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Our school recently hired a new Chaplain, now I could handle the Prodestant Chaplain because he was never around. But this new Mormon woman has gone too far! When she was welcomed on parade her and our pathetic excuse for a Member of Parliament led the school in prayer. But does it stop there? NO! Over Lent when I was meditating on the Sorrowful Mysteries I went to her office to borrow their copy of the New Jerusalem Bible, but geuss what? It's gone! The woman doesn't even practice Lent! This mixing of religion as school has gone too far. Too far! [/rant]

sorry

It's not that she's Mormon, it's that a vast majority of our school pupils are Catholic and they choose to employ a non-Catholic Chaplain. It's obsurd.

A Catholic (I assume) school hiring a Mormon Chaplain? Now I've seen it all...stupid drugged up Principal....they have laws against drugs for a reason...

A Catholic (I assume) school hiring a Mormon Chaplain? Now I've seen it all...stupid drugged up Principal....they have laws against drugs for a reason...It's a States run school, as are most schools in Aust. But we live in an area where there four Catholic Churches on one street. So that may give you an indication of the amount of Catholics in our school.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.One would think she'd already KNOW about it's existence. Practising it is out of the question...

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.I'm sorry but that's not true. http://www.adherents.com/loc/loc_australia.html The Catholic Church holds the largest membership and Australian Chrictian Churches the largest attendance. The ACC is the offical title for most Penticostal Churches.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.One would think she'd already KNOW about it's existence. Practising it is out of the question...For her maybe, but for a Catholic it's one of the most important parts of our faith

im heartedly confused

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.I'm sorry but that's not true. http://www.adherents.com/loc/loc_australia.html The Catholic Church holds the largest membership and Australian Chrictian Churches the largest attendance. The ACC is the offical title for most Penticostal Churches.yeah, i know. I specifically caid church goers, as in people who regularly attend church on sunday.

Official Religious census stats as performed by the Census plus LDS documents:

Religion
Weekly average in church (all faiths): 190807
Weekly National Church Attendance (all faiths): 1%
LDS Membership: 102773. (#15 out of 245 countries.)
Approx. LDS Activity Rate: 40%
Approx. Active Members: 41109
LDS, as percentage of churchgoers: 21.544%
LDS, as percent of population: 0.5386%
Active LDS, as percent of Population: 0.2154%
Missions: 6 (#12 out of 245 countries.)
Temples: 2 (#5 out of 245 countries.)
Stakes: 28 (#13 out of 245 countries.)
Districts: 12 (#15 out of 245 countries.)
Wards: 184
Branches: 99
Total Church Units: 283 (#14 out of 245 countries.)
Population per ward or branch: 67423
Average members per unit: 363
Average active members per unit: 145

source: http://www.cumorah.com/cgi-bin/db.cgi?view_records=View+Records&Country=australia

are you so sure you should be in general so soon after your deation raysia?

are you so sure you should be in general so soon after your deation raysia?i'm fine. Just no trolling or flaming.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.I'm sorry but that's not true. http://www.adherents.com/loc/loc_australia.html The Catholic Church holds the largest membership and Australian Chrictian Churches the largest attendance. The ACC is the offical title for most Penticostal Churches.yeah, i know. I specifically caid church goers, as in people who regularly attend church on sunday.

Official Religious census stats as performed by the Census plus LDS documents:

Religion
Weekly average in church (all faiths): 190807
Weekly National Church Attendance (all faiths): 1%
LDS Membership: 102773. (#15 out of 245 countries.)
Approx. LDS Activity Rate: 40%
Approx. Active Members: 41109
LDS, as percentage of churchgoers: 21.544%
LDS, as percent of population: 0.5386%
Active LDS, as percent of Population: 0.2154%
Missions: 6 (#12 out of 245 countries.)
Temples: 2 (#5 out of 245 countries.)
Stakes: 28 (#13 out of 245 countries.)
Districts: 12 (#15 out of 245 countries.)
Wards: 184
Branches: 99
Total Church Units: 283 (#14 out of 245 countries.)
Population per ward or branch: 67423
Average members per unit: 363
Average active members per unit: 145

source: http://www.cumorah.com/cgi-bin/db.cgi?view_records=View+Records&Country=australiaI've seen those before. However I tend to trust the Bureu of Statistics. Which goes on to mention the figures for weekly attendance, Which scored the ACC highest.

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.

why do mormons baptise dead people?

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are you so sure you should be in general so soon after your deation raysia?i'm fine. Just no trolling or flaming.What? You got deleted? When, why? I was wondering why you were using this account.

ylght!

why do mormons baptise dead people?I'll post the response in your other thread

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.My point is a Chaplain's duty is the spiritual welfare of the students. And if most students are Catholic, a Catholic would better serve their needs. As highlighted by the fact when a young Catholic student asked for help with studying for her Confirmation (First Communion) the Chaplain allegadly told her the Hail Mary was not important.

why do mormons baptise dead people?I'll post the response in your other threadAs far as I remember, they baptise FOR the dead, Because the dead did not have the teachings now available. Am I close? I was just trying to remember what they told us when we took a tour of the new Temple they built in Brisbane.

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.My point is a Chaplain's duty is the spiritual welfare of the students. And if most students are Catholic, a Catholic would better serve their needs. As highlighted by the fact when a young Catholic student asked for help with studying for her Confirmation (First Communion) the Chaplain allegadly told her the Hail Mary was not important.oh, in that case, that's a different story.

If she's counselling her students away from their religion, that might not be ok... but I have no clue what a chapain does

why do mormons baptise dead people?I'll post the response in your other threadAs far as I remember, they baptise FOR the dead, Because the dead did not have the teachings now available. Am I close? I was just trying to remember what they told us when we took a tour of the new Temple they built in Brisbane.http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3032785#3032785

Maybe next time you guys should hire a Jew. :lol:

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.My point is a Chaplain's duty is the spiritual welfare of the students. And if most students are Catholic, a Catholic would better serve their needs. As highlighted by the fact when a young Catholic student asked for help with studying for her Confirmation (First Communion) the Chaplain allegadly told her the Hail Mary was not important.

You really can't blame the woman herself. It's not her fault she's a Mormon; and she's free to go around espousing her beliefs, regardless of what the predominant faith among the students is. The people you should be mad at are those who did the hiring. They know the religious makeup of the student body, and they went out and hired someone who conflicted with that. They're the ones you should be mad at.

Hmm and Europeans say Americans allow too much religion in schools.
*shakes head*

As for why they hired a Mormon. Who knows...not that all mormons would be as ignorant as this woman sounds. Or perhaps they hired her for more 'counsuling' and less 'religious instruction' which is what the two examples you discribe against her really entail.

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.My point is a Chaplain's duty is the spiritual welfare of the students. And if most students are Catholic, a Catholic would better serve their needs. As highlighted by the fact when a young Catholic student asked for help with studying for her Confirmation (First Communion) the Chaplain allegadly told her the Hail Mary was not important.

You really can't blame the woman herself. It's not her fault she's a Mormon; and she's free to go around espousing her beliefs, regardless of what the predominant faith among the students is. The people you should be mad at are those who did the hiring. They know the religious makeup of the student body, and they went out and hired someone who conflicted with that. They're the ones you should be mad at.

And not necessarily that they hired a Mormon, but rather that they didn't do a very good job of interviewing her vis-a-vis her knowledge of Catholicism. Similar to if a hospital hires an incomptent doctor who then botches an operation.

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.My point is a Chaplain's duty is the spiritual welfare of the students. And if most students are Catholic, a Catholic would better serve their needs. As highlighted by the fact when a young Catholic student asked for help with studying for her Confirmation (First Communion) the Chaplain allegadly told her the Hail Mary was not important.

You really can't blame the woman herself. It's not her fault she's a Mormon; and she's free to go around espousing her beliefs, regardless of what the predominant faith among the students is. The people you should be mad at are those who did the hiring. They know the religious makeup of the student body, and they went out and hired someone who conflicted with that. They're the ones you should be mad at.

And not necessarily that they hired a Mormon, but rather that they didn't do a very good job of interviewing her vis-a-vis her knowledge of Catholicism. Similar to if a hospital hires an incomptent doctor who then botches an operation.

Right. Blame the interviewers for not more accurately judging her character. They should have made it clear that the Catholic faith was important to the student body and a healthy respect for said faith would be important for the job.

What's your point, rotovia?

Often times small religions have big political presences.

For instance, Mormons make up 1.5% of the US population, but there are 17 Mormons in congress.My point is a Chaplain's duty is the spiritual welfare of the students. And if most students are Catholic, a Catholic would better serve their needs. As highlighted by the fact when a young Catholic student asked for help with studying for her Confirmation (First Communion) the Chaplain allegadly told her the Hail Mary was not important.

You really can't blame the woman herself. It's not her fault she's a Mormon; and she's free to go around espousing her beliefs, regardless of what the predominant faith among the students is. The people you should be mad at are those who did the hiring. They know the religious makeup of the student body, and they went out and hired someone who conflicted with that. They're the ones you should be mad at.

And not necessarily that they hired a Mormon, but rather that they didn't do a very good job of interviewing her vis-a-vis her knowledge of Catholicism. Similar to if a hospital hires an incomptent doctor who then botches an operation.

Right. Blame the interviewers for not more accurately judging her character. They should have made it clear that the Catholic faith was important to the student body and a healthy respect for said faith would be important for the job.

I don't think it's necessarily an issue of character; maybe just knowledge or lack thereof.

I don't think it's necessarily an issue of character; maybe just knowledge or lack thereof.

Maybe I'm biased because I am Catholic, but it seems that it would be common sense to know that the Hail Mary is important.

I don't think it's necessarily an issue of character; maybe just knowledge or lack thereof.

Maybe I'm biased because I am Catholic, but it seems that it would be common sense to know that the Hail Mary is important.LOL I assume it's common knowledge that this lady is Mormon.

If you go to a Mormon with a religious question, chances are you'll get a Mormon answer.

I don't think it's necessarily an issue of character; maybe just knowledge or lack thereof.

Maybe I'm biased because I am Catholic, but it seems that it would be common sense to know that the Hail Mary is important.LOL I assume it's common knowledge that this lady is Mormon.

If you go to a Mormon with a religious question, chances are you'll get a Mormon answer.But if you are a Chaplain at a Catholic dominated school you should be able to provide some knowledge of the Catholic Faith. And the Ave Maria is not that hard to remember:
Hail Mary full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee,
Blessed is thou amoungst women,
And Blessed is the Fruit of thy womb,
Jesus,
Holy Mary Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners now,
and in the hour of our death.

I don't think it's necessarily an issue of character; maybe just knowledge or lack thereof.

Maybe I'm biased because I am Catholic, but it seems that it would be common sense to know that the Hail Mary is important.LOL I assume it's common knowledge that this lady is Mormon.

If you go to a Mormon with a religious question, chances are you'll get a Mormon answer.

How did you say it?

"There you go people, the definition of ignorance"

Were you even paying attention to what we were saying? We're saying that the hiring committee should have made it clear to the woman that she would have to know her Catholicism at this job, if the amount of Catholic students in the school is as much as Rotovia was saying. It's not her fault that she's a Mormon and is offering bad advice to Catholic students. It's the hiring committee's fault for not explaining the job to her, and their fault for not making sure she'd be able to fulfill the job.

I don't think it's necessarily an issue of character; maybe just knowledge or lack thereof.

Maybe I'm biased because I am Catholic, but it seems that it would be common sense to know that the Hail Mary is important.LOL I assume it's common knowledge that this lady is Mormon.

If you go to a Mormon with a religious question, chances are you'll get a Mormon answer.But if you are a Chaplain at a Catholic dominated school you should be able to provide some knowledge of the Catholic Faith. And the Ave Maria is not that hard to remember:
Hail Mary full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee,
Blessed is thou amoungst women,
And Blessed is the Fruit of thy womb,
Jesus,
Holy Mary Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners now,
and in the hour of our death.

from what i can gather on the net weekly attendance of church in australia is 16% of the population, that would in my opinion constitute an active church goer and reduce the mormon share to around 1%

The Mormon Faith of Christianity has every right to exist. However, I strongly believe that this "Lost Version" of the Holy Bible was made up for their own purposes of perhaps good intentions, perhaps normal intentions, or just perhaps to become a unique branch of faith in Christianity.

The Mormon Faith of Christianity has every right to exist. However, I strongly believe that this "Lost Version" of the Holy Bible was made up for their own purposes of perhaps good intentions, perhaps normal intentions, or just perhaps to become a unique branch of faith in Christianity.

Meh. That's basically how I view all of Christianity to begin with.

QahJoh

Indeed, as do many.

The Mormon Faith of Christianity has every right to exist. However, I strongly believe that this "Lost Version" of the Holy Bible was made up for their own purposes of perhaps good intentions, perhaps normal intentions, or just perhaps to become a unique branch of faith in Christianity.

Meh. That's basically how I view all of Christianity to begin with.Ah the idea one person sat down and wrote the Bible? Well considering it is compiled of various writings from over four thousand years that's a little hard to believe.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.

How many church goers do you think we have? (hint: we are no way near as religious as the US and we have a mighty population of 20 million). Also, most Mormons here are from the US spreading their 'word' which I for one don't want to hear, no offence. I don't try and convience them god dosen't exsist and try and change their lifestyle, do I?

Funny post, dead people being baptised was funnier though.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.

How many church goers do you think we have? (hint: we are no way near as religious as the US and we have a mighty population of 20 million). Also, most Mormons here are from the US spreading their 'word' which I for one don't want to hear, no offence. I don't try and convience them god dosen't exsist and try and change their lifestyle, do I?

I don't want to hear their 'word' either. But that doesnt stop them pestering me twice a week at the train station, and telling me that the Catholic religion is "like a bible with an arrow on it pointing up to heaven, nailed to a wall, and slowly it has turned around and the arrow is pointing to hell". I don't want to tell them i'm really atheist, because then they really WONT give up. *sigh* I'll just have to keep putting up with them...

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.

How many church goers do you think we have? (hint: we are no way near as religious as the US and we have a mighty population of 20 million). Also, most Mormons here are from the US spreading their 'word' which I for one don't want to hear, no offence. I don't try and convience them god dosen't exsist and try and change their lifestyle, do I?

I don't want to hear their 'word' either. But that doesnt stop them pestering me twice a week at the train station, and telling me that the Catholic religion is "like a bible with an arrow on it pointing up to heaven, nailed to a wall, and slowly it has turned around and the arrow is pointing to hell". I don't want to tell them i'm really atheist, because then they really WONT give up. *sigh* I'll just have to keep putting up with them...That's rediculous, the Catholic Church is one of the few religions that hold meetings to discuss our doctrine and keep it in line witht he will of God.

Umm, first off, why do you have a mormon chaplain?

And second, we do not practice lent. That is a catholic tradition.Indeed, why? The Admin have lost their minds.

But you would think if she's at a school where there are mostly Catholics she would learn about it.1 in 5 churchgoers in australia is mormon.I'm sorry but that's not true. http://www.adherents.com/loc/loc_australia.html The Catholic Church holds the largest membership and Australian Chrictian Churches the largest attendance. The ACC is the offical title for most Penticostal Churches.yeah, i know. I specifically caid church goers, as in people who regularly attend church on sunday.

Official Religious census stats as performed by the Census plus LDS documents:

Religion
Weekly average in church (all faiths): 190807
Weekly National Church Attendance (all faiths): 1%
LDS Membership: 102773. (#15 out of 245 countries.)
Approx. LDS Activity Rate: 40%
Approx. Active Members: 41109
LDS, as percentage of churchgoers: 21.544%
LDS, as percent of population: 0.5386%
Active LDS, as percent of Population: 0.2154%
Missions: 6 (#12 out of 245 countries.)
Temples: 2 (#5 out of 245 countries.)
Stakes: 28 (#13 out of 245 countries.)
Districts: 12 (#15 out of 245 countries.)
Wards: 184
Branches: 99
Total Church Units: 283 (#14 out of 245 countries.)
Population per ward or branch: 67423
Average members per unit: 363
Average active members per unit: 145

source: http://www.cumorah.com/cgi-bin/db.cgi?view_records=View+Records&Country=australia

This just proves that members of the Cult of Mormon go to Church more. Is that really an achievement?

why do mormons baptise dead people?I'll post the response in your other threadAs far as I remember, they baptise FOR the dead, Because the dead did not have the teachings now available. Am I close? I was just trying to remember what they told us when we took a tour of the new Temple they built in Brisbane.

Umm... Didn't you get that wrong? Confirmation is NOT First Communion. It's becoming fully part of the church.

why do mormons baptise dead people?I'll post the response in your other threadAs far as I remember, they baptise FOR the dead, Because the dead did not have the teachings now available. Am I close? I was just trying to remember what they told us when we took a tour of the new Temple they built in Brisbane.

Umm... Didn't you get that wrong? Confirmation is NOT First Communion. It's becoming fully part of the church.It depends, a practice has begun of replacing Confirmation with First Communion. (I assume you quoted the wrong post)