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Red or white wine?

Rotovia
10-04-2004, 09:48
I startrd this thought in another thread and thought there might be some people intrested so here is my opinion.

I like a smooth Merlot with my meals or around the fire on a cold winter's night. But for quiet conversations with friends I prefer a Shiraz Cabernat. I love the texture of reds, the way it rolls over you tongue, the rich aroma that hints at the taste inside, heck I even like the rose tint it leaves on my tongue.

Though not that whites are without their merit, the are delightful on spring outdoor lunches or with just the right salad. But reds have my heart won over.
Raysian Military Tech
10-04-2004, 09:51
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])
Sozo
10-04-2004, 09:52
bubba I think you on your own on this one. I'm going to assume that most folks here tend to be beer drinkers, or go for the harder stuff. I would be surprised to find an appreciation for wine around here.
Sozo
10-04-2004, 09:53
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])

so just how does grape juice egual wine again?
Incertonia
10-04-2004, 09:53
I'm with you on this. I used to be a white and pink wine person before I really started to drink it. Now I'm a solid merlot, shiraz, syrah kind of person. I'll drink a cabernet before a chardonnay and I'll drink any of them before I drink champagne or a sparkling white. I've just never developed a taste for that.
Raysian Military Tech
10-04-2004, 09:54
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])

so just how does grape juice egual wine again?wine=fermented/aged grape juice ;) in basic
Sozo
10-04-2004, 09:56
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])

so just how does grape juice egual wine again?wine=fermented/aged grape juice ;) in basic

Dude I know what wine is…
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:07
I'm with you on this. I used to be a white and pink wine person before I really started to drink it. Now I'm a solid merlot, shiraz, syrah kind of person. I'll drink a cabernet before a chardonnay and I'll drink any of them before I drink champagne or a sparkling white. I've just never developed a taste for that.Ah, a Rosé is perfect with fish.
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:08
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves.
Incertonia
10-04-2004, 10:08
Not for me. I'll take a less heavy red, perhaps one a bit more fruity than dry, but I'm largely a red man all the way now.
Raysian Military Tech
10-04-2004, 10:09
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :P
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:15
Not for me. I'll take a less heavy red, perhaps one a bit more fruity than dry, but I'm largely a red man all the way now.I'm not for fruity in reds. I like then thick and dry, or dainty and soft. But in whites I do appreciate something fruity.
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:16
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :PIn a way I did. But I didn't know if Mormon drank.
Raysian Military Tech
10-04-2004, 10:17
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :PIn a way I did. But I didn't know if Mormon drank.Nope. We don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even drink coffee lol
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:22
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :PIn a way I did. But I didn't know if Mormon drank.Nope. We don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even drink coffee lolIntresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:
Raysian Military Tech
10-04-2004, 10:26
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :PIn a way I did. But I didn't know if Mormon drank.Nope. We don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even drink coffee lolIntresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:In Jesus' time, drinking wine was safer than drinking water... for obvious reasons. Nowadays, water is pure. And plus, it never said Jesus' wine was fermented. He commanded the mormons to drink only fresh from the vine.

as for coffee... it has addictive ammounts of Caffeine in it. And addiction is a sin. Addiction breaks the first commandment, because you tend to put your worldly addictions above God in your life. And in basic, addictions carry over with you into hell :)
Incertonia
10-04-2004, 10:26
Intresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:Not all Catholics are celibate until marriage. :wink: I know from personal experience. heh heh heh heh
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:35
In Jesus' time, drinking wine was safer than drinking water... for obvious reasons. Nowadays, water is pure. And plus, it never said Jesus' wine was fermented. He commanded the mormons to drink only fresh from the vine.

as for coffee... it has addictive ammounts of Caffeine in it. And addiction is a sin. Addiction breaks the first commandment, because you tend to put your worldly addictions above God in your life. And in basic, addictions carry over with you into hell :)We base our belief the wine was fermented in the two diffrent words for wine and grapejuice in early Latin and The Book of Kells.

As for addiction, the modern Church believes that temptation is a sin and not addiction. For instance if a person were to go to hospital and have surgery after which becoming kooked on pain killers they have commited no sin. But if a person is tempted to take pain killers for an immoral purpose they have commited a sin. Say the addicted person not seeking help and continuing to use.
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:36
Intresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:Not all Catholics are celibate until marriage. :wink: I know from personal experience. heh heh heh hehlol, oh it's not my choice my friend :wink: Actually it has alot to do with that no contraception who-ha.
Incertonia
10-04-2004, 10:40
Intresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:Not all Catholics are celibate until marriage. :wink: I know from personal experience. heh heh heh hehlol, oh it's not my choice my friend :wink: Actually it has alot to do with that no contraception who-ha.Yeah--the Catholics I dated didn't take their religion quite so seriously. They looked at the restrictions on birth control as well, a bit silly, and as belonging to a different age. And besides, they could always confess, say however many "Hail Marys" and get on with it.
The Indoors
10-04-2004, 10:45
Euh.... red wine?
[no spiritual comments, government of my nation is avowed atheist ;)]
Rotovia
10-04-2004, 10:45
Intresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:Not all Catholics are celibate until marriage. :wink: I know from personal experience. heh heh heh hehlol, oh it's not my choice my friend :wink: Actually it has alot to do with that no contraception who-ha.Yeah--the Catholics I dated didn't take their religion quite so seriously. They looked at the restrictions on birth control as well, a bit silly, and as belonging to a different age. And besides, they could always confess, say however many "Hail Marys" and get on with it.Contraception is a mortal sin, I pity the Catholic who had to go to confession for that.
The Indoors
10-04-2004, 10:49
Contraception is a mortal sin, I pity the Catholic who had to go to confession for that.
Religion is just hilarious, isn't it?
Sozo
10-04-2004, 11:06
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :PIn a way I did. But I didn't know if Mormon drank.Nope. We don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even drink coffee lol

that would actually be the more STRICT Mormons, there are those less rigid that do drink coffee and omg even soft drinks.
Sozo
10-04-2004, 11:09
I only drink fresh wine. (non-alcoholic :P [grape juice!])Is that a religious thing? Because your Mormon if memory serves....I guess you just answered your question :PIn a way I did. But I didn't know if Mormon drank.Nope. We don't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even drink coffee lolIntresting, I don't mean to pry but is that. As a Catholic we can drink because Jesus did, but we cannot do drugs or what-not because of the whole "Your body is a temple" thing. And as for coffee, well we're celebit 'til marriage so we deserve a little slack. :wink: :lol:In Jesus' time, drinking wine was safer than drinking water... for obvious reasons. Nowadays, water is pure. And plus, it never said Jesus' wine was fermented. He commanded the mormons to drink only fresh from the vine.

as for coffee... it has addictive ammounts of Caffeine in it. And addiction is a sin. Addiction breaks the first commandment, because you tend to put your worldly addictions above God in your life. And in basic, addictions carry over with you into hell :)

Correction: if you do your research and very little at that I might add, you will see that most scholars have determined that the wine of biblical times was mostly fermented. However, in some cases (time ofcourse permitting) there was actually something called JUICE!!!!!
West - Europa
10-04-2004, 13:20
*decides to pour some oil on the fire*

Mormons, esp. like Raysia= crazy
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On topic now: Red.
10-04-2004, 14:00
I have two homemade dry reds and a sweeter white (for my wife) in the basement. Each batch started out 5 gallons yielding anout 30 bottles of each.
Yes We Have No Bananas
10-04-2004, 14:09
A good merlot on a winters night, definately one of life joys. I prefer dry wines, never really liked fruity and/or sweet wines. If I drink white, it has to be dry. I definately prefer red if I'm just havng a drink but with food it has to be well matched.

Off topic -
Mormon guy - check out the thread on Mormons baptising dead people. How do you justify that?
10-04-2004, 14:11
Neither.
NewXmen
10-04-2004, 21:56
A good merlot on a winters night, definately one of life joys. I prefer dry wines, never really liked fruity and/or sweet wines. If I drink white, it has to be dry. I definately prefer red if I'm just havng a drink but with food it has to be well matched.

Off topic -
Mormon guy - check out the thread on Mormons baptising dead people. How do you justify that?

I like a Merlot as well, plus any of the more peppery whites.
Moozimoo
10-04-2004, 22:01
i am surprised to find myself agreeing with some of Raysia's points…
NewXmen
10-04-2004, 22:18
i am surprised to find myself agreeing with some of Raysia's points…

If you look hard enough you can find someting to agree with almost everyone.
10-04-2004, 22:21
i am surprised to find myself agreeing with some of Raysia's points…

If you look hard enough you can find someting to agree with almost everyone.

Sometimes you have to look REAL hard..
Court Jesters
10-04-2004, 22:23
Red wine, especially from the Rhone region!