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Let's nuke the sun - British know-how tackles a problem

Smeagol-Gollum
17-04-2004, 13:16
Let's nuke the sun - British know-how tackles a problem

By Paul Brown in London
April 17, 2004

Fire nuclear waste into the sun . . . put it in Antarctic ice sheets so it sinks by its own heat to the bedrock . . . put it under the Earth's crust so it is sucked to the molten core.

These are three of 14 options the Government's advisers are considering to get rid of Britain's nuclear waste legacy.

All options are technically possible, but many are risky.

Most have political drawbacks and are expensive - about £50 billion ($120 billion).

But the Government has decided to tackle the problem and last year appointed a committee to explore possibilities for a publicly acceptable solution - something that governments have failed to do for 50 years.

The committee's options range from the exotic to the well established. And most have their difficulties. Firing waste into the sun or outer space may rid Earth of the problem but the possibility of rocket failure makes it seem too much of a gamble.

The Antarctica solution, allowing heat-producing waste to bury itself in the ice, runs into the difficulty that the internationally agreed Antarctic Treaty bans such activity. The last pristine continent is supposed to be untouched by nuclear material.

Sub-seabed disposal, where waste is placed in a hole or dropped in special penetrators to bury itself in the seabed, may be the best technical option. Even if the packages eventually rot and the radioactivity escapes it will be diluted by the sea. But sea dumping is banned.

Some of the other ideas, such as placing it deep in the ground -either to lose it in the Earth's mantle or in deep stratas where it would remain - have been tried by Russians and Americans.

The Swedes are successfully using a deep depository, but so far Britain has proved unable to find suitable geological formations. Exporting nuclear waste is also against government policy and likely to draw international protests.

All of the ideas remain on the table and none is a frontrunner. The present policy, by default, is storage, but with a government committed to safeguarding the environment for future generations this, too, may be ruled out as an option.

Nuclear waste stays dangerous for 250,000 years and even the best constructed concrete bunker is likely to need upgrading every 100 years or so.

Martin Forwood, of Cumbrians Opposed to Radioactive Environment, who was due to meet members of the government committee this week, was dismissive of the 14 ideas: "We thought all these madcap schemes had been junked donkey's years ago. The only sensible solution is to store it where it rightfully belongs - in above-ground, custom-built concrete stores at the site of origin."

The Government estimates it will soon have 500,000 tonnes of higher level nuclear waste it has no home for, even if it never builds another nuclear power station. But by far the largest stores and the most dangerous high level heat-producing liquid wastes are at Sellafield, where Britain's largest nuclear facilities were built and developed.

The Guardian

SOURCE : http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/16/1082055655956.html?from=storyrhs

COMMENT
Not a subject I had ever really thought much about, but some intriguing possibilities.
Enerica
17-04-2004, 13:23
I like the idea of sending into space, but as Scott Adams said what happens when you can't go out for fear of something landing on your head?

I do think though that exporting it to somewhere more remote would be much better.
Freedom For Most
17-04-2004, 13:28
Solution - don't use nuclear power.
Enerica
17-04-2004, 13:30
But then what power source to use, ones like wind are too variable. Nuclear is quite safe and doesn't pollute.
HC Eredivisie
17-04-2004, 13:34
why not makes nukes out of it :?:
The Great Leveller
17-04-2004, 13:34
I saw this to. It immediatley reminded me of the Maddox plan for old people.

Superficialy, I am in favour of nuclear power. It is resonable safe and effeceint and cheap. but I am reluctant to support it fully due to the waste (and I am not to keen on having a fast breeder reactor near me). However I liked the idea pushing it into the mantle.
Enerica
17-04-2004, 13:35
why not makes nukes out of it :?:

It is nuclear waste. However if it could be allowed there is a type of reactor called a breeder reactor which uses plutonium and forms uranium , I think, that could be used for other purposes.

Edit:
I just realised Leveler mentioned those reactors
The Great Leveller
17-04-2004, 13:36
why not makes nukes out of it :?:

(I Should have paid more attention in Physics).

I think it is because you can't.
or
If you can, the British publuic aren't all to keen to have even more nukes