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12 Marines, 66 Iraqis Killed in Battles

07-04-2004, 09:01
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12 Marines, 66 Iraqis Killed in Battles

By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer

NAJAF, Iraq - Insurgents and rebellious Shiites mounted a string of attacks across Iraq (news - web sites)'s Shiite south and U.S. Marines launched a major assault on the turbulent Sunni city of Fallujah on Tuesday. Up to a dozen Marines, two more coalition soldiers and at least 66 Iraqis were reported killed.




Troops were battling in a half-dozen cities on two fronts in some of the most extensive fighting since President Bush declared major combat over on May 1. U.S. forces fought insurgents in Sunni triangle cities of Fallujah and Ramadi west of Baghdad, and coalition troops battled Shiite militiamen of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in the south.


"America has shown its evil intentions, and the proud Iraqi people cannot accept it," al-Sadr said in a statement. "They must defend their rights by any means they see fit."


With fighting intensifying ahead of the June 30 handover of power to an Iraqi government, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said American commanders in Iraq would get additional troops if needed. None has asked so far, he said.


"They will decide what they need, and they will get what they need," Rumsfeld said.


Reports from Ramadi, near Fallujah, said dozens of Iraqis attacked a Marine position near the governor's palace, a senior defense official said from Washington. "A significant number" of Marines were killed, and initial reports indicate it may be up to a dozen, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.


Heavy casualties were inflicted on the insurgents as well, officials said. It was not immediately known who the attackers were, nor whether the attack was related to fighting under way in nearby Fallujah.


Depending on the number of Ramadi deaths, Tuesday's casualties could have brought the the three-day total as high as about 30 Americans and more than 130 Iraqis killed in the fighting.


On the Fallujah front, Marines drove into the center of the Sunni city in heavy fighting before pulling back before nightfall. The assault had been promised after the brutal killings and mutilations of four American civilians there last week. Hospital officials said eight Iraqis died Tuesday and 20 were wounded, including women and children.


Marines waged a fierce battle for hours Tuesday with gunmen holed up in a residential neighborhood of Fallujah. The military used a deadly AC-130 gunship to lay down a barrage of fire against guerrillas, and commanders said Marines were holding an area several blocks deep inside the city. At least two Marines were wounded.


U.S. warplanes firing rockets destroyed four houses in Fallujah after nightfall Tuesday, witnesses said. A doctor said 26 Iraqis, including women and children, were killed and 30 wounded in the strike. The deaths brought to 34 the number of Iraqis killed in Fallujah on Tuesday.


The dusty, Euphrates River city 35 miles west of Baghdad is a stronghold of the anti-U.S. insurgency that sprang up shortly after Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s ouster a year ago.


"We are several blocks deep in the city of Fallujah," Marine Maj. Briandon McGolwan said. He said several helicopters were hit by small arms fire, but none were downed. He said Marines had detained 14 people since Monday.


U.S. Marines encircled Fallujah early Monday, and on Tuesday, they penetrated several central neighborhoods for the first time. Mortar and rocket-propelled grenade blasts were heard, and one witness said a Humvee was ablaze.


Heavy fighting also occurred between Marines entrenched in the desert and guerrillas firing from houses on Fallujah's northeast outskirts. For hours into the night, the sides traded fire, while teams of Marines moved in and out of the neighborhood, seizing buildings to use as posts and battling gunmen. Helicopters weaved overhead, firing at guerrilla hide-outs.


U.S. authorities launched their offensive against al-Sadr and his militia after a series of weekend uprisings in Baghdad and cities and towns to the south that took a heavy toll in both American and Iraqi lives.


The fight against al-Sadr, who has drawn backing from young and impoverished Shiites with rousing sermons demanding a U.S. withdrawal, sent his black-garbed militiamen against coalition troops Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.





Fighting in the southern cities of Nasiriyah, Kut, Karbala and Amarah and in a northern Baghdad neighborhood killed 32 Iraqis, coalition military officials said. Tuesday evening, gunfire was heard in another part of Baghdad, Sadr City, where fierce battles occurred Sunday, residents said.

_ In Nasiriyah on Tuesday, 15 Iraqis were killed and 35 wounded in clashes between militiamen and Italian troops, coalition spokeswoman Paola Della Casa told an Italian news agency Apcom. Eleven Italians troops were slightly wounded.

Della Casa said the Iraqi attackers used civilians as human shields, and a woman and two children were among the dead.

_ Fighting overnight in Amarah between al-Sadr's followers and British troops killed 15 Iraqis and wounded eight, said coalition spokesman Wun Hornbyckle.

_ In Kut, militiamen attacked an armored personnel carrier carrying Ukrainian soldiers, killing one and wounding five, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry said. Two militiamen were killed in the fight. Ukraine has about 1,650 troops in Iraq.

L. Paul Bremer, the top civilian administrator in Iraq, conceded not all was going smoothly as the coalition approached the June 30 handover, a date he said was inviolable.

"We have problems, there's no hiding that. But basically Iraq is on track to realize the kind of Iraq that Iraqis want and Americans want, which is a democratic Iraq," he said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Fearing a U.S. move to arrest him, al-Sadr on Tuesday left a fortress-like mosque in the city of Kufa, south of Baghdad, where he had been holed up for days, his aides said. Al-Sadr's statement saying he was ready to die to oust the Americans, and he urged his followers to resist foreign forces.

Al-Sadr moved to his main office in Najaf, in an alley near the city's holiest shrine, according to a top aide, Sheik Qays al-Khaz'ali. Hundreds of militiamen were protecting the office Tuesday, but there was no independent confirmation al-Sadr was there.

State Department deputy spokesman Adam Ereli said al-Sadr and his followers were not representative of a religious cause but of "political gangsterism."

The 30-year-old al-Sadr, however, does not have a large following among majority Shiites — many see him as a renegade, too young and too headstrong to lead wisely.

Perhaps more worrisome than the current fight with al-Sadr's forces is the possibility that he will start drawing support from more mainstream Shiite leaders who have largely supported the Americans until now.

The U.S.-led coalition announced a murder warrant against al-Sadr on Monday and suggested it would move to capture him soon. It said an unnamed Iraqi judge had issued it in the past months.

The militiamen clashed with coalition troops Sunday in Baghdad and outside Najaf in fierce fighting that killed 61 people, including eight American soldiers.

A U.S. soldier was killed in Baghdad Tuesday, a day after two more were killed there. Five Marines were killed Monday — one in Fallujah and the others on the western outskirts of Baghdad. On Sunday, two soldiers were killed in Kirkuk and Mosul.

Excluding the report out of Ramadi on Tuesday evening, at least 614 American troops have died in Iraq since the war began.

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You guys said the US media has never reported any Iraqi deaths, they did in this article.
Sliders
07-04-2004, 09:17
I have a high school friend who is a Marine in Ramadi...kinda scary. One of my other friends just e-mailed me tonight to tell me...the marine's mom just called the other kid's mom because she was freaking out...she doesn't know anything....it makes me so sad...
To think...all for nothing...
Incertonia
07-04-2004, 09:31
You guys said the US media has never reported any Iraqi deaths, they did in this article.Never said any such thing, but it is amazing how little airplay the deaths of Iraqis gets when there are no corresponding US deaths or casualties. It gets reported, but on page 18 or in passing on the news brief, maybe even in the crawl that goes across the bottom of the screen. But it's not a headline.
07-04-2004, 09:33
You guys said the US media has never reported any Iraqi deaths, they did in this article.Never said any such thing, but it is amazing how little airplay the deaths of Iraqis gets when there are no corresponding US deaths or casualties. It gets reported, but on page 18 or in passing on the news brief, maybe even in the crawl that goes across the bottom of the screen. But it's not a headline.


Why should it be? Would you rather they pay attention to Iraqi deaths and ignore American ones?
Incertonia
07-04-2004, 09:37
Why should it be? Would you rather they pay attention to Iraqi deaths and ignore American ones?I'm not making a value judgment here--merely stating what happens. Of course it's bigger news here when a US soldier dies, and of course it will get more attention--that's natural.

What bugged me about the reporting in the past, although I don't ever remember making an issue of it here, was that every day for a while, Iraqis in their Civil Defense Forces--the guys we were training to take over--were getting killed in bombing raids and yet there was barely a mention of it because no Americans were killed. It just seemed a bit callous to me--these people are ostensibly our allies, after all, although you wouldn't know it from the most recent action.
Smeagol-Gollum
07-04-2004, 09:45
You guys said the US media has never reported any Iraqi deaths, they did in this article.Never said any such thing, but it is amazing how little airplay the deaths of Iraqis gets when there are no corresponding US deaths or casualties. It gets reported, but on page 18 or in passing on the news brief, maybe even in the crawl that goes across the bottom of the screen. But it's not a headline.


Why should it be? Would you rather they pay attention to Iraqi deaths and ignore American ones?

The worth of a human life cannot be measured in terms of nationality.

All deaths are a tragedy.