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I wonder what sort of things will be commonplace in 500 years that absolutely repulse the sane today?

For example, the treatment of gays; accepted now, lynched in the 1400s.

I figure there'll either be a wide-scale purge of religious nuts like me, or else wide-scale acceptance of same.

:? Aiera

Death penalty...Oh, and the practice of throwing old people into "homes"...

Also I believe that cellphones are the asbestos of our generation.

Death penalty...Oh, and the practice of throwing old people into "homes"...

Also I believe that cellphones are the asbestos of our generation.

The total opposite of the answers I expected...but still, interesting. I was saying what will things we hate now be thought of in 500 years time, but you've said what we do now acceptably will be thought of poorly in the future.

I think you're spot on about the death penalty.

I wonder what sort of things will be commonplace in 500 years that absolutely repulse the sane today?

For example, the treatment of gays; accepted now, lynched in the 1400s.

But if you go way back to ancient Greece, you have homosexuality being widely practiced and encouraged. Perhaps society goes in cycles?

i say flying cars, everything solor powered, and a space prgram that doesnt get minimum funding.
either that or we'l all be dead due to nuclear winter. one of the two.

Death penalty...Oh, and the practice of throwing old people into "homes"...

Also I believe that cellphones are the asbestos of our generation.

The total opposite of the answers I expected...but still, interesting. I was saying what will things we hate now be thought of in 500 years time, but you've said what we do now acceptably will be thought of poorly in the future.

I think you're spot on about the death penalty.

Sorry...I'm really sleepy and I read your post wrong :oops:

But to answer your question (correctly this time):
I'm an optimist, so I believe/hope we keep evolving, both mentally and socially.
I believe perhaps things like atheism might be viewed in a more positive light in the future, the theory has been made that religion is something our own evolution will take care of when we no longer need it.
Maybe it will also be necessary to restrict how many children people can have, something which is done in China today, but the rest of the world frowns upon.
And of course: Genetic engineering of humans. Creating "space humans" is something we may need to do if we intend to explore space.

I believe perhaps things like atheism might be viewed in a more positive light in the future, the theory has been made that religion is something our own evolution will take care of when we no longer need it.

Guess that depends. I'd argue we'll always need it, but then I view it as the highest truth.

What I would like to see is definitely a more enlightened understanding of religion, without these reactionary bigots to hold us back.

:? Aiera

I believe perhaps things like atheism might be viewed in a more positive light in the future, the theory has been made that religion is something our own evolution will take care of when we no longer need it.

Guess that depends. I'd argue we'll always need it, but then I view it as the highest truth.

What I would like to see is definitely a more enlightened understanding of religion, without these reactionary bigots to hold us back.

:? Aiera

Of course it's mere speculation. I think it was Freud who came up with the theory.

Of course this may happen as we gain more knowledge of the world around us, once we *know* something it's no longer "religion".
I mean:
Let's say a couple of astronauts bumped into god while exploring space (which I doubt will happen). They would return to earth with hard evidence and a bunch of scientific data plus an interview on tape. If this were to happen, then the belief in "god" would no longer be a religion, because we all would know for a fact that there is a good. God would become a fact instead of a "maybe" and therefore the definition of religion would no longer apply to god.

Religion being defined as:

"1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship."

Of course this is only one way in which we might evolve to the point of no religion. Other ways might be if we gained solid proof of there being no god(s). Or if we simply evolved and would no longer have this "need" for religion or worship.

Argh no...scratch that

In the future, sex would be a commonplace amongst adolecents. Think about it. Forbidden 200 years ago, becoming more common in 2004, imagine 2200!

Argh no...scratch that

In the future, sex would be a commonplace amongst adolecents. Think about it. Forbidden 200 years ago, becoming more common in 2004, imagine 2200!

Maybe everyone will be infertile and impotent by then because of flying-car emissions?

Argh no...scratch that

In the future, sex would be a commonplace amongst adolecents. Think about it. Forbidden 200 years ago, becoming more common in 2004, imagine 2200!

Maybe everyone will be infertile and impotent by then because of flying-car emissions?

yay! I mean....booo

you really think the Human race will last another 500 years? LOL

I reckon the cycle will have gone full circle, and all the evil left-wing will be gone (hope, hope)

I reckon the cycle will have gone full circle, and all the evil left-wing will be gone (hope, hope)There must needs be opposition in all things...

what fun would the world be without the common liberal? Talk radio would serve no purpose! :P

Argh no...scratch that

In the future, sex would be a commonplace amongst adolecents. Think about it. Forbidden 200 years ago, becoming more common in 2004, imagine 2200!

Sex amongst adolecents forbidden 200 years ago? I can see that. Especially with the fact that by the time you were in your mid to late teens, you were an adult and expected to be married and pumping out kids. So an adolecent would have been five, ten years old?

Really, the morality hasn't really changed in the last 6000 years. it's all basically been the same waves of wickedness and scarce righteousness.

The only thing you can control in this life is whether you are good or evil.

500 years from now It will be the same. Only the words used to describe it will change.

Jim

If this is now: Sperm counts are down 50% from fifty years ago, bone density has weakened as a result of floride in the water, cancer and autism has become common-place due to tainted vaccinations, Asthma rates increase with relative location to urban environments, childrens' cartoons employ photo-neuro color/light-dark transitions that have been linked to ADD, Prozac and Ritalin are over perscribed to adults and children alike, micro-chips are implanted under human skin and radio-chips are implanted into peoples brains, the US Constitution is systematically being dismantled as the military and the police continue to merge ---

One can only wonder if there will be a human race in 500 years...

If this is now: Sperm counts are down 50% from fifty years ago, bone density has weakened as a result of floride in the water, cancer and autism has become common-place due to tainted vaccinations, Asthma rates increase with relative location to urban environments, childrens' cartoons employ photo-neuro color/light-dark transitions that have been linked to ADD, Prozac and Ritalin are over perscribed to adults and children alike, micro-chips are implanted under human skin and radio-chips are implanted into peoples brains, the US Constitution is systematically being dismantled as the military and the police continue to merge ---

One can only wonder if there will be a human race in 500 years...


All this is very true and they say that the female will out last male but in the end no male no female looks like bad industries will be the end of us.

Cloning.

All that restricts it now is ignorance and ungrounded fear.

If this is now: Sperm counts are down 50% from fifty years ago, bone density has weakened as a result of floride in the water, cancer and autism has become common-place due to tainted vaccinations, Asthma rates increase with relative location to urban environments, childrens' cartoons employ photo-neuro color/light-dark transitions that have been linked to ADD, Prozac and Ritalin are over perscribed to adults and children alike, micro-chips are implanted under human skin and radio-chips are implanted into peoples brains, the US Constitution is systematically being dismantled as the military and the police continue to merge ---

One can only wonder if there will be a human race in 500 years...

I don't know if You watch the new "Star Trek" but if you look at it we are becoming BORG. Far to dependant on our tech. And Yes I know where and what machine I'm sayin this with.

Jim.

If this is now: Sperm counts are down 50% from fifty years ago, bone density has weakened as a result of floride in the water, cancer and autism has become common-place due to tainted vaccinations, Asthma rates increase with relative location to urban environments, childrens' cartoons employ photo-neuro color/light-dark transitions that have been linked to ADD, Prozac and Ritalin are over perscribed to adults and children alike, micro-chips are implanted under human skin and radio-chips are implanted into peoples brains, the US Constitution is systematically being dismantled as the military and the police continue to merge ---

One can only wonder if there will be a human race in 500 years...

I don't know if You watch the new "Star Trek" but if you look at it we are becoming BORG. Far to dependant on our tech. And Yes I know where and what machine I'm sayin this with.

Jim.

Too dependant? Maybe it's just part of evolution, it doesn't have to be bad. It may, in fact, be that which one day will allow us to survive.
We are the only species (as far as we know) that has a chance to fight the pattern of extinction that has been the rule on earth since life began.

If this is now: Sperm counts are down 50% from fifty years ago, bone density has weakened as a result of floride in the water, cancer and autism has become common-place due to tainted vaccinations, Asthma rates increase with relative location to urban environments, childrens' cartoons employ photo-neuro color/light-dark transitions that have been linked to ADD, Prozac and Ritalin are over perscribed to adults and children alike, micro-chips are implanted under human skin and radio-chips are implanted into peoples brains, the US Constitution is systematically being dismantled as the military and the police continue to merge ---

One can only wonder if there will be a human race in 500 years...

I don't know if You watch the new "Star Trek" but if you look at it we are becoming BORG. Far to dependant on our tech. And Yes I know where and what machine I'm sayin this with.

Jim.

Too dependant? Maybe it's just part of evolution, it doesn't have to be bad. It may, in fact, be that which one day will allow us to survive.
We are the only species (as far as we know) that has a chance to fight the pattern of extinction that has been the rule on earth since life began.

All species get a chance to fight extinction. That's the whole point.

Extinction (usually) wins.

Morality may change for the next 500 years. Who knows? Maybe in the future, cloning is not forbidden anymore, but it will be usual things.

And perhaps, homosexuals and lesbies may not forbidden anymore.

I wonder what sort of things will be commonplace in 500 years that absolutely repulse the sane today?

For example, the treatment of gays; accepted now, lynched in the 1400s.

But if you go way back to ancient Greece, you have homosexuality being widely practiced and encouraged.
Actually, that's complete bullshit.

I wonder what sort of things will be commonplace in 500 years that absolutely repulse the sane today?

For example, the treatment of gays; accepted now, lynched in the 1400s.

But if you go way back to ancient Greece, you have homosexuality being widely practiced and encouraged.
Actually, that's complete bullshit.

I wonder what sort of things will be commonplace in 500 years that absolutely repulse the sane today?

For example, the treatment of gays; accepted now, lynched in the 1400s.

But if you go way back to ancient Greece, you have homosexuality being widely practiced and encouraged.
Actually, that's complete bullshit.

Here's a blurb from Wikipedia on it:

It has been commonly believed that homosexual relationships were frequent in Ancient Greece. However, K.J. Dover points out that such relationships did not replace marriage between man and woman, but occurred before and beside it. A mature man would never have a mature male mate, but he would be the erastes (lover) to a young eromenos (loved one). In this relationship it was considered improper for the eromenos to feel desire, as that would not be masculine. Driven by desire and admiration, the erastes would devote himself unselfishly to providing all the education his eromenos required to thrive in society.


Greek Homosexuality, K.J. Dover, 1979, Gerald Duckworth & Co. Ltd, London

If this is now: Sperm counts are down 50% from fifty years ago, bone density has weakened as a result of floride in the water, cancer and autism has become common-place due to tainted vaccinations, Asthma rates increase with relative location to urban environments, childrens' cartoons employ photo-neuro color/light-dark transitions that have been linked to ADD, Prozac and Ritalin are over perscribed to adults and children alike, micro-chips are implanted under human skin and radio-chips are implanted into peoples brains, the US Constitution is systematically being dismantled as the military and the police continue to merge ---

One can only wonder if there will be a human race in 500 years...

I don't know if You watch the new "Star Trek" but if you look at it we are becoming BORG. Far to dependant on our tech. And Yes I know where and what machine I'm sayin this with.

Jim.

Too dependant? Maybe it's just part of evolution, it doesn't have to be bad. It may, in fact, be that which one day will allow us to survive.
We are the only species (as far as we know) that has a chance to fight the pattern of extinction that has been the rule on earth since life began.

All species get a chance to fight extinction. That's the whole point.

Extinction (usually) wins.

In the end, extinction wins every single battle...If we leave this place and spread like a cancer, it won't...

If secularization takes off, as it has in many areas, just about everything.

Of course it's mere speculation. I think it was Freud who came up with the theory.

Of course this may happen as we gain more knowledge of the world around us, once we *know* something it's no longer "religion".
I mean:
Let's say a couple of astronauts bumped into god while exploring space (which I doubt will happen). They would return to earth with hard evidence and a bunch of scientific data plus an interview on tape. If this were to happen, then the belief in "god" would no longer be a religion, because we all would know for a fact that there is a good. God would become a fact instead of a "maybe" and therefore the definition of religion would no longer apply to god.

Religion being defined as:

"1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship."

Of course this is only one way in which we might evolve to the point of no religion. Other ways might be if we gained solid proof of there being no god(s). Or if we simply evolved and would no longer have this "need" for religion or worship.

True, but then too...Christian religion has been around for 2000 years, Judaism even longer, and other religions for more or less time depending on which one we're talking about.

Doubt that'll change in another 500. I'd just hope that whatever reactionary damn-fool bigots plague religion currently all disappear.

:? Aiera

Of course it's mere speculation. I think it was Freud who came up with the theory.

Of course this may happen as we gain more knowledge of the world around us, once we *know* something it's no longer "religion".
I mean:
Let's say a couple of astronauts bumped into god while exploring space (which I doubt will happen). They would return to earth with hard evidence and a bunch of scientific data plus an interview on tape. If this were to happen, then the belief in "god" would no longer be a religion, because we all would know for a fact that there is a good. God would become a fact instead of a "maybe" and therefore the definition of religion would no longer apply to god.

Religion being defined as:

"1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship."

Of course this is only one way in which we might evolve to the point of no religion. Other ways might be if we gained solid proof of there being no god(s). Or if we simply evolved and would no longer have this "need" for religion or worship.

True, but then too...Christian religion has been around for 2000 years, Judaism even longer, and other religions for more or less time depending on which one we're talking about.

Doubt that'll change in another 500. I'd just hope that whatever reactionary damn-fool bigots plague religion currently all disappear.

:? Aiera

True... but look how fast religion got seperated from politics in western societies in the last 100 years (the US being an exception).