NationStates Jolt Archive


Question for DA LADIES...

Garaj Mahal
17-04-2004, 17:11
Why do so many women (at least here in North America) walk around with your eyes downcast/averted and wearing an unhappy expression when you're unaccompanied?

When I'm on the street, I make slight eye contact and offer a slightly friendly expression to most people I see, regardless if they're a woman or a man. To do this is to acknowledge everyone's humanity and importance as a fellow citizen. It also demonstrates a bit of quiet self-confidence.

So often it seems to me that many women have some instinctive neural alarm that tells them "Red alert - unknown male approaching! Avert eyes, and make all efforts to pretend he doesn't exist!"

I'm not one of these guys who think all women owe me acknowledgement or a smile. And trust me, I won't interpret eye contact as any sort of come-on - and I'm sure most other men wouldn't either. It's just that I feel the world would be better for *everybody* if we just gave more people a minimal acknowlegement when we pass each other on the street. What's to lose?

Even if you do encounter a man who leers back at you or gives you "elevator eyes", is that the end of the world? Why allow this dorky minority to dictate how you carry yourself in public and engage with everyone else?

I understand that many women have been bothered (or worse) by the occasional man and feel wary of us in general. But acting excessively shy in the street sends out a far stronger message of weakness/potential victimhood than acting friendly and self-confident does.

I don't mean to be insensitive or to chastise women for this, but it's something that's puzzled me all my life. Since the supposed postwar empowerment of women, it continues to.
Demonic Furbies
17-04-2004, 17:27
the man has a point. same thing happens all the time to me. come on girls, smile every once in a while.
17-04-2004, 17:57
Maybe you are both really ugly.
Rhyno D
17-04-2004, 18:03
Maybe you are both really ugly.

That would make sense :wink: . I mean, my GF smiles all the time, and her friends smile all the time, and my friends smile all the time...so...
The Elven People
17-04-2004, 18:03
I walk aroung with my head held high and eye up various men, hmmmm this could make me the opposite of most women.
Rhyno D
17-04-2004, 18:03
DP
Katganistan
17-04-2004, 18:20
:lol: I live in a city of more than eight million people -- NO ONE who lives here looks anyone in the eyes because of all the overcrowding. It's very amusing for me to visit other cities, because when people are just polite (smiling or OH MY GOD, saying Good Morning!!!!) it often takes me aback for a bit -- 'till I've adjusted to life in my new surroundings.

My visit to California was especially odd -- people would come up to me on the street out of nowhere to start a conversation. Pleasant, but very strange to someone who'd used to trying to not see a couple exploring each others' tonsils right in front of a trainload of people and trying not to be seen by someone panhandling in the subway.
17-04-2004, 18:21
Well eye contact Is body language for "Speak to me"
Every time I make Eyecontact with a bum I get asked for money.
Sdaeriji
17-04-2004, 18:23
Maybe you guys got shit on your forehead or something.
Garaj Mahal
17-04-2004, 18:37
Maybe you are both really ugly.

Oh yeah. I forgot that only attractive people deserve human respect and eye contact.

I make eye contact with people regardless of looks, gender or age - guess that makes me weird. (BTW my wife calls me handsome all the time :wink: )
Garaj Mahal
03-05-2004, 06:44
((bump))
The Eyesores
03-05-2004, 06:46
no, i'm always checkin' out people. seeing what's happening.
PumpkinEve
03-05-2004, 06:56
well, what if theyre a serial killer or something? :)
Janathoras
03-05-2004, 07:01
I live in a relatively small city (about 90,000 inhabitants), and when I walk
around the main pedestrian zone, I _do_ keep my head up and look at
people, even in the eye, and almost always they avert their eyes first.

I agree that looking in the eyes is a sign of 'come talk to me' in the right
setting (such as a bar), but in the limbic system (the 'beast within' to those
who don't read bio-sciences in college) that's sign language for 'are you
challenging me?' And since starting a fight with a stranger in a public setting
is bound to get you in trouble, most people rather avert their eyes.

When I'm in a hurry, I treat other people as obstacles and pay more
attention to calculating the fastest route past them, so then I don't look
anyone in the eye. :)
Eridanus
03-05-2004, 07:18
They're sad because you're not walking with them Garaj.