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I know for a fact our military cannot fight north korea and deal with Iraq at the same time. What if North Korea attacked South Korea, and China Attacked Taiwan at the same time? :shock: Seriously its not looking good for freedom in Eastern Asia.

And Pakistan fought India as well? And Isreal went all out against Palestine? And Iraq fought a Civil War? And Cuba fought the US as well?

Kinky

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I know for a fact our military cannot fight north korea and deal with Iraq at the same time. What if North Korea attacked South Korea, and China Attacked Taiwan at the same time? :shock: Seriously its not looking good for freedom in Eastern Asia.


North Korea just wants an excuse to use its nukes.

And Pakistan fought India as well? And Isreal went all out against Palestine? And Iraq fought a Civil War? And Cuba fought the US as well?

Kinky

I think Fidel is content, Pakistan and India are not going to war, they have buses between eachothers countries now.

Israel wont go all out, they may be withdrawing from palestine I read the other day..

Iraq is headed into a civil war, no doubt.

And Pakistan fought India as well? And Isreal went all out against Palestine? And Iraq fought a Civil War? And Cuba fought the US as well?

Kinky

I think Fidel is content, Pakistan and India are not going to war, they have buses between eachothers countries now.

Israel wont go all out, they may be withdrawing from palestine I read the other day..

Iraq is headed into a civil war, no doubt.

And Pakistan fought India as well? And Isreal went all out against Palestine? And Iraq fought a Civil War? And Cuba fought the US as well?

Kinky

I think Fidel is content, Pakistan and India are not going to war, they have buses between eachothers countries now.

Israel wont go all out, they may be withdrawing from palestine I read the other day..

Iraq is headed into a civil war, no doubt.

He was being sarcastic. :wink:

South Korea could easily handle North Korea.

North Korea has a conscript army armed from the 50's, while the ROK army is a mix of volunteer and conscript (IIRC), armed with cutting-edge technology, and although smaller could probably destroy the North Koreans.

The worst that could happen is a terrible loss of life if the Commies nuke the Tokyo-Osaka megalopolous and level Seoul with artillery, but militarily speaking they won't wni.

And Pakistan fought India as well? And Isreal went all out against Palestine? And Iraq fought a Civil War? And Cuba fought the US as well?

Kinky

I think Fidel is content, Pakistan and India are not going to war, they have buses between eachothers countries now.

Israel wont go all out, they may be withdrawing from palestine I read the other day..

Iraq is headed into a civil war, no doubt.

He was being sarcastic. :wink:

Actually I was seriously sarcastic :P

I don't believe China and Taiwan would go to war in the near future; that is, if America continues to restrain herself from meddling in very obviously INTERNAL affairs of China.

The North Koreans couldn't possibly be exaggerating their capabilities/frustration/anger.. could they? Naw.. Not the Koreans. :wink:

I wouldn't worry. They've said that every US and South Korean action has meant war for decades. However, if there actually was a war, we could handle them, as Donald Rumsfeld said back in 2002. The South Korean army, one of the more advanced armies in the world, is very large, and has been training for this for fifty years. They only need air support from us, and that's easy. No one complains that our navy or airforce is streched thin. Anyhow, any war on the Korean Peninsula would take a month at most, and with the good intelligence combined with some US airstrikes, no WMDs will be used. And once North Korea is overran, the South Koreans will probably occupy the North, and the US can withdraw all of its forces in Korea. And maybe they won't have such a great need to stay in Japan, either.

South Korea could easily handle North Korea.

North Korea has a conscript army armed from the 50's, while the ROK army is a mix of volunteer and conscript (IIRC), armed with cutting-edge technology, and although smaller could probably destroy the North Koreans.

The worst that could happen is a terrible loss of life if the Commies nuke the Tokyo-Osaka megalopolous and level Seoul with artillery, but militarily speaking they won't wni.
And Iraq was going to be a walk in the park.........

Sorry, DP.
Damn this server

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040409/1/3jdy5.html

I know for a fact our military cannot fight north korea and deal with Iraq at the same time. What if North Korea attacked South Korea, and China Attacked Taiwan at the same time? :shock: Seriously its not looking good for freedom in Eastern Asia.

If is is wrong for North Korea to have nuclear weapons, how come it is O.K. for the US to have the same weapons? And for Israel to have the same weapons ? And who says Taiwan is not Chinese anyway ?

The only nation currently 'attacking" others is the US.

And the most current outbreak of violence in Iraq came after the US shut down a newspaper - hows that for bringing democracy to the Iraqis?

I wouldn't worry. They've said that every US and South Korean action has meant war for decades. However, if there actually was a war, we could handle them, as Donald Rumsfeld said back in 2002. The South Korean army, one of the more advanced armies in the world, is very large, and has been training for this for fifty years. They only need air support from us, and that's easy. No one complains that our navy or airforce is streched thin. Anyhow, any war on the Korean Peninsula would take a month at most, and with the good intelligence combined with some US airstrikes, no WMDs will be used. And once North Korea is overran, the South Koreans will probably occupy the North, and the US can withdraw all of its forces in Korea. And maybe they won't have such a great need to stay in Japan, either.
I think the Chinese might have something to say about the rosey scenarios that you just painted. North Korea would certainly be no push over, especially since the US resources are scattered all over the globe.

And who says Taiwan is not Chinese anyway ?



And who says China is not Taiwanese? :?

And who says Taiwan is not Chinese anyway ?



And who says China is not Taiwanese? :?

The majority.

South Korea could easily handle North Korea.

North Korea has a conscript army armed from the 50's, while the ROK army is a mix of volunteer and conscript (IIRC), armed with cutting-edge technology, and although smaller could probably destroy the North Koreans.

The worst that could happen is a terrible loss of life if the Commies nuke the Tokyo-Osaka megalopolous and level Seoul with artillery, but militarily speaking they won't wni.
And Iraq was going to be a walk in the park.........

The military part of it was the one of the most successful campaign in US history.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040409/1/3jdy5.html

I know for a fact our military cannot fight north korea and deal with Iraq at the same time. What if North Korea attacked South Korea, and China Attacked Taiwan at the same time? :shock: Seriously its not looking good for freedom in Eastern Asia.

If is is wrong for North Korea to have nuclear weapons, how come it is O.K. for the US to have the same weapons? And for Israel to have the same weapons ? And who says Taiwan is not Chinese anyway ?

The only nation currently 'attacking" others is the US.

And the most current outbreak of violence in Iraq came after the US shut down a newspaper - hows that for bringing democracy to the Iraqis?

Who would you trust with the only A-bomb in the world? Nazi Germany or the United States?

And who says Taiwan is not Chinese anyway ?



And who says China is not Taiwanese? :?
All Californians are Americans, but not all Americans are Californians.

All Taiwanese are Chinese, but not all Chinese is Taiwanese.

It's quite simple, isn't it? :roll:

What about the undocumented migrant workers?

What about the undocumented migrant workers? :lol:

Who would you trust with the only A-bomb in the world? Nazi Germany or the United States?

To be honest, i wouldn't trust either. I don't think i have to explain why i wouldn't want the Nazi's with the bomb, but what countries have actually used Weapons of mass destruction? The US, Iraq, anyone else?

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I know for a fact our military cannot fight north korea and deal with Iraq at the same time. What if North Korea attacked South Korea, and China Attacked Taiwan at the same time? :shock: Seriously its not looking good for freedom in Eastern Asia.

If is is wrong for North Korea to have nuclear weapons, how come it is O.K. for the US to have the same weapons? And for Israel to have the same weapons ? And who says Taiwan is not Chinese anyway ?

The only nation currently 'attacking" others is the US.

And the most current outbreak of violence in Iraq came after the US shut down a newspaper - hows that for bringing democracy to the Iraqis?

Who would you trust with the only A-bomb in the world? Nazi Germany or the United States?

I wouldn't trust ANYONE with an atomic bomb.

Certainly not the US - they've got "previous".

South Korea could easily handle North Korea.

North Korea has a conscript army armed from the 50's, while the ROK army is a mix of volunteer and conscript (IIRC), armed with cutting-edge technology, and although smaller could probably destroy the North Koreans.

The worst that could happen is a terrible loss of life if the Commies nuke the Tokyo-Osaka megalopolous and level Seoul with artillery, but militarily speaking they won't wni.
And Iraq was going to be a walk in the park.........

The military part of it was the one of the most successful campaign in US history.
What? Iraq had no air defence systems, as they had been routinely wiped out over the past 14 years. The Iraq army was decimated in the Gulf War, and they had no WMD (they had been dismantled). So yeah walking into Iraq was a walk in the park, but the ground resistance has proven to be more than the US expected. I really don't think that it would rate up there with one of the most successful campaigns by a long shot.

I've been to korea. South Korea could easily kick North Korea's ass in one day.

I've been to korea. South Korea could easily kick North Korea's ass in one day.
I really think we do not want to find out. If the US thought that what you say is true, it would have been done.

Sigh, isn't it more obvious that neither Korea will go to war with its counterpart on their own?

South Korea could easily handle North Korea.

North Korea has a conscript army armed from the 50's, while the ROK army is a mix of volunteer and conscript (IIRC), armed with cutting-edge technology, and although smaller could probably destroy the North Koreans.

The worst that could happen is a terrible loss of life if the Commies nuke the Tokyo-Osaka megalopolous and level Seoul with artillery, but militarily speaking they won't wni.
And Iraq was going to be a walk in the park.........

The military part of it was the one of the most successful campaign in US history.

The "miltary part" is still going on.

There have been more US, amd Iraqi casualties since the Shrub declared the war "over" than there was before.

The US is so desperate for more troops, and without wishing to give that appearance, that more and more "private security companies" are becoming involved. Well, wonder who really pays all these mercenaries?

I've been to korea. South Korea could easily kick North Korea's ass in one day.
I really think we do not want to find out. If the US thought that what you say is true, it would have been done.
What the US thinks doesn't matter. We are talking about Koreans here.
I was just stationed there for a year. I have seen the ROK in action. They can kick some ass.
And no, South Korea would not attack North Korea. The North Korean's haven't done anything to warrant an attack.

The military part I was refering to was the actual invasion, with regular forces. Which would be extremely easy for South Koreans and Americans stationed there to win.

What? Iraq had no air defence systems, as they had been routinely wiped out over the past 14 years. The Iraq army was decimated in the Gulf War, and they had no WMD (they had been dismantled). So yeah walking into Iraq was a walk in the park, but the ground resistance has proven to be more than the US expected. I really don't think that it would rate up there with one of the most successful campaigns by a long shot.

As I said above, with regular forces, it would.

Even with irregular Iraqi terrorists counted, the Iraqi War Military operation still was pretty successful. Its true that after WW2 we had essentailly no post-war deaths by irregulars in Germany, however during the regular fighting we had setbacks, like Kasserine Pass - there were no Kasserines in Iraq.

To be honest, i wouldn't trust either. I don't think i have to explain why i wouldn't want the Nazi's with the bomb, but what countries have actually used Weapons of mass destruction? The US, Iraq, anyone else?
If you count chemical/biological weapons, tons of countries, if your only talking about Nuclear, only America. But I believe Germany, France and the UK all used Chemical weapons in WW1, and many other countries including Russia, Japan, and China have all used chemical/biological weapons at some point or another.

The military part I was refering to was the actual invasion, with regular forces. Which would be extremely easy for South Koreans and Americans stationed there to win.

What? Iraq had no air defence systems, as they had been routinely wiped out over the past 14 years. The Iraq army was decimated in the Gulf War, and they had no WMD (they had been dismantled). So yeah walking into Iraq was a walk in the park, but the ground resistance has proven to be more than the US expected. I really don't think that it would rate up there with one of the most successful campaigns by a long shot.

As I said above, with regular forces, it would.

Even with irregular Iraqi terrorists counted, the Iraqi War Military operation still was pretty successful. Its true that after WW2 we had essentailly no post-war deaths by irregulars in Germany, however during the regular fighting we had setbacks, like Kasserine Pass - there were no Kasserines in Iraq.

To be honest, i wouldn't trust either. I don't think i have to explain why i wouldn't want the Nazi's with the bomb, but what countries have actually used Weapons of mass destruction? The US, Iraq, anyone else?
If you count chemical/biological weapons, tons of countries, if your only talking about Nuclear, only America. But I believe Germany, France and the UK all used Chemical weapons in WW1, and many other countries including Russia, Japan, and China have all used chemical/biological weapons at some point or another.
The south koreans could easily do it without American help.

Why else, do you think, we are now going to withdraw from Korea?
We aren't needed there. The troops currently in Korea, are being sent to Iraq instead.

They could, but considering the large amount of American forces in both South Korea and Japan, it would be reasonable to expect that South Korea would recieve American help anyway.

I wouldn't worry. They've said that every US and South Korean action has meant war for decades. However, if there actually was a war, we could handle them, as Donald Rumsfeld said back in 2002. The South Korean army, one of the more advanced armies in the world, is very large, and has been training for this for fifty years. They only need air support from us, and that's easy. No one complains that our navy or airforce is streched thin. Anyhow, any war on the Korean Peninsula would take a month at most, and with the good intelligence combined with some US airstrikes, no WMDs will be used. And once North Korea is overran, the South Koreans will probably occupy the North, and the US can withdraw all of its forces in Korea. And maybe they won't have such a great need to stay in Japan, either.
I think the Chinese might have something to say about the rosey scenarios that you just painted. North Korea would certainly be no push over, especially since the US resources are scattered all over the globe.
China wouldn't care. North Korea has brought them nothing but embarrassment.

If they nuke each other, then, we don't have to worry about it anymore.

What if North Korea were to nuke Seoul. How long do you think South Korea's economy would last. They would quickly be weakened and drawn back into a stalemate.

What if North Korea were to nuke Seoul. How long do you think South Korea's economy would last. They would quickly be weakened and drawn back into a stalemate.
Dude, the south korean economy is not dependent on Seoul. They would still have Daegu and Pusan.