NationStates Jolt Archive

Why Did AA fail? It has competition.

The massively popular NPR is all a liberal needs to listen to. It is reasonably unbais but targets issues that are important to liberals--international news, war (in Iraq and elsewhere), unrest in the world, poverty (local and international), gay marriage, ect. Best of all, theres no commericals. Commericals are a nuciance and NPR listeners are relieved being rid of them.

It hasn't failed. I'm listening to it right now.

It hasn't failed. I'm listening to it right now.

I thought you were English!

Anyway, Its strugguling. I doubt it will last too long.

It hasn't failed. I'm listening to it right now.

I thought you were English!

Anyway, Its strugguling. I doubt it will last too long.

I am. But I wanted to see what the fuss was about.

It probably won't last. Simply because it is trite and boring. But hey, I don't really like talk radio anyway.

Failed, Southern Industrial? As Twain said, "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Air America Radio isn't going away any time soon. Get used to feeling the thorn in your right-wing side.

Failed, Southern Industrial? As Twain said, "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Air America Radio isn't going away any time soon. Get used to feeling the thorn in your right-wing side.

I don't think right-wingers have anything to fear.

But as way of comparison, how can I get hold of the right-wing shows? (Sorry but American radio names and organisations baffle me,and I have no idea how it works.)

I know they don't have anythig to fear, at least not yet, but at least there's some competition in the field now. It was empty before, regardless of what the right-wing likes to claim about NPR's supposed bias.

As far as getting the right-wing talk shows, I'd imagine you'll have to go through their individual websites and see if they stream. I think Limbaugh does, but there's a subscription fee--I could be wrong, but it might be worth checking out.

Air America broadcast:
"Bush bad. Raise taxes. Stop war. Gay marriage."

Air America broadcast:
"Bush bad. Raise taxes. Stop war. Gay marriage."

Hey, that's weird.

Rush Limbaugh.

"Bush great! Lower taxes! Go to war! Gay marriage! Oxycontin!"

LOL

I still think it's the ultimate irony.

Always screamin about "Bush put us in a deficit!" and then getting kicked off half their stations for bouncing a couple million dollars in checks :P

As far as getting the right-wing talk shows, I'd imagine you'll have to go through their individual websites and see if they stream. I think Limbaugh does, but there's a subscription fee--I could be wrong, but it might be worth checking out.You can listen to Rush from 12 PM to 3PM EST at this station:

WLSAM Chicago
http://www.wlsam.com/

It has a good stream, and it's free. ~ Michael.

LOL

I still think it's the ultimate irony.

Always screamin about "Bush put us in a deficit!" and then getting kicked off half their stations for bouncing a couple million dollars in checks :P

That's really not the definition of irony.

LOL

I still think it's the ultimate irony.

Always screamin about "Bush put us in a deficit!" and then getting kicked off half their stations for bouncing a couple million dollars in checks :P

That's really not the definition of irony.Bashing something, then being found guilty of the thing you are bashing... how much more Ironic CAN you get?

Air America probably will fail because most Americans are patriots who do not want higher taxes, affirmative action, or civil rights for terrorists. ~ Michael.

Air America broadcast;
"Bush Idiot, liar, tin-plated dictator in training. Raise taxes on the rich who don't pay taxes and corps that use American infrastructure but flee overseas so they don't have to pay. Stop stupid, mismanaged, ill concieved war. Allow rights for all Americans and not turn the US into a theocracy"

AA went off the air in Chicago and LA because of billing dispute with the owner of those stations - he is apparently a shifty crook that has done this in the past (admittedly, I'm biased so look into this info yourselves), except this time it makes the news. He yanked the airtime and thanks to our lovely new rules about controlling radio markets, AA just can't switch to another station in those markets - the airwaves are tied up by big corporations that don't want to them on the air. So they have to go to court with this guy.

AA is back on the air in Chicago thanks to a court order. In L.A. no such luck yet, probably Monday

Actually the left is trying to create a centrally orginized left based media orginization over less than a year. The right wing groups took far longer and are not centrally organized or dependent.

Rush makes the stations money which is why he's on the air. The left needs to find someone as equally popular with a radio audience or be saddled with having the DNC monitarily support it. Which would only going to lead to future problems.

Al Franken's rich, why can't he pay the bill? I mean, he's got that new book out.. "Liars, big fat liars, and the lies that lie about the big lying liars in the lying lie that lie with liars who run lying lying liars..."

Actually the left is trying to create a centrally orginized left based media orginization over less than a year. The right wing groups took far longer and are not centrally organized or dependent.

Rush makes the stations money which is why he's on the air. The left needs to find someone as equally popular with a radio audience or be saddled with having the DNC monitarily support it. Which would only going to lead to future problems.How many male enhancement commercials will need to be aired to support Air America? Rush Limbaugh popularized Snapple. Maybe Air America could bring us the next Ben and Jerry's. ~ Michael.

LOL

I still think it's the ultimate irony.

Always screamin about "Bush put us in a deficit!" and then getting kicked off half their stations for bouncing a couple million dollars in checks :P

That's really not the definition of irony.Bashing something, then being found guilty of the thing you are bashing... how much more Ironic CAN you get?

More ironic would be if Al Franken were elected president and then managed to drive the deficit further than any president in history. I'm not disagreeing that it's rather humorous, but it's really not irony.

Actually the left is trying to create a centrally orginized left based media orginization over less than a year. The right wing groups took far longer and are not centrally organized or dependent.

Rush makes the stations money which is why he's on the air. The left needs to find someone as equally popular with a radio audience or be saddled with having the DNC monitarily support it. Which would only going to lead to future problems. over less than a year. LOL sorry, just thought that was a big little typo :P

Anyway... The left already have CNN and NBC... can't they leave AM radio alone? Not like they'll EVER succeed... no one will sponsor a talk radio station that only talks to people they agree with. They screen out every conservative that calls in! Almost every right-wing talk radio host lets the libs cut in line because they know that's where the fun is at! People want to listen to people fighting over the issues, not just a long string of one-sided monologues that rarely make sense and are always talking about non-issues and conspiracy theories.

Al Franken's rich, why can't he pay the bill? I mean, he's got that new book out.. "Liars, big fat liars, and the lies that lie about the big lying liars in the lying lie that lie with liars who run lying lying liars..."

LOL I think Al Fraken is looking to become rich from this actually...not spend his own money.

Ratings people, ratings...you need to get radio listeners to listen to AA... :roll:

Al Franken's rich, why can't he pay the bill? I mean, he's got that new book out.. "Liars, big fat liars, and the lies that lie about the big lying liars in the lying lie that lie with liars who run lying lying liars..."

LOL I think Al Fraken is looking to become rich from this actually...not spend his own money.

Ratings people, ratings...you need to get radio listeners to listen to AA... :roll:I'm sorry, but you don't get ratings by going "Blah blah blah Bush sucks haha!"

That's why CNN and NBC are WAY behind Fox News in the ratings.

Hey Raysia I'm the independent around here. Rush could get taken off the air tommorrow and then marry Al Frakian in Vermont the next day I wouldn't really care.

Well, I'd damn well laugh my head off... :lol:

Same is true for Al Franken, he could get canned next week and marry Al Rocker and I wouldn't care...

Less laughtng, more shock...

Hey Raysia I'm the independent around here. Rush could get taken off the air tommorrow and then marry Al Frakian in Vermont the next day I wouldn't really care.

Well, I'd damn well laugh my head off... :lol:

Same is true for Al Franken, he could get canned next week and marry Al Rocker and I wouldn't care...

Less laughtng, more shock...I don't understand what you're saying...

The point is, Liberal Radio has been tried. This was their biggest attempt yet... and it flopped before it could air for a whole month!!!

Lesson they should learn: Don't bash your potential sponsors :)
The reason they never get any sponsors is because they are always anti-capitalism and anti-corporation and all that... who do you have left to sponsor you? moveon.org and John Kerry can't support you the whole way :P

Al Franken's rich, why can't he pay the bill? I mean, he's got that new book out.. "Liars, big fat liars, and the lies that lie about the big lying liars in the lying lie that lie with liars who run lying lying liars..."

LOL I think Al Fraken is looking to become rich from this actually...not spend his own money.

Ratings people, ratings...you need to get radio listeners to listen to AA... :roll:I'm sorry, but you don't get ratings by going "Blah blah blah Bush sucks haha!"

That's why CNN and NBC are WAY behind Fox News in the ratings.

And that somehow negates the fact that it is absolute trash?

Ah, my point was that for AA to work it needs ratings pure and simple. I'm not going to say AA's sole goal in life is:

"Whine whine...whatever hate bush crap."

Nor am I going to say there isn't a market for it. However, there does not appear to be a market for it, or not one for their current list of hosts.

I guess the wrong demographics exist or Liberals like listening to music...or don't listen to talk radio?

Which if is the case then who is AA supposed to be connecting to? me, The independent voter?

I roll my eyes at Rush and Al so that's a fairly dumb idea...

Al Franken's rich, why can't he pay the bill? I mean, he's got that new book out.. "Liars, big fat liars, and the lies that lie about the big lying liars in the lying lie that lie with liars who run lying lying liars..."

LOL I think Al Fraken is looking to become rich from this actually...not spend his own money.

Ratings people, ratings...you need to get radio listeners to listen to AA... :roll:I'm sorry, but you don't get ratings by going "Blah blah blah Bush sucks haha!"

That's why CNN and NBC are WAY behind Fox News in the ratings.

And that somehow negates the fact that it is absolute trash?If Fox is Trash, then Air AMerica is Recycled Trash :)

Ah, my point was that for AA to work it needs ratings pure and simple. I'm not going to say AA's sole goal in life is:

"Whine whine...whatever hate bush crap."

Nor am I going to say there isn't a market for it. However, there does not appear to be a market for it, or not one for their current list of hosts.

I guess the wrong demographics exist or Liberals like listening to music...or don't listen to talk radio?

Which if is the case then who is AA supposed to be connecting to? me, The independent voter?

I roll my eyes at Rush and Al so that's a fairly dumb idea...Still. Ratings only convince sponsors to, well... sponsor.

Who is going to sponsor an anti-corporate radio station?

LOL

I still think it's the ultimate irony.

Always screamin about "Bush put us in a deficit!" and then getting kicked off half their stations for bouncing a couple million dollars in checks :P

That's really not the definition of irony.It's also a load of shit, not that Raysia has ever allowed being disproven to stop him from passing along the big lie.

Come on now, Raysia--you can't even claim ignorance on this one since the threads the last couple of days have shown exactly what the situation is--that the person Air America was buying air time from was cheating them and they stopped payment on the checks. The checks were not bounced and you know this. Therefore, I have to conclude that your continued pushing of this false information is deliberate, i.e. you are a liar.

How does your God feel about lying? Is it okay when you're defaming people that you disagree with politically but bad at other times? Hmmmm?

Al Franken's rich, why can't he pay the bill? I mean, he's got that new book out.. "Liars, big fat liars, and the lies that lie about the big lying liars in the lying lie that lie with liars who run lying lying liars..."

LOL I think Al Fraken is looking to become rich from this actually...not spend his own money.

Ratings people, ratings...you need to get radio listeners to listen to AA... :roll:I'm sorry, but you don't get ratings by going "Blah blah blah Bush sucks haha!"

That's why CNN and NBC are WAY behind Fox News in the ratings.
And that somehow negates the fact that it is absolute trash?

Looks at CNN and Foxnews...notices very small diffrences in content. The biggest being things from Junk Science and the Cato institute on Fox. And several liberal editorials on CNN. But neither are difinitve nor completely wrong either...

LOL

I still think it's the ultimate irony.

Always screamin about "Bush put us in a deficit!" and then getting kicked off half their stations for bouncing a couple million dollars in checks :P

That's really not the definition of irony.It's also a load of shit, not that Raysia has ever allowed being disproven to stop him from passing along the big lie.

Come on now, Raysia--you can't even claim ignorance on this one since the threads the last couple of days have shown exactly what the situation is--that the person Air America was buying air time from was cheating them and they stopped payment on the checks. The checks were not bounced and you know this. Therefore, I have to conclude that your continued pushing of this false information is deliberate, i.e. you are a liar.

How does your God feel about lying? Is it okay when you're defaming people that you disagree with politically but bad at other times? Hmmmm?LOL I didn't hear that part.

Jeez.

How do you expect me to hear what the truth is when everyone's fighting each other? Better to just sit back and laugh at everything :P

Ah, my point was that for AA to work it needs ratings pure and simple. I'm not going to say AA's sole goal in life is:

"Whine whine...whatever hate bush crap."

Nor am I going to say there isn't a market for it. However, there does not appear to be a market for it, or not one for their current list of hosts.

I guess the wrong demographics exist or Liberals like listening to music...or don't listen to talk radio?

Which if is the case then who is AA supposed to be connecting to? me, The independent voter?

I roll my eyes at Rush and Al so that's a fairly dumb idea...Still. Ratings only convince sponsors to, well... sponsor.

Who is going to sponsor an anti-corporate radio station?

If you could get 18-26 year old males listening at over 6 million, the coporations would jump in bed with an anti-property, communist pedifile...

Not to say AA is that or even close but...really the people who buy adverstising time are not that concerned with politics. If things get too hot here in the U.S. They'll just move to Bermuda or Man.

Ah, my point was that for AA to work it needs ratings pure and simple. I'm not going to say AA's sole goal in life is:

"Whine whine...whatever hate bush crap."

Nor am I going to say there isn't a market for it. However, there does not appear to be a market for it, or not one for their current list of hosts.

I guess the wrong demographics exist or Liberals like listening to music...or don't listen to talk radio?

Which if is the case then who is AA supposed to be connecting to? me, The independent voter?

I roll my eyes at Rush and Al so that's a fairly dumb idea...Still. Ratings only convince sponsors to, well... sponsor.

Who is going to sponsor an anti-corporate radio station?

If you could get 18-26 year old males listening at over 6 million, the coporations would jump in bed with an anti-property, communist pedifile...

Not to say AA is that or even close but...really the people who buy adverstising time are not that concerned with politics. If things get too hot here in the U.S. They'll just move to Bermuda or Man.I can hear it now:

"McDonalds is making our population Obese! We have to shut them down!" *This segment has been paid for by: McDonalds.* :)

Oh, and 6 million listeners? Hah. They can't even get 10,000 in Liberal Portland :)

So you just missed that part, Raysia? Hmmm? How very convenient for you.

Face it--you're a liar with a case of convenient memory lapse and you've been busted, yet again.

If you could get 18-26 year old males listening at over 6 million, the coporations would jump in bed with an anti-property, communist pedifile...

Not to say AA is that or even close but...really the people who buy adverstising time are not that concerned with politics.

This is not entirely true. Just for examples sake, cosmetic companies make up the bulk of the advertising in womens magazines. In order to run the ads, the magazine cannot run an article that encourages women to not wear make-up or that they do not need to buy beauty. Advertisers assert their will over content as much as possible. The 'invention' of the individual ad spots sold over the course of the show(instead of having one sponser for a show) was supposed to take content out of the hands of the advertisers, but it was just a matter of time before that power was restored. Now we are even seeing a return to single sponser shows (24 with Ford, American Idol and Coke. Not single sponsers in the sense of early tv and radio, but getting there.)
With the show that is being developed based on the muppet looking Sony creature, content seems to be garaunteed to be tow the line.

The fact that the attacks are still on getting sponsership without talk of the ratings points leads me to believe they are right: They are saying something that the powers that be don't want you to hear.

But if there weren't a corporate conduit, what nipple would Raysia feed on?

So you just missed that part, Raysia? Hmmm? How very convenient for you.

Face it--you're a liar with a case of convenient memory lapse and you've been busted, yet again.

It wouldnt be the first, or last time....

Hell..in the thread about Air America Raysia started , he called liberals Idioit, and then could come up with a reason WHY he thought that...'
Then refused to admit he was wrong, or even to rise to my challenges.

So you just missed that part, Raysia? Hmmm? How very convenient for you.

Face it--you're a liar with a case of convenient memory lapse and you've been busted, yet again.

It wouldnt be the first, or last time....

Hell..in the thread about Air America Raysia started , he called liberals Idioit, and then could come up with a reason WHY he thought that...'
Then refused to admit he was wrong, or even to rise to my challenges.The more I deal with Raysia, the more he sounds like Snubis.

Or Ithuania.

Or Marathon.

Considers point...well corporations are trying to gain more control over their expenditures. Hell, let's be honest...Kerry is being brought to us by Heinz ketchup...Bush by Halliburton Oil...

The Democrates, no matter what they say are just as much in bed with corporate sponsership as the Republicans are.

And I'm getting a bit tired of all this..."The corporations are rulling us all...vote democrat and save us!"

Also, just because Raysia is a conservative, and a social conservative at that, does not make him a corporate stoge.

This is why I can't stand half of the Left out there...anyone who disagrees with them is nothing more than a sell out to corporate america...

Considers point...well corporations are trying to gain more control over their expenditures. Hell, let's be honest...Kerry is being brought to us by Heinz ketchup...Bush by Halliburton Oil...

The Democrates, no matter what they say are just as much in bed with corporate sponsership as the Republicans are.

And I'm getting a bit tired of all this..."The corporations are rulling us all...vote democrat and save us!"

Also, just because Raysia is a conservative, and a social conservative at that, does not make him a corporate stoge.

This is why I can't stand half of the Left out there...anyone who disagrees with them is nothing more than a sell out to corporate america...

Not that Kerry isn't running off of Heinz's money, but does the Heinz Ketchup Co. really have much of a political agenda?

Considers point...well corporations are trying to gain more control over their expenditures. Hell, let's be honest...Kerry is being brought to us by Heinz ketchup...Bush by Halliburton Oil...

The Democrates, no matter what they say are just as much in bed with corporate sponsership as the Republicans are.

And I'm getting a bit tired of all this..."The corporations are rulling us all...vote democrat and save us!"

Also, just because Raysia is a conservative, and a social conservative at that, does not make him a corporate stoge.

This is why I can't stand half of the Left out there...anyone who disagrees with them is nothing more than a sell out to corporate america...

Not that Kerry isn't running off of Heinz's money, but does the Heinz Ketchup Co. really have much of a political agenda?Actually--Kerry isn't running off of his wife's money. It's against the law. She's only allowed to donate $2,000 to his campaign, just like any other voter. Now she could theoretically run her own ads if she wanted, but they could not be coordinated with the Kerry campaign.

One last point--Theresa Heinz-Kerry has nothing to do with the day to day operation of the Heinz Corporation, and John Kerry has absolutely nothing to do with it.

I dont think anyone is accusing Raysia of being a corporate stooge....
I think most of us accuse him of being mostly unaware of that wich he claims to despise.
He cannot tell you WHY he hates liberals, only that he does.
He cannot understand why certain things that he personally, or his religion does that makes many people angry...or at least wont admit it....and when he finally DOES....he leaves the thread.
He can troll, and incite..but his posts have little in the way of actual substance.

I dont think anyone is accusing Raysia of being a corporate stooge....
I think most of us accuse him of being mostly unaware of that wich he claims to despise.
He cannot tell you WHY he hates liberals, only that he does.
He cannot understand why certain things that he personally, or his religion does that makes many people angry...or at least wont admit it....and when he finally DOES....he leaves the thread.
He can troll, and incite..but his posts have little in the way of actual substance.

wow Raysias being treated just like me :P

I dont think anyone is accusing Raysia of being a corporate stooge....
I think most of us accuse him of being mostly unaware of that wich he claims to despise.
He cannot tell you WHY he hates liberals, only that he does.
He cannot understand why certain things that he personally, or his religion does that makes many people angry...or at least wont admit it....and when he finally DOES....he leaves the thread.
He can troll, and incite..but his posts have little in the way of actual substance.LOL You know just as well as me that the only reasons I leave (or try to leave) a thread are:

The thread is just getting boring with the same argument back and forth

it turns into everyone vs. raysia

Mods warn me about something or other

Tuumania or Texastanbul opens their mouth :)

Smiles about things...You know I find it intresting that a) the same rules that apply to the Heinz family applies to Haliburton Bush relationship...but went unnoted by anyone here.

b)That you all assume Hinez ketchup doesn't have a political agenda but Haliburton must...

For one how about lessining of restrictions on GM sources for food production expecially produced foods made by the Hinz corporation? Or a few nice tax breaks for companies with long support of the Arts in Pensylvainia or someother nice pork project. Subsidization of food preseveration research?

And the democrats have been beaten up fairly well recently...

I dont think anyone is accusing Raysia of being a corporate stooge....
I think most of us accuse him of being mostly unaware of that wich he claims to despise.
He cannot tell you WHY he hates liberals, only that he does.
He cannot understand why certain things that he personally, or his religion does that makes many people angry...or at least wont admit it....and when he finally DOES....he leaves the thread.
He can troll, and incite..but his posts have little in the way of actual substance.LOL You know just as well as me that the only reasons I leave (or try to leave) a thread are:

The thread is just getting boring with the same argument back and forth

it turns into everyone vs. raysia

Mods warn me about something or other

Tuumania or Texastanbul opens their mouth :)

and did I mention the blatant attempts to ignore the truth?

Smiles about things...You know I find it intresting that a) the same rules that apply to the Heinz family applies to Haliburton Bush relationship...but went unnoted by anyone here.

b)That you all assume Hinez ketchup doesn't have a political agenda but Haliburton must...

For one how about lessining of restrictions on GM sources for food production expecially produced foods made by the Hinz corporation? Or a few nice tax breaks for companies with long support of the Arts in Pensylvainia or someother nice pork project. Subsidization of food preseveration research?

And the democrats have been beaten up fairly well recently...

its the hypocritical double standards of the rightwing hate media in america

hee hee this is funny. i love how there are jealous right wing goof balls here who don't do their homework and spout matt drudge lies. hee hee.

anywho, just listening to AAR and listening to the gradual increase of ads, from big companies too, and know it'll survive. also noticed the fun info about their streaming download success too, they are doing quite well. but still all we here in this forum is nonsensical right-wing buffoonery. tee hee, guess it's driving you all crazy ain't it?

wanna know a quick factoid? AAR has enough in its stockpiles to stay on the air for 2 years without ANY ad support. and guess what? it has ad support. nice, big, growing quantities of ad support. tee hee.

so grind away, your inane chatter means nothing. you are just spouting unsubstantiated matt drudge sludge as fact, like a huge chunk of the lazy american media. hahaha, you are all so whatever! at least your flaming can be fun, hahahaha!

whee, love AAR, oodles of fun!