NationStates Jolt Archive

Huh? Why do you sit here and argue these trite arguments knowing full well you will never convince anyone of anything? Why do you continue to kick a dead horse over, and over, and over, until nothing is left but the bones?

I mean, do you people actually thing something is going to be accomplished? Do you think that if enough people read your waste, or someone else's waste in the case of Red Arrow, that something will happen? Maybe a magic genie will appear and it will wipe out war, or famine, or disease, or pestilance. Is that it? Do you think the trash you cut and paste or make up or post will do anything?

I read part of the waste that is put up here, and I can't help but picture Lenin and his crew hanging around Moscow doing nothing be debating each other - which is basically what they did right after the Revolution. Do you really think your words mean something? Hell, I can post the entire list of words or phrases that matter to me.

"Yes"
"No"
"Hands behind your head."
"Is it loaded?"

And that's about it. Your words fall on deaf ears.

Well, you're here too, so maybe you can answer your own question... :)

I'd like everyone to just shut up for once. Just plain shut up. No bickering about who has the better country, no comparing the US to Nazi Germany or calling the French cowards, just a bunch of normal people that like sex, beer, and one on one violence. But I also know that nothing I say will ever get that done.

It's a pointless way to have fun, mostly. ~ Michael.

just a bunch of normal people that like sex, beer, and one on one violence. But I also know that nothing I say will ever get that done.So you would like to see NS become a place where a bunch of drunks beat each other to a pulp over how to get sex. I like it better the way it is.

Excuse me for generalizing. A place where people aren't so obsessed with nothing they can fix. A place where people aren't so obsessed that they'd stab themselves in the eye to prove that Saudi Arabia was actually created in 1932.

You do realise that this is just one forum, don't you? Different NS forums, different worlds. This just happens to be the place where the things you describe happen, and it it pretty unique in that regard. If you go to Gameplay, for example, you will see different people discussing different things, with no political bashing.

Excuse me for generalizing. A place where people aren't so obsessed with nothing they can fix. A place where people aren't so obsessed that they'd stab themselves in the eye to prove that Saudi Arabia was actually created in 1932.Then maybe you should leave, if it exasperates you so much. ~ Michael.

just a bunch of normal people that like sex, beer, and one on one violence. But I also know that nothing I say will ever get that done.So you would like to see NS become a place where a bunch of drunks beat each other to a pulp over how to get sex. I like it better the way it is.

For once I agree with Jay. NS is a political game, and its forum is the place for political debate. Sure there's lots of crap and nonsense going on, too, but everyone decides for themselves which discussions they want to partake in. If you want sex, beer, and violence, go somewhere else and spare us your whining.

I'll take that suggestion and move on down the road TG, seeing as how there's already some bad blood between us.

I'd like everyone to just shut up for once. Just plain shut up. No bickering about who has the better country, no comparing the US to Nazi Germany or calling the French cowards, just a bunch of normal people that like sex, beer, and one on one violence. But I also know that nothing I say will ever get that done.

Well this isnt that Kind of forum. There are plenty of others. Even If you dont convince anyone, You come away from This forum with a refined sense of politics, world events and Debating Skills. Its more for yourself than other people.

A good little point that can be raised sometime is "Are you trying to convince others, or yourself?"

A good little point that can be raised sometime is "Are you trying to convince others, or yourself?"I cannot convince myself that waging earthly war will one day stop all war. It only lessens or worsens the amount of human misery and death we already experience. It lessens it if we stop threats and replace them with non-threats. It worsens if we do nothing when we see threats, or if we do the wrong thing to rectify threats. ~ Michael.

I'll take that suggestion and move on down the road TG, seeing as how there's already some bad blood between us.
What, just because you're a conservative and I'm not? Kinda silly, that.

Let me ask you this...

Why do you care what we do?

If, like you say...no one will ever listen to anything anyone says..and its all just wasted breath, why do you care what we do with it?
Are you morally concerned that we are engaged in fruitless endeavors?
Do you pine for a time when "things were so much better"?
Why do you give a rats ass, what people you have never met, do with thier free time?

Stay, participate....or go away...and save yourself a headache....either way...I dont care.

I'd like everyone to just shut up for once. Just plain shut up

What's the point of a forum where we all shut up? Do we all sit around not posting and if so, how do you know we've shut up ... :roll:

Yeah, What would you rather see in this space?

it's not to change the mind of the people posting for the opposing side. That's pretty much impossible. It's to change the mind of the people who don't know much about the issue and are just looking over posts without taking part in the argument

What makes you think that you'll be able to convince people to stop trying to convince people of things?

What makes you think that you'll be able to convince people to stop trying to convince people of things?

"It sounded better in my head."

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

:mrgreen:

I'm in! Welcome everybody to Vienna! That way you can drink legally if you're 16.

But I don't get that drunk anymore. Hard as I might try, I usually fall asleep before.

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd pay to see that. Preferably behind bulletproof glass.

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

:mrgreen:

I'm in! Welcome everybody to Vienna! That way you can drink legally if you're 16.

But I don't get that drunk anymore. Hard as I might try, I usually fall asleep before.

What an interesting pub-brawl it would make...

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd pay to see that. Preferably behind bulletproof glass.

We could just leave our nukes and axes at home you know...

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd pay to see that. Preferably behind bulletproof glass.

We could just leave our nukes and axes at home you know...

Yeah, and make everyone drink from rubber-glasses...And make sure all the furniture was made from balsa, the walls padded and everyone was wearing strait-jackets...

Huh? Why do you sit here and argue these trite arguments knowing full well you will never convince anyone of anything? Why do you continue to kick a dead horse over, and over, and over, until nothing is left but the bones?

Why do you read these trite arguments? Why do you breathe? Why does the sun shine? These are just the things we do, the things we feel obligated to do.

I mean, do you people actually thing something is going to be accomplished? Do you think that if enough people read your waste, or someone else's waste in the case of Red Arrow, that something will happen? Maybe a magic genie will appear and it will wipe out war, or famine, or disease, or pestilance. Is that it? Do you think the trash you cut and paste or make up or post will do anything?

Well, maybe someday we'll all find a solution that we agree on and actually find the energy to enact it; We read each other's "waste" and think about it and, if we're good at these things we do, we incorporate it into our own "waste" in some way. And eventually we're finally going to find the aforementioned agreeable solution. It's sort of like congress, except with no power and little action.

I read part of the waste that is put up here, and I can't help but picture Lenin and his crew hanging around Moscow doing nothing be debating each other - which is basically what they did right after the Revolution. Do you really think your words mean something? Hell, I can post the entire list of words or phrases that matter to me.

"Yes"
"No"
"Hands behind your head."
"Is it loaded?"

And that's about it. Your words fall on deaf ears.

Well, that's just you. If the words don't matter to you, don't read them. Don't pay any attention; you just play with those four phrases, live your life that way.

I'd like everyone to just shut up for once. Just plain shut up. No bickering about who has the better country, no comparing the US to Nazi Germany or calling the French cowards, just a bunch of normal people that like sex, beer, and one on one violence. But I also know that nothing I say will ever get that done.

You go masturbate at a bar with your drunken buddies while watching bar fights then.

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd pay to see that. Preferably behind bulletproof glass.

We could just leave our nukes and axes at home you know...

I need them to defend myself from the liberals/centrists/conservatives/communists/socialists/anarchists/capitalists
/Christians/Muslims/Hindus/Buddhists/Taoists/Atheists/Agnostics/
homosexuals/heterosexuals/bisexuals etc.

Hey, HotRodia, can you fix that so it doesn't eff up the page?

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd pay to see that. Preferably behind bulletproof glass.

We could just leave our nukes and axes at home you know...

Yeah, and make everyone drink from rubber-glasses...And make sure all the furniture was made from balsa, the walls padded and everyone was wearing strait-jackets...

Reminds me of this party we had in Sweden once. Nothing wrong with the people (a new class), but the location... Well, the place had no movable furniture, no rugs or anything like that. Just wooden benches and a table, nailed to the floor. The windows had iron bars covering them from the inside... :D

Hey, HotRodia, can you fix that so it doesn't eff up the page?

My bad.

Hey, HotRodia, can you fix that so it doesn't eff up the page?

My bad.

Ah, much better. I am too lazy to scroll sideways.

I'd like to see everyone from General in one place... Like a pub or something, and then get everyone a bit drunk, up to that "i can take the world on" level of drunkness (well except the christian yanks, they wouldn't be drinking, they'd only be there to tell people not to use condoms and stuff).

I'd pay to see that. Preferably behind bulletproof glass.

We could just leave our nukes and axes at home you know...

Yeah, and make everyone drink from rubber-glasses...And make sure all the furniture was made from balsa, the walls padded and everyone was wearing strait-jackets...

Reminds me of this party we had in Sweden once. Nothing wrong with the people (a new class), but the location... Well, the place had no movable furniture, no rugs or anything like that. Just wooden benches and a table, nailed to the floor. The windows had iron bars covering them from the inside... :D

Swede-proof :lol:

Hey, HotRodia, can you fix that so it doesn't eff up the page?

My bad.

Ah, much better. I am too lazy to scroll sideways.

Me too. That's why I actually fixed it.