NationStates Jolt Archive

Well would you? Remember, possible draftees are those who
-Dropped out of school
-Formerly in jail
-Bad record
-etc. etc. you get the picture

Oh, and only us Americans can really vote to make this fair. Seeing as how I doubt an Australian would get drafted by the US

Nope. I'm a girrrrrrrl.
And if I were, by some chance, to get drafted, I'd leave the country.

Once I graduate from college I will, I guess it means I should really look at getting into law school. Or moving to Canada. Or both.

when i think of being drafted i think of full metal jacket (which is not good by the way)

Once I graduate from college I will, I guess it means I should really look at getting into law school. Or moving to Canada. Or both.

Study US law and move to Canada? Your profession would be mocked :P and deemed "too strict"

Well would you? Remember, possible draftees are those who
-Dropped out of school
-Formerly in jail
-Bad record
-etc. etc. you get the picture

Oh, and only us Americans can really vote to make this fair. Seeing as how I doubt an Australian would get drafted by the US

No.

I was watching Hannity and Colmes tonight and they talked to the black guy who had proposed the bill. He said everyone, including those in college, between the ages of 18 and 26 could be drafted. There is absolutely no way out. The people are picked randomly, too, so it is not just those who have had prior trouble with the law or dropped out of school, etc.

What's the draft age minimum?

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

Well would you? Remember, possible draftees are those who
-Dropped out of school
-Formerly in jail
-Bad record
-etc. etc. you get the picture

Oh, and only us Americans can really vote to make this fair. Seeing as how I doubt an Australian would get drafted by the US

No.

I was watching Hannity and Colmes tonight and they talked to the black guy who had proposed the bill. He said everyone, including those in college, between the ages of 18 and 26 could be drafted. There is absolutely no way out. The people are picked randomly, too, so it is not just those who have had prior trouble with the law or dropped out of school, etc.

Now THAT guy needs to get drafted himself

Once I graduate from college I will, I guess it means I should really look at getting into law school. Or moving to Canada. Or both.

Study US law and move to Canada? Your profession would be mocked :P and deemed "too strict"

Im guessing Canada has law schools. you have, like, police and things up there, right?

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

seriously... america is going back to the 50's or something

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

seriously... america is going back to the 50's or something

what? you mean terrible music?


NOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :shock: :shock: :shock:

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

seriously... america is going back to the 50's or something

what? you mean terrible music?


NOOOOOOOOOOO

actually, yeah...boy bands, talent shows, a crack down on sex...my grandma is really happy i guess

There is a small chance that I would be selected for conscription, if things were very desperate. But, I don't forsee any draft, not because I don't think the government would do it but because conscripts are of much less use than they were in the past.

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

seriously... america is going back to the 50's or something

what? you mean terrible music?


NOOOOOOOOOOO

actually, yeah...boy bands, talent shows, a crack down on sex...my grandma is really happy i guess

so should I start predicting Sputnik and see who won Super bowls at that decade for bets?

Well would you? Remember, possible draftees are those who
-Dropped out of school
-Formerly in jail
-Bad record
-etc. etc. you get the picture

Oh, and only us Americans can really vote to make this fair. Seeing as how I doubt an Australian would get drafted by the US

But, Australia is the 51st state. How could it not be?

I really think everyone Is making a big deal about this. The same idiots keep reintroducing the same legislation again and again. Its not gonna happen.

:roll: I still remember handing in my selective service card at the post office when I was 18. I said that didn't hurt much, some biker dude thought that was quite funny.

I'm glad to be beyond draft age now. Looks like the Prez will start the draft if he gets re-elected, or swing the election somehow. :(

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

seriously... america is going back to the 50's or something

what? you mean terrible music?


NOOOOOOOOOOO

actually, yeah...boy bands, talent shows, a crack down on sex...my grandma is really happy i guess

so should I start predicting Sputnik and see who won Super bowls at that decade for bets?

Im just going to get a buzz cut and a nice cardigan just in case

Once I graduate from college I will, I guess it means I should really look at getting into law school. Or moving to Canada. Or both.

Study US law and move to Canada? Your profession would be mocked :P and deemed "too strict"

Im guessing Canada has law schools. you have, like, police and things up there, right?

Sure do, but if you go to the supreme court you have to wear a robe and sometimes the wig too (the wig might be out now though, but I'm pretty sure the robe is still in).

Reminded me what a comedian said. "I'm not originally from Canada, my dad was just stationed here during the Vietnam war."

p.s. If I don't vote can I still be here? :D

they'r not gunna start predricing flying cars again are they?

Flying cars are closer than you think my friend :D

Flying cars are closer than you think my friend :D

true...sort of

probibly, but until i see a hovering lexis, i still wont be impressed.

I dont think the Prez can get away with introducing the Draft.
The 60's changed things. After that it just wasnt acceptable to force people to die for something they may not believe in. Before the 60's, everyone really didnt just question war all that much.

I dont think the Prez can get away with introducing the Draft.
The 60's changed things. After that it just wasnt acceptable to force people to die for something they may not believe in. Before the 60's, everyone really didnt just question war all that much.

yeah, but there hasnt really been a test of that. also, im not sure the president is really in tune with what is acceptable

I can see how it might be possible. But I dont think the strategy will work. And I think you give him too much credit. If I were you I'd say "What His advisors thinks they can get away with"
By keeping everything politically charged He might be able to get the Public to go along with it. A climate similar to pre-viatnam. But its not a war of defence, theres no fight for survival. Its not Us or them. As far as people Are concenred the War is over. They wont accept all kids going off for a four year hitch. They want the whole thing to be over now. Not be doing hard work, but the 2 minute noodle, Instant oatmeal way. Just keep thier heads under the sand.

You all forget that Private security can do a much better job. Thats what the Answer will be. Not the Draft. Iraqi is a private militaries heaven.

Well would you? Remember, possible draftees are those who
-Dropped out of school
-Formerly in jail
-Bad record
-etc. etc. you get the picture

Oh, and only us Americans can really vote to make this fair. Seeing as how I doubt an Australian would get drafted by the US

No.

I was watching Hannity and Colmes tonight and they talked to the black guy who had proposed the bill. He said everyone, including those in college, between the ages of 18 and 26 could be drafted. There is absolutely no way out. The people are picked randomly, too, so it is not just those who have had prior trouble with the law or dropped out of school, etc.

Now THAT guy needs to get drafted himselfIf it's Charlie Rangel you're talking about, I think he's already served in the military--I'm not positive about that, but reasonably sure he did.

And while the draft is a time bomb Bush certainly won't set off before November 2, it's a time bomb I would actually support, with a couple of caveats.

When Rangel's bill came out last year, it had a couple of loopholes big enough for millions of campaign contributions to drive through--the President has personal authority to exempt anyone he wants in that bill, so the economic disparity issue is never taken care of. If we draft one, we draft all, male and female, is how I feel about it. Conscientious objectors and people with religious objections can serve alternate duty outside the armed forces.

Second, there's got to be some benefit to draftees beyond 3 squares and a place to sleep. There's got to be some sort of benefit, whether it's in the form of free tuition to any school that will take you to a startup bonus of some kind once your term is up.

But here's the big reason I support a draft--and I've got a daughter who would have to face this in 4 years. Here in the US we, individually, have a problem with empathy. We never consider how others may be affected by some tragedy until it hits us. Nancy Reagan didn't give two shits about stem cell research until Ronnie got Alzheimers--that sort of thing. But if every parent has a kid in harm's way, or potentially in harm's way in the future, then maybe some dumb ass politician who managed to avoid combat when it was his turn won't have quite so much public support the next time he decides it's time to kick some ass. Maybe he'd think twice if it was little Jenna in the Green Zone dodging car bombs. And even if he didn't, quite a few more American adults might. And that's got to be a good thing in my book.

I handed in my conscientious objector application many years ago. It was denied because I was "in the wrong religion".

I would rather go to jail. The decision was made and it still stands.

I handed in my conscientious objector application many years ago. It was denied because I was "in the wrong religion".

I would rather go to jail. The decision was made and it still stands.Were I of draft age, I would likely do the same. Fortunately, even if Rangel's bill is passed--and it won't be any time soon--national service can be substituted for military service apparently. How that would work out and what would be included is a little unclear, but if it offered options like acting as a teacher's aide in an underprivileged school or something like that, I'd be glad to do it.

Honestly, if it came to the point where a draft was necessary, I'd put college on hold and enlist.

~The Great Thesisme

bringing back the draft?
what off-their-rocker bag of fruit thought that up?

seriously... america is going back to the 50's or something

Sweet spanking monkeys! Does that mean the USSR can come back too? I just hate this modern world, what with no Soviet ICBMs pointed at my head. I'd to be drafted since I'm medically unfit to enlist. And maybe I could get transported back to 1950 and relive all my greatest memories.