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Bring back Saddam

08-04-2004, 08:19
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9219605%255E7583,00.html

A pro-US liberal Iraqi blogger, HealingIraq, longs for the days of the dictator.

A COUP d'etat is taking place in Iraq. Al-Shula, Al-Hurria, Thawra (Sadr City) and Kadhimiya (all Shi'ite neighbourhoods in Baghdad) have been declared liberated from occupation. Looting has started at some places downtown. News from other cities in the south indicates that [Shi'ite radical Moqtada al-Sadr's] followers have taken over [police] stations and [government] buildings in Kufa, Nasiriyah, Ammara, Kut and Basra.

No one knows what is happening in the capital right now. Power has been cut off in my neighbourhood since the afternoon, and I can only hear helicopters, massive explosions and continuous shooting nearby. The streets are empty, someone told us a half-hour ago that al-Mahdi [al-Sadr's militia] are trying to take over our neighbourhood and are being met by resistance from Sunni hardliners. Doors are locked and AK47s are being loaded and put close by in case they are needed. The phone keeps ringing. Baghdadis are horrified and everyone seems to have made up their mind to stay home tomorrow until the situation is clear.

I have to admit that until now I have never longed for the days of Saddam, but now I'm not so sure. If we need a person like Saddam to keep those rabid dogs [Shi'ite militias] at bay, then so be it. Put Saddam back in power and after he fills a couple of hundred more mass graves with those criminals they can start wailing and crying again for liberation.

What a laugh we will have then. Then they can shove their filthy Hawza [al-Hawza newspaper] and marji'iya [religious authority] up somewhere else. I am so disappointed in Iraqis and I hate myself for thinking this way. We are not worth your [America's] trouble. Take back your billions of dollars and give us Saddam again. We truly "deserve" leaders like Saddam.
08-04-2004, 08:23
Um.......rrriiiigggghhhhttttt..........ok, everyone is entitle to their beliefs along with others as Lord God has thankfully given us the Freewill to do so.........so, intern, I shall say one thing:

Freedom a good thing, ain't it?
Monkeypimp
08-04-2004, 08:26
Um.......rrriiiigggghhhhttttt..........ok, everyone is entitle to their beliefs along with others as Lord God has thankfully given us the Freewill to do so.........so, intern, I shall say one thing:

Freedom a good thing, ain't it?


Stop pretending you know more than someone who's actually there.
Jay W
08-04-2004, 08:28
The guy quoted in this article reminds me of the people who want to see a constitutional change to bring back Clinton into office. Too scared to fight and too stupid to see the future effects of having the right thing going on.
08-04-2004, 08:30
Monkeypimp

Stop judging before you know more about the "why" in the purpose of the post. I wasn't refering to THAT, I was refering to the mentioning of the past Dictator. HOWEVER, if one Iraqi wants Saddam back and FELLS SAFER, then I AM NOT AGAINST THAT.

Now, to get things straight, I know I have no idea what goes on there all the time, henceforth I have no right to critizize the purpose of ones statement whom lives in that place. Therefore my statement was NOT to critizize, but to expres my opinion as well, which can easily be wrong.
Skeelzania
08-04-2004, 08:33
How do we know that this guy isn't complete BS anyway? Anyone with a basic understanding of the Iraq situation could whip up a site and reports like these.
Rotovia
08-04-2004, 08:34
Um.......rrriiiigggghhhhttttt..........ok, everyone is entitle to their beliefs along with others as Lord God has thankfully given us the Freewill to do so.........so, intern, I shall say one thing:

Freedom a good thing, ain't it?


Stop pretending you know more than someone who's actually there.Here here.
Monkeypimp
08-04-2004, 08:35
Monkeypimp

Stop judging before you know more about the "why" in the purpose of the post. I wasn't refering to THAT, I was refering to the mentioning of the past Dictator. HOWEVER, if one Iraqi wants Saddam back and FELLS SAFER, then I AM NOT AGAINST THAT.

Now, to get things straight, I know I have no idea what goes on there all the time, henceforth I have no right to critizize the purpose of ones statement whom lives in that place. Therefore my statement was NOT to critizize, but to expres my opinion as well, which can easily be wrong.

Fair enough.

I'm just getting a bit sick of hearing about how happy all the iraqis are to be 'free' from people who only watch the occasional news item, when the country is horribly unstable atm. I can see too many problems with every current solution to Iraq, and I don't think it's going to be solved quickly.

I really need to stop caring....
08-04-2004, 08:35
How do we know that this guy isn't complete BS anyway? Anyone with a basic understanding of the Iraq situation could whip up a site and reports like these.

He is not fake. He is an Iraqi really living in Iraq.

http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
08-04-2004, 08:37
Monkeypimp

Your words hold too much truth, my Fellow NationStates Member. Fro, in the noticable end, it shall take a long and hard path to find the key to open that door for those Iraqi's, if you understand what I mean.
Kilean
08-04-2004, 08:40
Look, the one thing dictators do is provide order. They're actually good at it, too. But right now, in Iraq, we haven't proven to enough Iraqis (or SOME Iraqis, at least) that we're any better than Saddam. When they aren't having relatives detained and voting in elections and are able to walk the streets at night, then they'll view us as liberators, but for some Iraqis, all we've brought so far is chaos.

Now, let me stress for *some* Iraqis. A lot (I'd say the majority) are glad to see him gone, while others actually liked the guy (gasp! but patriotisim is...patriotisim, and people were loyal to him), but we need to win over the crucial bloc of people who haven't made up their minds. Sadly, that group may be shrinking.

If you're a baathis, you like saddam. If you're just somebody who wants law and order back....you may not have liked the guy, but the trains ran on time, y'know?