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Could you really kill Hitler?

Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:12
Imagine you have traveld back in time, it is around the 1920s and you are at a small Austrian Café. There you meet a young Adõlf Hitler. Up unitl now has he expressed no anti-Semitism and is relatively innocent. Would you kill him?
Talespin
12-04-2004, 12:15
facsism and communism would have fought eventually, hitler just sped up the process, you never know, he might have saved lives in the long run
Onion Pirates
12-04-2004, 12:22
I'll keelhaul the lubber jest fer havin' a bad haircut, arrr...
New Mozambique
12-04-2004, 12:24
The man was actually a raging anti Semite for most of his life; he wasn't innocent at all.

He was really going by the '20s.
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:25
Sorry. I edited the thread title and ruined the poll.
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:26
xx
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:27
The man was actually a raging anti Semite for most of his life; he wasn't innocent at all.

He was really going by the '20s.This is a hypothetical.
Sdaeriji
12-04-2004, 12:29
No, I couldn't, because in my history, he would have already been killed (by me, although I wouldn't have known it then), and I would have no catalyst to make me want to go back in time and kill him.
12-04-2004, 12:30
No. Who knows how history would have turned out without Hitler. Chances are that someone just as bad or worse would've taken his place following the First World War.
12-04-2004, 12:42
Has anyone seen the "grandfather" Paradox?

Jim
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:42
No, I couldn't, because in my history, he would have already been killed (by me, although I wouldn't have known it then), and I would have no catalyst to make me want to go back in time and kill him.Let's go the whole way with the Linear Time Theory, you would never have gone back in time because the event never happened, therefore never removing Hitler from the timeline, therefore he would have excisted.
Dragons Bay
12-04-2004, 12:46
I'd re-educate him. If it doesn't work, I'm going to kidnap him and send him to the United States. Lord knows what's the world like when I come back to 2004. :shock:
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:47
I'd re-educate him. If it doesn't work, I'm going to kidnap him and send him to the United States. Lord knows what's the world like when I come back to 2004. :shock:lol. Or, you could get a bad haircut grow a dicky moustache and become Hitler.
Aliedel
12-04-2004, 12:47
Are you kidding me? That would be disastorous? Ever heard of the snowball effect or the butterfly effect I guess is what the kids are calling it these days it would be a total mess.
Dragons Bay
12-04-2004, 12:49
I'd re-educate him. If it doesn't work, I'm going to kidnap him and send him to the United States. Lord knows what's the world like when I come back to 2004. :shock:lol. Or, you could get a bad haircut grow a dicky moustache and become Hitler.

Ah. Now that's an idea. :shock:
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 12:49
Are you kidding me? That would be disastorous? Ever heard of the snowball effect or the butterfly effect I guess is what the kids are calling it these days it would be a total mess.For the purpose of this hypothetical we are only looking at the morality of punishing someone for something they haven't yet done vs letting them do it when you could have stopped it.
West - Europa
12-04-2004, 12:52
I'd ask for his autograph, perhaps one of his lame postcard paintings.
I'd make €€€€€
Superpower07
12-04-2004, 12:55
Imagine you have traveld back in time, it is around the 1920s and you are at a small Austrian Café. There you meet a young Adõlf Hitler. Up unitl now has he expressed no anti-Semitism and is relatively innocent. Would you kill him?

1. By then he already fought in WWI; he lost some part of his innocence

2. During the War it was believe he was hit by mustard gas and that somehow it knocked that key screw loose. Also, Hitler fought alongside his best friend in the war, who was a German Jew
Dragons Bay
12-04-2004, 12:56
I'd ask for his autograph, perhaps one of his lame postcard paintings.
I'd make €€€€€

Wow! Now THAT'S the best suggestion I've heard so far. :lol:
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 12:59
Has somebody been playing too much red alert?
Well, I have. Even though it is a basic tankrusher, they do that, and Stalin becomes all powerful and invades Europe, but with a bigger army.
Also, actually on the topic, yes, I could kill Hitler, if the possible effects were neglected. But, saying that, I don't actually know if I could kill at all.
Filamai
12-04-2004, 13:00
It was Hitler's own stupidity that made sure we're not all Sieg Heiling. Without him we might have had a more levelheaded version of him take over the world.

So no.
Kwaswhakistan
12-04-2004, 15:09
I can't go back in time, therefore, no comment.
Dragoneia
12-04-2004, 15:20
Id attempt to try and stop what ever cuased his insanity..but then agian with out world war 2 america wouldnt have been able to astablish itself as the strongest super power...but i woulda rather that not happen at the coast of a few million lives. well cant be halped now the only thing i would ever use time travle for any way would be for observation..changing time would be far to risky to do. :?
Illich Jackal
12-04-2004, 15:32
Imagine you have traveld back in time, it is around the 1920s and you are at a small Austrian Café. There you meet a young Adõlf Hitler. Up unitl now has he expressed no anti-Semitism and is relatively innocent. Would you kill him?

1. By then he already fought in WWI; he lost some part of his innocence

2. During the War it was believe he was hit by mustard gas and that somehow it knocked that key screw loose. Also, Hitler fought alongside his best friend in the war, who was a German Jew

Fighting in WWI doesn't mean he has 'lost some part of his innocence'. That's like calling a US marine a warcriminal because GWB sent him to iraq into an illegal war.
Illich Jackal
12-04-2004, 15:36
Basicly this problem is the same as the following:

could you sacrifice an innocent child when the as a result of this you would find a cure for aids?

I don't think i could, allthough i know the good thing to do is kill the child.
Moozimoo
12-04-2004, 15:41
Basicly this problem is the same as the following:

could you sacrifice an innocent child when the as a result of this you would find a cure for aids?

I don't think i could, allthough i know the good thing to do is kill the child.

you do realise you are talking about a man who sent 6000000 Jews and several million germans to their deaths?


did anyone see that program on channel 4, hitler:the rise of evil?
Rotovia
13-04-2004, 02:30
Basicly this problem is the same as the following:

could you sacrifice an innocent child when the as a result of this you would find a cure for aids?

I don't think i could, allthough i know the good thing to do is kill the child.

you do realise you are talking about a man who sent 6000000 Jews and several million germans to their deaths?


did anyone see that program on channel 4, hitler:the rise of evil?Yes, but we are weighing the value of one life against that of millions. Can we set a value to life?
DaChicagoBears
13-04-2004, 02:33
if i could go back in time.....i would go back to the early 1000's with today's technology and take over the world. :twisted:
Onion Pirates
23-04-2004, 17:58
The 20th century were once ruled by ye demigod named Morgoth but I went back in time and killed the lubber.

Hitler was a piker by compasrion, arrr.
Johnistan
23-04-2004, 18:02
Yes, if it would prevent all that suffering. I would, put a gun to his head and watch his brains fly out the back of his head.
NewXmen
24-04-2004, 09:20
I could kill him but won't. I don't like to screw around with timelines.
Rotovia
24-04-2004, 09:43
I could kill him but won't. I don't like to screw around with timelines.Damn SciFi fans :wink:
Camewot
24-04-2004, 09:48
I think I wouldent kill him cause I dont have the guts :P
If I did, I would even if it meant I would be speaking Russian if I came back to 2004
DemosthenesLocke
24-04-2004, 10:18
I would help Hitler, kill him when his mental disease started to affect him too greatly, assume power, and watch the German Blitzkrieg take the rest of the world.
Monkeypimp
24-04-2004, 10:27
I'd take him even further back in time and shanghai him for 10 camels on the old time slave market...
Rotovia
24-04-2004, 10:28
I would help Hitler, kill him when his mental disease started to affect him too greatly, assume power, and watch the German Blitzkrieg take the rest of the world.You're a much better man than me, I would have gotten him hooked on a drug not available in his time so he could only get it from me. Then I'd make him my puppet.
Camewot
24-04-2004, 10:30
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, dance little Dolfy dance!!
Rotovia
24-04-2004, 10:31
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, dance little Dolfy dance!!lol, that give me an idea/ I'd actually make him wear strings.
Camewot
24-04-2004, 10:34
Or let him say in one of his famous Propaganda speeches: "Padley no sense make!"
Fortland
24-04-2004, 10:40
Basicly this problem is the same as the following:

could you sacrifice an innocent child when the as a result of this you would find a cure for aids?

I don't think i could, allthough i know the good thing to do is kill the child.

you do realise you are talking about a man who sent 6000000 Jews and several million germans to their deaths?


did anyone see that program on channel 4, hitler:the rise of evil?

The big problem is that we don't know what happens if Hitler would be moved aside(killed or disabled in some other way) maybe even someone else, more terrifying person would lead Germany and have even more people killed. But I really don't get the hunt of Hitler, Josef Stalin killed a lot more people.
24-04-2004, 10:45
Imagine you have traveld back in time, it is around the 1920s and you are at a small Austrian Café. There you meet a young Adõlf Hitler. Up unitl now has he expressed no anti-Semitism and is relatively innocent. Would you kill him?

Well that would be impossible for the following reasons:

1. In the 1920's Hitler was residing in Munich, Germany (and Landsberg Prison during 1924, and Berlin towards the end when the NSDAP ran for government). He had not lived in Austria since leaving Vienna in 1913. He did not return until the Anschluss in 1938.
2. By 1920, Hitler was already 31 so he isn't too young by this stage.
3. By 1921 Hitler had already shown off his hatred of Jews (read his speeches) and was head of the NSDAP.
4. Hitler had no taste for cafe's and you would be more likely to find him in a beer hall such as the Bergerbraukeller in Munich.
5. Finally, time travel is impossible.
24-04-2004, 11:00
Call me a nut, but for some reason I can't imagine having any problem killing Hitler. Baby Hitler, Young Hitler, Height-of-Power Hitler, doesn't matter, I'd have no problem. Sure, maybe the Earth would explode or something, and I'd probably never have been born for some reason or another, but I'd do it anyway.
Rotovia
24-04-2004, 11:11
Imagine you have traveld back in time, it is around the 1920s and you are at a small Austrian Café. There you meet a young Adõlf Hitler. Up unitl now has he expressed no anti-Semitism and is relatively innocent. Would you kill him?

Well that would be impossible for the following reasons:

1. In the 1920's Hitler was residing in Munich, Germany (and Landsberg Prison during 1924, and Berlin towards the end when the NSDAP ran for government). He had not lived in Austria since leaving Vienna in 1913. He did not return until the Anschluss in 1938.
2. By 1920, Hitler was already 31 so he isn't too young by this stage.
3. By 1921 Hitler had already shown off his hatred of Jews (read his speeches) and was head of the NSDAP.
4. Hitler had no taste for cafe's and you would be more likely to find him in a beer hall such as the Bergerbraukeller in Munich.
5. Finally, time travel is impossible.I spit on your logic.
Rotovia
24-04-2004, 11:11
Call me a nut, but for some reason I can't imagine having any problem killing Hitler. Baby Hitler, Young Hitler, Height-of-Power Hitler, doesn't matter, I'd have no problem. Sure, maybe the Earth would explode or something, and I'd probably never have been born for some reason or another, but I'd do it anyway.Nut :wink:
Dragons Bay
24-04-2004, 11:15
I've expressed my view on the 1st page, but here's a little afterthought:

History is history. If Adolf Hitler died in 1923, they might have been a thousand more Hitlers arising afterwards. Thinking how to change is history is actually a bit impractical. What history does is to let humans look back and hopefully learn from mistakes.

Of course, this question can also be viewed as a psychological question: how one would react under certain circumstances. This is not a "useless", "impractical" question.