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Damn! Someone Might Think I'm GAY!!

Garaj Mahal
08-04-2004, 17:07
Is it really important to you that everyone knows your correct orientation? Especially with straight guys, a lot of us seem to get real big anxiety issues if there's any chance someone might mistakenly think we're gay.

I'm a married straight guy but in the unlikely event someone thinks I'm gay, so what? No guy has ever tried to make a move on me, but if one did I'd just say "No thanks I'm married but thanks for the complement" - just the same as I'd say to a woman.

If someone thought I was gay and wanted to beat me up for it, I'm not sure what my response would be but I hope I wouldn't yell out "I'm straight - you've got the wrong guy" cuz that would be real wussy wouldn't it?
Ecopoeia
08-04-2004, 17:13
My sexuality, politics, religion, etc are mine to reveal when I choose. On the internet, that extends to gender and race as well.
Ecopoeia
08-04-2004, 17:14
My double posts, however, are there for all to see...
Garaj Mahal
08-04-2004, 17:20
So does that mean you'd choose option 4? Doing so would not be revealing anything personal about yourself would it?
Ecopoeia
08-04-2004, 17:23
Ecopoeia
08-04-2004, 17:24
Ah, but I'm not sure I'm that secure or mature...
Salishe
08-04-2004, 17:24
I have to agree with Garaj..there seems to be this myth amongst us hetero males that all gay males are "on the prowl" for a big husky straight guy...lol...and even if one did by chance hit on me (cause I am just too old to have this "gaydar" thing) I'd simply respond the same as Garaj, thank you but no, but I will point out the available gay males at my party...likewise with lesbians...if I by chance had hit on one without realizing she was gay...I would expect a simple.."no thank you, you're not my type"...that would pretty much give me all I needed to know....that I just wasn't her type.
Collaboration
08-04-2004, 19:33
I've been hit on twice, by friends.

A polite (and accepting) refusal was adequate both times.

Maybe I send the wrong signal because I'm so stylish and trendy. :P
Berkylvania
08-04-2004, 19:37
I've been hit on twice, by friends.

A polite (and accepting) refusal was adequate both times.

Maybe I send the wrong signal because I'm so stylish and trendy. :P

Finally, gay and straight have a common cause that they can both hate: Metrosexuals!

Damn metrosexuals, further muddying up what is already a very murky dating pool...
HotRodia
08-04-2004, 19:39
Finally, gay and straight have a common cause that they can both hate: Metrosexuals!



Ahh...unity. :wink:
Lakarian
08-04-2004, 19:48
Option 4 makes the most sense to me, especially online, who cares what people think about your sexuality when they could pass you on the street without recognition?
imported_1248B
08-04-2004, 20:35
What others think of me is not an issue unless its effect starts to seriously discredit me as an individual. Other than that, who cares...
Skalador
08-04-2004, 21:31
I've been hit on twice, by friends.
Maybe I send the wrong signal because I'm so stylish and trendy. :P

You know we can't help ourselves whe we see you Collaboration ;)

As a outed gay man, I can confirm everyone and anyone that if I ever hit on a straight guy and he tells me "Sorry, not into guys" I won't just go ahead and rape him anyway(like some heteros seem to believe :roll: ). That's just not proper :wink:
Rehochipe
08-04-2004, 22:05
Ah, you pre-Foucaultians, so eager to self-categorise. Enough with the difference politics already.

That said, when hit on by gay men I tend to respond with 'thanks, but I'm straight' rather than deliver a long and complex lecture on the precise ins and outs of my views on sexuality; people would generally prefer a simple, false answer to a complex, accurate one.

The other classic example is that if you have an interest in queer theory, everyone assumes you're gay. Muahaha.
Collaboration
08-04-2004, 22:14
Ah, you pre-Foucaultians, so eager to self-categorise. Enough with the difference politics already.

That said, when hit on by gay men I tend to respond with 'thanks, but I'm straight' rather than deliver a long and complex lecture on the precise ins and outs of my views on sexuality; people would generally prefer a simple, false answer to a complex, accurate one.

The other classic example is that if you have an interest in queer theory, everyone assumes you're gay. Muahaha.

Yes, let's do avoid those "ins and outs"! :oops:
Almighty Sephiroth
08-04-2004, 22:19
In some circles, it is actually a badge of honour to have a gay guy hit on you. According to one of my older female friends, most gay men are fussy, and will try to "convert" only the best.
Stephistan
08-04-2004, 22:36
In some circles, it is actually a badge of honour to have a gay guy hit on you. According to one of my older female friends, most gay men are fussy, and will try to "convert" only the best.

If gay people try to "convert" straight people that is about as stupid as straight people trying to "convert" gay people. It's not a belief you can't pick and choose. Either you have homosexual tendencies or you don't. No one can be "converted" on either side. You're born with either a preference to one or the other and in some cases both.

I picked option 4. While most people know I'm straight because I am married with two children.. it's really no one's business what some one's sexual orientation is. It doesn't define a person one way or another, it's says nothing about their character or about them as a person. I'm sure there are some idiot gay people and we all know there is no shortage of idiot straight people. Who some one chooses to sleep with provided they're both consenting adults.. is neither here nor there. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things.
imported_1248B
08-04-2004, 23:51
I picked option 4. While most people know I'm straight because I am married with two children...

Mmmh, your line of reasoning is jaded. :(

When you say that people know you are straight because you are married with two children, you are basically saying "no, there are no bi women who are married with two children"...
Archaic Slang Words
09-04-2004, 00:08
I'm straight, and I like being straight. Beligerantly straight.

There's this gay guy in my P.E. class, and you see, I know a lot of gays, and are good friends of some of them, even when they do come on to me and recommend I try being a bisexual. But seriously, at least with these guys they aren't the walking embodiment of the stereotypical homosexual... I mean, seriously! Those guys who just scream gay at you outright you can't help but peg with basketballs during P.E.!

*Deep breath*

Do I get lynch-mobbed for that?
09-04-2004, 00:31
I've been hit on twice, by friends.

A polite (and accepting) refusal was adequate both times.

Maybe I send the wrong signal because I'm so stylish and trendy. :P

Finally, gay and straight have a common cause that they can both hate: Metrosexuals!

Damn metrosexuals, further muddying up what is already a very murky dating pool...

Hey! Metrosexuals are awesome. If I could meet any, that is... instead I just find out all my crushes are gay. It pisses me off.
Skalador
09-04-2004, 01:20
If gay people try to "convert" straight people that is about as stupid as straight people trying to "convert" gay people. It's not a belief you can't pick and choose. Either you have homosexual tendencies or you don't. No one can be "converted" on either side. You're born with either a preference to one or the other and in some cases both.


I hate to break these sad news to you, Steph, but straight poeple trying to convert gay poeple is a reality. And it's quite common in central/southern US. An internet friend of mine once had a crush on a boy whose parents literally forced to see a psychiatrist whose main goal was to make him realise how dirty and sinful homosexuality is.

And let's not forget all those religious groups of "support" who can supposedly "cure" homosexuality. Basically what these groups do is use conditionning and negative reinforcement to "get the gay out of the gay", so to speak. Of course, that sort of "support" always ends up in getting the poor boy/girl even more f*cked-up than before. Most end up marrying someone of the opposite sex hoping it'll make things better or opt for outright chastity.

Unless I'm mistaken, there's a New York city gay journalist whose main specialty is finding young men and women who posed for ads about those religious support groups curing them of their homosexuality. Most of the times they end up in gay bars or saunas, engaging in anonymous relations or unsafe sex practices because of their lack of self-esteem. And I recall reading about one or two doing that while they were still married.

So, "converting" gay persons to heterosexuality is a reality. Fortunately, I've never heard of any of this bullshit actually happening anywhere near my dear ol' Canada. It's good to be a gay Canadian...
Pheonix 1
09-04-2004, 01:38
Fortunately, I've never heard of any of this bullshit actually happening anywhere near my dear ol' Canada. It's good to be a gay Canadian...
Yea canada rules! I personally wonder why these issues come up.....i mean who really cares where you take it (sexually that is) and from who, thats right only christain white women....the same ones who instututed prohibition and make jokes about how all men love sports and are slow and stupid....in my book if your a jerk thats when it becomes a problem

~Prongs
Eridanus
09-04-2004, 01:44
People can figure it out for themselves. But if you must know, I'm straight.
Pheonix 1
09-04-2004, 01:55
People can figure it out for themselves. But if you must know, I'm straight.
Wait a second what 'figuring' is needed....assuming your male...
you want to fu<k women=straight
want to fu<k men=gay
both= bisexual ....
that is unless im confused about to how one 'figure this out'

~Prongs
ass of you and me ]
Eridanus
09-04-2004, 02:22
People can figure it out for themselves. But if you must know, I'm straight.
Wait a second what 'figuring' is needed....assuming your male...
you want to fu<k women=straight
want to fu<k men=gay
both= bisexual ....
that is unless im confused about to how one 'figure this out'

~Prongs
ass of you and me ]

People can figure out if you're gay or not. It's quite simple. Behaviour can be a hint, and then if they do say something extremelly gay, it can be assumed they're gay. Don't over analyze. Not good for the soul.
Pheonix 1
09-04-2004, 03:16
Indeed...I personally thought it was plin and simple...but nooo, i figured hey if you like guys your gay if you dont your not nut oh well
09-04-2004, 04:01
One Yes/no question: Am I having sex with YOU? If no, then my orientation is none of your concern.

JimSC
09-04-2004, 04:08
People can figure it out for themselves. But if you must know, I'm straight.
Wait a second what 'figuring' is needed....assuming your male...
you want to fu<k women=straight
want to fu<k men=gay
both= bisexual ....
that is unless im confused about to how one 'figure this out'

~Prongs
ass of you and me ]

What if you want to fu<k a sheep? I'm only asking because I have this friend see...
Reformed Norway
09-04-2004, 05:31
Well,

i dont know, i think that is under the beastiality category but im not certain....


James
Tuesday Heights
09-04-2004, 06:49
If a guy's secure enough with his sexuality, he won't fret when someone thinks he's gay.
Garaj Mahal
12-04-2004, 15:16
I agree. I suspect that the louder a guy is about being straight, the more likely it is he had some kind of same-sex experience as a young child and has been desperately trying to deny it to himself ever since.
Bottle
12-04-2004, 15:24
i see far too many guys who think that they are accomplishing something by being butch, loud, homophobic "straight" guys. the first thing i think when i see that sort of guy is "he's gay." the second thing i think is "even if he's straight, who cares? he obviously has a tiny penis if he needs to act out this much."

so there's your lesson guys: don't pull the macho crap, don't make "i ain't no faggot" comments, and if you chose to do either then prepare to be sleeping without the company of this young nubile bisexual girl ;).
Garaj Mahal
22-04-2004, 00:10
...And that would be a real shame, speaking from my personal knowledge of at least 1 lovely bi lass :wink:
Garaj Mahal
18-05-2004, 16:56
((bump))
Joseph Curwen
18-05-2004, 18:37
i see far too many guys who think that they are accomplishing something by being butch, loud, homophobic "straight" guys. the first thing i think when i see that sort of guy is "he's gay." the second thing i think is "even if he's straight, who cares? he obviously has a tiny penis if he needs to act out this much."

so there's your lesson guys: don't pull the macho crap, don't make "i ain't no faggot" comments, and if you chose to do either then prepare to be sleeping without the company of this young nubile bisexual girl ;).

8)

hmmm problem is this nubile bi girl's not in Ottawa :(

lol