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I guess it depends how strict they are. Hehehe. :P

Well, I believe there's something after this present life, although what I'm not too sure. I don't think there's clouds and white robes and halos and wings and harping all day long, but there's something. So, if you're willing to be generous with your definition of "Heaven" then yes, I think I'm going there and so is everyone else.

Except, perhaps, Bush.

Well, I believe there's something after this present life, although what I'm not too sure. I don't think there's clouds and white robes and halos and wings and harping all day long, but there's something. So, if you're willing to be generous with your definition of "Heaven" then yes, I think I'm going there and so is everyone else.

Except, perhaps, Bush.

Well, I believe there's something after this present life, although what I'm not too sure. I don't think there's clouds and white robes and halos and wings and harping all day long, but there's something. So, if you're willing to be generous with your definition of "Heaven" then yes, I think I'm going there and so is everyone else.

Except, perhaps, Bush.

And the server. The server is definitely going to hell.

Well, I believe there's something after this present life, although what I'm not too sure. I don't think there's clouds and white robes and halos and wings and harping all day long, but there's something. So, if you're willing to be generous with your definition of "Heaven" then yes, I think I'm going there and so is everyone else.

Except, perhaps, Bush.

And the server. The server is definitely going to hell.

I have no idea and neither does anyone else...

Well, I believe there's something after this present life, although what I'm not too sure. I don't think there's clouds and white robes and halos and wings and harping all day long, but there's something. So, if you're willing to be generous with your definition of "Heaven" then yes, I think I'm going there and so is everyone else.

Ditto.

Except, perhaps, Bush.

:lol: Awww...c'mon now, if he's not with us in heaven he won't get to hear our complaints about his administration.

And the server. The server is definitely going to hell.

I'm usually not the type to condemn, but the server certainly is going to hell, at least in a metaphorical sense.

Apparently, I am supposed to specify a post mode.

Dear Pink Pony, I have to specify a post mode even when editing

Apparently, I am supposed to specify a post mode, again.

Dont know and dont really care if i go there then i go there

I hope I will, try to follow Jesus's teachings as well as be a good person overall.

I hope I will, try to follow Jesus's teachings as well as be a good person overall.

All living sentient beings are in a cycle. They live, they die, they go to a holding facility until they are reborn. How they spend their time in the holding facility is determined by how they lived their lives on earth. We demons help give them a hard time, especially the really arrogant ones. They’re the most fun to torment because they’re so powerless when they arrive. :twisted:
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Out of all the demons in this world, none is more frightening than man

Heaven is a drum corps bus.

Oh, and coincidently I also know which religion is the correct one. I’m not going to tell you which one it is though because it’s so much fun watching you all bicker over which one it is.
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Out of all the demons in this world, none is more frightening than man

I already live in God's country, so I am just a short distance from Heaven. :lol:

I really do try to do unto others as I would have them do unto me, so I'd like to think I might have a shot.

If only I believed there was a Heaven...that might help.

I can't verify the writer of the following, nor verify the actual circumstances surrounding this story, but with scripture, I can verify that the Biblical portion happened as stated. I found it to be fascinating reading.

For all you scientists out there and for all the students who have a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible...here's something that shows God's awesome creation and shows that He is still in control!

Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been called 'myth' in the Bible is true? The following is related by a consultant in the space program.

I think one of the most amazing things that God has for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland. They were checking the position of the sun, moon, and planets out in space where they would be 100 years and 1,000 years from now. We have to know this so we won't send a satellite up and have it
bump into something later, on its orbits. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite, and where the planets will be so the whole thing will not bog down.

They ran the computer measurements back and forth over the centuries and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant there was something wrong either with the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out and they said, 'What's wrong?' Well they found there is a day missing in space in elapsed time. They scratched their heads and tore their hair. There was no answer.

Finally, a Christian man on the team said, 'You know, one time I was in Sunday School and they talked about the sun standing still.'

While they didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said, 'Show us!' He got a Bible and went back to the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for anyone with 'common sense.' There they found the Lord saying to Joshua, 'Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee.'

Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy and if darkness fell they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still!
That's right - 'The sun stood still and the moon stayed - and hastened not to go down about a whole day!' The astronauts and scientists said, 'There is the missing day!'

They checked the computer going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes - not a whole day.

They read the Bible and there it was 'ABOUT (approximately) a day.' These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll still be in trouble 1,000 years from now. Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits.

As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 Kings: 'Hezekiah, on his deathbed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die.
Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof.

Isaiah said, 'Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?'

Hezekiah said, 'It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees...'

Isaiah spoke to the Lord and the Lord brought the shadow 10 degrees BACKWARD!

Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes! Twenty three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe!

Fact or Fiction? Let your heart be the judge!

References from King James Holy Bible*:
Joshua 10:8, 12-13
2 Kings 20:9-ll
Isaiah 38:8

Is there a "Hell no" answer?

it all realy depends on what heaven is to you (ok, i know, that probely dident make eney sense)

and if the server is not going to hell litery lets bring hell to it i've got the gas if someone eles has the TNT

i hate this *.*. server

what if you want to say "no"

Man, I hope not. If I wind up in heaven, the God's got some seriously low standards for entry. I mean, if I end up in heaven, about the only people left for hell are televangelists, lawyers, and hypocritical Christians.

Now that I think about it, heaven might not be so bad a place after all. :lol:

It depends on who's heaven we're talking here. If the Jews are right, then no, I'm not, because there is no heaven. If the Taoists are right, then no, I'm certainly not trying to follow The Way. If the Mormons are right, maybe. If the Cathlics are right, nope.

Hmm... odds seem to be stacked against me. Hmm... :roll:

Whatever. Live life for the moment!

I have no idea, guess I'll know when I get there.

Cool story, Canuck. It made it into Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.htm

If there is a Heaven and Hell, and Hell took over Heaven, do u think hell would tell us that they did? so could we be trying to go to the wrong place? :?

I can't verify the writer of the following, nor verify the actual circumstances surrounding this story, but with scripture, I can verify that the Biblical portion happened as stated. I found it to be fascinating reading.

For all you scientists out there and for all the students who have a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible...here's something that shows God's awesome creation and shows that He is still in control!

Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been called 'myth' in the Bible is true? The following is related by a consultant in the space program.

I think one of the most amazing things that God has for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland. They were checking the position of the sun, moon, and planets out in space where they would be 100 years and 1,000 years from now. We have to know this so we won't send a satellite up and have it
bump into something later, on its orbits. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite, and where the planets will be so the whole thing will not bog down.

They ran the computer measurements back and forth over the centuries and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal, which meant there was something wrong either with the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out and they said, 'What's wrong?' Well they found there is a day missing in space in elapsed time. They scratched their heads and tore their hair. There was no answer.

Finally, a Christian man on the team said, 'You know, one time I was in Sunday School and they talked about the sun standing still.'

While they didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said, 'Show us!' He got a Bible and went back to the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for anyone with 'common sense.' There they found the Lord saying to Joshua, 'Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee.'

Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy and if darkness fell they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still!
That's right - 'The sun stood still and the moon stayed - and hastened not to go down about a whole day!' The astronauts and scientists said, 'There is the missing day!'

They checked the computer going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes - not a whole day.

They read the Bible and there it was 'ABOUT (approximately) a day.' These little words in the Bible are important, but they were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll still be in trouble 1,000 years from now. Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits.

As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 Kings: 'Hezekiah, on his deathbed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die.
Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof.

Isaiah said, 'Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees?'

Hezekiah said, 'It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees...'

Isaiah spoke to the Lord and the Lord brought the shadow 10 degrees BACKWARD!

Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes! Twenty three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe!

Fact or Fiction? Let your heart be the judge!

References from King James Holy Bible*:
Joshua 10:8, 12-13
2 Kings 20:9-ll
Isaiah 38:8

I had read that before..but good job!

Cool story, Canuck. It made it into Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.htm
Well I read the debunking and it clearly is not scientific. It deals a lot in what ifs, and pure speculation, especially the part about the clock.

Believe what you like. I know I will. :lol:

Cool story, Canuck. It made it into Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.htm
Well I read the debunking and it clearly is not scientific. It deals a lot in what ifs, and pure speculation, especially the part about the clock.

Believe what you like. I know I will. :lol:Ummm, Canuck? We've agreed a lot in the past, but on this one, I think you're seriously misrepresenting the debunking here. There's no speculation in there.

Absolutely without an doubt I'm going to Heaven, and I can't wait. I look forward to it actually!!!

Absolutely without an doubt I'm going to Heaven, and I can't wait. I look forward to it actually!!!So does that mean that if you were given the opportunity to die tomorrow with a clean soul, you would take it?

Cool story, Canuck. It made it into Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.htm
Well I read the debunking and it clearly is not scientific. It deals a lot in what ifs, and pure speculation, especially the part about the clock.

Believe what you like. I know I will. :lol:Ummm, Canuck? We've agreed a lot in the past, but on this one, I think you're seriously misrepresenting the debunking here. There's no speculation in there.
Tons of speculation and innuendo:

It's not likely any contemporary of Joshua's could have recorded the length of time

As it turns out, the "23 hours and 20 minutes" figure was almost certainly an amount of time chosen by the legend's originator

Since we have no idea exactly what the "dial of Ahaz" was, nor how much time was represented by one of its units, we cannot make any real estimate as to how far the sun actually moved.

We can only speculate, but it seems likely that once the originator of this legend

Regardless of the amount of time involved, the discovery of a "missing" period of time remains implausible.

Mr. Hill heard a "lost day" legend that had been circulating for many years, embellished it with some details about NASA scientists

Poor debunking effort.

probably not.

All hail the pink pony, lord and savior of all. Her son Jeff will reappear to the masses and make good his claims of slavation. Those who accept him will be taken onto the back of the Pony and taken to Pony heaven where the angry german stomping kittens stomp etenerally.
-the book of pony, ch.34, vs 3-7

For my crimes against religious dogma, I must burn in the pits of torment.

Best stock up on the SPF40,000.

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Moonshine
CrystalDragon on Espernet IRC

I'll find out if I smear my ankles with goosefat and go bungeejumping.

probably not.

All hail the pink pony, lord and savior of all. Her son Jeff will reappear to the masses and make good his claims of slavation. Those who accept him will be taken onto the back of the Pony and taken to Pony heaven where the angry german stomping kittens stomp etenerally.
-the book of pony, ch.34, vs 3-7
Yeah you are probably right.

I think so...I don't think I've ever done anything to personally piss off whatever higher being(s) control things. And I'd certainly hope that the Christianity that is tolerant of all people is the one that ends up in control...or else I'd probably quit (quit heaven and go, I don't know, be a ghost or something).

It's extremely hard to get into heaven immediately. You would have to be perfect, because only perfection is allowed in heaven. Therefore, you go to Pergatory for a certain amount of time until your soul is purified and perfect. Most people don't go to Heaven or straight to Hell either. You have to be genuinely evil to go to Hell. How you behave on earth depends how long you are in Pergatory.

what if you want to say "no"

I wanted to add that choice but there's a limit to how many you're allowed to put up- and the 2nd choice was too valuable to leave out. Man I hope the two poeple who clicked that one are just being silly asses...

Where's option 6: No one goes to hell, we all get resurrected, but we get sorted into cooler parts of Heaven depending on how good we were :)

Absolutely without an doubt I'm going to Heaven, and I can't wait. I look forward to it actually!!!So does that mean that if you were given the opportunity to die tomorrow with a clean soul, you would take it?

interesting question. If God were to offer me the chance to "die" or to live the rest of my life out, I would have to say I would "die". I mean to be able to spend eternity with Him in Heaven...oh yeah!!! But that is a hard question to answer really.....

Yes, I am going to heaven. Specificly, about Early July.

Jim

dbl post..

Absolutely without an doubt I'm going to Heaven, and I can't wait. I look forward to it actually!!!So does that mean that if you were given the opportunity to die tomorrow with a clean soul, you would take it?

interesting question. If God were to offer me the chance to "die" or to live the rest of my life out, I would have to say I would "die". I mean to be able to spend eternity with Him in Heaven...oh yeah!!! But that is a hard question to answer really.....

I find the idea of happily choosing an early death to be very disturbing and scary. Suicide bombers anybody?

Option 4 and 5 are equally applicable. I chose 4.

I was thinking that Option 4 would be Agnostic, and Option 5 Atheist. They are different.

Where's option 6: No one goes to hell, we all get resurrected, but we get sorted into cooler parts of Heaven depending on how good we were :)

In Jewish Kabal, in the understanding of the Metatron, one learns that there are 900 levels of Heaven.

Anyone can go to heaven if they repent before they die, provided that they have not performed witchcraft.

Anyone can go to heaven if they repent before they die, provided that they have not performed witchcraft.

Holy fuck! :shock:

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Absolutely without an doubt I'm going to Heaven, and I can't wait. I look forward to it actually!!!So does that mean that if you were given the opportunity to die tomorrow with a clean soul, you would take it?

interesting question. If God were to offer me the chance to "die" or to live the rest of my life out, I would have to say I would "die". I mean to be able to spend eternity with Him in Heaven...oh yeah!!! But that is a hard question to answer really.....

I find the idea of happily choosing an early death to be very disturbing and scary. Suicide bombers anybody?

whatever...

I'm just very comfortable in my relationship with Christ. Like I said if He was the one offering the choice...if it was up to me, or if was any other circumstances...then ofcourse I wouldn't. It is not like I"m going to go kill myself. Get a grip dude...

I was thinking that Option 4 would be Agnostic, and Option 5 Atheist. They are different.

I am an atheist; I do not believe in a god, and I make no claim to the existence of spiritual knowledge.

I see no evidence for god, so I do not believe in god. Note the wording.

I think we all are already in hell. This when we could make this planet into a real heaven, but only if we would work for it. Like stop collectively to be greedy, et cetera. And no, thats not a joke. I doubt there is any 'after life' though. Just this one ride, no 'to be continued' when you let out your last breath.

The whole concept of 'after life' smells of fear of death. "I'm afraid to think I'm only temporarily... lets make up this fairytale about a 'part 2' that will last forever in this place where everything is so cool!! But only for the cool people, for the uncool one's there is a place where everything is not cool at all!! Yeah, that'll teach 'em to be cruel to me and my friends!!!"

Well i don't know about anyone else but my whole family deserves to burn in hell..actually by the way we act we are probably already there.. (i hate them so much o_O) Muwahahahahaha o_O

Anyone can go to heaven if they repent before they die, provided that they have not performed witchcraft.

Holy f---! :shock:

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LMFAO. Too bad I can't scrub mine out *to many demons in there. Yikes :twisted: *

* and a couple of gods too*

:lol:

Jim SC

Well i don't know about anyone else but my whole family deserves to burn in hell..actually by the way we act we are probably already there.. (i hate them so much o_O) Muwahahahahaha o_O

That's... really kind of sad. :P

There is no heaven.

Its all crap.

Hell yes I'm going to heaven!

:lol:

Hail Satan!

Jim SC

Hell yes I'm going to heaven!

:lol:

Hail Satan!

Jim SC

Is this after the Legions of Hell rise up for the Battle of Armageddon and emerge victorious?

Just wondering.

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I'm just very comfortable in my relationship with Christ. Like I said if He was the one offering the choice...if it was up to me, or if was any other circumstances...then ofcourse I wouldn't. It is not like I"m going to go kill myself. Get a grip dude...The reason I find it interesting (and the reason I asked the question) is because that means you would be willing to give up a life on earth with those you love and with the potential for such rich and wonderful experiences for an experience that you essentially know nothing about (heaven) and with no guarantee that you would ever see your loved ones again (Because there's the possibility they might become apostate, etc).

Perhaps that's part of the reason I'm an agnostic now--I have no idea what the afterlife holds, assuming there is one. I've seen plenty of people spout off about it, but even the most creative (Dante for instance) are kind of hazy on what heaven is actually like. But to a certain extent, I know what this life is like, and I know what potential it holds, so I plan to live this one with everything I've got, rather than hold out hope for a future life that may be better, may be boring as anything, or may not even be.

Well i don't know about anyone else but my whole family deserves to burn in hell..actually by the way we act we are probably already there.. (i hate them so much o_O) Muwahahahahaha o_O

That's... really kind of sad. :P


Yeah it is isnt it.... Muwahahahahaha o_O

Anyone can go to heaven if they repent before they die, provided that they have not performed witchcraft.

Q: I'm just curious as to what people's opinion on this is. What do you believe happens when you pray for forgiveness? Does God give you a clean slate and tell everyone you offended to lay off of you or you are crossing him? Or do you punished or forgiven by God through the people on Earth? Or do you believe something totally different? Furthermore, if you honestly believe God forgave you for whatever sin you committed, that you are free to act anyway you please even if it means committing the same sin over and over again?

A: Dear 20 Questions,

You tended to reach more closely to the truth the further you probed. You see, as shocking as it may seem, God forgives all of our sins, no matter how heinous, so long as we ask Jesus into our lives. In other words, you can murder, rape, rob, pillage, plunder, sexually molest or listen to Motley Crew albums backwards and you're still going to Heaven, so long as you accept Jesus at some point before you are called to glory. This means, of course, that Heaven will be populated by some of the most egregious humans ever known to mankind whose one claim to fame, as my dear friend, Betty Bowers, is wont to point out, is an impeccable sense of timing. If Timothy McVeigh told that priest who visited him that he, that moment, accepted Jesus as His Savior, Tim will be sipping aperitifs and enjoying the view from his skybox in Heaven, come Judgment Day. But make no mistake: there is still a significant deterrent to sinning for too long a period before acquiescing to God -- you never know when or how your life will be taken. You could be the recipient of lightning, the unintended target of a drive-by shooting, or the second fatal victim of a Laura Bush driving accident. If you were unsaved at the time, you are going straight to Hell. This, of course, means that Heaven will consist largely of evil folks who suffered long-term terminal illnesses and had a chance to accept our Savior just before their predicted deaths. Living in Heaven may very well be like walking the streets of Manhattan very late at night.

Praying all will have at least 10 seconds notice before experiencing their terminal fates,
Brother Harry Hardwick
Landover Baptist Church (landoverbaptist.com)

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I'm just very comfortable in my relationship with Christ. Like I said if He was the one offering the choice...if it was up to me, or if was any other circumstances...then ofcourse I wouldn't. It is not like I"m going to go kill myself. Get a grip dude...The reason I find it interesting (and the reason I asked the question) is because that means you would be willing to give up a life on earth with those you love and with the potential for such rich and wonderful experiences for an experience that you essentially know nothing about (heaven) and with no guarantee that you would ever see your loved ones again (Because there's the possibility they might become apostate, etc).

Perhaps that's part of the reason I'm an agnostic now--I have no idea what the afterlife holds, assuming there is one. I've seen plenty of people spout off about it, but even the most creative (Dante for instance) are kind of hazy on what heaven is actually like. But to a certain extent, I know what this life is like, and I know what potential it holds, so I plan to live this one with everything I've got, rather than hold out hope for a future life that may be better, may be boring as anything, or may not even be.

I see, and understand. To better explain my answer lets put it this way. I know that God will not come down here and ask me if I want to die. Therefore, I can answer with confidence that I would choice to die. However, that still doesn't really change my answer. I know what Heaven is like, and I know that this life pales in comparision to that of Heaven.

Yes, I would miss my loved one and so on...but know that really isn't going to happen (God isn't going to knock on my door and say hey...ya wanna die today and be with my in glory...or would ya rather wait a lil bit. So since that really isn't goin to happy...I don't have anything to worry about.

I'm sorry that you are agnostic...do I feel sorry for you no. I just however feel that not knowing must be a sadder state that knowing.

I'm sorry that you are agnostic...do I feel sorry for you no. I just however feel that not knowing must be a sadder state that knowing.Well, I'm glad you don't feel sorry for me, because I certainly don't feel sorry for me, and I was once a believer as certain of my future as you are.

Being agnostic is, for me, more satisfying even though, maybe even because, it's more difficult. I mean, it's a little more challenging to live a moral and ethical life when you don't have that imposing father figure standing over you saying, (as Kevin Smith put it) "Do it and I'll effing spank you."

And the not knowing is also refreshing from an intellectual standpoint. I mean, admitting that one can never fully know the mind of God is liberating because it opens up so many potential paths for exploration that a curious person could try for a millenia and never get bored of searching. It's a choice I certainly don't regret making, giving up the certainty of faith for the uncertainty of doubt. I think recgnizing ambiguity is one of the greatest philosophical achievements in human history.

no.

Really why does it matter where we go or don't? I mean when we die if we go to hell that's fine. Pyro maniacs!! Fire Fire everywhere! And if you go to heaven you can get high with some carebares. Either way.. Who cares?! We are all going to die and we are all going to go somewhere.

Who cares if it's not where you want to be. I don't care where you want to go!

[quote=Big Jim P]Hell yes I'm going to heaven!

:lol:

Hail Satan!

Jim SC

Is this after the Legions of Hell rise up for the Battle of Armageddon and emerge victorious?

Just wondering.

Heaven and hell are the life you make for yourself on this earth, And I get to go to a better life while I still breath

Jim SC

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as an atheïst and someone who doesn't believe in any sort of afterlife, i believe i'll be gone after i die. I'll just cease to exist, no further explanation.

NO.

Hell is where all the interesting people are going to be.

Andy Warhol, Madonna, the Beatles, the Rollings, Elvis (?), all Heavy Metal bands...

If you are bad enough, you get to torment Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin and George W. Bush.

It may not be Heaven, but it can be paradise. If you are truly evil in your heart.

I don't want to be with Mother Theresa, Ghandi or all the bunch of catholic Popes (well, the Borgia Pope may be an exception, but it is most probable he'll be in hell, with his niece Lucrecia).

Heaven is a Christian concept....but..I can tell you that according to my tribes beliefs...upon my death I will be met by Black Man and he will guide me on my journey into the Darkened Lands where I will dwell with my ancestors in peace.

I don't want to be with Mother Theresa, Ghandi or all the bunch of catholic Popes (well, the Borgia Pope may be an exception, but it is most probable he'll be in hell, with his niece Lucrecia).

The Popes in heaven? If there was such a place and if there was any justice... they'd be asigned the hottest seat in Hell :evil:

AS LONG AS YOU EACH BRING A SIDE OF MEAT, OR A KEG OF BEER WHEN YOU DIE, YOU CAN COME IN. PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN COME EMPTY HANDED AND FEAST ON MY HEAVENLY DELIGHT WILL BE SORELY MISTAKEN AND SENT TO SATAN.

AS LONG AS YOU EACH BRING A SIDE OF MEAT, OR A KEG OF BEER WHEN YOU DIE, YOU CAN COME IN. PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN COME EMPTY HANDED AND FEAST ON MY HEAVENLY DELIGHT WILL BE SORELY MISTAKEN AND SENT TO SATAN.

You do not get to decide my heaven, where it will be, when I reach It or what angel I find.

Jim

I don't want to be with Mother Theresa, Ghandi or all the bunch of catholic Popes (well, the Borgia Pope may be an exception, but it is most probable he'll be in hell, with his niece Lucrecia).

The Popes in heaven? If there was such a place and if there was any justice... they'd be asigned the hottest seat in Hell :evil:

Sorry, I think you are right. They will be in Hell, and not able to participate in the fun. But as they claim God is on their side...

AS LONG AS YOU EACH BRING A SIDE OF MEAT, OR A KEG OF BEER WHEN YOU DIE, YOU CAN COME IN. PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN COME EMPTY HANDED AND FEAST ON MY HEAVENLY DELIGHT WILL BE SORELY MISTAKEN AND SENT TO SATAN.

You do not get to decide my heaven, where it will be, when I reach It or what angel I find.

Jim

BUT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEEF RIBS.

I'm going to MY version of Heaven, that's for sure!

I don't want to be with Mother Theresa, Ghandi or all the bunch of catholic Popes (well, the Borgia Pope may be an exception, but it is most probable he'll be in hell, with his niece Lucrecia).

The Popes in heaven? If there was such a place and if there was any justice... they'd be asigned the hottest seat in Hell :evil:

Sorry, I think you are right. They will be in Hell, and not able to participate in the fun. But as they claim God is on their side...

Yes, well, a claim is easily made... Sure would like to see some proof of it! Like, the Pope showing some divine wisdom in his decision making.. hehe By the way, we are talking about the same church who supported the nazi's, right? Nay, I doubt God is on their side. :)

AS LONG AS YOU EACH BRING A SIDE OF MEAT, OR A KEG OF BEER WHEN YOU DIE, YOU CAN COME IN. PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN COME EMPTY HANDED AND FEAST ON MY HEAVENLY DELIGHT WILL BE SORELY MISTAKEN AND SENT TO SATAN.

You do not get to decide my heaven, where it will be, when I reach It or what angel I find.

Jim

BUT I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEEF RIBS.

Hmm.

Looks forward to beef ribs. Created everything. Does some interesting things with ribs...Cant get some believer to sacrifice a cow anymore.

Piss poor god to me.

Jim SC

I always liked that old Talking Heads song called..."Heaven".

The chorus of the song was "Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens".

I think David Byrne was pointing out that every single thing each of us enjoys and considers "perfectly heavenly" would be strongly viewed as "perfectly hellish" by someone else. For some people, having to listen to choirs and harps for eternity would be sheer hell! My heaven would have to include lots of rock music - much of the world would hate that though.

Therefore Heaven would have to be somewhere where nothing ever happened so no one would ever experience something they didn't like. The boredom of that would be hellish, no?

im not going to heaven when i die im going to the floating island of mumjambando where i will have sex and drink wine for the rest of eternity :D

hell na....at this point i am NOT going to heaven

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im too evil to even be considered for the guest list

If you think about it, that would make a good comedy sketch. You could have people trying to get into heaven but lining up as if they are trying to get into a nightclub and St. Peter as a bouncer.

His followers said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look here it is', or 'Look there it is'.

Rather, the father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people do not see it"

-Gospel of Thomas 113

Isn't it odd how so much has been written and speculated about hell and so little about heaven? I think that's because it's easier to imagine. :?

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