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"Racism is good, when said by the right people... right?


This excerpt is taken from a speech within the US Senate honoring the 17,000th vote in Senate by Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV): (the Senator speaking is Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT))

"It has often been said that the man and the moment come together. I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia that he would have been a great Senator at any moment. Some were right for the time . ROBERT C. BYRD , in my view, would have been right at any time . He would have been right at the founding of this country. He would have been in the leadership crafting this Constitution. He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this Nation. He would have been right at the great moments of international threat we faced in the 20th century. I cannot think of a single moment in this Nation's 220-plus year history where he would not have been a valuable asset to this country. Certainly today that is not any less true."

Why am I drawing this to your attention? Because this "great" and "wonderful" Senator from West Virginia, who "would have been right at any time", was a member of the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), and just a couple years ago used the word "******" on television in referring to someone else. This man is a racist. Now, those who know me know that I believe it's every man's right to honor any man they choose, however, all I am asking is where is the media coverage? In December of 2002, when Senator Lott called Senator Strom Thurmond a good man on his 100th birthday, Civil Rights organizations wanted his resignation. Media from all over the country demanded that he apologize. Where is the circus around Senator Dodd? Where is the circus around Senator Byrd? Oh, that's right, he's a liberal Democrat, so that means it doesn't matter what he says."


http://talkingdonkey.worldmagblog.com/archives/002766.html

*Sentence edited due to my caving to political correctness. Sorry.*

I wanted to vote in your poll but it didnt have a dodd should "....perform in a musical version of a streetcar named desire" so I couldnt vote :(

must i reiterate myself

well if you want to know then i will have to enlighten you.

so. the fact is, that your idea of this passage is all wrong, i say fuck 'em

if you must go on worrying then i have to sugest that you you stop it.
my advice as a learned man is that every time you see something realting refer back to the wisdom i have emparted.

if you dont agree with my wisdom then i will say that things have a way of working themselfs out.

"Racism is good, when said by the right people... right?


This excerpt is taken from a speech within the US Senate honoring the 17,000th vote in Senate by Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV): (the Senator speaking is Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT))

"It has often been said that the man and the moment come together. I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia that he would have been a great Senator at any moment. Some were right for the time . ROBERT C. BYRD , in my view, would have been right at any time . He would have been right at the founding of this country. He would have been in the leadership crafting this Constitution. He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this Nation. He would have been right at the great moments of international threat we faced in the 20th century. I cannot think of a single moment in this Nation's 220-plus year history where he would not have been a valuable asset to this country. Certainly today that is not any less true."

Why am I drawing this to your attention? Because this "great" and "wonderful" Senator from West Virginia, who "would have been right at any time", was a member of the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), and just a couple years ago used the word "******" on television in referring to someone else. This man is a racist. Now, those who know me know that I believe it's every man's right to honor any man they choose, however, all I am asking is where is the media coverage? In December of 2002, when Senator Lott called Senator Strom Thurmond a good man on his 100th birthday, Civil Rights organizations wanted his resignation. Media from all over the country demanded that he apologize. Where is the circus around Senator Dodd? Where is the circus around Senator Byrd? Oh, that's right, he's a liberal Democrat, so that means it doesn't matter what he says."


http://talkingdonkey.worldmagblog.com/archives/002766.html

The left is really full of racist cowards.Lott said that Thurmond should have been president. Thurmond ran on a segregationist ticket. Byrd is no longer a member of the KKK, he describes the time he spent in it as a grave mistake, and for this comment: The left is really full of racist cowards. you are an obnoxious troll.

The left is really full of racist cowards.
The human race is full of racist cowards. Yes, many socialists are counter-co-existence (Share with our friends, everyone else can piss off). Yes, many centre groups are guilty of harbouring extreme prejudice. The nationalists too are guilty of being a group with a large number of xenophobic monkeys at their foreground.

The fact is that this whole damned world is stuffed full of spiteful, hating bigots. We are them. Why isolate it to any one group of us in particular?

Whatever perpetuates social inequality based on race is racism.

Byrd did not intend such a result, and I doubt his statements had that affect.

So he's not racist, just an old guy from Appalachia who misspoke.

The Senator Robert Byrd thing came up a while ago.

Senator Byrd eloquently answered the charges of him being a racist: "I'm not racist, I hate white niggers too." --Senator R. Byrd

Friends of Bill, you should probably realize that this is hopeless. Most of the NS crowd is Liberal to the point that they won't listen to reason (that statement is not saying that Liberal=evil, it happens on both sides of the fence, and here it's true).

First off, it seems that if a Republican senator said the same thing it would be political death for them. The Democrats are seen as protectors of the people and they couldn't be racist or otherwise discriminate. However, this is not always true. Both sides have their bigots. Both sides are self-serving. It's politics.

In short, you of Nation States will slay Friends of Bill (and probably me) in this forum. Good thing we have freedom of speech. However, Friends of Bill is in large part right, Byrd and Dodd are not as wonderful as they'd like us think. I disagree with Liberals on some issues and I disagree with Conservatives on some issues. This, however, is an example of neither Liberal nor Conservative values, but selfish politics bringing a racist to the top.

The main democrat against Arnold in the California Primary (can't remember his name...) was a member of a racist organization and used that n-word multiple times and it got relatively little cover.

The Senator Robert Byrd thing came up a while ago.

Senator Byrd eloquently answered the charges of him being a racist: "I'm not racist, I hate white niggers too." --Senator R. ByrdHe's quite old, isn't he?

whats so bad about racists? :?
I know several racists who are very nice....

When confronted by their hipocracy, the silence is deafening from the left.

On the record of Race:

Strom Thurmond: Was once a Dixiecrat (Democrat) who supported segregation. He later left the party of segregation, the confederacy, and opposition to Civil Rights. He later became a Republican, the party formed on the basis of private land ownership and opposition to the expansion of slavery and it's abolishment, the party that proposed, sponsored, and passed the 13th, 14th, and 15 amendments, which abolished slavery and granted citizenship and voting rights to African Americans. Thurmond also supported Clarence Thomas's passage into the Supreme Court.

Robert Byrd: Was a Former Ku Klux Klan member and has always been a member of the Democratic Party. Liberals try to defend Byrd by passing off his years as a Grand Kleagle for the KKK, meaning he recruited other young impressionable youth into the KKK, until he was in his 40s as a "youthful indiscretion" and Byrd hasn't even officially apologized for spending a large portion of his life as a Ku Klux Klan member. Byrd even used the N word as late as three years ago on national TV. Senator Byrd opposed both Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas's passages into the Supreme Court.

Robert Byrd is the biggest racist in the Democratic Party (and probably modern politics) that the Mainstream Media will never drill into your head. My question to Liberals is, Why? Even Pres. Bush had the balls to condemn Senator Lott, so why is it that the Left is either silent about Byrd or try to defend him? Why cant' you publicly ask Byrd t o step down or hold any protests? Is it because he's a Democrat instead of Republican? Or does the Left really believe that being a former Dixiecrat (sub group of the Democratic Party) who used to support segregation is somehow worse than being a former KKK member who's affiliation alone expresses HATRED of blacks and currently using the N word. This is why I will NEVER be, support, understand, or vote for Democrats. As a minority, the hyposcrisy makes you want to tear your hair out.

The Senator Robert Byrd thing came up a while ago.

Senator Byrd eloquently answered the charges of him being a racist: "I'm not racist, I hate white niggers too." --Senator R. Byrd

This crap is PRICELESS. The liberal silence astounds me.

To be fair, he is from West Virginia, where the n word is taught in school. You have to consider what it's like to be from a coal town in West Virginia. I know that's the same as saying "it's not that kid's fault he joined a gang, he was raised in the inner city" but truthfully, that kinda does make it "alright" depending on what he does while in the gang, and assuming they use the gang as protection long enough to get the hell out. Southern WV isn't like the nicer side of San Francisco (like where Full House took place)- had he grown up there he probably wouldn't have said, man I should go join the Klan. But for a kid growing up where he did, it wasn't so out of place- and definitely wasn't any big deal. Most likely they said, "Hey, we hang out on saturdays- drink beer and stuff, maybe play cards- wanna join?" But possibly hw was told that he had to join the Klan or they would "chase him down just like any other ni%%er's"
Errr...that sounds too real for me...
He's not as bad, however, as ex-congressman Bob Wise...good thing he's confined to WV now. The whole place can go down in flames for all I care...

....In short, you of Nation States will slay Friends of Bill (and probably me) in this forum...

Not really. liberals don't have the balls to confront this issue.

....In short, you of Nation States will slay Friends of Bill (and probably me) in this forum...

Not really. liberals don't have the balls to confront this issue.Hence, the death of this thread.

....In short, you of Nation States will slay Friends of Bill (and probably me) in this forum...

Not really. liberals don't have the balls to confront this issue.I'm a liberal, and I've made 3 posts on a 18 post thread. 15% of all the posts on this (distinctly lame-ass) topic are mine. However, as I am not a reporter, or an editor, or a newspaper owner, or a stockholder in a media conglomerate, I don't know why this story hasn't been picked up, except for my first post where I said that I don't think that this shows the same kind of support for a racist political stance as Lott's comments did. If you disagree, thats fine, but you haven't said so which makes it rather hard for me to argue with you, so unless you also are actually going to contribute to this discussion in a point-counterpoint manner then you don't have much to talk about.

[self-edited now that I'm thinking better]

The Senator Robert Byrd thing came up a while ago.

Senator Byrd eloquently answered the charges of him being a racist: "I'm not racist, I hate white niggers too." --Senator R. Byrd

Robert Byrd kicks ass.

The main democrat against Arnold in the California Primary (can't remember his name...) was a member of a racist organization and used that n-word multiple times and it got relatively little cover.

Did anything get coverage except Schwarzennegger in those elections?

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[Moderator Edit - Cogitation] Please don't do that. [/modedit]

"Racism is good, when said by the right people... right?


This excerpt is taken from a speech within the US Senate honoring the 17,000th vote in Senate by Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV): (the Senator speaking is Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT))

"It has often been said that the man and the moment come together. I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia that he would have been a great Senator at any moment. Some were right for the time . ROBERT C. BYRD , in my view, would have been right at any time . He would have been right at the founding of this country. He would have been in the leadership crafting this Constitution. He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this Nation. He would have been right at the great moments of international threat we faced in the 20th century. I cannot think of a single moment in this Nation's 220-plus year history where he would not have been a valuable asset to this country. Certainly today that is not any less true."

Why am I drawing this to your attention? Because this "great" and "wonderful" Senator from West Virginia, who "would have been right at any time", was a member of the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), and just a couple years ago used the word "******" on television in referring to someone else. This man is a racist. Now, those who know me know that I believe it's every man's right to honor any man they choose, however, all I am asking is where is the media coverage? In December of 2002, when Senator Lott called Senator Strom Thurmond a good man on his 100th birthday, Civil Rights organizations wanted his resignation. Media from all over the country demanded that he apologize. Where is the circus around Senator Dodd? Where is the circus around Senator Byrd? Oh, that's right, he's a liberal Democrat, so that means it doesn't matter what he says."


http://talkingdonkey.worldmagblog.com/archives/002766.html

The left is really full of racist cowards.Lott said that Thurmond should have been president. Thurmond ran on a segregationist ticket. Byrd is no longer a member of the KKK, he describes the time he spent in it as a grave mistake, and for this comment: The left is really full of racist cowards. you are an obnoxious troll.

You're right on both counts here (especially the latter, of which nothing more needs to be said). The statement is not saying that Byrd, at any time in his life, would have been right for America; but that Byrd, at the time of the statement, would have been right for any point in American history. If he's not a racist at the time the statement was made, then there's no racism endorsed.

The main democrat against Arnold in the California Primary (can't remember his name...) was a member of a racist organization and used that n-word multiple times and it got relatively little cover.

Oh please, the circus atmosphere that prevailed during that race made the whole thing a ridiculous mess. There was plenty of uproar over it, but attention was divided amongst Arnold's sexual habits and whether the porn star or the ex-child star stood any kind of chance. It was certainly an issue, but with so much going on, it did indeed see quite small. When I learned this is about when I stopped paying attention to the race - because all cadidates seemed to be somehow defective.

None of the above.

You guys mean ADOLF Schwarzenegger?

You guys mean ADOLF Schwarzenegger?


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And the Liberals let their voices be heard! Moron!

....In short, you of Nation States will slay Friends of Bill (and probably me) in this forum...

Not really. liberals don't have the balls to confront this issue.I'm a liberal, and I've made 3 posts on a 18 post thread. 15% of all the posts on this (distinctly lame-ass) topic are mine. However, as I am not a reporter, or an editor, or a newspaper owner, or a stockholder in a media conglomerate, I don't know why this story hasn't been picked up, except for my first post where I said that I don't think that this shows the same kind of support for a racist political stance as Lott's comments did. If you disagree, thats fine, but you haven't said so which makes it rather hard for me to argue with you, so unless you also are actually going to contribute to this discussion in a point-counterpoint manner then you don't have much to talk about.

[self-edited now that I'm thinking better]

Again, agreed. Some people aren't getting the response they want, so they're just not reading the posts. Not exactly unusual for this group, though.

Why is this not going reported? Assuming what I said wasn't true of Dodd's meaning for the sake of this argument, Lott and Thurmond are far more high profile. I've only heard of Byrd and maybe Dodd in passing, much less their positions on anything. The media covers what will get it ratings, plain and simple. I love how some Republicans will leap on anything to cite Liberal bias. Yeah, because we all know that the whole Clinton/Lewinsky thing was greatly under-reported. But, if you say it enough, it becomes true, I guess.

You guys mean ADOLF Schwarzenegger?


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And the Liberals let their voices be heard! Moron!

*snicker* Thanks for evidencing what I just said, and Spoffin said before me.

Hm...

By the by, I'd just like to point out that 90+% of Democrats do not appear to be liberal, at least in my opinion. But, then again, I'm a no-good Canadian Socialist (*gasp* :o), so what do I know?

Anyway, if I was American, I most likely would not be a Democrat supporter except in extreme cases (keeping out an extreme or beyond-moderate Social Authoritarian).

You guys mean ADOLF Schwarzenegger?


:roll:


And the Liberals let their voices be heard! Moron!

Moddalert for flaming!!! Try again and this will delete ya :wink:

BTW if you would understand my name you would know that my opinions are the same as George ones. rightwing, but Arnold is Adolf :P

Hm...

By the by, I'd just like to point out that 90+% of Democrats do not appear to be liberal, at least in my opinion. But, then again, I'm a no-good Canadian Socialist (*gasp* :o), so what do I know?

Anyway, if I was American, I most likely would not be a Democrat supporter except in extreme cases (keeping out an extreme or beyond-moderate Social Authoritarian).

"Liberal" is an easy label for some people to throw around. They don't necessarily have to put any thought into the actual usage, since it's all stereotyping and partisan politics anyway. Arguing about it in most cases is like arguing about running techniques in the Special Olympics.

Ah, now the thread dies, I see how it is. :wink:

You guys mean ADOLF Schwarzenegger?

:roll:

And the Liberals let their voices be heard! Moron!

Cut out the insults. Now.

Try again and this will delete ya :wink:

Please be more careful, as this statement almost sounds as though you're implying that you're a Moderator and that you're prepared to carry out the threat of deletion.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

The reason no one's picked up on this is because no one cares. Really, everyone's heard of Thurmond. But I'd never even heard of Senator Byrd until this thread was made. And even now I'm not sure who he is.
Though this is a regrettable act, it's not worth calling all liberals racist over. These are the actions of one person, who does not represent the democratic party as a whole.

Dons Republican or Democrat hat (it doesn't really matter which).

Yes, racism is just fine, as long as a member of *my* party is the racist! Otherwise, it's a horrible, bigotted thing to say.

LOL