming.Thank you for stating the obvious. There is a difference between a discussion thread and a trolling thread.

A discussion thread: How do Christians say the Native Americans came to be?

A trolling thread: Gays eat babies!!11 or George Bush Killed my cat so republicans suck!

No..those are example of OBVIOUS trolling....

Your simply being more subtle about by insulting many different sub-groups...therefore tout yout religious beliefs at every opportunity, and insult just about everyone else...Subtle Trolling... how can I possibly be subtly trolling? I assure you it's all in your head. You are seeing a troll where there is only an innocent topic.

If anything, you, and S-G, and Tuumania, and all them others who follow me around, are the real trolls, always trying to derail my threads into Anti-Raysia.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 11:08
Would you like me to give you an example?Humor me.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:12
Would you like me to give you an example?Humor me.

with pleasure.

Lets say I started a thread called...

"Im glad im an atheist"

Lets say It went something like this....

"Im so glad I wasnt raised a christian, since most of them will beliebe anything thier told...I just vcant imaging whats its like being brought up in a household that makes me believe in some whacko god-in-the-sky character.
I might have been molested by a priest...who knows?

Fortunately I wasnt.....and I can make up my own mind."


See?

Thats pretty much what you do..only in reverse.......its very much offensive to any christians reading it....and it will definately start an arguement between SOMEONE....


do you understand now?
Sdaeriji
23-04-2004, 11:43
Raysia need to get down off his fucking cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:52
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.

Schorgie, like Raysia, to a lesser extent...brought it all on himself.

"The Holocuast never happened....version 167."
Sdaeriji
23-04-2004, 11:55
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.

Schorgie, like Raysia, to a lesser extent...brought it all on himself.

"The Holocuast never happened....version 167."

Heh. Yeah. Anyone who posts inflammatory comments has to expect to get berated for them. Especially when they make said comments thousands and thousands of times.

What really ticks me off is his whole innocent act. He's shown he's reasonably intelligent, so he can't be so dense as to not understand why his comments piss people off. He probably thinks it's real funny to act so virginal.
Rotovia
23-04-2004, 11:56
Agh! Conflict of intrest, I like Stephistan and Raysia! The only solution is to eat cake and that I will do.
Sdaeriji
23-04-2004, 11:57
Agh! Conflict of intrest, I like Stephistan and Raysia! The only solution is to eat cake and that I will do.

I like your thinking. Chocolate cake, right?
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 11:58
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.

Schorgie, like Raysia, to a lesser extent...brought it all on himself.

"The Holocuast never happened....version 167."

Heh. Yeah. Anyone who posts inflammatory comments has to expect to get berated for them. Especially when they make said comments thousands and thousands of times.

What really ticks me off is his whole innocent act. He's shown he's reasonably intelligent, so he can't be so dense as to not understand why his comments piss people off. He probably thinks it's real funny to act so virginal.

Precisely.

He knows full well what he posts.
He plays dumb...but hes not.

It'll get him deleted again soon if he keeps it up...and then we wont have to worry about him anymore......two offenses will likely get him IP banned.

I really cant stand him..but I still hate to see that happen.
Rotovia
23-04-2004, 12:07
Agh! Conflict of intrest, I like Stephistan and Raysia! The only solution is to eat cake and that I will do.

I like your thinking. Chocolate cake, right?Is there any other kind? :wink:
Rotovia
23-04-2004, 12:09
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.
I apologise if I am about to offend anyone, however how dare you? Your statement is a blatent personnel insult and flambait. How dare you make a reference to the crucifiction in a personal attack on a Chrictian, have you no shame?
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 12:11
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.
I apologise if I am about to offend anyone, however how dare you? Your statement is a blatent personnel insult and flambait. How dare you make a reference to the crucifiction in a personal attack on a Chrictian, have you no shame?

Oh please....hes refering to Raysia's persecution act.....

Hes trying very hard to be a martyr...

dont make that statement into something its not.
Rotovia
23-04-2004, 12:36
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.
I apologise if I am about to offend anyone, however how dare you? Your statement is a blatent personnel insult and flambait. How dare you make a reference to the crucifiction in a personal attack on a Chrictian, have you no shame?

Oh please....hes refering to Raysia's persecution act.....

Hes trying very hard to be a martyr...

dont make that statement into something its not.I think to a certain extent Raysia is, older nations just don't get deated often. And I've done far worst than Raysia without incident. Noting my "Homosexuals pervert the fabric of our society" thread. And he could the phrase öff his highhorse" as it is correctly known instead of deliberately trying to provoke flame.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-04-2004, 12:40
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.
I apologise if I am about to offend anyone, however how dare you? Your statement is a blatent personnel insult and flambait. How dare you make a reference to the crucifiction in a personal attack on a Chrictian, have you no shame?

Oh please....hes refering to Raysia's persecution act.....

Hes trying very hard to be a martyr...

dont make that statement into something its not.I think to a certain extent Raysia is, older nations just don't get deated often. And I've done far worst than Raysia without incident. Noting my "Homosexuals pervert the fabric of our society" thread. And he could the phrase öff his highhorse" as it is correctly known instead of deliberately trying to provoke flame.

the age of a nation really has nothing to do with getting deleted or not..'
My nation was a year old.....and a Regional Delegate...and well over a billion in population when it got deleted.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 15:37
Raysia need to get down off his f--- cross. To anyone that remembers Schorgenland, the amount of abuse Raysia takes is minimal.forgive me... but what the crap are you talking about? In what way did I get put on any cross...?
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 15:40
Wow... you guys are really something else... Here I am, making innocent threads, and you guys always seem to find some crazy way to get offended by it. Or if you can't get offended by it, you just but in an derail the thread anyway.

I don't know where you get off saying that i'm just playing dumb like I have some sort of secret agenda.
Berkylvania
23-04-2004, 15:42
Wow... you guys are really something else... Here I am, making innocent threads, and you guys always seem to find some crazy way to get offended by it. Or if you can't get offended by it, you just but in an derail the thread anyway.

I don't know where you get off saying that i'm just playing dumb like I have some sort of secret agenda.

I don't think you're "playing" dumb, Ray. :D
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 15:57
Wow... you guys are really something else... Here I am, making innocent threads, and you guys always seem to find some crazy way to get offended by it. Or if you can't get offended by it, you just but in an derail the thread anyway.

I don't know where you get off saying that i'm just playing dumb like I have some sort of secret agenda.

I don't think you're "playing" dumb, Ray. :DI really am dumb :P

I ask questions like "What do christians believe about blah" out of ignorance, because I do not know any better! They don't teach religion in schools in america, and I want to know what other religions think!

If I post a thread about being proud of the way my parents raised me, That's not an attack on people who were raised by day care and school and tv... it's just asking who else feels the same way.

You all see a troll where there is an innocent!
Tactical Grace
23-04-2004, 16:12
Raysia / Capsule Corp, there are only two things I can really say to you.

The first is, every now and then, some player simply annoys the hell out of the General Forum community, and however that happens, that's their problem.

The second is, the actions of said player and his/her detractors are always considered by the Moderators impartially. Hopefully, you and your opponents can keep your disagreements civil, and the need for that will not arise.

I am not sure if this helps explain things at all, but that's what I can offer by way of opinion.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator
23-04-2004, 16:51
It is annoying to have a whole lotta threads that are useless and has been done before clogging up the first page. Means less time searching for the one you want.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 17:32
Raysia / Capsule Corp, there are only two things I can really say to you.

The first is, every now and then, some player simply annoys the hell out of the General Forum community, and however that happens, that's their problem.

The second is, the actions of said player and his/her detractors are always considered by the Moderators impartially. Hopefully, you and your opponents can keep your disagreements civil, and the need for that will not arise.

I am not sure if this helps explain things at all, but that's what I can offer by way of opinion.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderatorlol I had a feeling that was the case ^_^

However... there are plenty of othr people who could be found to be annoying and are never warned... so... yeah, nm
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 17:33
It is annoying to have a whole lotta threads that are useless and has been done before clogging up the first page. Means less time searching for the one you want.You mean like the 50 "Bush sucks" threads currently up? :P
Moozimoo
23-04-2004, 17:35
hey! leave him alone! he's admitted he did wrong and changed his ways! what more can he do? and stop complaining that unnessecesary threads are clogging up the front page - you posted in one! :wink:
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 17:39
Here's the deal: I won't post any more of the ol' same ol' boring ol' topics. There's enough of them.

That's what I thought I was doing with my laterst topic... but nope, they had to come and ruin that perfectly decent and interesting convewrsation too.

Would it be wrong if I tried to post that "native americans" question one more time, since the previous thread now has nothing to do with them?
Crossroads Inc
23-04-2004, 17:41
*minor hijack*
CC! you have T-Mail!
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 17:45
*minor hijack*
CC! you have T-Mail!returned :)
Stephistan
23-04-2004, 18:19
Sorry, I'm getting into this late in the thread. I was sleeping and then caring for my child.. Even mods have a life, I know scary, but true.

To hopefully set the record straight..

I don't have any thing against Ray

Whew, ok with that said. My issue with Ray's posts is the way in which he posts his message. He never fails to throw in a "they're crazy" or a "they're nuts" as if to say only his views are sane and or valid. Which of course he has every right to believe. This doesn't make what he says fact by no means. We all know that. However, he does have every right to post them. What I feel he doesn't have a right to do is post these threads that bait people and Ray is a smart enough person, I have little doubt that he knows exactly what he's doing. It's subtle some times, but most certainly there.

I like to think of myself as an objective person over all. Of course like any one else I have my own personal views and opinions. However, I do agree to disagree. I believe to take part in any meaningful debate you have to. That being said.. I have opened Ray's threads at times and start reading them, no I don't agree with him, but that's fine.. then I will get to a line that says "If you don't believe xyz" then you're crazy, nuts, have no values.. and it takes every thing even I have as a moderator not to give him a blast of sh*t.

Perhaps if Ray could learn or even try to convey his message without the baiting and insulting of every one who has yet to disagree with him, because lets face it, he insults you before you ever even respond. Then Ray would have no problems here on Nationstates. There are a lot of people I disagree with who have never even had so much as a warning from me. Then there are people I agree with a lot and then they've done some thing and I've deleted them. Just ask B.S. I agree with almost every thing the guy says, but when he broke the rules I deleted him. So, to say I'm "picking" on Ray is simply silly.

I have nothing against any one. I'm just doing my job.
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 18:34
Thanks for the explanation Steph.

That's all I needed.

Just as a note, I rarely say "you are nuts," I say "are you nuts," which is not always a rehtorical question... I mean it. When I hear of Christians who don't believe in the bible... Automatic response is "WHAT?! "

So, yeah, I come off like that sometimes, but I assure my intentions are not baiting.

Sorry!
Crossroads Inc
23-04-2004, 18:38
<pat pats CC>

See guys! I told you hes learning :)

'Auto Responses' can be a problem like you said though CC, When we shout something off without thinking it through it can usally come back to bite us.

But you are doing much better
Kryozerkia
23-04-2004, 18:44
Did he make a personal comment to her that caused her to have it out for him or what?
No, I think it was the repeated homophobic flamebaiting and ignoring of warnings.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

That sounds about right.

I was wondering when someone was going to get pissed off. (well, besides me and those who already were)
Capsule Corporation
23-04-2004, 22:33
Did he make a personal comment to her that caused her to have it out for him or what?
No, I think it was the repeated homophobic flamebaiting and ignoring of warnings.

Tactical Grace
Forum Moderator

That sounds about right.

I was wondering when someone was going to get pissed off. (well, besides me and those who already were)Hey, it's in the past. I got mad and used the wrong words.

I apologize if my word choice offended someone
Baclumi
24-04-2004, 04:07
Raysia didnt deserve to get deleted nearly as much as the Red Arrow deserves to get deleted. That is just my opinion though.
Monkeypimp
24-04-2004, 04:09
Raysia didnt deserve to get deleted nearly as much as the Red Arrow deserves to get deleted. That is just my opinion though.

I'm wondering what happened to the 1 pointless cut+paste rant a day rule they had imposed on him. He probably should have been pinged for spam ages ago, although the server seemingly helps stop him.
Rotovia
24-04-2004, 05:40
<pat pats CC>

See guys! I told you hes learning :)

'Auto Responses' can be a problem like you said though CC, When we shout something off without thinking it through it can usally come back to bite us.

But you are doing much betterLike those replies we all post, you know the ones you realise are insulting the moment you post them, then try to delete but can't because the server chooses that exact moment to go down.
Sdaeriji
24-04-2004, 05:43
Raysia didnt deserve to get deleted nearly as much as the Red Arrow deserves to get deleted. That is just my opinion though.

The reason Red Arrow doesn't deserve to get deleted is that he never has any opinions of his own, so he can never get nailed for anything remotely violating TOS, except the spamming thing, which they tightened up on him. Raysia, on the other hand, expresses opinions, and alot of the time make inflammatory remarks, which can get you in trouble. I guess that's an endorsement for not thinking for yourself, since it'll never get you in any trouble.
Sozo
24-04-2004, 07:53
In my opinion, Raysia has his own agenda, whatever that may be, and because of that he doesn't always stop to consider other people. What I mean by that is simply that Raysia does not consider other people thoughts, feelings, opinion, or anything else when he makes post, whether it be his threads, or his comments. In my opinion Raysia feels that he is right and because of that, I think he often times puts himself on a crusade to let the world or atleast the word of NS know that. I will say that I don't think it is ALWAYS his intent to hurt people, but there again, he doesn't stop to consider the likely consequences of his actions...

but that is just my opinion...
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 07:57
In my opinion, Raysia has his own agenda, whatever that may be, and because of that he doesn't always stop to consider other people. What I mean by that is simply that Raysia does not consider other people thoughts, feelings, opinion, or anything else when he makes post, whether it be his threads, or his comments. In my opinion Raysia feels that he is right and because of that, I think he often times puts himself on a crusade to let the world or atleast the word of NS know that. I will say that I don't think it is ALWAYS his intent to hurt people, but there again, he does stop to consider the likely consequences of his actions...

but that is just my opinion...I'm really sorry you feel that way
Sozo
24-04-2004, 08:08
like I said that is basically just my opinion. I'm not saying your a bad guy, I just think you don't really stop to consider others all the time. Take it as constructive criticism, we all have areas that we need to work at. I have them, just as well as the next person. We become better people when we recognize them and do our best to fix them.
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 08:11
Take it as constructive criticism Trust me, i do, and I thank you.

This is the first time anyone's actually tried to help me instead of bash me :P
24-04-2004, 08:14
Take it as constructive criticism Trust me, i do, and I thank you.

This is the first time anyone's actually tried to help me instead of bash me :PI can do both. In your threads, you seem to me implying that your opinion is the only correct one. While I don't like it, I'm not one to make a fuss over it. It's your opinion, of course, and everyone is entitled to their own. However, I think you should take other's opinions into regard as well, regardless if you like them or not. And make sure you catch yourself before making any implications that your opinions are the only correct ones.

Also, don't call yourself stupid. I'm sure that you're smarter than what you give yourself credit for.
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 08:16
Take it as constructive criticism Trust me, i do, and I thank you.

This is the first time anyone's actually tried to help me instead of bash me :PI can do both. In your threads, you seem to me implying that your opinion is the only correct one. While I don't like it, I'm not one to make a fuss over it. It's your opinion, of course, and everyone is entitled to their own. However, I think you should take other's opinions into regard as well, regardless if you like them or not. And make sure you catch yourself before making any implications that your opinions are the only correct ones.

Also, don't call yourself stupid. I'm sure that you're smarter than what you give yourself credit for.I'm sorry, but i really don't see where I think that any more than anyone else...

Can you show me an instance where I refuse to accept someone else's view point?
24-04-2004, 08:23
Take it as constructive criticism Trust me, i do, and I thank you.

This is the first time anyone's actually tried to help me instead of bash me :PI can do both. In your threads, you seem to me implying that your opinion is the only correct one. While I don't like it, I'm not one to make a fuss over it. It's your opinion, of course, and everyone is entitled to their own. However, I think you should take other's opinions into regard as well, regardless if you like them or not. And make sure you catch yourself before making any implications that your opinions are the only correct ones.

Also, don't call yourself stupid. I'm sure that you're smarter than what you give yourself credit for.I'm sorry, but i really don't see where I think that any more than anyone else...

Can you show me an instance where I refuse to accept someone else's view point?I can't show you an instance of that, as I don't read through it enough. It's more of an implied thing, I would think. I can't remember the name of the thread, but it had something to do with sex sells. Why I remember that, I don't know. But you said something about crazy, and I remember that, too. I am too lazy to fetch it, and note that it is 12:20AM here. *yawn* Just make sure that you don't do it, and quit calling yourself stupid. I don't like it when people call themselves stupid. That's for ME to say. :P
Catholic Europe
24-04-2004, 16:33
I'm genuinely curious. Whatever caused her to hold a grudge against him, I missed it.
He is a rather fundamentalist mormon.....
Jeruselem
24-04-2004, 16:41
I'm genuinely curious. Whatever caused her to hold a grudge against him, I missed it.
He is a rather fundamentalist mormon.....

and a Bush supporter :o
Capsule Corporation
24-04-2004, 19:35
I'm genuinely curious. Whatever caused her to hold a grudge against him, I missed it.
He is a rather fundamentalist mormon.....fundamentalist AND Mormon? that's an oxymoron :P
Catholic Europe
25-04-2004, 17:09
I'm genuinely curious. Whatever caused her to hold a grudge against him, I missed it.
He is a rather fundamentalist mormon.....

and a Bush supporter :o
Double whammy!