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The greatest video game company in the world, Nintendo, is in servere danger! Because of the ignorance of today's youth, and the ignorance of corporations, the Gamecube is beginning to lose more and more support. In this day and age, such gimmicks as built-in DVD players and online play are replacing the stuff that makes video games great: Pure, simple fun.


Don't let it end this way, if Nintendo goes, the entire industry will suffer. More and more games these days are blood and guts. This trend has made "video game" a dirty word among some politicians. If Nintendo, one of the few companies who still hold true to the non-controversial meaning of video games, is forced to go 3rd party, then heavy restrictions on the sales of Video games could be put into act. It's just that simple: Nintendo is one of the few "pure" video game companies these days.




What you can do:

1. Write 3rd parties that support the Gamecube and GBA and tell them how much you love it.
1a. Among these third parties are:
Capcom
Sonic Team
Sega
EA Sports
Namco
Sega
and others!

2. Write 3rd parties that no longer support (Or have hinted at no longer supporting) the Gamecube and or GBA and ask them to support the gamecube, don't forget to point out that the Gamecube now outsells the X-box in worldwide numbers AND that the Gamecube is easy to develop for:
Among these are:
Sega's Sports Division (or ESPN Sports)
Rockstar Games
Factor 5
Criterion Games
DICE
Eidos Interactive
Acclaim
Atari
.... and others

3. Write to 3rd parties that have never supported the gamecube, again, say that the Gamecube has surpassed the X-box in worldwide sales AND that the Gamecube has been praised for being easy to develop for:
Among these are:
Frontier Developments
Bungie Software
and others

4. Whenever possible, only buy the Gamecube version of the product. Exceptions should only be made if the PC version is availible, since that will not raise sales for any system.

5. When the PSP comes out, DO NOT BUY IT. Instead, buy the Gameboy DS. Doing this will show Sony not to mess with the handheld market, thus insuring Nintendo's survival in at least one market.

6. Buy Nintendo T-shirts, folders, trading cards and other merchandise.

7. Do not buy any Microsoft game products. If you do, at least buy a PC version, not a X-box version.

8. Write letters to Microsoft pointing out that the X-box is LAST in sales worldwide, it probably won't do anything, but it will annoy the heck out of Bill Gates' secretaries.

9. Don't use X-box live, I'm sure there has to be some type of Boot-leg online engine out there that's just as good.

10. Post this list on every Message board and website you can find.

DP

More and more games these days are blood and guts....Write 3rd parties that no longer support
Rockstar Games...

Why Rockstar? The makers of the GTA games? Even though you abhor "blood and guts"? Curious...

3. Write to 3rd parties that have never supported the gamecube, again, say that the Gamecube has surpassed the X-box in worldwide sales AND that the Gamecube has been praised for being easy to develop for:
Among these are:
Bungie Software[/quote]

You will never get Bungie involved-alas, Micro$oft bought them over a few years ago, to give the X-Box one decent game. So a polite letter won't do the trick. A lot of money might...

Personally, I neither favour nor dislike Nintendo...sorry.

I wonder how well Sega is doing financially since they dropped the Dreamcast and just made software for other consoles.

Nintendo, if it needs to survive, needs to get more 3rd party support. They're not doing too well with that. It also needs more games, cheaper pricing, and a wider range of game genres. If it has to use blood and gore to sell, then why not? That's what hot anyway. There's still clean games on all three consoles.

I would rather this was about Sega, but it has already become 3rd party.
I agree. The gamecube games are the most fun out of all consoles, but I prefer p.c games anyway.
GTA is rubbish.
1 was very good though.
Save gamecube, save Nintendo! Sony, EA and Microsoft should go away.
(I know EA is only a 3rd party developer/publisher, but the way it treats games ("The Sims, which takes up about 5-6 spaces in the charts, all of them are boring, endless Fifa's, repetitive all the time, they kill gaming, because they sell, and the only make more of them, crushing inspiration or new thinking.))

I would rather this was about Sega, but it has already become 3rd party.
I agree. The gamecube games are the most fun out of all consoles, but I prefer p.c games anyway.
GTA is rubbish.
1 was very good though.
Save gamecube, save Nintendo! Sony, EA and Microsoft should go away.
(I know EA is only a 3rd party developer/publisher, but the way it treats games ("The Sims, which takes up about 5-6 spaces in the charts, all of them are boring, endless Fifa's, repetitive all the time, they kill gaming, because they sell, and the only make more of them, crushing inspiration or new thinking.))

Well If any company deserves to fold its nintendo because of thier annoying marketing habits. (Continualy pushing the release dates back When everyone damn well knows the game is ready to ship)

But its true. GC is the best of the lot of them.

That happens to every game in the world. I want half-life 2! I want Doom3! I want Rome!

maybe if Nintedo didn't make so many bad games it wouldn't lose so much support to X-box and PS2. as an X-box fan i can say that its grapghics and game quality is SO much better than your weak nintedo.

After playing Halo and Redfaction2 I can say WTH are you talking about?!

The graphics are not great and even worse they Look exactly the same.

Smash Bros. Mario Sunshine, Windwaker, Metroid prime, Pikmin,
X-box is good, with Halo, and Kotor, but the X-box games I really like are on the P.C, and have extra stuff, so it makes it redundant.
(Except PGR2, which is fantastic. (gotta love the Morgan Aero))
Anyway, the P.C is the best, and it's high time the console owners realised that. (half-life, Medieval, X2, Freespace, Far Cry, Kotor, Baldurs Gate 2 (the full 200h version) Rise Of Nations, AoE2, Call of Duty, AvP2 Z: steel soldiers, Praetorians, OpFlash, Republic, Blitzkrieg, Moh:aa)

This thread is a joke, right? Whoever started this thread should never have crawled out from under his rock. I have a Gamecube and I enjoy it, but that isn't going to stop me enjoying other consoles.

Something to think about: Nintendo is working to change its image. Notice GC exclusive Resident Evil Zero?

No more fanboys please, there are video game forums where they expect to have to kick you out, this isn't one of them.

After playing Halo and Redfaction2 I can say WTH are you talking about?!

The graphics are not great and even worse they Look exactly the same.

I'm no console fanboy, I just want Nintendo to sell the best, but the p.c to destroy them all, which it does, so I'm happy.

Yes, well we should help nintendo. I mean for the other systems you got loads of in-appropriate stuff for children. I have a PS2 only for final fantasy and such, but my parents like nintendo because they have actual standards we should do our best to support them.

"my parents like nintendo because they have actual standards we should do our best to support them."

Because your parents can't enforce their own standards? Seriously, 'adult' entertainment (In this case, violent video games) is ok; if you don't want to play them, then don't! Relying on any organisation, company, group or individual outside yourself to ensure you only view appropriate material is not the way to do things.

The Xbox and PS2 are capable of superior graphics to the Gamecube. Nintendo have a fairly unique visual style, however, so their games still look fantastic.

This discussion appears to have already descended to the subjective realm of individual preference. I hope everyone sees this and stops trying to persuade people to change their minds.

Perhaps Sega and Nintendo should have merged a long time ago?

I particularly liked Sega more than anything. I'm sorry, but a blue hedgehog beats the crap out of a plumber.

Anyway, the reason nintendo is dropping is because X-box and PS are doing more with their systems. X-box has more capabilities, and PS has a wider range of games, since you can play both PS1 and PS2 games on one system.

Add to that the fact that Nintendo is more geared to a younger audience, which simply isn't as large as the rest of the community. I bought my PS2 on that premise: more teen and mature games, less cutesy kid games.

Add to that: While Nintendo does have some of the most popular games (ex: Super Smash Bros. and Zelda), the other systems have more of the less-popular games than Nintendo: All of Nintendo's popularity is in those two games, and the waning fad of Pokemon. The other systems have more popularity total, spread around in many different games.

Segatendo? I wish, but the corporates at Sony and Microsoft think that what the public wants is more of the same, and the public buys it. I see so many people pick up trash, and go "ooh, pokemon/star wars/star trek/ fifa" Sonic is king.

The maturity of most of the arbitrarily violent games on systems these days is debatable. In other words, simplysticking in blood, gore, or sex doesn't make a game mature. However, shallow, 'adult-oriented' games are what sell to the 'casual gamer' and that is possibly a cause for Nintendo's decline.

I particularly liked Sega more than anything. I'm sorry, but a blue hedgehog beats the crap out of a plumber.

Anyway, the reason nintendo is dropping is because X-box and PS are doing more with their systems. X-box has more capabilities, and PS has a wider range of games, since you can play both PS1 and PS2 games on one system.

Add to that the fact that Nintendo is more geared to a younger audience, which simply isn't as large as the rest of the community. I bought my PS2 on that premise: more teen and mature games, less cutesy kid games.

Add to that: While Nintendo does have some of the most popular games (ex: Super Smash Bros. and Zelda), the other systems have more of the less-popular games than Nintendo: All of Nintendo's popularity is in those two games, and the waning fad of Pokemon. The other systems have more popularity total, spread around in many different games.

Nintendo has the problem of icons. They have the Mario cast, the Zelda cast and pokemon. The first few games anyone is going to mention when you ask them for GC games include at least one character of these three casts.
Okay, it's product recognition. But it also sucks. Have you ever played Mario Party 4? God that fucking bored the shit right out of me after three games.


Rather good games sadly go unrecognized. Such as Freedom Fighters ... shit that rocked. Good b-movie story, controls are almost MADE for the GC and a fun engine.


You want to support Nintendo? Buy their fucking products. They cater towards two groups: teens and people with a solid group of friends who spend lots of time together. Alone FF:CC might be annoying or boring but with four people it becomes a god damned orgy.
Most of the games aren't of the stealthy, strategic variety. They're fun and fast-paced. Freedom Fighters with four players .. damnit did that ever kick ass. So much carnage. Same with Smash Brothers Melee.


I don't think that we've heard the last of them, considering that the iron-fisted and empty-headed old CEO is gone now and Squarenix are back with them. And Sony wouldn't want them to vanish completely either. It's a good idea to keep a small competitor around whom you also make money off of (by owning most of Squarenix) than risking an upstart actually fucking up your monpoly.

yeah i support nintendo still....had all their sysems to date and will continue buying them

Nintendo has the problem of icons. They have the Mario cast, the Zelda cast and pokemon. The first few games anyone is going to mention when you ask them for GC games include at least one character of these three casts.
Okay, it's product recognition. But it also sucks. Have you ever played Mario Party 4? God that f--- bored the shit right out of me after three games.


Rather good games sadly go unrecognized. Such as Freedom Fighters ... shit that rocked. Good b-movie story, controls are almost MADE for the GC and a fun engine.


You want to support Nintendo? Buy their f--- products. They cater towards two groups: teens and people with a solid group of friends who spend lots of time together. Alone FF:CC might be annoying or boring but with four people it becomes a god damned orgy.
Most of the games aren't of the stealthy, strategic variety. They're fun and fast-paced. Freedom Fighters with four players .. damnit did that ever kick ass. So much carnage. Same with Smash Brothers Melee.


I don't think that we've heard the last of them, considering that the iron-fisted and empty-headed old CEO is gone now and Squarenix are back with them. And Sony wouldn't want them to vanish completely either. It's a good idea to keep a small competitor around whom you also make money off of (by owning most of Squarenix) than risking an upstart actually f--- up your monpoly.

He's got it. That's exactly the problem they have, and exactly the only thing you can do to really help. Buy the games. Or not.

Oh, and here's a thought...A game for all systems, like Melee, only including famou characters from all systems (sonic included...Why the heck wasn't he in melee!?!?). Your immediate reaction would be, "They would never go for it!" but wait! There are three ideas for profit that i can think of: 1) They each make it, and they get the profit of whatever they sell (which would be bad if you're slow to sell, like nintendo seems to be)...2) They each get a percentage based on what they sell ex: you sell 50% of the games, you get 50% of total profit (If you have high-priced games, you lose, since you only 5 games, even though you would have made a lot of money. Similarly, if you have low-priced games, you can sell a lot more, and still gain a lot of profit)...3) They each agree on a set percentage, maybe divided evenly, maybe not: no matter how much you sell, you get a set percentage (which is good, too, because if you don't sell squat, you still get money. This again would help nintendo).
I think it could work, and i would certainly buy such a game.

Stupid server!!!!!

The mods need to hurry up and update to the new one!

... Nintendo, is in servere danger!

......X-box is LAST in sales

Why is Nintendo in danger and not Xbox?

... Nintendo, is in servere danger!

......X-box is LAST in sales

Why is Nintendo in danger and not Xbox?

Because Micro$oft, who make the X-Box, have near infinite money to pump into the X-Box, thanks to all the stupid people out there using Windows...Nintendo doesn't have that kind of monopoly to draw resources from.

Nintendo is floundering because it's losing touch with it's fan base. This intentional marketing towards kids is killing them, especially with their flagship games, like Zelda and Mario Brothers. The people who grew up on those games are in their 20s and 30s now. Their tastes have evolved more. They don't want a cartoony Zelda (did anyone else see the first design scheme for the latest Zelda game, before they switched it to the cartoon style?). The kids that they are marketing their games to now don't care any more about Mario or Link than they do about Pokemon or one of those Yu-Gi-Oh dipshits. They're losing their reliable fan base, the people who grew up on their games, because they aren't making games for those fans anymore.

Nintendo is floundering because it's losing touch with it's fan base. This intentional marketing towards kids is killing them, especially with their flagship games, like Zelda and Mario Brothers. The people who grew up on those games are in their 20s and 30s now. Their tastes have evolved more. They don't want a cartoony Zelda (did anyone else see the first design scheme for the latest Zelda game, before they switched it to the cartoon style?). The kids that they are marketing their games to now don't care any more about Mario or Link than they do about Pokemon or one of those Yu-Gi-Oh dipshits. They're losing their reliable fan base, the people who grew up on their games, because they aren't making games for those fans anymore.

2. Write 3rd parties that no longer support (Or have hinted at no longer supporting) the Gamecube and or GBA and ask them to support the gamecube, don't forget to point out that the Gamecube now outsells the X-box in worldwide numbers AND that the Gamecube is easy to develop for:
Among these are:

Factor 5


Well I've heard rumors about a fourth Rogue Squadron installment for GC (or its successor); Star Wars Rogue Squadron IV: New Rebellion (it might also be known as Battle Squadron)