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Pray for His Honliness Catholics, in his time of need

Rotovia
14-04-2004, 06:26
For most of his life our Pope has dedicated himself to serving our spiritual needs and bringing the wprld closer to peace, and though I have joked about him quite a bit I call on Catholics and non-Catholics alike to join together and pray for him in his hour of need.

http://www.antipas.org/images/praying_pope.jpeg

Hail Mary,
full of grace,
the Lord is with you.
Blessed are you among women
and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners
now and at the hour of our death.
Tumaniaa
14-04-2004, 06:27
Ok...so you have a thing for the pope...we get it.
Colodia
14-04-2004, 06:27
Why? My prayers are only for big important things! And if he's not dying, than my prayers ain't comin out!
Raysian Military Tech
14-04-2004, 06:28
hour of need? what does he need? He's da freakin pope!

No seriously, what's wrong?
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 06:30
Ok...so you have a thing for the pope...we get it.The other thrad was a joke. But as a Catholic I feel compelled to pray for him when he is in need.
Techmainia
14-04-2004, 06:31
what do they even need a pope for? he just sits there and thinks that he is helping the world by muttering to himslef
Techmainia
14-04-2004, 06:31
i am the anti pope
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 06:31
hour of need? what does he need? He's da freakin pope!

No seriously, what's wrong?Please be respectful, he is suffering from a number of physical ailment that have been reported as being quite severe in the last week.
Tumaniaa
14-04-2004, 06:32
Ok...so you have a thing for the pope...we get it.The other thrad was a joke. But as a Catholic I feel compelled to pray for him when he is in need.

:roll: Have fun with that...
Raysian Military Tech
14-04-2004, 06:33
hour of need? what does he need? He's da freakin pope!

No seriously, what's wrong?Please be respectful, he is suffering from a number of physical ailment that have been reported as being quite severe in the last week.that stinks

what exactly? Parkinsons?
Techmainia
14-04-2004, 06:33
Hail Mary,
full of grace,
the Lord is with you.
Blessed are you among women
and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners
now and at the hour of our death.


now what the hecl is that supposed to mean
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 06:35
hour of need? what does he need? He's da freakin pope!

No seriously, what's wrong?Please be respectful, he is suffering from a number of physical ailment that have been reported as being quite severe in the last week.that stinks

what exactly? Parkinsons?Amoung other things.
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 06:42
Hail Mary,
full of grace,
the Lord is with you.
Blessed are you among women
and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
Holy Mary, mother of God,
pray for us sinners
now and at the hour of our death.


now what the hecl is that supposed to mean
"Hail Mary" Can either mean a sign of respect, or more commonly a call the the Blessed Virgin.
"Full of Grace" We acknowledge her Grace and virtue.
"The Lord is with you" Both physically and spirtually Christ our Lord stand with his Mother.
"Blessed are you amoungst women" The Virgin is held above all man and women and is the symbol of maternity.
"Blessed is the fruit of you womb" Jesus, is the greatest gift to mankind.
"Holy Mary, Mother of God" As the Mother of Jesus and Queen of Heaven we respect her.
"Pray for us sinners" We are not worthy of the Gifts of God, btu yet we invoke her mercy.
"Now, and in the hour of our death" We ask that she goes to the Father and the Son in our names now, and again when we die.
Jay W
14-04-2004, 07:25
"Blessed are you amoungst women" The Virgin is held above all man and women and is the symbol of maternity.

Here is a serious question.

The rest of the Hail Mary prayer, I can understand the Catholice stand on. This verse makes no sense to me. The reason behind this confusion is the fact that the Catholic Church has always denied women the right to the priesthood. If God picked a woman over all men and women, then how does the Catholic Church make the decission that women are not worthy to lead the congregations to God?
Felis Lux
14-04-2004, 07:34
I'm not a Catholic, probably not a Christian, and I'm agnostic bordering on atheist as far as any religion's concerned. I frequently disagree with the Pope (stem cell research, contraception, homosexuality...) ... but he is a man who has dedicated his life to a cause he believes in, to what he believes is the benefit of mankind, and tirelessly sought for a gentler world, trying to persuade the overly trigger-happy leaders of governments around the world to think of another solution, while struggling through years of crippling infirmity.

I'm saddened to hear (from this website just now) that he seems to be taking a turn for the worse, and I do not see why some people appear to think that sharing a person's religious beliefs, or thinking that that person has spent their life effectively, are prerequisites of compassion.

I suppose (to reference last night's TV) steady-state theorists would, by your logic, feel no compassion for Stephen Hawking?
14-04-2004, 07:53
Man people are rude and so so disrespectful. I am in no way Catholic and I will pray for his well being and health tonight just because its a good thing to do and we should love everyone. People, come on now.
BackwoodsSquatches
14-04-2004, 08:00
It a good thing that hes so familiar with God...cuase im sure it wont be long...
14-04-2004, 08:04
Praying for the Pope is fine, but it's getting awfully close to his time to go, I would say. I don't "believe" in the Pope, per se, but I recognize his as a powerful office that can be of substantial use to the world, and having a younger, more active Pope may be a benefit..
14-04-2004, 08:06
I lost any respect for the Pope when I found out that he tried to dictate military policy to the USA and USSR. Though I'm sure that must have induced chuckles throughout the world. Let's pray for him, lest we be deprived of his hilarious obliviousness to his own irrelevance.
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 08:23
"Blessed are you amoungst women" The Virgin is held above all man and women and is the symbol of maternity.

Here is a serious question.

The rest of the Hail Mary prayer, I can understand the Catholice stand on. This verse makes no sense to me. The reason behind this confusion is the fact that the Catholic Church has always denied women the right to the priesthood. If God picked a woman over all men and women, then how does the Catholic Church make the decission that women are not worthy to lead the congregations to God?The Church's position on the place of women in the Preisthood is not one I fully understand, however the Church has held that women can best serve God in a role as a Nun.
14-04-2004, 08:24
I lost any respect for the Pope when I found out that he tried to dictate military policy to the USA and USSR. Though I'm sure that must have induced chuckles throughout the world. Let's pray for him, lest we be deprived of his hilarious obliviousness to his own irrelevance.

Yes, and pray for the UN, while you're at it. They're in the same boat. :lol:
14-04-2004, 08:32
Yes, and pray for the UN, while you're at it. They're in the same boat.
Damn, mate, you're right. As great as it would be to see the UN fade away, whom would we have for amusement if Kofi Annan and his fellow wannabe power brokers weren't around? Though I'm sure rounding up and shooting Kofi Annan (or is it Anan?) and his associates would be more amusing than watching their continued bumbling.
Toccatta Land
14-04-2004, 08:47
Ave Maria,
Gratia plena
Dominus tecum
Benedicta tu in mulieribus
Et benedictus fructus ventris
Ventris tuae, Jesus.
Ave Maria.

Ave Maria,
Mater Dei
Ora pro nobis peccatoribus
Nunc et in hora mortis
Et in hora mortis nostrae.
Ave Maria.
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 09:10
Ave Maria,
Gratia plena
Dominus tecum
Benedicta tu in mulieribus
Et benedictus fructus ventris
Ventris tuae, Jesus.
Ave Maria.

Ave Maria,
Mater Dei
Ora pro nobis peccatoribus
Nunc et in hora mortis
Et in hora mortis nostrae.
Ave Maria.
http://www.stclementchurch.org/weddings/popup/SchubertAveMaria.html I think Ave Maria is the most beutiful Hymn. You can listen to it there.
Urkaina
14-04-2004, 09:16
Is it just me, or does the Pope sound like Godfather when he speaks?
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 09:22
Is it just me, or does the Pope sound like Godfather when he speaks?Not sure what you mean, He does have respitory problems. But he's Polish, so I dunno.
Collaboration
14-04-2004, 09:29
Vatican II opened a door for the ordination of women as priests, but this Pope and Cardinal Ratzinger closed it. They venerate Mary but somehow that has always gone right along with restricting the institutional role of women.

This Pope has done a great deal of good politically, especially in Eastern Europe; he also has rebuilt bridges with the Easter Rite and even with Judaism; all this is admirable.

It's too bad this activism and vision did not extend to rethinking the nature of the priesthood. There is a severe shortage of priests in the US; a more progressive policy would find a sacramental role for the many able and dedicated women who have been preparing for years to accept it.
Texastambul
14-04-2004, 09:38
I call on Catholics and non-Catholics alike to join together and pray for him in his hour of need.


I'll pray that the pope accepts Jesus and turns away from false idolatry before it is too late...
Rotovia
14-04-2004, 09:52
I call on Catholics and non-Catholics alike to join together and pray for him in his hour of need.


I'll pray that the pope accepts Jesus and turns away from false idolatry before it is too late...And I pray that you do something other than go around agigitating.
Urkaina
14-04-2004, 10:19
Is it just me, or does the Pope sound like Godfather when he speaks?Not sure what you mean, He does have respiratory problems. But he's Polish, so I dunno.
I mean he's a dead ringer* for Don Vito Corleone :wink:

* Oh, I love morbid puns!
Toccatta Land
15-04-2004, 07:06
I call on Catholics and non-Catholics alike to join together and pray for him in his hour of need.


I'll pray that the pope accepts Jesus and turns away from false idolatry before it is too late...And I pray that you do something other than go around agigitating.

He's not doing anything you're not asking him to do. You ask us to pray for the Pope in his time of need. This man is praying for the Pope's safety, in his own manner and decision. You have no right to tell him that he is wrong to pray to save him in that way. I can pray that the Pope remains safe from all objects that have three edges and a sphere, if I want to. I'd be hoping for his protection from that danger. Texastambul is hoping for his protection from another danger.
Texastambul
15-04-2004, 08:03
Texastambul is hoping for his protection from another danger.

Thank you for your support: The truth is that the Pope is misleading millions of people into praying to him as an idol; the Catholic doctrine tells the people that they are removed from God and are only allowed to access him through their church -- this is counter to the Word of God!

Again, I will pray that all charlatans reveal themselves and seek forgivness.
At Lantis
15-04-2004, 08:06
I think you misunderstand - we don't pray to the Pope. We pray with and for him, but not to him.


Also, I think that women can be priests too - but the Catholic church is known for its conservatism, and has been so for centuries. They don't take easily to change.

The current Pope is one of the best there ever has been. His successor will find it hard to fill his shoes. To the person who said that a younger Pope might be an advantage - I'm not so sure... there have been Popes in the past who have started wars and misused their power (as humans will). Not that I think there will ever really be a 'young' Pope, since all the eligible Cardinals are old anyway.
Collaboration
15-04-2004, 11:47
'Lantis, is it possible for a Pope to just reire, and avoid these morbid transitions? I guess they're Pope for life no matter what?
15-04-2004, 11:49
Do you think if i prayed hard enough he'd let me have a go in his Pope-mobile?