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*this all dates back to Bushs grandfather Prescott who was a fanatical admirer of Hitler

THE WAR ON TERROR:
ARE YOU FRIGHTENED YET?
By Henry Makow, PhD Rense.com

All wars are really secret attacks on humanity by the world financial
elite. The "War on Terror" is no exception. The recent media warnings of
terrorist attacks on trains and buses this summer can be seen in this context (1). The
financial elite is relatively small, cowardly and furtive. It needs us to
fight its battles. It needs us to destroy ourselves and to get further into debt.
(This is how it enslaves us.) War has always been a fraud designed to help
bring about a world police state. This is called the "new world order" a.k.a.
"globalism." War is used to transform society. Both World Wars resulted in
increased power for government and cartels, which the bankers run by proxy. Both
World Wars resulted in calls for their "world government."

We don't recognize this conspiracy because we are not used to thinking long
term. The gradual trans-fer of wealth and power to international finance has
been going on for at least 200 years. It involves a complete transformation of
humanity. This includes the destruction of race, religion, family and nation
and the embrace of money, sex and violence. This is the hidden agenda behind
almost everything that is happening in politics and culture today (2). Don't
count on professors, pundits and politicians to tell you this. They are sheep
dogs, trained and well fed. But, you say, we are still prosperous and relatively
free. The elite's first priority now is to suppress and secularize the Muslim
world ("democracy," "women's rights".) It needs us to do this dirty work. Our
"peace keepers" are really the bankers' enforcers.

They are using "Al Qaeda terror" as an excuse to erect a police state at
home. While they prattle about "human rights," the Constitution and Bill of
Rights are dismantled. We are becoming accustomed to "terror alerts" and
intrusions into our privacy. This new security monolith is designed to quell future
resistance to globalism. When they are finally ready to pull the plug, it will
keep us in line. In the meantime, they distract us with easy credit, trivia,
sex and sports.

TERROR IS USED TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE

If wars are used to transform society, terror is used to justify wars. The
bankers perpetrated the attack on the World Trade Center to justify the assault
on the Moslem world, and the "War on Terror." (3). Invaders always pretend
they are acting in self-defence. It's all unfolding according to an occult plan.
On Sept. 11, 1990, George Bush Sr. made his "Toward a New World Order" speech
at the UN. Eleven years later to the day, two planes smashed into the World
Trade Center. Terror is used to sway public opinion. Two weeks ago an Israeli
missile blasted the Hamas founder, Sheikh Yassin, a 68-year-old half-blind
Muslim Cleric out of his wheel chair. Ariel Sharon's purpose was to incite further
acts of indiscriminate terror against Israeli citizens. Ariel Sharon's policy
is to eventually move the Palestinians beyond the giant wall. In order to do
this, he must prepare the Israeli population for "transfer"(4).

In 2000, less than eight per cent of Jewish Israelis favoured this. In 2002,
that figure reached 44 per cent. Thanks to repeated suicide bombings, the
figure is certainly fast rising above fifty per cent. Hamas terror definitely
serves Sharon's purpose and that is why Israel has covertly supported Hamas for
years (5). Another example is the recent bombings in Spain two days before the
elections. The Spanish Prime Minister was holding up passage of the EU
Constitution. As a result of the carnage, he was defeated and replaced by a more
amenable stooge. As Steve Bonta points out in the latest issue of "The New
American," whenever terror takes place, ask, "Who benefits?" Did the Muslim world
benefit from Sept. 11? Would it benefit from indiscriminate acts of terror on
American soil?
(6)

WHAT CAN WE DO?

People often ask this and I answer, " If we form movements, they will
have us corralled and pick off the leaders. Think for yourself. Stop looking to
others for answers. They fear individual initiative more than anything." What
we don't do is just as important. The democratic system has been subverted and
now is mostly a form of social control. The bankers control both parties and
the means of mass persuasion. They frame the debate and the alternatives. So
obviously, we should not waste much energy participating in the democratic
process. The second thing is to stop watching TV. People are natural conformists.
TV defines reality. Its message is that politicians actually serve our
interests, and despite problems, everything is OK. (7)

The bankers' conspiracy exploits peoples' idealism, whether they are
Communists, socialists, Zionists, liberals, freemasons, feminists or neo
conservatives. As long as we live in a nominal democracy, we can't do much until more
people see the globalist agenda for what it really is. Educating ourselves is very
rewarding. I used to seek transcendence in meditation but to my surprise I
feel much more liberated since I learned how the world really works. In
conclusion, the "War on Terror," like all wars is a fraud designed to advance world
banker government by suppressing Islam and creating a police state at home.

:roll:



Do you even think for yourself?

Sorry, TRA, I'm not even going to try to help on this one...it's just too much. I would assist, but the forums run too slow for me to get a word in edgewise. Enjoy the imminent flamefest, and I'll be back with a really big fire extinguisher in a while.

*Runs like hell, screams periodically*

Sorry, TRA, I'm not even going to try to help on this one...it's just too much. I would assist, but the forums run too slow for me to get a word in edgewise. Enjoy the imminent flamefest, and I'll be back with a really big fire extinguisher in a while.

*Runs like hell, screams periodically*

LOL dont worry Im a fire sign :twisted:

Sorry, TRA, I'm not even going to try to help on this one...it's just too much. I would assist, but the forums run too slow for me to get a word in edgewise. Enjoy the imminent flamefest, and I'll be back with a really big fire extinguisher in a while.

*Runs like hell, screams periodically*

LOL dont worry Im a fire sign :twisted:


You're a puppet of Moveon.org.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030214.html

This article gives the myth more credit than it deserves, but comes to the same conclusion as any normal person anyway.

dude this hasnt got crap to do with nationstates....if you need someplace to spam people with your political opinion look elsewhere. nobody here cares....

dude this hasnt got crap to do with nationstates....if you need someplace to spam people with your political opinion look elsewhere. nobody here cares....
yes...there's no politics discussed here....at nationstates... :roll:

dude this hasnt got crap to do with nationstates....if you need someplace to spam people with your political opinion look elsewhere. nobody here cares....

Bush is going to end the world and of course conservatives dont wanna talk about it

dude this hasnt got crap to do with nationstates....if you need someplace to spam people with your political opinion look elsewhere. nobody here cares....

Bush is going to end the world and of course conservatives dont wanna talk about it



OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is there no end to your BS?!?!?!?!?

The Red Arrow: you are an idiot.

As a liberal, I hate you. I hate you beacuse you hang your small-minded feeble rants on to my cause, and drag us all down just a bit further.

Go away, and stop listening to rage against the machine to piss off mom and dad.

i dont really like u either. as a moderate something or other with socialist tendancies and that hates communism, id like to say that you put a bad name on liberals. actually, on humans. humanity would be a much better place if you werent in it. my solution is to send you out to space.

yes, that is my very intelligent rant of the day.

http://www.counterpunch.org/wasserman10062003.html

"George W. Bush's grandfather helped finance the Nazi Party. Karl Rove's grandfather allegedly helped run the Nazi Party, and helped build the Birkenau Death Camp. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Austrian father volunteered for the infamous Nazi SA and became a ranking officer"

:idea:

Since when is the son responsible for the sins of the father?

The Red Arrow: you are an idiot.

As a liberal, I hate you. I hate you beacuse you hang your small-minded feeble rants on to my cause, and drag us all down just a bit further.

Go away, and stop listening to rage against the machine to piss off mom and dad.

you hate me cause you have the strategy of a loser and not a fighter

i dont really like u either. as a moderate something or other with socialist tendancies and that hates communism, id like to say that you put a bad name on liberals. actually, on humans. humanity would be a much better place if you werent in it. my solution is to send you out to space.

yes, that is my very intelligent rant of the day.

Im fighting for what i believe in--whats your excuse? You give a bad name to humanity because your utterly useless waste of flesh

Red Arrow,

Did you just copy that piece of crap from this site: http://www.rense.com/general51/wann.htm?

*Can you say, Plagerism?*

Red Arrow,

Did you just copy that piece of crap from this site: http://www.rense.com/general51/wann.htm?

*Can you say, Plagerism?*

plagerism is a meaningless concept because we're all interconnected

Are you also aware that George H. W Bush (Bush #1) was a decorated WWII vet ?(fighter pilot, got shot down over the pacific), hardly the son of a neo-Nazi

Are you also aware that George H. W Bush (Bush #1) was a decorated WWII vet ?(fighter pilot, got shot down over the pacific), hardly the son of a neo-Nazi

On the History channel George H Bush admitted to jumping out of a plane without telling the other people in the plane with him leaving them to die

plagerism is a meaningless concept because we're all interconnected

What the hell does that mean? When someone works hard to put something together, they deserve the credit.

What you are doing is theft.

not only are your reasons for this ludicrous, you try to take peices of stupid information and piece them together to make a story. get your facts straight and stop jumping to conclusions..

Are you also aware that George H. W Bush (Bush #1) was a decorated WWII vet ?(fighter pilot, got shot down over the pacific), hardly the son of a neo-Nazi

On the History channel George H Bush admitted to jumping out of a plane without telling the other people in the plane with him leaving them to die


ummmm slick...he was a single seat fighter pilot...Corsair's I believe.

Are you also aware that George H. W Bush (Bush #1) was a decorated WWII vet ?(fighter pilot, got shot down over the pacific), hardly the son of a neo-Nazi

On the History channel George H Bush admitted to jumping out of a plane without telling the other people in the plane with him leaving them to die


ummmm slick...he was a single seat fighter pilot...Corsair's I believe.

you hate me cause you have the strategy of a loser and not a fighter

No, I hate you beacuse you have the strategy of a dullard who likes to live in a simplistic black-and-white universe where there are only good guys and bad guys, and we can never compromise or have a give-and-take discussion beacuse that means we are LOSING!

Hm. Sounds a lot like the mindset of a certain big-eared texan....

Are you also aware that George H. W Bush (Bush #1) was a decorated WWII vet ?(fighter pilot, got shot down over the pacific), hardly the son of a neo-Nazi

On the History channel George H Bush admitted to jumping out of a plane without telling the other people in the plane with him leaving them to die


ummmm slick...he was a single seat fighter pilot...Corsair's I believe.

Nope. He flew in TBM Avengers for VT-51 squadron.

plagerism is a meaningless concept because we're all interconnected

What the hell does that mean? When someone works hard to put something together, they deserve the credit.

What you are doing is theft.

not really since theres no such thing as an original thought

you hate me cause you have the strategy of a loser and not a fighter

No, I hate you beacuse you have the strategy of a dullard who likes to live in a simplistic black-and-white universe where there are only good guys and bad guys, and we can never compromise or have a give-and-take discussion beacuse that means we are LOSING!

Hm. Sounds a lot like the mindset of a certain big-eared texan....

you dont compromise with evil

I've got guns.

I don't care about my life.

So f@@@ing what?

I've got guns.

I don't care about my life.

So f@@@ing what?

dont you wanna be free?

you dont compromise with evil

aagh! you just proved my point! that sounds like something Bush would say! You're so closeminded and dogmatic that pesky things like reality don't matter, oh no, you have your cause and you are just sooo right and you have the answers to fucking everything, don't you?

people like you and Bush are the best arguments against democracy.

Red, I don't really care. I just don't care. No concern.

As long as I can live out my days in peace, I don't care if I'm being exploited by Communists or Capitalists, Democrats, Republicans, Nazis, etc. etc.

I just don't care.

And I said I have guns - so I'm not too worried about my freedoms.

you dont compromise with evil

aagh! you just proved my point! that sounds like something Bush would say! You're so closeminded and dogmatic that pesky things like reality don't matter, oh no, you have your cause and you are just sooo right and you have the answers to f--- everything, don't you?

people like you and Bush are the best arguments against democracy.

I am nothing like Bush and Ive never been closeminded on any issue under the sun--but I clearly know when something is wrong

Red, I don't really care. I just don't care. No concern.

As long as I can live out my days in peace, I don't care if I'm being exploited by Communists or Capitalists, Democrats, Republicans, Nazis, etc. etc.

I just don't care.

And I said I have guns - so I'm not too worried about my freedoms.

do you hunt for your own food?

HAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHA I AM SO MUCH COOLER THAN ALL OF U

If I need to, I certainly can. To boot, my Grandmother is a veritable plethora of knowledge concerning survival without modern trappings. She's taught me to make candles, soaps, how to pickle, can, etc. etc.

But my question is, why do you really care? If I don't, why should you?

Warning: Off-Topic

Red Arrow,

Did you just copy that piece of crap from this site: http://www.rense.com/general51/wann.htm?

*Can you say, Plagerism?*

Can you spell Plagiarism?

And it isn't, he at least tried to cite his source. Although I don't agree with his statement that plagiarism is meaningless "since we are all inter connected".

How, pray tell, can anyone be this much of a moron? Red Arrow should just stick this article up his ass, where it belongs.

plagerism is a meaningless concept because we're all interconnected

What the hell does that mean? When someone works hard to put something together, they deserve the credit.

What you are doing is theft.

not really since theres no such thing as an original thought

No, you are just incapable of an original thought. Huge difference.

Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I guess next you will tell me there is no such thing as grammar, spelling, and coherent thoughts.

If I need to, I certainly can. To boot, my Grandmother is a veritable plethora of knowledge concerning survival without modern trappings. She's taught me to make candles, soaps, how to pickle, can, etc. etc.

But my question is, why do you really care? If I don't, why should you?

I dont care--I dont know why I asked that LOL

How, pray tell, can anyone be this much of a moron? Red Arrow should just stick this article up his ass, where it belongs.

I wake up everyday asking myself how we can have such a moron as a President--hes doing everything in his power to encourage more terrorism

How, pray tell, can anyone be this much of a moron? Red Arrow should just stick this article up his ass, where it belongs.

I wake up everyday asking myself how we can have such a moron as a President--hes doing everything in his power to encourage more terrorism
Oh yes, the President is a Nazi who likes to eat children, rape little animals, and kill Americans. He's just plain 3vil!!!!1111!!!!1oneoneone! This kind of shit is just stupid. For your own sake, Red Arrow, just give it a rest already. It's not as if anyone on this forum is going to have some dramatic effect on American national policy anytime soon. You're just making yourself look bad. If you truly believe the bullshit in that 'article', I feel for you.

How, pray tell, can anyone be this much of a moron? Red Arrow should just stick this article up his ass, where it belongs.

I wake up everyday asking myself how we can have such a moron as a President--hes doing everything in his power to encourage more terrorism
Oh yes, the President is a Nazi who likes to eat children, rape little animals, and kill Americans. He's just plain 3vil!!!!1111!!!!1oneoneone! This kind of shit is just stupid. For your own sake, Red Arrow, just give it a rest already. It's not as if anyone on this forum is going to have some dramatic effect on American national policy anytime soon. You're just making yourself look bad. If you truly believe the bullshit in that 'article', I feel for you.

if you look at Bushs position on every single issue under the sun and the kind of people he appoints to things I want you to tell me how he is NOT evil cause if thats not evil I dont know what is

*this all dates back to Bushs grandfather Prescott who was a fanatical admirer of Hitler

THE WAR ON TERROR:
ARE YOU FRIGHTENED YET?
By Henry Makow, PhD Rense.com

All wars are really secret attacks on humanity by the world financial
elite. The "War on Terror" is no exception. The recent media warnings of
terrorist attacks on trains and buses this summer can be seen in this context (1). The
financial elite is relatively small, cowardly and furtive. It needs us to
fight its battles. It needs us to destroy ourselves and to get further into debt.
(This is how it enslaves us.) War has always been a fraud designed to help
bring about a world police state. This is called the "new world order" a.k.a.
"globalism." War is used to transform society. Both World Wars resulted in
increased power for government and cartels, which the bankers run by proxy. Both
World Wars resulted in calls for their "world government."

We don't recognize this conspiracy because we are not used to thinking long
term. The gradual trans-fer of wealth and power to international finance has
been going on for at least 200 years. It involves a complete transformation of
humanity. This includes the destruction of race, religion, family and nation
and the embrace of money, sex and violence. This is the hidden agenda behind
almost everything that is happening in politics and culture today (2). Don't
count on professors, pundits and politicians to tell you this. They are sheep
dogs, trained and well fed. But, you say, we are still prosperous and relatively
free. The elite's first priority now is to suppress and secularize the Muslim
world ("democracy," "women's rights".) It needs us to do this dirty work. Our
"peace keepers" are really the bankers' enforcers.

They are using "Al Qaeda terror" as an excuse to erect a police state at
home. While they prattle about "human rights," the Constitution and Bill of
Rights are dismantled. We are becoming accustomed to "terror alerts" and
intrusions into our privacy. This new security monolith is designed to quell future
resistance to globalism. When they are finally ready to pull the plug, it will
keep us in line. In the meantime, they distract us with easy credit, trivia,
sex and sports.

TERROR IS USED TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE

If wars are used to transform society, terror is used to justify wars. The
bankers perpetrated the attack on the World Trade Center to justify the assault
on the Moslem world, and the "War on Terror." (3). Invaders always pretend
they are acting in self-defence. It's all unfolding according to an occult plan.
On Sept. 11, 1990, George Bush Sr. made his "Toward a New World Order" speech
at the UN. Eleven years later to the day, two planes smashed into the World
Trade Center. Terror is used to sway public opinion. Two weeks ago an Israeli
missile blasted the Hamas founder, Sheikh Yassin, a 68-year-old half-blind
Muslim Cleric out of his wheel chair. Ariel Sharon's purpose was to incite further
acts of indiscriminate terror against Israeli citizens. Ariel Sharon's policy
is to eventually move the Palestinians beyond the giant wall. In order to do
this, he must prepare the Israeli population for "transfer"(4).

In 2000, less than eight per cent of Jewish Israelis favoured this. In 2002,
that figure reached 44 per cent. Thanks to repeated suicide bombings, the
figure is certainly fast rising above fifty per cent. Hamas terror definitely
serves Sharon's purpose and that is why Israel has covertly supported Hamas for
years (5). Another example is the recent bombings in Spain two days before the
elections. The Spanish Prime Minister was holding up passage of the EU
Constitution. As a result of the carnage, he was defeated and replaced by a more
amenable stooge. As Steve Bonta points out in the latest issue of "The New
American," whenever terror takes place, ask, "Who benefits?" Did the Muslim world
benefit from Sept. 11? Would it benefit from indiscriminate acts of terror on
American soil?
(6)

WHAT CAN WE DO?

People often ask this and I answer, " If we form movements, they will
have us corralled and pick off the leaders. Think for yourself. Stop looking to
others for answers. They fear individual initiative more than anything." What
we don't do is just as important. The democratic system has been subverted and
now is mostly a form of social control. The bankers control both parties and
the means of mass persuasion. They frame the debate and the alternatives. So
obviously, we should not waste much energy participating in the democratic
process. The second thing is to stop watching TV. People are natural conformists.
TV defines reality. Its message is that politicians actually serve our
interests, and despite problems, everything is OK. (7)

The bankers' conspiracy exploits peoples' idealism, whether they are
Communists, socialists, Zionists, liberals, freemasons, feminists or neo
conservatives. As long as we live in a nominal democracy, we can't do much until more
people see the globalist agenda for what it really is. Educating ourselves is very
rewarding. I used to seek transcendence in meditation but to my surprise I
feel much more liberated since I learned how the world really works. In
conclusion, the "War on Terror," like all wars is a fraud designed to advance world
banker government by suppressing Islam and creating a police state at home.

What a moron. How anyone can believe this paranoid verbiage is unreal. The left has been hijacked by nuts and crazies. Kerry probably believes this stuff too.

And for your information, JFK's father was anti-British and pro-German when ambassador to the UK in the 30's. He had positive things to say about Hitler too. Did that make JFK a nazi? No.

*this all dates back to Bushs grandfather Prescott who was a fanatical admirer of Hitler

THE WAR ON TERROR:
ARE YOU FRIGHTENED YET?
By Henry Makow, PhD Rense.com

All wars are really secret attacks on humanity by the world financial
elite. The "War on Terror" is no exception. The recent media warnings of
terrorist attacks on trains and buses this summer can be seen in this context (1). The
financial elite is relatively small, cowardly and furtive. It needs us to
fight its battles. It needs us to destroy ourselves and to get further into debt.
(This is how it enslaves us.) War has always been a fraud designed to help
bring about a world police state. This is called the "new world order" a.k.a.
"globalism." War is used to transform society. Both World Wars resulted in
increased power for government and cartels, which the bankers run by proxy. Both
World Wars resulted in calls for their "world government."

We don't recognize this conspiracy because we are not used to thinking long
term. The gradual trans-fer of wealth and power to international finance has
been going on for at least 200 years. It involves a complete transformation of
humanity. This includes the destruction of race, religion, family and nation
and the embrace of money, sex and violence. This is the hidden agenda behind
almost everything that is happening in politics and culture today (2). Don't
count on professors, pundits and politicians to tell you this. They are sheep
dogs, trained and well fed. But, you say, we are still prosperous and relatively
free. The elite's first priority now is to suppress and secularize the Muslim
world ("democracy," "women's rights".) It needs us to do this dirty work. Our
"peace keepers" are really the bankers' enforcers.

They are using "Al Qaeda terror" as an excuse to erect a police state at
home. While they prattle about "human rights," the Constitution and Bill of
Rights are dismantled. We are becoming accustomed to "terror alerts" and
intrusions into our privacy. This new security monolith is designed to quell future
resistance to globalism. When they are finally ready to pull the plug, it will
keep us in line. In the meantime, they distract us with easy credit, trivia,
sex and sports.

TERROR IS USED TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE

If wars are used to transform society, terror is used to justify wars. The
bankers perpetrated the attack on the World Trade Center to justify the assault
on the Moslem world, and the "War on Terror." (3). Invaders always pretend
they are acting in self-defence. It's all unfolding according to an occult plan.
On Sept. 11, 1990, George Bush Sr. made his "Toward a New World Order" speech
at the UN. Eleven years later to the day, two planes smashed into the World
Trade Center. Terror is used to sway public opinion. Two weeks ago an Israeli
missile blasted the Hamas founder, Sheikh Yassin, a 68-year-old half-blind
Muslim Cleric out of his wheel chair. Ariel Sharon's purpose was to incite further
acts of indiscriminate terror against Israeli citizens. Ariel Sharon's policy
is to eventually move the Palestinians beyond the giant wall. In order to do
this, he must prepare the Israeli population for "transfer"(4).

In 2000, less than eight per cent of Jewish Israelis favoured this. In 2002,
that figure reached 44 per cent. Thanks to repeated suicide bombings, the
figure is certainly fast rising above fifty per cent. Hamas terror definitely
serves Sharon's purpose and that is why Israel has covertly supported Hamas for
years (5). Another example is the recent bombings in Spain two days before the
elections. The Spanish Prime Minister was holding up passage of the EU
Constitution. As a result of the carnage, he was defeated and replaced by a more
amenable stooge. As Steve Bonta points out in the latest issue of "The New
American," whenever terror takes place, ask, "Who benefits?" Did the Muslim world
benefit from Sept. 11? Would it benefit from indiscriminate acts of terror on
American soil?
(6)

WHAT CAN WE DO?

People often ask this and I answer, " If we form movements, they will
have us corralled and pick off the leaders. Think for yourself. Stop looking to
others for answers. They fear individual initiative more than anything." What
we don't do is just as important. The democratic system has been subverted and
now is mostly a form of social control. The bankers control both parties and
the means of mass persuasion. They frame the debate and the alternatives. So
obviously, we should not waste much energy participating in the democratic
process. The second thing is to stop watching TV. People are natural conformists.
TV defines reality. Its message is that politicians actually serve our
interests, and despite problems, everything is OK. (7)

The bankers' conspiracy exploits peoples' idealism, whether they are
Communists, socialists, Zionists, liberals, freemasons, feminists or neo
conservatives. As long as we live in a nominal democracy, we can't do much until more
people see the globalist agenda for what it really is. Educating ourselves is very
rewarding. I used to seek transcendence in meditation but to my surprise I
feel much more liberated since I learned how the world really works. In
conclusion, the "War on Terror," like all wars is a fraud designed to advance world
banker government by suppressing Islam and creating a police state at home.

What a moron. How anyone can believe this paranoid verbiage is unreal. The left has been hijacked by nuts and crazies. Kerry probably believes this stuff too.

And for your information, JFK's father was anti-British and pro-German when ambassador to the UK in the 30's. He had positive things to say about Hitler too. Did that make JFK a nazi? No.

the father of all terrorism sits in the White House today--the left has a moral obligation to be up in arms

the father of all terrorism sits in the White House today--the left has a moral obligation to be up in arms
Bush is the father of all terrorism? Jesus Christ, if you believe that, you have to be one of the biggest fucking morons on the internet. That is quite an accomplishment, Red Arrow. As for Bush having evil policies, uhh, have you any proof of that OTHER than your circular logic? You just like to spout bullshit. I'd guess that over the past 2 weeks, you've made dozens of threads detailing the INCREDIBLE EVILS OF THE NAZI-BUSH-REPUBLICAN-ISRAELI-SPACE ALIEN ALLIANCE or whatever the hell you decide to bitch about.

I may not agree with Bush, but I do not believe that he is a Nazi. He believes that what he is doing is for the good of Americans, even if the result of his actions are anything but positive. His vision may be clouded, but he is by no means a Nazi.

Uh..., Whats wrong with neo-nazism?
i can see whats wrong with eating babies, but theres nothing wrong with nazis.

WTF is the point in all of you flaming him? It just shows that you read the bullshit he posted, which makes him think hes got at least one thing over you, because he made you look, and if you didn't, well, your arguments can't stand, really, because you don't know what he said in the first place.

Red Arrow is nothing but a case of the fu|cking hiccups

Get yourself a glass of water, try to drown them out
and don't comment when they suddenly interrupt your conversation

If you ignore them long enough, they'll go away.

Everyone fu|cking hates the hiccups

I may not agree with Bush, but I do not believe that he is a Nazi. He believes that what he is doing is for the good of Americans, even if the result of his actions are anything but positive. His vision may be clouded, but he is by no means a Nazi.

I disagree-he is clearly a nazi and could care less about whats best for america--he wants corporate facism and everything he does confirms this

While it raises some good points, I'm not at all surprised to see that TRA has NOT posted their opinion with the C&P text yet again. It does, even if it's terribly biased, point out some of the obvious intentions with terrorism and how it can be used to favour the current admin's hidden agenda at the cost of lives.

OK, TRA, I thought you couldn't go lower. I was wrong.

It seems that (to you at least) any piece of ultraleftist propaganda you hear is instantly fact. That's a dangerous way to go through life.

I'm not going to get into this. I'm just saying you need to show some restraint.

Sorry, TRA, I'm not even going to try to help on this one...it's just too much. I would assist, but the forums run too slow for me to get a word in edgewise. Enjoy the imminent flamefest, and I'll be back with a really big fire extinguisher in a while.

*Runs like hell, screams periodically*

LOL dont worry Im a fire sign :twisted:


You're a puppet of Moveon.org.

Um, no. Rense.com is mainly a bunch of super-nutball conspiracy theorists. Also, a fair amount of material there is anti-zionist to the point where it borders on being anti-semitic.

... I fail to see how it's at all comparable to Moveon.org.

Yeah, man- moveon.org is nowhere NEAR as fucking insane as Red Arrow.

Yeah, man- moveon.org is nowhere NEAR as f--- insane as Red Arrow.

LOL its obvious none of you know what Im like in real life :lol:

Yeah, man- moveon.org is nowhere NEAR as f--- insane as Red Arrow.

LOL its obvious none of you know what Im like in real life :lol:

I don't pretend to. Obviously I can only speak about you as represented through your behavior here.

That said, the current data doesn't seem to reflect particularly well on you. So unless you're purposefully pretending to be a douche... well, let's just say I don't think we'd get along very well.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_election_horsemen.jpg
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, man- moveon.org is nowhere NEAR as f--- insane as Red Arrow.

LOL its obvious none of you know what Im like in real life :lol:

I don't pretend to. Obviously I can only speak about you as represented through your behavior here.

That said, the current data doesn't seem to reflect particularly well on you. So unless you're purposefully pretending to be a douche... well, let's just say I don't think we'd get along very well.

maybe Im "purposely being a douche" to WAKE PEOPLE THE FREAK UP?

bs

Yeah, man- moveon.org is nowhere NEAR as f--- insane as Red Arrow.

LOL its obvious none of you know what Im like in real life :lol:

I don't pretend to. Obviously I can only speak about you as represented through your behavior here.

That said, the current data doesn't seem to reflect particularly well on you. So unless you're purposefully pretending to be a douche... well, let's just say I don't think we'd get along very well.

maybe Im "purposely being a douche" to WAKE PEOPLE THE FREAK UP?

Oh, wow, well done. You've done a fantastic job of... oh, wait, all you've done is get a bunch of people mad AT YOU. Not Bush.

Well, I guess the only thing left to do is keep trying- that seems to be your general strategy, anyways. I mean, hey, with your current track record, why stop?

Yeah, man- moveon.org is nowhere NEAR as f--- insane as Red Arrow.

LOL its obvious none of you know what Im like in real life :lol:

I don't pretend to. Obviously I can only speak about you as represented through your behavior here.

That said, the current data doesn't seem to reflect particularly well on you. So unless you're purposefully pretending to be a douche... well, let's just say I don't think we'd get along very well.

maybe Im "purposely being a douche" to WAKE PEOPLE THE FREAK UP?

Oh, wow, well done. You've done a fantastic job of... oh, wait, all you've done is get a bunch of people mad AT YOU. Not Bush.

Well, I guess the only thing left to do is keep trying- that seems to be your general strategy, anyways. I mean, hey, with your current track record, why stop?

anger is key to waking people up--if they wanna blame me so be it--but at least theyll be shaken out of their stupor and start connecting the dots

No one needs you to wake them up. Who appointed you some kind of savior?

You have your opinions, fine. No matter how half assed and hypocritical they are, you have the right and you are free to express them. Just don't get some goddamned self righteous attitude about it and expect us to fall over ourselves thanking you for cut'n'pasting some else's work.

No one needs you to wake them up. Who appointed you some kind of savior?

You have your opinions, fine. No matter how half assed and hypocritical they are, you have the right and you are free to express them. Just don't get some goddamned self righteous attitude about it and expect us to fall over ourselves thanking you for cut'n'pasting some else's work.

The messages I post have nothing to do with me at all or who I am in the real world--if I could post things with my name being invisible I would do that--if your focusing on me insted of what Im saying then your missing the point

hahahahaha, i looked at the title, laughed, and read no more

You made it about yourself. You just keep telling us how you want to wake us up, but you never discuss the articles you plagerize. Its impossible to decipher your point half the time.

Do you ever read what you post? Why not offer a summary and a detailed opinion after each cut'n'paste? Let us know you are more than just some kid screaming for attention. How about skip all the drama and break out some rational thought?

You know TRA, if for example you put together an argument that the religious far right political culture in the US is gradually moulding it into a constitutional theocracy, a Christian counterpart of Iran, I would respect you. Because an argument like that (1) enjoys some validity, and (2) takes some sort of mastery of politics to put forward.

Alas, you persist with this Nazi stuff. I really think you need to calm down and think this through. You copy and paste the same things time and time again, and your limited commentary on each article shows that you do not recognise the differences between National Socialism and Fascism, the differences between corporate and nationalist influences on the current US administration, and hence what the Project for a New American Century is really all about. Which is pretty damaging considering that these things are at the centre of what you are trying to convey.

I hate to be cruel, but you have become a figure of fun. Your inept handling of the facts has probably caused even the anarcho-communists in this forum to cringe or roll their eyes every time you create a thread. Please, by all means read, but read widely, and when you have an argument to make, write it yourself, building on what you have read, don't just reproduce some conspiracy theory and append an even more sensationalist comment. And when challenged, grab what ammunition you have and stand your ground, don't make some trivial comments and run away to create a new thread. If you can argue one topic for 10 pages, you will have a lot more respect than if you start 10 threads which die after a page.

What I am saying is, you need a radical change of approach here. Because this is getting ridiculous. "Bush promotes terrorism to advance neo-nazism" is just the pinnacle.

You know TRA, if for example you put together an argument that the religious far right political culture in the US is gradually moulding it into a constitutional theocracy, a Christian counterpart of Iran, I would respect you. Because an argument like that (1) enjoys some validity, and (2) takes some sort of mastery of politics to put forward.

Alas, you persist with this Nazi stuff. I really think you need to calm down and think this through. You copy and paste the same things time and time again, and your limited commentary on each article shows that you do not recognise the differences between National Socialism and Fascism, the differences between corporate and nationalist influences on the current US administration, and hence what the Project for a New American Century is really all about. Which is pretty damaging considering that these things are at the centre of what you are trying to convey.

I hate to be cruel, but you have become a figure of fun. Your inept handling of the facts has probably caused even the anarcho-communists in this forum to cringe or roll their eyes every time you create a thread. Please, by all means read, but read widely, and when you have an argument to make, write it yourself, building on what you have read, don't just reproduce some conspiracy theory and append an even more sensationalist comment. And when challenged, grab what ammunition you have and stand your ground, don't make some trivial comments and run away to create a new thread. If you can argue one topic for 10 pages, you will have a lot more respect than if you start 10 threads which die after a page.

What I am saying is, you need a radical change of approach here. Because this is getting ridiculous. "Bush promotes terrorism to advance neo-nazism" is just the pinnacle.


Yeah, he's pretty much right. You're a laughingstock, and your total ignorance of what nazisim/fascisim is, as well as your lack of anything approaching reality in your jumbled ramblings only hurts the message you are trying to get across.

Yeah, I don't like Bush, but when you throw insane crap like this out it takes a little bit of credibility away from everybody that argues against him and his administration.

http://www.counterpunch.org/wasserman10062003.html

Bush, Rove and Schwarzenegger are all nazis: TRA is correct!

Bush's grandfathers created Hitler the same way his dad created Saddam and Osama and he is creating our next "enemy"

Rove's grandfather was a political consultant for the Nazi party

Schwarzenegger's father volunteered to serve in the SA and committed war crimes, Schwarzenegger himself is on the record saying he "admired Hitler"

http://www.counterpunch.org/wasserman10062003.html

Bush, Rove and Schwarzenegger are all nazis: TRA is correct!

Bush's grandfathers created Hitler the same way his dad created Saddam and Osama and he is creating our next "enemy"

Rove's grandfather was a political consultant for the Nazi party

Schwarzenegger's father volunteered to serve in the SA and committed war crimes, Schwarzenegger himself is on the record saying he "admired Hitler"


.....idiot.

.....idiot.

why do you resort to name-calling when confronted with the truth?

I don't.

.....idiot.

why do you resort to name-calling when confronted with the truth?

Because, the actions of one's parents (be the actions true or fabricated) do not define the next generation. My dad's an alcoholic, but that doesn't make me an alcoholic.

Because, the actions of one's parents (be the actions true or fabricated) do not define the next generation. My dad's an alcoholic, but that doesn't make me an alcoholic.

Then Bush and Rove all should denounce their fathers!

No one needs you to wake them up. Who appointed you some kind of savior?

You have your opinions, fine. No matter how half assed and hypocritical they are, you have the right and you are free to express them. Just don't get some goddamned self righteous attitude about it and expect us to fall over ourselves thanking you for cut'n'pasting some else's work.

The messages I post have nothing to do with me at all or who I am in the real world--if I could post things with my name being invisible I would do that--if your focusing on me insted of what Im saying then your missing the point

But YOUR behavior is causing the MAJORITY of people who read your crap to do just that. You aren't helping your cause. You're only further cementing conservatives' biases against liberals, and making the real liberals here extremely uncomfortable to be associated with you.

This isn't about you "helping" anybody. This is about you and your ego. Get off your fuck-ing high horse.

http://www.counterpunch.org/wasserman10062003.html

Bush, Rove and Schwarzenegger are all nazis: TRA is correct!

Bush's grandfathers created Hitler the same way his dad created Saddam and Osama and he is creating our next "enemy"

Rove's grandfather was a political consultant for the Nazi party

Schwarzenegger's father volunteered to serve in the SA and committed war crimes, Schwarzenegger himself is on the record saying he "admired Hitler"

Actually, Arnold's father was CLEARED of war crimes.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/09/1062902053867.html?from=storyrhs

But records in Austria, Germany and the US do not implicate the elder Schwarzenegger or his SA unit 521 in wartime atrocities, said Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of the Wiesenthal Centre, on Monday.

Don't feel bad, though. "Guilty of" and "Cleared of" are very close phoentically, after all. :roll:

Actually, Arnold's father was CLEARED of war crimes.


So, Schwarzenegger financed an investigation that found his father innocent ... what a shocker!

Doesn't change the fact that he "admires Hitler."

But YOUR behavior is causing the MAJORITY of people who read your crap to do just that. You aren't helping your cause. You're only further cementing conservatives' biases against liberals, and making the real liberals here extremely uncomfortable to be associated with you.


Conservative
Liberal

what do you mean by these terms?

Is a "conservative" to you anyone who believes Bush is good and a "liberal" anyone who thinks otherwise?

Could a "conservative" dispise Bush? Could Bush be a "liberal"?

The fact is the TRA is putting a lot of uncomfortable information out there and you are treating it as a personal attack!

Because, the actions of one's parents (be the actions true or fabricated) do not define the next generation. My dad's an alcoholic, but that doesn't make me an alcoholic.

Then Bush and Rove all should denounce their fathers!

Unless they were members of the Nazi Party, there's NO reason to do anything. All it will do is draw more unnecessary media to that issue (like the Michael Jackson story) which in the scope of things is pointless.

Hey- suprise suprise, back in the 30's Hitler hadn't been promoted to "satan junior" yet, and a lot of people admired him on some level. Why? not beacuse they were nazis, but beacuse all the propaganda spewing out of germany gave the regime a really good face to the world.

In the 1930's in america, a lot of right-wingers admired Hitler, and a lot of left-wingers admired Stalin, and they were all so naive that they belived the propaganda of those regimes.

You know TRA, if for example you put together an argument that the religious far right political culture in the US is gradually moulding it into a constitutional theocracy, a Christian counterpart of Iran, I would respect you. Because an argument like that (1) enjoys some validity, and (2) takes some sort of mastery of politics to put forward.

Alas, you persist with this Nazi stuff. I really think you need to calm down and think this through. You copy and paste the same things time and time again, and your limited commentary on each article shows that you do not recognise the differences between National Socialism and Fascism, the differences between corporate and nationalist influences on the current US administration, and hence what the Project for a New American Century is really all about. Which is pretty damaging considering that these things are at the centre of what you are trying to convey.

I hate to be cruel, but you have become a figure of fun. Your inept handling of the facts has probably caused even the anarcho-communists in this forum to cringe or roll their eyes every time you create a thread. Please, by all means read, but read widely, and when you have an argument to make, write it yourself, building on what you have read, don't just reproduce some conspiracy theory and append an even more sensationalist comment. And when challenged, grab what ammunition you have and stand your ground, don't make some trivial comments and run away to create a new thread. If you can argue one topic for 10 pages, you will have a lot more respect than if you start 10 threads which die after a page.

What I am saying is, you need a radical change of approach here. Because this is getting ridiculous. "Bush promotes terrorism to advance neo-nazism" is just the pinnacle.

But the Bush familys links to nazism is common knowledge--its discussed all over the internet. There are even websites devoted to the Bush familys close ties to Hitler--thats why I wasnt surprized hearing about Bushs business dealings with Osama considering the dark history of the Bush family dating back 200 years in America when they sold soldiers in the civil war inadequate munitions--in what way is Bush the unelected orwellian dictator NOT a nazi? He even subverts free elections in America and wages illegal wars based on lies--the only thing thats missing are the concentration camps--but Im sure those are next

http://www.counterpunch.org/wasserman10062003.html

Bush, Rove and Schwarzenegger are all nazis: TRA is correct!

Bush's grandfathers created Hitler the same way his dad created Saddam and Osama and he is creating our next "enemy"

Rove's grandfather was a political consultant for the Nazi party

Schwarzenegger's father volunteered to serve in the SA and committed war crimes, Schwarzenegger himself is on the record saying he "admired Hitler"


.....idiot.

see what I have to put up with texastambul? :roll:

.....idiot.

why do you resort to name-calling when confronted with the truth?

Because, the actions of one's parents (be the actions true or fabricated) do not define the next generation. My dad's an alcoholic, but that doesn't make me an alcoholic.

But in the cases of the Bushs theres not ONE thats ever been good

No one needs you to wake them up. Who appointed you some kind of savior?

You have your opinions, fine. No matter how half assed and hypocritical they are, you have the right and you are free to express them. Just don't get some goddamned self righteous attitude about it and expect us to fall over ourselves thanking you for cut'n'pasting some else's work.

The messages I post have nothing to do with me at all or who I am in the real world--if I could post things with my name being invisible I would do that--if your focusing on me insted of what Im saying then your missing the point

But YOUR behavior is causing the MAJORITY of people who read your crap to do just that. You aren't helping your cause. You're only further cementing conservatives' biases against liberals, and making the real liberals here extremely uncomfortable to be associated with you.

This isn't about you "helping" anybody. This is about you and your ego. Get off your f----ing high horse.

Im here to fight the enemies of the people--im not an effigy

.....idiot.

why do you resort to name-calling when confronted with the truth?

Because, the actions of one's parents (be the actions true or fabricated) do not define the next generation. My dad's an alcoholic, but that doesn't make me an alcoholic.

But in the cases of the Bushs theres not ONE thats ever been good
That is not reason to tar him with their reputations (especially when you don't need to). Do you know every single member of the Bush family?

But YOUR behavior is causing the MAJORITY of people who read your crap to do just that. You aren't helping your cause. You're only further cementing conservatives' biases against liberals, and making the real liberals here extremely uncomfortable to be associated with you.


Conservative
Liberal

what do you mean by these terms?

Is a "conservative" to you anyone who believes Bush is good and a "liberal" anyone who thinks otherwise?

Could a "conservative" dispise Bush? Could Bush be a "liberal"?

The fact is the TRA is putting a lot of uncomfortable information out there and you are treating it as a personal attack!

I notise that people always treat unconfortable truths as some kind of personal assault. Its like the closer you get to the truth the more they treat you like Jesus

.....idiot.

why do you resort to name-calling when confronted with the truth?

Because, the actions of one's parents (be the actions true or fabricated) do not define the next generation. My dad's an alcoholic, but that doesn't make me an alcoholic.

But in the cases of the Bushs theres not ONE thats ever been good
That is not reason to tar him with their reputations (especially when you don't need to). Do you know every single member of the Bush family?

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

Warning: Off-Topic

Red Arrow,

Did you just copy that piece of crap from this site: http://www.rense.com/general51/wann.htm?

*Can you say, Plagerism?*

Can you spell Plagiarism?

And it isn't, he at least tried to cite his source. Although I don't agree with his statement that plagiarism is meaningless "since we are all inter connected".
actually unless he had written permission from them he is screwed. citeing or not they state (check their disclaimer) that nothing from their site is to be reproduced without written consent. link is here. http://www.rense.com/disclaimer.htm and posting it to a message board does NOT constitute fair use.

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

Because not all politicians are parasites :roll:

How many Bushes have been in power?

I notise that people always treat unconfortable truths as some kind of personal assault. Its like the closer you get to the truth the more they treat you like Jesus

See, this is the exact kind of thing that people are talking about, the unfounded allegations of the Bush families ties to Nazi-ism, neo or any other kind, aside. They're not responding to the accusations, but to the blatantly unsupported quality of the accusations. If you're going to make big claims, you had better be able to back it up with big proof. If you can't, then you risk not only convincing the other side of their correctness, but demoralizing your own side and fracturing a valuable support base. Then responding like this, in a very immature way, using a "Well, they started it," or "You're all stupid and I'm right," ever further erodes your credibility. You may be right. Bush may be a neo-Nazi. But part of getting people to pay attention to what you have to say is getting the to see you as a rational, informed and intelligent source of information. So far, you seem to be hell-bent on damaging not only your reputation, but the reputations of the very issues you are trying to promote. Just think about it.

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

As opposed to the politicians who don't act like parasites?

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

Because not all politicians are parasites :roll:

How many Bushes have been in power?

I know their not all parasites but all politicians with links to the Bush family crime syndicate are--three Bushs have been in power and all were and are morally depraved

I notise that people always treat unconfortable truths as some kind of personal assault. Its like the closer you get to the truth the more they treat you like Jesus

See, this is the exact kind of thing that people are talking about, the unfounded allegations of the Bush families ties to Nazi-ism, neo or any other kind, aside. They're not responding to the accusations, but to the blatantly unsupported quality of the accusations. If you're going to make big claims, you had better be able to back it up with big proof. If you can't, then you risk not only convincing the other side of their correctness, but demoralizing your own side and fracturing a valuable support base. Then responding like this, in a very immature way, using a "Well, they started it," or "You're all stupid and I'm right," ever further erodes your credibility. You may be right. Bush may be a neo-Nazi. But part of getting people to pay attention to what you have to say is getting the to see you as a rational, informed and intelligent source of information. So far, you seem to be hell-bent on damaging not only your reputation, but the reputations of the very issues you are trying to promote. Just think about it.

ok

How many Bushes have been in power?

I know their not all parasites but all politicians with links to the Bush family crime syndicate are--three Bushs have been in power and all were and are morally depraved[/quote]

I was being sarcastic. [being explicit]All politicians are parasites[/being explicit]

Moral is a subjective term.

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

As opposed to the politicians who don't act like parasites?

correct

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

As opposed to the politicians who don't act like parasites?

correct

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

I lernt my style from the cut throat political battles that rage in aol chatrooms

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

every Bush that has ever been in power has acted like a parasite

Because not all politicians are parasites :roll:

How many Bushes have been in power?

If you want to go by relations; several!

He is related to Washington! :shock:

Because not all politicians are parasites

An anarchist like you should know better.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/terrapvlchra/images/steatopygia.jpg

Because not all politicians are parasites

An anarchist like you should know better.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/terrapvlchra/images/steatopygia.jpg

well ok theyre all parasites but some of the parasites are good

Because not all politicians are parasites

An anarchist like you should know better.


Was that to me? If so, you didn't read a few post below.

I was being sarcastic. [being explicit]All politicians are parasites[/being explicit]

Sorry, I know I'm not the clearest writer in the world.

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

I lernt my style from the cut throat political battles that rage in aol chatrooms

Thank you, thank you so very much.

There is a fine line between genius and batshit insane. I don't know if you've crossed that line, but you have certainly made me smile.

Thank you, sir, a thousand times thank you.

well ok theyre all parasites but some of the parasites are good

That is pretty much the opposite of what a parasite is. It has to be detrimental to its host.

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

Bush promotes terrorism to advance neo-nazism

:lol: I must have missed this one. This has to be one of your best, TRA.

Because not all politicians are parasites

An anarchist like you should know better.

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"But by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality."
Free your mind! (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html)
I like big butts!

http://www.angelfire.com/mo3/terrapvlchra/images/steatopygia.jpg
More of this anarchy stuff eh? Silly children.
A likely profile of Letila: A 13 year-old girl from the suburbs of a Western US city that likes to discuss the evils of corporatism and the big bad gov't with her middle school girlfriends in an effort to satisfy her intellectual vanity. She rejects persons such as Britney Spears and the evil Bush, but embraces all-knowing punk bands such as "Anti-Flag" and "The Sex Pistols", who espouse bringing down the government and corporations while at the same time reaping their benefits.

I find it very ironic that the same posters on here that claim that Bush lets Israeli intrests dictate US policy are the same posters calling Bush a neo-Nazi.

I find it very ironic that the same posters on here that claim that Bush lets Israeli intrests dictate US policy are the same posters calling Bush a neo-Nazi.

It makes more sense than one might think: Bush is using the military to destabalize the Arab World so his Administration can make profits off of the no-bid contracts they award themselves... at the same time, he is allowing Isreal to build-up its munitions: the Nazi goal is to provoke an all out war between Isreal and the Arab World - while the Zionist goal is to manipulate the Empire into fighting the Arab World for them.

I find it very ironic that the same posters on here that claim that Bush lets Israeli intrests dictate US policy are the same posters calling Bush a neo-Nazi.

It makes more sense than one might think: Bush is using the military to destabalize the Arab World so his Administration can make profits off of the no-bid contracts they award themselves... at the same time, he is allowing Isreal to build-up its munitions: the Nazi goal is to provoke an all out war between Isreal and the Arab World - while the Zionist goal is to manipulate the Empire into fighting the Arab World for them.
okay, if it did turn into an all ut war between Israel and the Arabs, I am sure Israel would kick their ass (they do have nukes). But with a Jew being #2 in the DoD, do you actually think the US would stay out of the conflict?

Remember Israel has already whipped the Arabs asses about a half dozen times.

Remember Israel has already whipped the Arabs asses about a half dozen times.

Gee.. I dunno ~ it was only a year ago that all of America was afraid of what Saddam might do with his nookular weapons!

Remember Israel has already whipped the Arabs asses about a half dozen times.

Gee.. I dunno ~ it was only a year ago that all of America was afraid of what Saddam might do with his nookular weapons!
As long as Pakistain (the only confirmed muslim country with nukes) stays out of the conflict, my money is on the Israelis.

I find it very ironic that the same posters on here that claim that Bush lets Israeli intrests dictate US policy are the same posters calling Bush a neo-Nazi.

It makes more sense than one might think: Bush is using the military to destabalize the Arab World so his Administration can make profits off of the no-bid contracts they award themselves... at the same time, he is allowing Isreal to build-up its munitions: the Nazi goal is to provoke an all out war between Isreal and the Arab World - while the Zionist goal is to manipulate the Empire into fighting the Arab World for them.

Uh, proof? Source? :roll:

I find it very ironic that the same posters on here that claim that Bush lets Israeli intrests dictate US policy are the same posters calling Bush a neo-Nazi.

It makes more sense than one might think: Bush is using the military to destabalize the Arab World so his Administration can make profits off of the no-bid contracts they award themselves... at the same time, he is allowing Isreal to build-up its munitions: the Nazi goal is to provoke an all out war between Isreal and the Arab World - while the Zionist goal is to manipulate the Empire into fighting the Arab World for them.

Uh, proof? Source? :roll:
Silly man, this is Texastambul, we all know that what issues from his mouth/fingers is nothing but the simple truth!

Uh, proof?
(Notice, I said Zionist and not Isreali)
Bush's war in Afghanistan and war in Iraq: increasingly harsh dialogue with Syria and Iran ~ Bush looking the other way while Pakastan proliferates Nuclear Weapons.

Uh, proof?
(Notice, I said Zionist and not Isreali)

I read what you said. You have yet to substiante it. Feel free.

Are you also aware that George H. W Bush (Bush #1) was a decorated WWII vet ?(fighter pilot, got shot down over the pacific), hardly the son of a neo-Nazi

I'm related to a radical Communist activist whose father was a Nazi sympathiser. What on earth would Bush's father's political beliefs have to do with his ability to fight in a war?

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

Bush promotes terrorism to advance neo-nazism

:lol: I must have missed this one. This has to be one of your best, TRA.

its the absolute truth--for those with eyes to see

Because not all politicians are parasites

An anarchist like you should know better.

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More of this anarchy stuff eh? Silly children.
A likely profile of Letila: A 13 year-old girl from the suburbs of a Western US city that likes to discuss the evils of corporatism and the big bad gov't with her middle school girlfriends in an effort to satisfy her intellectual vanity. She rejects persons such as Britney Spears and the evil Bush, but embraces all-knowing punk bands such as "Anti-Flag" and "The Sex Pistols", who espouse bringing down the government and corporations while at the same time reaping their benefits.

she sounds like a smart 13 year old girl to me

I notise that people always treat unconfortable truths as some kind of personal assault. Its like the closer you get to the truth the more they treat you like Jesus

See, this is the exact kind of thing that people are talking about, the unfounded allegations of the Bush families ties to Nazi-ism, neo or any other kind, aside. They're not responding to the accusations, but to the blatantly unsupported quality of the accusations. If you're going to make big claims, you had better be able to back it up with big proof. If you can't, then you risk not only convincing the other side of their correctness, but demoralizing your own side and fracturing a valuable support base. Then responding like this, in a very immature way, using a "Well, they started it," or "You're all stupid and I'm right," ever further erodes your credibility. You may be right. Bush may be a neo-Nazi. But part of getting people to pay attention to what you have to say is getting the to see you as a rational, informed and intelligent source of information. So far, you seem to be hell-bent on damaging not only your reputation, but the reputations of the very issues you are trying to promote. Just think about it.

actually the claims I made about Bush getting explicit warnings about 911 were true--If our best ally in the mideast (Israel) knew enuf details about 911 to even send mossad agents over to film the attack then whats Bushs excuse of "not knowing"?--also Bush/Cheneys refusal to testitfy before the 911 commission under oath is further proof that their murderous liars from hell

Im sorry red arrow but i have to laugh at this. Oh wow people are trying to take over the world by using tactics that take a few centuries what would be the point i mean no body can live that long yet i mean most people dont even make it to 100. I sware these conspiracy theories get crazier every time i read one. A few i would give credit to but this one is insane in my opinion. I have no idea if im conservative or liberal...some where in the middle i suppose but then agian every one says that.

I have to agree with a post earlier said since when is the son blamed for the wrongs of their fothers and forfothers heck im related to the Mudd guy who helped lincoln's assasin hide (though he didnt know it at the time) am i to blame for that? No.

I dont see how bush is going to destroy the world i think the rest of the world can do that on its own. send me a teligram if you want to comment cuase chances are im not gonna find this again. :roll:

Im sorry red arrow but i have to laugh at this. Oh wow people are trying to take over the world by using tactics that take a few centuries what would be the point i mean no body can live that long yet i mean most people dont even make it to 100. I sware these conspiracy theories get crazier every time i read one. A few i would give credit to but this one is insane in my opinion. I have no idea if im conservative or liberal...some where in the middle i suppose but then agian every one says that.

I have to agree with a post earlier said since when is the son blamed for the wrongs of their fothers and forfothers heck im related to the Mudd guy who helped lincoln's assasin hide (though he didnt know it at the time) am i to blame for that? No.

I dont see how bush is going to destroy the world i think the rest of the world can do that on its own. send me a teligram if you want to comment cuase chances are im not gonna find this again. :roll:

I cant point out your mistakes in a teligram because the server wont allow it

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

The title of this thread, for one example.

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

The title of this thread, for one example.

well Bush DOES promote terrorism because for him its a profitable business and the nazi part of the Bush family history is well documented and it can be reasonably argued that Bush is a corporate facist which is really just another form of nazism anyway so if you think about it a little more the title is really not that far off at all

Yeah, Bush is a neo-Nazi. That is why he supports the great nation of Israel and the Jews more than any other president. He supports the Jews because he's a Nazi.

Next time, come with actual facts, not conspiracy sites

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

The title of this thread, for one example.

well Bush DOES promote terrorism because for him its a profitable business and the nazi part of the Bush family history is well documented

His grandfather had business ties to the Nazis. That is not the same thing as being a Nazi, and it certainly does not make Bush a Nazi.

and it can be reasonably argued that Bush is a corporate facist which is really just another form of nazism anyway

Define corporate fascist, Red Arrow. Then define Nazism. Then actually attempt to argue your point. Simply saying, "this is like this is like this" doesn't count, sorry.

Also, being a fascist does not make one a neo-Nazi. You might want to look up that definition, too.

That is why he supports the great nation of Israel and the Jews more than any other president. He supports the Jews because he's a Nazi.

I would argue that there have been several American Presidents who supported Israel far more than Bush. Truman, Carter, Clinton all come to mind. Bush has basically declared the Israeli-Palestinian issue "not my problem".

... How supportive is that, really? :roll:

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

The title of this thread, for one example.

well Bush DOES promote terrorism because for him its a profitable business and the nazi part of the Bush family history is well documented

His grandfather had business ties to the Nazis. That is not the same thing as being a Nazi, and it certainly does not make Bush a Nazi.

and it can be reasonably argued that Bush is a corporate facist which is really just another form of nazism anyway

Define corporate fascist, Red Arrow. Then define Nazism. Then actually attempt to argue your point. Simply saying, "this is like this is like this" doesn't count, sorry.

Also, being a fascist does not make one a neo-Nazi. You might want to look up that definition, too.

That is why he supports the great nation of Israel and the Jews more than any other president. He supports the Jews because he's a Nazi.

I would argue that there have been several American Presidents who supported Israel far more than Bush. Truman, Carter, Clinton all come to mind. Bush has basically declared the Israeli-Palestinian issue "not my problem".

... How supportive is that, really? :roll:

I agree the fact that Bushs grandfather was a nazi sympathizer doesnt make his idiot grandson one--at least not in the traditional sense--but thats why Bush is a neo-nazi because of his globalist neo con agenda of corporate facism that threatens to enslave all the people of the world

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

The title of this thread, for one example.

well Bush DOES promote terrorism because for him its a profitable business and the nazi part of the Bush family history is well documented

His grandfather had business ties to the Nazis. That is not the same thing as being a Nazi, and it certainly does not make Bush a Nazi.

and it can be reasonably argued that Bush is a corporate facist which is really just another form of nazism anyway

Define corporate fascist, Red Arrow. Then define Nazism. Then actually attempt to argue your point. Simply saying, "this is like this is like this" doesn't count, sorry.

Also, being a fascist does not make one a neo-Nazi. You might want to look up that definition, too.

That is why he supports the great nation of Israel and the Jews more than any other president. He supports the Jews because he's a Nazi.

I would argue that there have been several American Presidents who supported Israel far more than Bush. Truman, Carter, Clinton all come to mind. Bush has basically declared the Israeli-Palestinian issue "not my problem".

... How supportive is that, really? :roll:

I agree the fact that Bushs grandfather was a nazi sympathizer doesnt make his idiot grandson one--at least not in the traditional sense--but thats why Bush is a neo-nazi because of his globalist neo con agenda of corporate facism that threatens to enslave all the people of the world

Red Arrow, what I was saying was, you need a change of style, man. :|

Red Arrow isn't the problem, the problem is with people who go out of their way to avoid the evidence and form thier opinions without researching first.

TRA ~ keep fighting the good fight!

Thanks Tex-Im a fighter (like you) so I will--in the political wars on aol people stay on the same side but in this forum people fight in unpredictable ways and have no loyaltys to their sides which confusmes me

My side is the "anti-bullshit" side.

You're not on it.

what did I say that was bullshit?

The title of this thread, for one example.

well Bush DOES promote terrorism because for him its a profitable business and the nazi part of the Bush family history is well documented

His grandfather had business ties to the Nazis. That is not the same thing as being a Nazi, and it certainly does not make Bush a Nazi.

and it can be reasonably argued that Bush is a corporate facist which is really just another form of nazism anyway

Define corporate fascist, Red Arrow. Then define Nazism. Then actually attempt to argue your point. Simply saying, "this is like this is like this" doesn't count, sorry.

Also, being a fascist does not make one a neo-Nazi. You might want to look up that definition, too.

That is why he supports the great nation of Israel and the Jews more than any other president. He supports the Jews because he's a Nazi.

I would argue that there have been several American Presidents who supported Israel far more than Bush. Truman, Carter, Clinton all come to mind. Bush has basically declared the Israeli-Palestinian issue "not my problem".

... How supportive is that, really? :roll:

I agree the fact that Bushs grandfather was a nazi sympathizer doesnt make his idiot grandson one--at least not in the traditional sense--but thats why Bush is a neo-nazi because of his globalist neo con agenda of corporate facism that threatens to enslave all the people of the world

What a bunch of horseshit. Saying Bush is a neo nazi because he's a neo-con (which, in fact, I don't think is accurate, although many of his advisors are), and that "neo-cons are like fascists, who are like nazis" is stretching definitions to the point of the absurd.