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have any one of you guys seen the news lately. in canada, the way they kill seals is just cruel. i think they should be left alone in their natural habitat. they are getting killed because there are more than 5 million of those seals. they think one day they will be overrun by these species. i think this is just stupid.
what is your point on this issue?

It's actually the fishing industry that (unofficially anyway) supports the practice. Millions of seals eat millions of fish, so a-clubbing the Newfies go.

control the population, its fine with me. I'm probably gonna get flamed by all you city folk for saying that. :D

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Until the seals go vegetarian, I say butcher those muthas like the 11,000 virgins of Cologne! Fish have rights, too!

but baby seals?? I'm generally fairly conservative and pro-letting people do what they want economically..but something in me makes me want to whine like Greenpeace ..

How are they being killed? decapitation is alright I suppose....I think that might work for some people overflowing China

I have nothing against them killing them for a reason, I understand what you mean though, I would only mind if it was pointless slaughter or mass slaughter that is actually likely to threaten their survival in the future.

Baby seals are clubbed to death by Canadians. Some are skinned alive. Read report that set the figure at 500,000 dead this year -- with clubs.
:cry: Doesn't seem like a very humane way. Maybe it is the French influence? Nope, they would all surrender.

Baby seals are clubbed to death by Canadians. Some are skinned alive. Read report that set the figure at 500,000 dead this year -- with clubs.
:cry: Doesn't seem like a very humane way. Maybe it is the French influence? Nope, they would all surrender.

Actually it's Newfounland not Quebec that kill baby seals.. and they don't kill baby seals because of over population, they kill them for their pelts to make stupid fur coats, it sickens me.

As for the over-population of seals.. while this is true and they don't club these seals.. they just kill them. It's the same rational as Deer hunting.. It's allowed because if they didn't the Deer population would get too large and millions of Deer would starve to death through-out the winter because there would be too many trying to get food from the same food source.

I personally don't like to see any animal killed.. but I accept it as part of the way things are done. I also can't say to much I suppose as I eat meat! However, I would never buy a fur coat. Clubbing baby seals is a very sick practice.

Geeeze.... now I know that anything is possible!

Stephistan... I find that I agree with you !!!

I used to hunt quite a bit at one time in my life. Now I find that I do not need that much extra meat. To kill game just to give the meat away or hang some body part on my wall is not why I hunted in the first place. Now I direct my time to fishing and I release most of what I catch. That last bit is difficult when hunting.

The seal population, or any other wildlife population has to be controlled one way or the other. It would be nice to think it can be done in a humane manner but any method would be preferable to dying of starvation or disease to my mind. The real question here is if the seals are being permitted to overpopulate simply because of the money made on the furs. If that is the case I am sure that a large number of Liberal Socialists can be organized to distribute condoms and diaphrams to the seals. :lol:

have any one of you guys seen the news lately. in canada, the way they kill seals is just cruel. i think they should be left alone in their natural habitat. they are getting killed because there are more than 5 million of those seals. they think one day they will be overrun by these species. i think this is just stupid.
what is your point on this issue?

The real reason is that seals are secretly planning to invade the rest of the country. That cute act is just a front for a highly sophisticated plot to steal our hockey pucks...They must be stopped... :D

but baby seals?? I'm generally fairly conservative and pro-letting people do what they want economically..but something in me makes me want to whine like Greenpeace ..

Reminds me of that good quote from UHF, the best movie ever... starring Weird Al Yankovich!

"If you don't come down and buy a car from me within the next hour, I'm going to kill this baby seal!"

Now, I'm going to toss in something worth the argument.

If those people are just killing those seals and doing nothing with them, letting them just die in peace, I'm fine with it. Let anything dead rest. But if they're screwing around with it to make whatever the hell, using the bluff as population control to cover it up, then by all damn means, they deserve to go to Hell! Straight to Hell on this one! You go to Hell and you die! You die! :evil:

Well, there is no nice way to kill an animal. Club, gun , bow, sharp pointy stick. They all serve the purpose of causing enough trauma to the animal to cause it to expire. That being said, I think that if the animals are being used (food source, clothing, ect.) that is better than just killing them and letting them rot.
Human beings have created a situation, by the destruction of natural preditors, that has caused us to have to end the lives of animals out of neccesity.
I am not happy that this has to be done, but at this time that is just the way it is.

it's their fault, they're the ones become pests all over saskatchewan, eating garbage, and leaving their waste everywhere.

Sealing is one of the few industries that can still create some work in Newfoundland. You want to get upset about animal rights? Go find a video or two about how they slaughter cattle and pigs. String the poor piggies up by their feet, slap a couple of electric prongs to the sies of its head, slit its jugular, wait a few minutes. Or cattle, aim a BOLT GUN at the back of its head and pow, no more brain stem. A quick, relatively painless club to the skull is suddenly looking pretty nice. Oh, but I forgot, pigs and cows are not as cute as seals. Oh, and a lot more people eat steak than seal flippers.
To say that killing something and just letting it die is better than killing something and using it to produce something is absolutely absurd. What happened to all the buffalo in the States? Colonials practicing their target shooting from trains on herds and herds of buffalo. Hurm. :? I hate emoticons.

As to the Buffalo. Those critters had to go! They roamed up and down the Plains at will! They ate any type of graze in sight and the vast numbers of the herds just simply made a mess of the countryside when they foraged past an area.

In truth, the buffalo had to go because people (back east especially) wanted beef not buffalo meat. The buffalo used graze needed for the herds of cattle. Back in those days it took a large amount of land to support cattle. Simple economics did the buffalo in. It was the turn of cattle when the farmers entered the picture. Farmers could raise more food per acre than a cattleman could. Farmers strung wire and fence to keep cattle out of their fields. Now cattle had to be raised on smaller plots of land and new methods of more on less land had to be developed.

It is all progress.... I suppose that is the excu...er...ah..reason!

Err, comparing seal overpopulation (no natural enemies to talk about or?) with deer overpopulation (who lost their natural enemies through human intervention) doesn't really sum up, do it? I mean, what did the seals do wintertimes before the humans figured out that their numbers needed to be controlled?

Killing seals is part of their history, and seals in Canada are over-populated, anyway. They're doing the population a favor.