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racism good or bad?

What do you think?

And winner of the dumbest question in history goes too........*drum roll*

How can you even ask this? How is any form of racism good? jeeeezus

If you mean judging people purely on the basis of race, then yes, it's bad.

How can it possibly be a good thing
I can see how people could argue for nationalism or patriotism, but racism?
I just don't get it, I mean we are taught to love one another as we love ourselves, fair enough some people got a real downer on themselves but why does any person, of any race have the right to feel superior?

And winner of the dumbest question in history goes too........*drum roll*

How can you even ask this? How is any form of racism good? jeeeezus

How Stupid
Clearly the question is just there for a joke, so don't take things so seriously.

Two people answered yes so far?!?!?!

I guess it can be good in a sense that we can weed out the neanderthals who are actually racist and attempt to keep them from breeding or raising any children.

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yes! of course it is! What kind of stupid question is that?


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yes! of course it is! What kind of stupid question is that?


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Why do you think that racism is bad? I dont have a problem with ethnic diversity but it is people that live in different country's and speak different languages because they can. Some of them dont have the ability to speak the language of the country then they should stay the heck back in their native country. And they need to be able to keep a job because we pay taxes so they can live off of welfare. Thats CRAP!!!!!

Why do you think that racism is bad? I dont have a problem with ethnic diversity but it is people that live in different country's and speak different languages because they can. Some of them dont have the ability to speak the language of the country then they should stay the heck back in their native country. And they need to be able to keep a job because we pay taxes so they can live off of welfare. Thats CRAP!!!!!

And winner of the dumbest question in history goes too........*drum roll*

How can you even ask this? How is any form of racism good? jeeeezus

What an idiot. And the winner of dumbest person goes to.......*Drum Roll*

You!! You freakin' moron. Gullable fool.

And winner of the dumbest question in history goes too........*drum roll*

How can you even ask this? How is any form of racism good? jeeeezus

What an idiot. And the winner of dumbest person goes to.......*Drum Roll*

You!! You freakin' moron. Gullable fool.

.....And that just cost you a warning, attack the argument, NOT the player!

Knock it off!

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Why do you think that racism is bad? I dont have a problem with ethnic diversity but it is people that live in different country's and speak different languages because they can. Some of them dont have the ability to speak the language of the country then they should stay the heck back in their native country. And they need to be able to keep a job because we pay taxes so they can live off of welfare. Thats CRAP!!!!!
Too right- i agree!

It has it’s ups and downs. Certainly more downs than ups. Most racists that I’ve known are as harmless as kittens and just keep in their own little world. They wont go out of their way to harm anyone. One racist that I know is even a Tiger Woods fan. He’s not an “all blacks are evil” racists, he’s an “I don’t like blacks, but I can get to like some” racist. Basically racism is stratified into different levels, from the people who just aren’t comfortable being around a group of black people, to people who want them all dead. Those who aren’t comfortable can get to know certain black people, but may still have discomfort towards others.

So what are the benefits is the question at hand. It helps ensure genetic diversity and ethnic diversity. Today people can travel all over the world and copulate with people of a different genetic line. This itself adds to genetic diversity, but if people didn’t have an inborn preference to people of similar characteristics then eventually it could be that over time only a single race would exist and there would be less genetic diversity. So low levels of racism are perfectly acceptable.
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Why do you think that racism is bad? I dont have a problem with ethnic diversity but it is people that live in different country's and speak different languages because they can. Some of them dont have the ability to speak the language of the country then they should stay the heck back in their native country. And they need to be able to keep a job because we pay taxes so they can live off of welfare. Thats CRAP!!!!!

Racisim in the sense of discrimnation is bad but the duck hunter makes a valid point...if u dont speak the language and arent learning it and/or living on welfare that American Citizens pay for and you are an imigrant then you do need to get the Heck out of the united states or any country because u shouldnt be there!

Racism is good :!:

You cant argue it....

Hmm . . . if I were president I would make an exception to a part of one of our constitutional amendments and allow racist scum to undergo cruel and unusual punishment . . . but then again i can just toughen sentences for hate crimes . . .

And winner of the dumbest question in history goes too........*drum roll*

How can you even ask this? How is any form of racism good? jeeeezus

Yes Racism is bad but you should not even be talking Rahiles. You have voiced out anti-christan properganda and said all christanse are blood thirsty maniacs. You should shut up. You are a over opinonated moron. You are a racist aganst christanse so don't give me your PC CRAP.

Why do you think that racism is bad? I dont have a problem with ethnic diversity but it is people that live in different country's and speak different languages because they can. Some of them dont have the ability to speak the language of the country then they should stay the heck back in their native country. And they need to be able to keep a job because we pay taxes so they can live off of welfare. Thats CRAP!!!!!

1) do you know how rare this is? Statistically speaking, the people that are most likely to use welfare programs are naturalized residents, not immigrants.
2) That's not really racism, that's just not liking lazy people.

Racism is one of the worst things possible but when you look at it closer, it isn't such a "duh". Look over history, from the age old Muslims v.s. Jews, to the Crusades, to Europeans coming to North America and treating the aboriginals like sh*t, to Nazi Germany and it's conquest against Jews, Gays, Mormons, Eastern Europeans, to Martin Luther King JR. in the 1950s and 60s and finally Bush's war on Islam, "clears throat", I mean terrorism (One USA general did potray the War in Iraq that way during a speech last year). I know i'll get ridicule for at least one of those comments but thats what I believe, so while the obvious may be to say it's wrong, clearly, alot of humans over the past thousands of years don't think it is. Why do you think there is still the KKK, Neo-Nazi's, Ariyans, etc? Because racism is still prevelant in todays society. I personally find it a disgusting act because of the pure ignorance that seeps through the racists heads. I've met plenty of white people who are absolute @$$holes and then people from India who couldn't be nicer. There are people of every race like that, so don't judge a race based on skin, eye or hair colour but what kind of person they are and how they treat you and others.

Is the judging of a person solely on his race good or bad? :? Are you people for real? Of course it's bad, the fact that some thick skulled n00b even proposed the question shows it's time for old Animal Control to wake up and clean out the kennel, the little yipping white dogs are starting to make noise again.

Why do you think that racism is bad? I dont have a problem with ethnic diversity
Apparently you do as I read the rest of your post......

but it is people that live in different country's and speak different languages because they can. Some of them dont have the ability to speak the language of the country then they should stay the heck back in their native country.
I bet some are not too good with grammar either?

And they need to be able to keep a job because we pay taxes so they can live off of welfare. Thats CRAP!!!!!
Of course there are no indigenious Americans who are on welfare?

Racism stems from intolerance, leads to anger and hate and invariably ends up in violence and death. Yeah racism is not too cool.

Ah yes, racism. The wondrous tirades of those, crying out about all the ways they have been deprived of their rights and all that is due them. How every bad thing is the result of "those" people - how "those" people on welfare drain the country's resources, not considering that the servicing of the nation's nuclear arsenal costs $150,000,000,000 per day ... yes, $150 billion dollars every day is spent just to maintain weapons of mass destruction - not develop new ones, or anything else, just maintain.

Oh, they don't want to learn how to speak English .... Did you know that an adult learning English as a second language is likely to take far longer than any child from the same country? Of course not, racism has blinded you.

As someone who teaches English as a second language to special education students - to students from backgrounds where they may have been exposed to war, torture, starvation - or worse, I know, first hand, just what "these people" go through as refugees, and I will tell you that if you believe that they don't want to work, or they don't want to learn, you are more ignorant than anyone has ever imagined.

The people who have managed to escape from these countries (Somalia, Rwanda, Burundi, and other African countries), making it into Canada as refugees, receive Welfare (General Family Assistance) while the adults learn English (or French - if they are in Quebec), and while the children are in school. However, some - many, in fact - of the adults may never be able to work due to permanent psychological disability (for those admitted as refugees and victims of violence), having been tortured and ... well, the horror stories are enough to make you cry - unless you are a heartless bastard.

Racism is truly good for separating out the truly useless members of society, and marking them as those who should never be allowed to reproduce, so that their damaged seed cannot be spread beyond this wounded generation.

its bad, but it does provide for some good jokes

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yugoslavia : Yes I am definately not for christianity, and your lack of intelligence is showing through :)

Look at the word Racism - if I were racist it means I would be going against you because of your race -NOT your faith.

I do not like organsied religion and that is my personal view, I have been happy to debate the ins and outs of religion and faith and I have ALWAYS given reasons for feeling the way I do, I have found that pro-religious people just instantly get defensive and start attacking my views. Although it's been refreshing to see some religious people put forward good arguments and reasons as to why they dis-agree with me.

As for Racisim........

I live in Scotland - UK and we get many many refugees coming into this country, they get free housing (while UK citizens still sleep rough), they get free driving lessons, they get benefits and healthcare etc.

Do I agree with this? not entirely, because many are taking advantage and many pass through germany, France, Spain etc to get there (so why won't those countries take them?) But does this mean that I hate the refugees? Of course not, they are taking advantage of a system and getting what they can, I hate our countries policies, I hate our governmnt and I hate the fact I pay taxes for it. I don't hate anyone because they are trying to get a better life for themselves and if a country / government offers it to them, they are of course going to jump at the chance.

I would like to see his countries policies change so that UK citizens got priorioty - for instance helping the UK nationals who are homeless, or kids who get beaten up and abused etc etc Charity starts at home and when we have our own affairs in order then we should start looking to really help others.

BUT I do not hate any one based on their race.....we are all human and all equal - EVERYONE on this planet deserves the same freedoms as anyone else IMHO. Racisim is bad because it promotes hate based on someones skin colour or ethnic origins, which is wrong.

And before someone *again* jumps on the bandwagon to say I'm being racist, get a life.

Do I agree with this? not entirely, because many are taking advantage and many pass through germany, France, Spain etc to get there (so why won't those countries take them?) But does this mean that I hate the refugees? Of course not, they are taking advantage of a system and getting what they can, I hate our countries policies, I hate our governmnt and I hate the fact I pay taxes for it. I don't hate anyone because they are trying to get a better life for themselves and if a country / government offers it to them, they are of course going to jump at the chance.

I would like to see his countries policies change so that UK citizens got priorioty - for instance helping the UK nationals who are homeless, or kids who get beaten up and abused etc etc Charity starts at home and when we have our own affairs in order then we should start looking to really help others.

BUT I do not hate any one based on their race.....we are all human and all equal - EVERYONE on this planet deserves the same freedoms as anyone else IMHO. Racisim is bad because it promotes hate based on someones skin colour or ethnic origins, which is wrong.

And before someone *again* jumps on the bandwagon to say I'm being racist, get a life.

I don't see how you could be called a racist- you're against the policies that allow foreign nationals to take advantage of benefits that UK citizens have no access to. I don't see how that makes you a racist- after all these deprived UK citizens are probably of all races- Black, White, Asian, Oriental...

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".

http://skepdic.com/iqrace.html

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".


Bravo, for daring to talk about stuff that is generally taboo now. There and again, they'll try and discredit what you say by reference to IQ tests being ethnocentric, i.e. invented by whites. Well, if that's the case, then why do the Chinese and the Japanese outscore Europeans?

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".


Bravo, for daring to talk about stuff that is generally taboo now. There and again, they'll try and discredit what you say by reference to IQ tests being ethnocentric, i.e. invented by whites. Well, if that's the case, then why do the Chinese and the Japanese outscore Europeans?

Race is a social construct, not a biological one.

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".


Bravo, for daring to talk about stuff that is generally taboo now. There and again, they'll try and discredit what you say by reference to IQ tests being ethnocentric, i.e. invented by whites. Well, if that's the case, then why do the Chinese and the Japanese outscore Europeans?

Race is a social construct, not a biological one.

In your dreams....

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".

http://skepdic.com/iqrace.htmlAn eloquent minimalist bebuttal Kanteletar, sadly most of these knuckledraggers won't bother to read it.

Racism is bad. That should be obvious. Why should someone hate another person based on the amount of pigmentation (or lack thereof) in his or her skin?

I'm Indian and my girlfriend is half Dutch, a quarter Scots and a quarter English (Hitler turns in his unmarked grave) and I believe that a person's race should not be recognised as a factor. After all, we're all the same species.

Yes, we are all Homo-Sapien. The idea that we are all equal though is a fallacy. For anyone who cares to look at the statistics, black people in the USA have an average IQ in the low 80's, whites about 102, and people of Asian extraction, particularly "oriental", about 106. Black IQ remains low even when living standards improve, as for example with the beneficiaries of affirmative action and their families. (Black IQ in sub-Saharan Africa averages a staggering 75).

Given that an IQ of around 80 is needed to function even remotely productively in an advanced technological society such as ours, it's hardly surprising that so many black people fail to make the grade, or at least need affirmative action and government protection to get a decent paycheck. In other words, it's not racism that keeps black people, in general, down, it's genetics. That's just a fact of life, one we choose to ignore with our outdated fetish with "equality".


Bravo, for daring to talk about stuff that is generally taboo now. There and again, they'll try and discredit what you say by reference to IQ tests being ethnocentric, i.e. invented by whites. Well, if that's the case, then why do the Chinese and the Japanese outscore Europeans?

Race is a social construct, not a biological one.

In your dreams....

Beyond skin pigmentation and variations in skull shape, there is no difference. It is possible that a randomly selected white person is gentically closer to a randomly selected black person than another randomly selected white person. Besides race of both: human. Unless there are some Neanderthals I don't know about somewhere.

Race is a social construct, not a biological one.

Sure, sure, sure. That explains why blacks underachieve in every country or society they've ever lived in. That's why practically every civilization that has had contact with them has enslaved them, from the Phoenicians to the Romans to the Arabs to the Europeans. The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...

Race is a social construct, not a biological one.

Sure, sure, sure. That explains why blacks underachieve in every country or society they've ever lived in. That's why practically every civilization that has had contact with them has enslaved them, from the Phoenicians to the Romans to the Arabs to the Europeans. The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...

Of course we'll just have to ignore the Nubian empire which existed at the same time as the Egyptian dynasties, and nearly equalled their size.

Oh and the Moors, don't forget they conquered Spain.

Race is a social construct, not a biological one.

Sure, sure, sure. That explains why blacks underachieve in every country or society they've ever lived in. That's why practically every civilization that has had contact with them has enslaved them, from the Phoenicians to the Romans to the Arabs to the Europeans. The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...All the civilizations you mentioned didn't limit slavery to just blacks, it was just easier to keep blacks in slavery because their physical appearence kept them from blending into society, a fact that was exploited for no other reason but greed.

Oh and the Moors, don't forget they conquered Spain.

The Nubian Empire. The Nubians were the prime source of Egyptian slaves. And the Moors were not black, they were of Arab/Berber descent, although it's a common misconception to believe they were black.

Don't you know any real history? Or is the only history you know of the atypical politicized liberal variety?

The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...

So lets see some counter-evidence of this 'crap'. Have you any reputible study that shows people of different skin colours are a seperate species?

Because we all know black cats and white cats are completely seperate....

The great "Nubian Empire" indeed, well-known throughout history for its accomplishments. When people start spouting crap about the nubian empire you *know* they're bereft of real arguments. Laughable

Oh and the Moors, don't forget they conquered Spain.

The Nubian Empire. The Nubians were the prime source of Egyptian slaves. And the Moors were not black, they were of Arab/Berber descent, although it's a common misconception to believe they were black.

Don't you know any real history? Or is the only history you know of the atypical politicized liberal variety?And you FS are supposed to be a paragon of unbiased truth and information? puhleeze. Your personal bias is dripping from your posts.

Oh and the Moors, don't forget they conquered Spain.

The Nubian Empire. The Nubians were the prime source of Egyptian slaves. And the Moors were not black, they were of Arab/Berber descent, although it's a common misconception to believe they were black.

Don't you know any real history? Or is the only history you know of the atypical politicized liberal variety?

The Egyptians took slaves from everyone around them, ever read Exodus?

The Moors were an amalgam of Berber, sub-Saharan African (ie Black), and Arab, they were nomadic prior to the invasion of Spain after all.

The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...

So lets see some counter-evidence of this 'crap'. Have you any reputible study that shows people of different skin colours are a seperate species?

Because we all know black cats and white cats are completely seperate....

I never said they were a separate species. Different IQ levels between whites, blacks, and asians are a fact of life. Get over it.

The great "Nubian Empire" indeed, well-known throughout history for its accomplishments. When people start spouting crap about the nubian empire you *know* they're bereft of real arguments. Laughable

I never said anything about "great". The Nubians formed a long-lasting empire despite an aggressive rival in the north, that in itself is an accomplishment. And what "crap" about them did I spout exactly?

The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...

So lets see some counter-evidence of this 'crap'. Have you any reputible study that shows people of different skin colours are a seperate species?

Because we all know black cats and white cats are completely seperate....

I never said they were a separate species. Different IQ levels between whites, blacks, and asians are a fact of life. Get over it.

http://skepdic.com/iqrace.html

Oh well, enough arguing for now with the closed-minded. Some people will *never* get over their sad prejudice concerning equality. There's no arguing with them at all. Sad, but true. :o

The "Race is a social construct" argument is just Marxist/liberal crap, supported by left-wing scientists who quote DNA stats that are supposed to prove equality while ignoring the fact that the chimpanzee shares about 98.5% of our DNA, and the fruit fly more than half...

So lets see some counter-evidence of this 'crap'. Have you any reputible study that shows people of different skin colours are a seperate species?

Because we all know black cats and white cats are completely seperate....

I never said they were a separate species. Different IQ levels between whites, blacks, and asians are a fact of life. Get over it.Your information on differing IQ levels is skewed and outdated (the typical stuff WN's spread) try quoting a study from this decade using subjects of similar backgrounds and we'll take you seriously.

Oh well, enough arguing for now with the closed-minded. Some people will *never* get over their sad prejudice concerning equality. There's no arguing with them at all. Sad, but true. :o :lol: look who has the balls to call others 'closed-minded' and talk about 'sad predudice', now thats funny.

I never said they were a separate species. Different IQ levels between whites, blacks, and asians are a fact of life. Get over it.

Again I'll say it: show me some evidence. I'm afraid I'm not just going to 'get over it'. If it's a 'fact of life' then you should be able to find some info.

Here's a link to an interesting book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0965683613/ref=pd_sim_books_3/103-7191773-9023026?v=glance&s=books

This one, to my mind, conclusively proves racial inequality. This is written by an academic, and is not a racist rant, just a cold, hard, look at the facts of differing IQ and its consequences. More people should read it.

The book even has a flattering review from the NY Times. Considering how liberal the Times is, that should say something for its quality.

I should say for its objectivity

Here's a link to an interesting book on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0965683613/ref=pd_sim_books_3/103-7191773-9023026?v=glance&s=books

This one, to my mind, conclusively proves racial inequality. This is written by an academic, and is not a racist rant, just a cold, hard, look at the facts of differing IQ and its consequences. More people should read it.


Rushton has been discredited numerous times since his publication about the genetic differences between groups. The recent findings by the Human Genome Project have put the final nail in his academic coffin when they concluded that there are greater genetic differences amongst people within a "racial" group then in comparison to other "racial" groups.

Even if you are using Rushton to justify racist dogma, then recognize that he places Asians and Ashkenazi Jews above the "white" race in average intelligence.

I can't believe 18 people think racism is a good thing :?

Believe it. It's actually a lot less than i expected.

Forgive my ignorance here as I am a little confused.

I seem to be getting the jist that some people on here seem to think that racism is acceptable based upon a persons IQ (or a collective race IQ?!?)

I have no knowledge of the validity of the claims about the different IQ levels, but I do not think IQ is justification for racisim or a justification or an excuse for any form of slavery.

I have posted before on why certain people flourish and why others don't....my friend worked in Chad and saw first had the selfish nature and attitude of people from that region, can that be blamed on IQ? I don't know. can it be balmed on upbringing and social conditioning? probably.

People from Chad are (for the most part) very selfish and 'out for themselves' and that is why charities in the UK annoy me by saying we 'HAVE' to help these people - whereas I've said, let them help themselves, if they want to make things better they should stop relying on others.

HOWEVER under no circumstances should ANYONES intelligence level come into the way they are treated. I have a cousin who is retarded, are you saying we should treat him like any less of a human being?

I think a lot of people on here need to step back and take a good long look at themselves.

Are your opinions coming from a sense of bravado / wanting to annoy people / upbringing (ignorant parents?) Have you really considered the wider implications of what is being said? Are you making the world a better place by thinking this way?

I for one disagree with helping other countries out while our own is such a mess, but I would never ever ever assume that because I live in a 'better' society that I am any better than any other individual.

Oh and the Moors, don't forget they conquered Spain.

The Nubian Empire. The Nubians were the prime source of Egyptian slaves. And the Moors were not black, they were of Arab/Berber descent, although it's a common misconception to believe they were black.

Don't you know any real history? Or is the only history you know of the atypical politicized liberal variety?

You really do need to learn to tell the difference between "stuff you've heard about" and "history". The Nubian Empire was real, and large, and powerful. They conquered Egypt in the 8th century BC. The Nubian Kings became the 25th Dynasty. In any case, for thousands of years before, Egyptian culture was completely interpenetrated by other African cultures and peoples. The Nubians were the prime source for centuries of Egyptian soldiers -- mostly as paid mercenaries. It's not like this is all a big secret or anything. Try reading a few books published after 1950.

You might also be interested in other African cultures, like the huge, powerful, cultured and sophisticated -- especially when compared to, say, anywhere in Europe at the time -- Empire of Ghana. Or Saba. Or Kush. Or Mali. Or Songhay. Or the Hausa Kingdoms. Or the Kanem-Bornu. Or the Swahili Kingdoms. Or the Mwenemutapa Empire. You might consider the interactions of these cultures with each other, and later with European and Arab traders. You might also consider the effects of disease, and compare it with similar European incursions made into South America. You might: but I'm betting you won't.

I think a lot of people on here need to step back and take a good long look at themselves.

Are your opinions coming from a sense of bravado / wanting to annoy people / upbringing (ignorant parents?) Have you really considered the wider implications of what is being said? Are you making the world a better place by thinking this way?

I for one disagree with helping other countries out while our own is such a mess, but I would never ever ever assume that because I live in a 'better' society that I am any better than any other individual.

Racism stems from a deep-seated sense of inferiority. Most normal people, when they want to feel good about themselves, can turn to their achievements: "I'm good at my job"; "I've earned a good home for myself"; "I've written three books"; "I have a happy family"; "I'm a kickass Mah-Jongg player": whatever they like. But when people are reduced to trying to feel good about themselves because of the colour of their skin, you know they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. "I've got white skin!" they cry. "Oh, well done. Bra-VO. What an achievement," is what they want to hear. And when they don't, they get angry and spiteful. Which, I suppose, is understandable: they are, after all, demonstrably inadequate.

You just need to look at Great Racists Though History to see this: every one who advocated racial superiority was in many ways physically and socially deficient. Hitler was a half-pint failed artist; Himmler a pigeon-chested, chinless failed chicken-farmer; Goebbels was crippled from childhood by polio, which -- along with his diminutive size -- rendered him unfit for military service during WWI; Goering, once a dashing flying ace, had descended into heroin addiction and became a hugely corpulent junky.

It's maby a little simplistic, but let's face it, racists are not complex people. The whole nasty business can be summed up in one word: overcompensation.