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Pot Smokers- Kit.

The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 11:35
What do Pot Smokers have in their kit? And what box do they have?

I have-
1 Big Box- Southern Comfort tin-
containing-
Small 'Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Tin'- 50 years old :D
Grinder
Pokey- 1 extra long match
matches
lighter
Small metal slim-line knife kit- with bottle opener, corkscrew and knife.
Silver King Size Slim Rizlas
Roaching material.

I just thought it was interesting, me and my friend were comparing kit last night... she has THE cutest little tin.
Sdaeriji
18-04-2004, 11:36
This has nothing to do with that, but have you ever seen those anti-pot ads on TV?
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 11:37
This has nothing to do with that, but have you ever seen those anti-pot ads on TV?

in America? if so, no, I live in Britain.

If you're talking about 'Talk To Frank' then yes. Amusing, and a good idea (not anti-pot, as such, just encouraging people to talk).
Sdaeriji
18-04-2004, 11:42
This has nothing to do with that, but have you ever seen those anti-pot ads on TV?

in America? if so, no, I live in Britain.

If you're talking about 'Talk To Frank' then yes. Amusing, and a good idea (not anti-pot, as such, just encouraging people to talk).

Oh, nevermind. No, they have a bunch of stupid anti-pot commercials in America. There's one where a bunch of stoned kids are getting drive-thru burgers, and then they tear out of the driveway and hit some little girl on her bike because their response time is alot slower, even though there's no way a stoned driver would drive that fast. And then there's another one where some girl gets stoned and then some drunk kid come in and starts taking advantage of her, which I see more of an anti-alcohol commercial than anti-pot.

Anyway, my point is this. Don't you think the best anti-pot advertisement would just be to show a bunch of kids smoking some really harsh weed? They'd be sitting there, coughing like a bunch of 80-year old chainsmokers with emphysema, hacking up their lungs, tears shooting out of their eyes. Every time I take a rough hit, I always think to myself, "This would make the best anti-marijuana commercial. No one would smoke if they thought it was always like this." What do you think? Do you agree?
Incertonia
18-04-2004, 11:44
I think you're exactly right--the latest anti-weed commercials I've seen have been very guilt-trippy about talking to your friends who have "drug problems." If adults would just stop lying to teens, they might actually have some effect. I thought the most effective anti-weed statement I'd ever heard came from Stan's dad on Southpark.
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 11:46
This has nothing to do with that, but have you ever seen those anti-pot ads on TV?

in America? if so, no, I live in Britain.

If you're talking about 'Talk To Frank' then yes. Amusing, and a good idea (not anti-pot, as such, just encouraging people to talk).

Oh, nevermind. No, they have a bunch of stupid anti-pot commercials in America. There's one where a bunch of stoned kids are getting drive-thru burgers, and then they tear out of the driveway and hit some little girl on her bike because their response time is alot slower, even though there's no way a stoned driver would drive that fast. And then there's another one where some girl gets stoned and then some drunk kid come in and starts taking advantage of her, which I see more of an anti-alcohol commercial than anti-pot.

Anyway, my point is this. Don't you think the best anti-pot advertisement would just be to show a bunch of kids smoking some really harsh weed? They'd be sitting there, coughing like a bunch of 80-year old chainsmokers with emphysema, hacking up their lungs, tears shooting out of their eyes. Every time I take a rough hit, I always think to myself, "This would make the best anti-marijuana commercial. No one would smoke if they thought it was always like this." What do you think? Do you agree?

Yeah. The best anti-pot commercial I had was standing in a huge crowd of drunken and stoned people watching the worlds worst band (the Locust) who I now really like (due to their crappiness). I'd smoked a blunt (by mistake) of really powerful grass, and the horrid, loud music, the strobes, the lack of seating, the inability to get beer. I hated it. But I was on a date and he held me, and it was all better. But yeah, anti-pot commercials are always hard to do, because what are you gonna show? A load of people giggling and chatting and sat around watching tv or playing monopoly and drinking tea? Its hardly a dnger to society, is it? Not like alcohol- every night I see great anti-alcohol adverts. In my street. Vomitting into the gutter.
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 11:48
If adults would just stop lying to teens, they might actually have some effect.


Damn right. My teachers made out that weed was totally mind blowingly evil. I tried it, and it wasn't. Why should I believe anything they say? We need decent education, and decriminalisation (which makes less people use it). Tell the truth, and let people decide what they put into their own body.
Salishe
18-04-2004, 11:49
This has nothing to do with that, but have you ever seen those anti-pot ads on TV?

in America? if so, no, I live in Britain.

If you're talking about 'Talk To Frank' then yes. Amusing, and a good idea (not anti-pot, as such, just encouraging people to talk).

Oh, nevermind. No, they have a bunch of stupid anti-pot commercials in America. There's one where a bunch of stoned kids are getting drive-thru burgers, and then they tear out of the driveway and hit some little girl on her bike because their response time is alot slower, even though there's no way a stoned driver would drive that fast. And then there's another one where some girl gets stoned and then some drunk kid come in and starts taking advantage of her, which I see more of an anti-alcohol commercial than anti-pot.

Anyway, my point is this. Don't you think the best anti-pot advertisement would just be to show a bunch of kids smoking some really harsh weed? They'd be sitting there, coughing like a bunch of 80-year old chainsmokers with emphysema, hacking up their lungs, tears shooting out of their eyes. Every time I take a rough hit, I always think to myself, "This would make the best anti-marijuana commercial. No one would smoke if they thought it was always like this." What do you think? Do you agree?

Stupid??....on the contrary....being a recovering alchoholic (dry now for 12 yrs thank you) each of those commercials could easily substitute a young person with a drinking problem. The idea is to get kids to think of someone other then themselves...and when I was drunk you can bet your ass I would have driven that fast out of a driveway...I have no evidence to suggest a person high on marijuana would drive slowly out of a driveway...it's his driving abilities that are impaired, not slowed.

As for one girl watching the other drown...the commercial is implicating that if your buddy was having a drug problem would you just let them drown in it?....or would you try to get them off it, because that is what a friend does..
Sdaeriji
18-04-2004, 11:51
I think you're exactly right--the latest anti-weed commercials I've seen have been very guilt-trippy about talking to your friends who have "drug problems." If adults would just stop lying to teens, they might actually have some effect. I thought the most effective anti-weed statement I'd ever heard came from Stan's dad on Southpark.

Yeah, these anti-pot commercials make it out to be this great evil that is going to cause you to kill innocent girls and rape young women and stuff. And then there's the more recent ones, like the girl that bailed on her swim team and stuff. They all make marijuana out like it's going to totally ruin your life, when it really doesn't. What they should be focusing on is underage drinking, which is a much more prevalent problem and is also alot more harmful.
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 11:52
This has nothing to do with that, but have you ever seen those anti-pot ads on TV?

in America? if so, no, I live in Britain.

If you're talking about 'Talk To Frank' then yes. Amusing, and a good idea (not anti-pot, as such, just encouraging people to talk).

Oh, nevermind. No, they have a bunch of stupid anti-pot commercials in America. There's one where a bunch of stoned kids are getting drive-thru burgers, and then they tear out of the driveway and hit some little girl on her bike because their response time is alot slower, even though there's no way a stoned driver would drive that fast. And then there's another one where some girl gets stoned and then some drunk kid come in and starts taking advantage of her, which I see more of an anti-alcohol commercial than anti-pot.

Anyway, my point is this. Don't you think the best anti-pot advertisement would just be to show a bunch of kids smoking some really harsh weed? They'd be sitting there, coughing like a bunch of 80-year old chainsmokers with emphysema, hacking up their lungs, tears shooting out of their eyes. Every time I take a rough hit, I always think to myself, "This would make the best anti-marijuana commercial. No one would smoke if they thought it was always like this." What do you think? Do you agree?

Stupid??....on the contrary....being a recovering alchoholic (dry now for 12 yrs thank you) each of those commercials could easily substitute a young person with a drinking problem. The idea is to get kids to think of someone other then themselves...and when I was drunk you can bet your ass I would have driven that fast out of a driveway...I have no evidence to suggest a person high on marijuana would drive slowly out of a driveway...it's his driving abilities that are impaired, not slowed.

As for one girl watching the other drown...the commercial is implicating that if your buddy was having a drug problem would you just let them drown in it?....or would you try to get them off it, because that is what a friend does..

Bill Hicks said something about stoned drivers- they don't crash as much as drunks, and when they do, it doesn't matter, because they're only driving at two miles an hour. Anyway, driving under the influence of anything is wrong. But it doesn't mean being under the influence is wrong (as long as you're not driving). The ad is simply a good warning against driving whilst stoned. It doesn't say that weed is bad if you're sat in your flat smoking...
Incertonia
18-04-2004, 11:53
Stupid??....on the contrary....being a recovering alchoholic (dry now for 12 yrs thank you) each of those commercials could easily substitute a young person with a drinking problem. The idea is to get kids to think of someone other then themselves...and when I was drunk you can bet your ass I would have driven that fast out of a driveway...I have no evidence to suggest a person high on marijuana would drive slowly out of a driveway...it's his driving abilities that are impaired, not slowed.

As for one girl watching the other drown...the commercial is implicating that if your buddy was having a drug problem would you just let them drown in it?....or would you try to get them off it, because that is what a friend does..I agree with you up to a point, Salishe. You're right that the point of the commercials is to get the teens to think outside of their own asses, which is tough enough to do. But alcohol and marijuana have vastly different effects on people. A person who is high is far less likely to drive quickly than a drunk is--and I've had plenty of experience with both. I was a bartender for 5 years and I've smoked enough and been with people who smoked enough to gauge their reactions. It's a completely different effect.
Sdaeriji
18-04-2004, 11:59
Stupid??....on the contrary....being a recovering alchoholic (dry now for 12 yrs thank you) each of those commercials could easily substitute a young person with a drinking problem. The idea is to get kids to think of someone other then themselves...and when I was drunk you can bet your ass I would have driven that fast out of a driveway...I have no evidence to suggest a person high on marijuana would drive slowly out of a driveway...it's his driving abilities that are impaired, not slowed.

As for one girl watching the other drown...the commercial is implicating that if your buddy was having a drug problem would you just let them drown in it?....or would you try to get them off it, because that is what a friend does..I agree with you up to a point, Salishe. You're right that the point of the commercials is to get the teens to think outside of their own asses, which is tough enough to do. But alcohol and marijuana have vastly different effects on people. A person who is high is far less likely to drive quickly than a drunk is--and I've had plenty of experience with both. I was a bartender for 5 years and I've smoked enough and been with people who smoked enough to gauge their reactions. It's a completely different effect.

It causes paranoia, especially in alot of virgin smokers, so they are less likely to do anything that might run a risk for them. Alot of the time pot smokers will be so afraid of the potential to get into an accident that they won't even drive. But even if they do, they're so afraid of getting pulled over or getting into an accident that, even with impaired responses, they're still driving safer than they would if they were sober. I agree that the point of the commercials is to get kids to think about the consequences of their actions, but I don't think marijuana should be the target. Underage drinking, especially on college campuses, is an infinitely more pressing problem, and that's the sort of thing that should be concentrated on. For all the bad things that someone stoned could or would do, they are a hundred times more likely to do them when drunk, and they're usually alot more dangerous to boot.
Sdaeriji
18-04-2004, 12:00
Apologies to The Pyrenees for completely hijacking his/her thread.
18-04-2004, 12:08
Yeah. The best anti-pot commercial I had was standing in a huge crowd of drunken and stoned people watching the worlds worst band (the Locust) who I now really like (due to their crappiness). I'd smoked a blunt (by mistake) of really powerful grass, and the horrid, loud music, the strobes, the lack of seating, the inability to get beer. I hated it. But I was on a date and he held me, and it was all better. But yeah, anti-pot commercials are always hard to do, because what are you gonna show? A load of people giggling and chatting and sat around watching tv or playing monopoly and drinking tea? Its hardly a dnger to society, is it? Not like alcohol- every night I see great anti-alcohol adverts. In my street. Vomitting into the gutter.

Is that The Locust who did an awesome cover of Queen's "Flash Gordon Theme"?

Adverts could show kids butt-mining in the morning, or drinking their bong water.

In my gearbox i have a small tupperware tub, 5 packs of red normal size rizzla, one pack of kingskins (red), 2 packs of Cutters Choice tobacco, lots of roach material (various thick paper), a small pair of scissors, a screw (don't know what that's doing in there), a safety pin i use as a pokey, some pipe gauzes, a pipe, and a Henry of finest organic homegrown green.
Kanteletar
18-04-2004, 12:14
In my buddy's (pun definately intended), kit he has a coffee grinder for breaking up the *ahem* organic material.
Kanabia
18-04-2004, 12:20
The best anti-weed ad I can think of - someone smoking dregs scraped from a very dirty bong. hahaha :)

My stoner buddies and myself recently retired our longtime bong made out of a plastic orange juice bottle. We called it "OJ Filthy" because it was almost black :lol:
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 12:21
In my buddy's (pun definately intended), kit he has a coffee grinder for breaking up the *ahem* organic material.

Isn't that sizable though? My brother has an Original Grinder, the best make. Mines a cheap copy, and broke almost as soon as I bought it. Better than fingers or scissors, though.

I don't know if the Locust covered it. I hope not.

And Rizla Red? ewww. The worst. I only use Blue or Silver. I'm a classy guy, you see. And I have a seperate box for pipe smoking gear.

As for Baccy- Drum mild is my usual choice, though my local newsagents has always sold out, so I get Golden V.


A good advert would be dry mouth. I hate that. And munchies in places you can't eat. I hate that too.
The Great Leveller
18-04-2004, 12:44
My kit seems far more basic than everyone elses.

Blue kingskin Rizlas (Kingskins aren't used for anything else are they?)
Tobacco (usually Drum)
Penknife
Clipper lighter (has a combined pokey thing :wink: )
Random peices of cardboard, old rizla packets etc.
Kanteletar
18-04-2004, 12:46
In my buddy's (pun definately intended), kit he has a coffee grinder for breaking up the *ahem* organic material.

Isn't that sizable though? My brother has an Original Grinder, the best make. Mines a cheap copy, and broke almost as soon as I bought it. Better than fingers or scissors, though.

Not really all that big. A bit smaller than a 2L Coke bottle if I remember correctly. Shake it, press the button a couple times to break it up.
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 12:47
My kit seems far more basic than everyone elses.

Blue kingskin Rizlas (Kingskins aren't used for anything else are they?)
Tobacco (usually Drum)
Penknife
Clipper lighter (has a combined pokey thing :wink: )
Random peices of cardboard, old rizla packets etc.

I always thought you'd be a pothead, TGL :D.

I have a slimmed down kit for journeys, walks, missions etc. Does anyone else have Missions?

If suddenly all weed stopped coming into this country, I'm pretty sure Rizla would go out of business. And hurrah for Clippers :D I sometimes stick them in my little kit.
The Pyrenees
18-04-2004, 12:48
In my buddy's (pun definately intended), kit he has a coffee grinder for breaking up the *ahem* organic material.

Isn't that sizable though? My brother has an Original Grinder, the best make. Mines a cheap copy, and broke almost as soon as I bought it. Better than fingers or scissors, though.

Not really all that big. A bit smaller than a 2L Coke bottle if I remember correctly. Shake it, press the button a couple times to break it up.
At Penrith Market (the worlds greatest market) theres a stall that sells electric weed grinders. They are the bomb. Bong!
The Great Leveller
18-04-2004, 12:55
I always thought you'd be a pothead, TGL :D.

I don't believe that! My 'aura' travels the internet. Everyone seems to assume I'm a pothead.

I was at a freinds birthday party, and I bought along some spliffs. They were all merrily smoked, and all got high. The next my mate [who's birthday it was] was asked by his Dad. "A neighbour of ours smelt pot last night. Was that you?" Obviously he replied no. So his Dad said "Oh, must have been [TGL] and Gethyn then." The thing is, his Dad had seen a picture of Gethyn with a spliff in his mouth, so it was understandable he accused him. But I had never met him before, and he still assumed it was me

I have a slimmed down kit for journeys, walks, missions etc. Does anyone else have Missions?


If I have the definition of missions right, then yes.
West - Europa
18-04-2004, 12:58
In my kit there's some black "Smoking" brand rolling papers. "Blunt" brand chocolate flavoured brown rolling papers, a ziploc baggie with weed, a ziploc baggie with a small stick of hash the size of a pinky tip.
Half a cigarette of which I sometimes use the tobacco as filler or filter.
A wooden pipe with screwable metal head with mesh, two packs of meshes.
18-04-2004, 13:09
I don't know if the Locust covered it. I hope not..

If they are speed metal then they did, a band called Locust definately covered it, and it's very funny.

And Rizla Red? ewww. The worst. I only use Blue or Silver. I'm a classy guy, you see. And I have a seperate box for pipe smoking gear.

Pah..! Blue and silver? You're no connoisseur. That's like drinking skimmed milk or low fat chips or something. :D Nah, i find that i roll too tight with blues, and you have to keep lighting the bastard. With silvers i find that they keep burning, like real cigarettes.

As for Baccy- Drum mild is my usual choice, though my local newsagents has always sold out, so I get Golden V..

Yuck! i must admit, these days i am really picky with my flavour. Golden Vadge would do if i couldn't get Cunters Choice, or maybe Amber Leaf. Drum is just pipe baccy, uugh!
The Great Leveller
18-04-2004, 13:13
Yuck! i must admit, these days i am really picky with my flavour. Golden Vadge would do if i couldn't get Cunters Choice, or maybe Amber Leaf. Drum is just pipe baccy, uugh!

No way, Drum (blue) is easily the best. GV, just tastes 'sickly' and Cutter Choice tastes of fish guts. Also I heard it was banned in Europe for maving too many chemical. It could be (and probably is) apocraphyl, but do you want o smoke the French probably wouldn't?
Free Soviets
19-04-2004, 04:58
I agree with you up to a point, Salishe. You're right that the point of the commercials is to get the teens to think outside of their own asses, which is tough enough to do. But alcohol and marijuana have vastly different effects on people. A person who is high is far less likely to drive quickly than a drunk is--and I've had plenty of experience with both. I was a bartender for 5 years and I've smoked enough and been with people who smoked enough to gauge their reactions. It's a completely different effect.

a legitimate scientific study on it all:
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/driving/s1p2.htm

the quick and dirty of it:
"THC's effects on road-tracking after doses up to 300 µg/kg never exceeded alcohol's at bacs of 0.08 g%; and, were in no way unusual compared to many medicinal drugs' (Robbe, 1994; Robbe and O'Hanlon, 1995; O'Hanlon et al., 1995). Yet, THC's effects differ qualitatively from many other drugs, especially alcohol. Evidence from the present and previous studies strongly suggests that alcohol encourages risky driving whereas THC encourages greater caution, at least in experiments. Another way THC seems to differ qualitatively from many other drugs is that the former's users seem better able to compensate for its adverse effects while driving under the influence."