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"Georgia House Bans Genital Piercings

March 24, 2004 06:21 PM EST


ATLANTA - Genital piercings for women were banned by the Georgia House Wednesday as lawmakers considered a bill outlining punishments for female genital mutilation.

The bill would make such mutilation punishable by two to 20 years in prison. It makes no exception for people who give consent to have the procedure performed on their daughters out of religious or cultural custom.

An amendment adopted without objection added "piercing" to the list of things that may not be done to female genitals. Even adult women would not be allowed to get the procedure. The bill eventually passed 160-0, with no debate.

Amendment sponsor Rep. Bill Heath, R-Bremen, was slack-jawed when told after the vote that some adults seek the piercings.

"What? I've never seen such a thing," Heath said. "I, uh, I wouldn't approve of anyone doing it. I don't think that's an appropriate thing to be doing."

The ban applies only to women, not men. The bill has already been approved by the Senate but now must return to that chamber because of the piercing amendment. Both chambers of the Legislature must agree on a single version of a bill before it can go to the governor for final approval."

Well to avoid equal protection problems (no pun intended) they'll have to include men.

Does that cover circumcision too?

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

Well to avoid equal protection problems (no pun intended) they'll have to include men.

Does that cover circumcision too?
I hope not. It's done with medical professionals around, who know how to treat infections and such. Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

I agree...in fact this should cover ALL piercings! Women shouldn't be allowed to do just whatever they want with their bodies! Piercing the ears of little helpless girls (any age: from 0 to 110 years old) is just barbaric...

Have we heard any Georgians complaining that their rights have been trampled? Perhaps the state wanted this.

Have we heard any Georgians complaining that their rights have been trampled? Perhaps the state wanted this.

I don't know...
I imagine it's may be hard for women in such a backwards community to stand up and fight for their right to decorate their genitals...

Well that's friggin' retarded.

You need to be an adult to give consent to a piercing anyways. Looks like no Georgia women for me.

Besides, genital piercings are hot. :oops:

I wonder if the police make inspections?

Have we heard any Georgians complaining that their rights have been trampled? Perhaps the state wanted this.

I don't know...
I imagine it's may be hard for women in such a backwards community to stand up and fight for their right to decorate their genitals...

They can stand up and fight for whatever they want to. But maybe they don't like genital piercings.

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.

Piercing the ears of little helpless girls (any age: from 0 to 110 years old) is just barbaric...

Is that birth to six?

Have we heard any Georgians complaining that their rights have been trampled? Perhaps the state wanted this.

I don't know...
I imagine it's may be hard for women in such a backwards community to stand up and fight for their right to decorate their genitals...

They can stand up and fight for whatever they want to. But maybe they don't like genital piercings.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't like peas and most of my neighbors don't either...Let's make them illegal for those who enjoy them.

Have we heard any Georgians complaining that their rights have been trampled? Perhaps the state wanted this.
As a native Georgian, I am simply embarrassed that this is even an issue at all! I will be voting against my current representative in the next election, partialy because of this debacle (I voted against him in the last one too btw).

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.

Piercing the ears of little helpless girls (any age: from 0 to 110 years old) is just barbaric...

Is that birth to six?

No...It's irony...

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.

Thats good, but it dosen't take away from the fact that a *lot* of piercing studios (as well as Tattoo Parlors) are quite unsanity and are disease holes.

Good for you though, nice to see some responsible people.

I wonder if they are illegal to have, or if it is illegal to perform the proceedure.

Either way it is going to be interesting to see them enforce this....

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.

Thats good, but it dosen't take away from the fact that a *lot* of piercing studios (as well as Tattoo Parlors) are quite unsanity and are disease holes.

Good for you though, nice to see some responsible people.

I don't know what it's like over there, but doesn't the official health inspection make checks?

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.

Thats good, but it dosen't take away from the fact that a *lot* of piercing studios (as well as Tattoo Parlors) are quite unsanity and are disease holes.

Good for you though, nice to see some responsible people.

Thanks. People who are geting piercings (or tattos for that matter) need to know what to look for when they go into a shop. If you live in a state that regulates this trade, ask to see thier liscense. Then ask to see the autoclave and the piercing/ tattoo room. Talk to the piercer about sanitary practices in the studio, and ask where they trained (if they say gauntlet, let them do it. Gauntlet rocks)and how long they have been piercing. Do your research and don't get it if you feel even a little uncomfortable. There are lots of good shops out there.

I don't know what it's like over there, but doesn't the official health inspection make checks?

Once a month where I am.

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

I agree...in fact this should cover ALL piercings! Women shouldn't be allowed to do just whatever they want with their bodies! Piercing the ears of little helpless girls (any age: from 0 to 110 years old) is just barbaric...

Yes, maybe in her eyes... :roll:

I see np problem with piercings. I mean, I have 10 piercings -- all in my ears though.

What you'er talking about isn't suitable for democracy... *smirk* then again, you're American, so what would you know about it.... (yes, I love taking shots below the belt)

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

I agree...in fact this should cover ALL piercings! Women shouldn't be allowed to do just whatever they want with their bodies! Piercing the ears of little helpless girls (any age: from 0 to 110 years old) is just barbaric...

Yes, maybe in her eyes... :roll:

I see np problem with piercings. I mean, I have 10 piercings -- all in my ears though.

What you'er talking about isn't suitable for democracy... *smirk* then again, you're American, so what would you know about it.... (yes, I love taking shots below the belt)

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.

Thats good, but it dosen't take away from the fact that a *lot* of piercing studios (as well as Tattoo Parlors) are quite unsanity and are disease holes.

Good for you though, nice to see some responsible people.

I don't know what it's like over there, but doesn't the official health inspection make checks?

You have no idea how many hole-in-wall tattoo parlors and piercing studios there are in GA. Guy down the street does ink in his apt. Cops shut them down, more pop up. Me, I did my reseach and went to a credible place for my ink and piercings. I am wondering how this law will affect those of us that already have piercings. Since I heard about all of this, I've been on a letter writing, email and calling campaign in protest, I have also been recruiting other to protest.

While a ban on piercings for consenting adults is a stupid intrusion, the ban on child genital mutilation is a good thing. Relegion be damned. What's next, human sacrifice?

It should be pointed out that the original amendment to the GA state constitution had to due with mutilation of female genitals. This was to curb Islamic, Asian and African cultural practices that mutilated young girls since the "religion" in question decreed that women are not supposed to enjoy or get pleasure from sex. The way many fathers were getting around the proposed law was to consent to a piercing done by a religious leader of their community, that reslted in the removal and mutilation of the clitoris as well as deep scarring of the opening of the vagina. Keep in mind most girls are under age 6 when they have this done. (But fathers can wait till their daughters have had their first menstraul cycle.)
It is unfortunate that the bill had to take this turn. I find that the loss of liberty in this matter is negligable to amount of harm this prevents overall. Anyone elses thoughts?

Anyone elses thoughts?

I am away that female genital mutilation is a very different thing from male circumcision, but in the light of such a ruling I would like to know why it is considered legitimate to allow male circumcision on children who are by legal definition unable to give their consent.

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

I agree...in fact this should cover ALL piercings! Women shouldn't be allowed to do just whatever they want with their bodies! Piercing the ears of little helpless girls (any age: from 0 to 110 years old) is just barbaric...

Yes, maybe in her eyes... :roll:

I see np problem with piercings. I mean, I have 10 piercings -- all in my ears though.

What you'er talking about isn't suitable for democracy... *smirk* then again, you're American, so what would you know about it.... (yes, I love taking shots below the belt)

:lol:
And there I was thinking only Americans were immune to sarcasm...

btw: I'm not an American...I do a good impression of them though, don't I? (note to self: Stuff more pillows under my shirt next time)

It should be pointed out that the original amendment to the GA state constitution had to due with mutilation of female genitals. This was to curb Islamic, Asian and African cultural practices that mutilated young girls since the "religion" in question decreed that women are not supposed to enjoy or get pleasure from sex. The way many fathers were getting around the proposed law was to consent to a piercing done by a religious leader of their community, that reslted in the removal and mutilation of the clitoris as well as deep scarring of the opening of the vagina. Keep in mind most girls are under age 6 when they have this done. (But fathers can wait till their daughters have had their first menstraul cycle.)
It is unfortunate that the bill had to take this turn. I find that the loss of liberty in this matter is negligable to amount of harm this prevents overall. Anyone elses thoughts?
The mutilation of female genitals through circumcsion is a null point, it happens vary rarely (as often in GA as any other state, and how often does it happen where you live?). Its just another silly law that I can't help but think makes me, a highly educated woman, look like a stupid hick.

The mutilation of female genitals through circumcsion is a null point, it happens vary rarely (as often in GA as any other state, and how often does it happen where you live?). Its just another silly law that I can't help but think makes me, a highly educated woman, look like a stupid hick.

By this reasoning any illegal activity that happens only rarely is governed by a "silly" law - how often does treason happen where you are, for example? Drawing a correspondence between the frequency of an act and the need for legislation covering it is unsound. If there are no murders in the town where I live, does that make any laws concerning what would happen if someone killed someone else just another "silly" law?

....since the "religion" in question ...

Why the quote marks around the word 'religion' here?

The mutilation of female genitals through circumcsion is a null point, it happens vary rarely (as often in GA as any other state, and how often does it happen where you live?). Its just another silly law that I can't help but think makes me, a highly educated woman, look like a stupid hick.

By this reasoning any illegal activity that happens only rarely is governed by a "silly" law - how often does treason happen where you are, for example? Drawing a correspondence between the frequency of an act and the need for legislation covering it is unsound. If there are no murders in the town where I live, does that make any laws concerning what would happen if someone killed someone else just another "silly" law?
I wasn't saying that it was a silly law. I was pointing out that we are making much ado about NOTHING. Banning female circumcision is one thing, but banning female genitle peircings is ludicrious. There would not even be a debate over this issue if it was simply a matter of banning female circumcision.

I wonder if a shemale could have his/her labia pierced...

The mutilation of female genitalia happens very rarelyhmm.. perhaps: 6000 reported cases is 2002 in the state of GA alone. That just the reported cases, you lknow where the state got involved because there was a report of child abuse ( the procedure is done without an anethetic). Of couse it's part of the religion so most of those cases brought the state nowhere, and those children are still in the custody of those parents. And it still doesn't keep them from sending their daughters out of the country to have the proceedure done. Some young girl should suffer this indigniation so Adult Educated women don't get mistaken for uneducated hicks. Seems kinda unbalanced. If the people who's opinions matter to you are so shallow and easily swayed perhaps your education was not all it could have been or might be.

Banning female circumcision is one thing, but banning female genitle peircings is ludicrious. There would not even be a debate over this issue if it was simply a matter of banning female circumcision.

I realised that this was probably what you meant while re-reading my post. Apologies.

The mutilation of female genitalia happens very rarelyhmm.. perhaps: 6000 reported cases is 2002 in the state of GA alone. That just the reported cases, you lknow where the state got involved because there was a report of child abuse ( the procedure is done without an anethetic). Of couse it's part of the religion so most of those cases brought the state nowhere, and those children are still in the custody of those parents. And it still doesn't keep them from sending their daughters out of the country to have the proceedure done. Some young girl should suffer this indigniation so Adult Educated women don't get mistaken for uneducated hicks. Seems kinda unbalanced. If the people who's opinions matter to you are so shallow and easily swayed perhaps your education was not all it could have been or might be.

And what's that got to do with piercings?

I realised that this was probably what you meant while re-reading my post. Apologies.[/quote]
np

sometimes it is stated as a religous practice and sometimes it is a cultural one. so I put quotes around: religion. to signify that I was emphasising the word with a pause in speech and stress upon the word.

The mutilation of female genitalia happens very rarelyhmm.. perhaps: 6000 reported cases is 2002 in the state of GA alone. That just the reported cases, you lknow where the state got involved because there was a report of child abuse ( the procedure is done without an anethetic). Of couse it's part of the religion so most of those cases brought the state nowhere, and those children are still in the custody of those parents. And it still doesn't keep them from sending their daughters out of the country to have the proceedure done. Some young girl should suffer this indigniation so Adult Educated women don't get mistaken for uneducated hicks. Seems kinda unbalanced. If the people who's opinions matter to you are so shallow and easily swayed perhaps your education was not all it could have been or might be.
Statistically, there are no more female circumcisions occuring in GA than in most other states. So how is it that GA is the only state take issue with it at the moment? Further, if you had read the rest of my comments along with your selective reading of my own responses, you might realize that you were only seeing part of the story. I have no objection whatsoever to banning female circumcision. I do, however, object to that law being applied to adult peircings of any kind.

sometimes it is stated as a religous practice and sometimes it is a cultural one. so I put quotes around: religion. to signify that I was emphasising the word with a pause in speech and stress upon the word.

And?

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive? Your having sex and you end up with 2 piercings for the price of one

Have we heard any Georgians complaining that their rights have been trampled? Perhaps the state wanted this.

I don't know...
I imagine it's may be hard for women in such a backwards community to stand up and fight for their right to decorate their genitals...

They can stand up and fight for whatever they want to. But maybe they don't like genital piercings.

Are you trying to insinuate that no one in the entire state wants this kind of body piercing? I don't think I'm going to buy that. Besides, rights are not something arbitrary, either you're trampling them or you're not, regardless of who notices. This just shows how out of touch these legislators are.

The latest news out of the South on CNN yesterday was on the Alabama passing legislation adopting a state liquor and cops in Arkansas severely beating a man. Hmm...

It should be pointed out that the original amendment to the GA state constitution had to due with mutilation of female genitals. This was to curb Islamic, Asian and African cultural practices that mutilated young girls since the "religion" in question decreed that women are not supposed to enjoy or get pleasure from sex. The way many fathers were getting around the proposed law was to consent to a piercing done by a religious leader of their community, that reslted in the removal and mutilation of the clitoris as well as deep scarring of the opening of the vagina. Keep in mind most girls are under age 6 when they have this done. (But fathers can wait till their daughters have had their first menstraul cycle.)
It is unfortunate that the bill had to take this turn. I find that the loss of liberty in this matter is negligable to amount of harm this prevents overall. Anyone elses thoughts?

I think that a simple piercing is different than female circumcision. That's my only thought on the matter. If you want to argue that it's terribly sloppy legislation, that's fine too.

Yes, maybe in her eyes... :roll:


Did you say eyes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4685961/)?

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

Yes, maybe in her eyes... :roll:


Did you say eyes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4685961/)?

:shock:
wow... That's...uhm...strange.

Maybe we will be seeing alot of that, kind of like all those people with the "cat eyes" contact lenses at the clubs.

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

I doubt anyone would pierce their vagina. Usually it's the clitoris or labia.
And it's not painful.

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

I doubt anyone would pierce their vagina. Usually it's the clitoris or labia.
And it's not painful.



Yes yes I know I use that term as an umbrella for all the bits and pieces they may or may not choose to pierce (let me guess youre going to find another obvious hole in my terminology) and even if it doesnt hurt a woman which I dont see as possible although I dont know....I know I never want to get my sensitive organs near pointy things if I can avoid it.

I have male genital piercings (which I find attractive) and live in GA. I just got back from being detained out of country to hear about this. It's terrible. However, according to Piercing.org, it's all a big misunderstanding, and the piercing ban will probably not take effect. However, the banning of the use of the word "evolution" during genital piercings probably will pass.

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

I doubt anyone would pierce their vagina. Usually it's the clitoris or labia.
And it's not painful.



Yes yes I know I use that term as an umbrella for all the bits and pieces they may or may not choose to pierce (let me guess youre going to find another obvious hole in my terminology) and even if it doesnt hurt a woman which I dont see as possible although I dont know....I know I never want to get my sensitive organs near pointy things if I can avoid it.

I'm not a woman, and it doesn't have to be pointy and it doesn't hurt...

I have male genital piercings (which I find attractive) and live in GA. I just got back from being detained out of country to hear about this. It's terrible. However, according to Piercing.org, it's all a big misunderstanding, and the piercing ban will probably not take effect. However, the banning of the use of the word "evolution" during genital piercings probably will pass.



But do you find female genital piercings attractive? Its a simple question that everone seems afraid to answer

Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

well, the common one for girls is a clit hood piercing, which looks alright by me (you can use the internet if you want to see it). and i hear that its pretty damn cool from her end. i knew a guy that got a prince albert and said he could understand why people got them - (the reasoning in his case was something to do with a bet).

I have male genital piercings (which I find attractive) and live in GA. I just got back from being detained out of country to hear about this. It's terrible. However, according to Piercing.org, it's all a big misunderstanding, and the piercing ban will probably not take effect. However, the banning of the use of the word "evolution" during genital piercings probably will pass.



But do you find female genital piercings attractive? Its a simple question that everone seems afraid to answer

I do...My girlfriend had one

Ok I change my opinion....now I think they should be forced to wear a special sticker so theres no confusion

I have male genital piercings (which I find attractive) and live in GA. I just got back from being detained out of country to hear about this. It's terrible. However, according to Piercing.org, it's all a big misunderstanding, and the piercing ban will probably not take effect. However, the banning of the use of the word "evolution" during genital piercings probably will pass.



But do you find female genital piercings attractive? Its a simple question that everone seems afraid to answer

I do, but I already said that, long before you asked.

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

Heh, it's quite the opposite from painful, my friend.

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

Heh, it's quite the opposite from painful, my friend.

You will never convince me of this as far as I'm concerned genitals + sharp things = pain.

for some people, genitals+sharp things= happytime

This is great.....does anyone in the world find genital piercings attractive?

quite obviously yes. i've personally known like 7 people that told me about their genital piercings.


Im saying do you find genital piercings attractive in your man/woman.....I couldnt possibly have sex with a women with a vaginal piercing.....It sounds too painful

Heh, it's quite the opposite from painful, my friend.

You will never convince me of this as far as I'm concerned genitals + sharp things = pain.

Piercings aren't sharp, buddy. You cap the pointy end.

Amendment sponsor Rep. Bill Heath, R-Bremen, was slack-jawed when told after the vote that some adults seek the piercings.

"What? I've never seen such a thing," Heath said. "I, uh, I wouldn't approve of anyone doing it. I don't think that's an appropriate thing to be doing."

And this is why sex should be encouraged in public office. :P

Virgin!

I have male genital piercings (which I find attractive) and live in GA. I just got back from being detained out of country to hear about this. It's terrible. However, according to Piercing.org, it's all a big misunderstanding, and the piercing ban will probably not take effect. However, the banning of the use of the word "evolution" during genital piercings probably will pass.



But do you find female genital piercings attractive? Its a simple question that everone seems afraid to answer

Not me personally. But if women want them, then thats their choice and they should be allowed to get them.

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.

What about circumcision for medical reasons? Should this also be classed as "mutilating the bodies of children"?

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.

What about circumcision for medical reasons? Should this also be classed as "mutilating the bodies of children"?

That's a legitimate medical treatment, in that case; not ritual mutilation.

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.

What about circumcision for medical reasons? Should this also be classed as "mutilating the bodies of children"?

That's a legitimate medical treatment, in that case; not ritual mutilation.

So just "medical" mutilation then?

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.

What about circumcision for medical reasons? Should this also be classed as "mutilating the bodies of children"?

That's a legitimate medical treatment, in that case; not ritual mutilation.

So just "medical" mutilation then?

Only in the same way that removing a malfunctioning gallbladder is mutilation. Arbitrarily removing a healthy one would be mutilation though!

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.
I believe you. But what I'm saying is that there's too much risk involved in piercing genitalia. However, I shouldn't have said that only doctors should do it; it was just to appease Tumaania. I don't think it should be done at all, at least not in that area. Why can't we go back to the good ole days, when the debate was tattoing butts?

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.
I believe you. But what I'm saying is that there's too much risk involved in piercing genitalia. However, I shouldn't have said that only doctors should do it; it was just to appease Tumaania. I don't think it should be done at all, at least not in that area. Why can't we go back to the good ole days, when the debate was tattoing butts?

Well, I've heard that in some parts of the USA it's illegal to get a tattoo.

Sorry I cant read all the replies.

This is just plain retarded. So now women don't have the right to pierce their genitals? 2 to 20 years? Because they are riskign getting an infection?

The piercing pros know VERY WELL how to deal with an infection btw.

Gah!!!!! Sorry Georgians

I have male genital piercings (which I find attractive) and live in GA. I just got back from being detained out of country to hear about this. It's terrible. However, according to Piercing.org, it's all a big misunderstanding, and the piercing ban will probably not take effect. However, the banning of the use of the word "evolution" during genital piercings probably will pass.



But do you find female genital piercings attractive? Its a simple question that everone seems afraid to answer

Yes, I find them attractive

What's in your pants, stays in your pants; just like what goes on in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom.

What's in your pants, stays in your pants; just like what goes on in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom.

Maybe it's time for "Pants Police" :lol:

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.
But as I see it, why waste that precious time while in the shower? Get it over with when the children are just born. It's not like the skin lost is vital to a person's health. I know a lot of healthy, circumcised people. I'm sure most of the men in this forum are circumsised.

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.
But as I see it, why waste that precious time while in the shower? Get it over with when the children are just born. It's not like the skin lost is vital to a person's health. I know a lot of healthy, circumcised people. I'm sure most of the men in this forum are circumsised.

I like my nerve endings a lot, thank you oh so very much.

Besides, circumcision helps keep the penis clean.

Regular washing has the same effect and does not involve mutilating the bodies of children.
But as I see it, why waste that precious time while in the shower? Get it over with when the children are just born. It's not like the skin lost is vital to a person's health. I know a lot of healthy, circumcised people. I'm sure most of the men in this forum are circumsised.

I like my nerve endings a lot, thank you oh so very much.

Same here

Foreskin = greater sexual pleasure for him and her. It's there for a reason yo.

whatever you think fila

whatever you think fila

It's true. ;)

For him, less callousing, and the foreskin has a great great many nerve endings.
for her, it folds back inside to rub on better places.

Just one of those things. Don't mutilate your children.

Well, you can't buy beer on Sunday's there, so why should you be able to peirce your googoo? :P Georgia :lol: :lol:

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.
I believe you. But what I'm saying is that there's too much risk involved in piercing genitalia. However, I shouldn't have said that only doctors should do it; it was just to appease Tumaania. I don't think it should be done at all, at least not in that area. Why can't we go back to the good ole days, when the debate was tattoing butts?

Well, I've heard that in some parts of the USA it's illegal to get a tattoo.
Not in this area. I know many tattooed men.

The penalty is a little severe, but I'm surprised it didn't get passed earlier. Only medical professionals should conduct such a procedure, for both men and women. The risk of infection is too great, particularly for men. Piercing the scrotum may lead to some nasty consequences.

As a professional piercer I can tell you that my shop, table, and tools are just as sanitary as a surgery lab, and I am better trained with the tools and teniques than any doctor (who is not also a piercer). The risk of infection is actually higher for women than for men because the pierce is easier to clean.
I believe you. But what I'm saying is that there's too much risk involved in piercing genitalia. However, I shouldn't have said that only doctors should do it; it was just to appease Tumaania. I don't think it should be done at all, at least not in that area. Why can't we go back to the good ole days, when the debate was tattoing butts?

Well, I've heard that in some parts of the USA it's illegal to get a tattoo.
Not in this area. I know many tattooed men.

I looked it up, it's illegal in Oklahoma.