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My father was in the Air Force during the Vietnam War. I would probably join the Air Force, the Army, or the Marines. I do not think I would like the Navy too much, although I have more respect for the Coast Guard now that I have seen them patrolling harbors during high alerts. ~ Michael.

Airforce, although I couldn't be a pilot as my eyesight isn't 20/20

Air Force

why? Because I wanna join the AF Academy in Colorado Springs soon

oh, and if we'll ever have a "Space Force," the Air Force is going to be the branch it'll grow out of

Also, the AF is, IMO, the most technologically advanced branch


AF ALL THE WAY!

the marines 8)

Airforce, although I couldn't be a pilot as my eyesight isn't 20/20

we're in the same situation. Try the Air Force Academy. If your not nearly blind, they'll take you in for 4 years, give you a 4-yr university education, and release you as an Officer (Liet. maybe, I'm not sure, someone wanna help?)

Commanding those pilots would be better than flying...er...it sounded better in my head

I really don't get the power of the Coast Guard. Running around in their pretty boats using their microphones to tell people off....

oh, and if we'll ever have a "Space Force," the Air Force is going to be the branch it'll grow out ofAstronauts are part of the Air Force, aren't they? And how can the Air Force be the most techno advanced if the Navy has to deal with both air power and seapower? They have to fly planes off of aircraft carriers, shoot down enemy aircraft, and detect underwater threats. I would say the Navy needs to be the most superior in tech. ~ Michael.

oh, and if we'll ever have a "Space Force," the Air Force is going to be the branch it'll grow out ofAstronauts are part of the Air Force, aren't they? And how can the Air Force be the most techno advanced if the Navy has to deal with both air power and seapower? They have to fly planes off of aircraft carriers, shoot down enemy aircraft, and detect underwater threats. I would say the Navy needs to be the most superior in tech. ~ Michael.

well...yeah....your probably right :oops:

anyways, astronauts aren't "Air Force," they're something completly different. Sure, some astronauts are former AF pilots and everything. But an astronaut isn't really a member of the Air Force.

I almost joined the Army Reserves about 7 years ago--I chose them at the time because they were offering split training and the best benefits, but that was so long ago that I don't know if that still holds. Looking back, I'm glad I backed out.

Wed all wanna be a pilot. Who wouldnt wanan fly? But it takes a special kind of arrogance to be a pilot. I know. They are all assholes.

Id want a ground role. Like army or marines.

Has anyone else noticed the MYSTERIOUS amount of helicopter crashes? I mean, I think half of the accidental deaths were caused by helicopter crashes in Iraq

Air Force, Coast Guard, or Navy. If someone starts shooting at me, I want a metal box around me. I don't care if it makes me a bigger target, it just makes me feel better.

Wed all wanna be a pilot. Who wouldnt wanan fly? But it takes a special kind of arrogance to be a pilot. I know. They are all assholes.

Id want a ground role. Like army or marines.

stfu n00b, run along now lil girl


like that? OOOOOooooooooooooo....I'm good :shock:

Air Force, Coast Guard, or Navy. If someone starts shooting at me, I want a metal box around me. I don't care if it makes me a bigger target, it just makes me feel better.

I'd prefer a metal box around me on a roller coaster. I mean, flying around 30-50 mph in an open box really isn't much on safety....

Has anyone else noticed the MYSTERIOUS amount of helicopter crashes? I mean, I think half of the accidental deaths were caused by helicopter crashes in IraqIt's not so mysterious--I've read a few columns by people who think the Blackhawk is overrated, and if my memory serves, that's the one that has crashed the most often.

Has anyone else noticed the MYSTERIOUS amount of helicopter crashes? I mean, I think half of the accidental deaths were caused by helicopter crashes in IraqThat's because the helicopters that they use are not very safe, and get rapidly effed-up in the sand. Black Hawks especially don't operate well under those conditions. Unfortunately, there's not much of a selection. And considering the other equipment that the military is shorting our people on the front lines I'm not surprised that this is a problem too. I mean seriously, the rifles they're using were proved prone to jamming and unsafe by a congressional committee after the Vietnam war. And the army's still handing them out to our soldiers. Well, I'm going off topic so I'll shut up. This has been a rant by Zeke Zabertini.

Has anyone else noticed the MYSTERIOUS amount of helicopter crashes? I mean, I think half of the accidental deaths were caused by helicopter crashes in IraqI don't think there's anything mysterious about it. Helicopters are the most dangerous machines you could fly. Unlike airplanes, no helicopter I know of has ejector seats. If you are a pilot or copilot, it would be very hard for you to get out of your seat and jump for it if your chopper is going down. Plus do helicopter pilots and passengers even wear parachutes? Most choppers fly too low to the ground, in my opinion, for a parachute jump to be safe. You would likely kill yourself or break several bones if you attempted one. Helicopters look unstable even in ideal conditions, much less windy and sandy conditions. Most do not have very good armor and can easily be shot down, even with single-action rifles. ~ Michael.

Here's an excerpt from somethingawful's guide on How to Survive a War in Iraq

Step One: Don't Go Anywhere Near Helicopters


At the time of writing this article the American casualties are somewhere around 25 killed, with a whopping 18 or so of those attributed to helicopter crashes. I'm not much with math and numbers and crazy things like that but I think that's something like 99.9% of the American casualties caused by helicopters. This is in a war, with people shooting at Americans and everything, yet somehow helicopters have been transformed into bloodthirsty murder machines. In fact, not only should you not go anywhere near a helicopter, you should probably put bows on them and drive them over to where the Iraqis are hiding. Then they'll be like "wheee look at this totally radical helicopter" and Saddam will come out on the balcony and say "awesome helicopters" and then Tariq Aziz will emerge from a sewer with the sewer grate balanced comically on his head and say "cowabunga duders!"

Then the entire Iraqi Republican Guard will mount up into the murderous Blackhawks and Apaches and crash them all into the ground and die. Except for Tariq Aziz who will be surfing and possibly "hanging ten".

For some reason the concept of "staying the fuck away from helicopters" seems to be causing a problem for the top brass, who keep insisting that crash-happy choppers get loaded full of elite commandos even though five seconds after liftoff they plummet into a canyon and explode. If you're ordered to get into a helicopter by one of your stupid commanders might I offer some plausible excuses to get you out of gyrodeath.

You contracted HIV from a Kuwaiti male prostitute and your lack of T-cells might cause you to become severely airsick and vomit blood into the mouths of fellow soldiers.
Your attempts to open a can of Vienna sausages that may or may not have been discarded because of botulism was such a disheartening failure that the trauma has left you with shell shock.

Your new age religious beliefs prevent you from rising more than a few feet above sea level or else face eternal torment in the bowels of a hip and alternative hell-like location.

You refuse to ride in a helicopter unless the pilot agrees to fly with the sirens on.

Your aunt was decapitated on the set of the "Twilight Zone" movie and her death has left you mortally afraid of helicopters.

Just grin smugly and say "you chumps ride in that helicopter, I'll use my jetpack." Then when they take off go back into your tent and nap.

Explain slowly and clearly that you are allergic to plummeting to the desert floor and dying in a violent crash or burning to death while trapped in wreckage.

If none of these options work you can attempt to drive the point home by sneaking up to the Brigade commander's tent late at night and chucking grenades inside. If necessary attach notes to the grenades that read "Vote no on Issue 35".

I think I would rather take my chances in a helicopter, flying across the desert, than driving across it in a Hummer in a military convoy. ~ Michael.

Joining the US military... :roll:

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.

Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:I wouldn't know. I've never tried it, although I would, in defense of my homeland. ~ Michael.

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:I wouldn't know. I've never tried it, although I would, in defense of my homeland. ~ Michael.

Do you think going to Iraq and slaughtering Iraqis is defending your "homeland"?

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:I wouldn't know. I've never tried it, although I would, in defense of my homeland. ~ Michael.Do you think going to Iraq and slaughtering Iraqis is defending your "homeland"?America has a choice. We kill most of the terrorists in their homes, or we kill most of them outside our homes, right before or right after they attack us. ~ Michael.

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:I wouldn't know. I've never tried it, although I would, in defense of my homeland. ~ Michael.Do you think going to Iraq and slaughtering Iraqis is defending your "homeland"?America has a choice. We kill most of the terrorists in their homes, or we kill most of them outside our homes, right before or right after they attack us. ~ Michael.

That's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard.

These "terrorists" weren't even in Iraq until you invaded and messed it up.

Secondly, if they want to come to the US, there is nothing to stop you. It is not the US who can simply pick the date of engagement, it is al-Qaida and their affiliates. One day, they could be fighting in Afghanistan and then decide to pack up and move to Iraq, fight for a while, and then come to the US. By invading Iraq, you gave al-Qaida several victories.

You toppled Saddam Hussein, a person hated by al Qaida. Check for them.

You handed them another base from which to kill Americans. Check for them.

You gave them a whole bunch of new recruits - recruits that would not have been possible if Saddam was in power. Check.

3 checks for al-Qaida.
0 checks for the US.

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:I wouldn't know. I've never tried it, although I would, in defense of my homeland. ~ Michael.Do you think going to Iraq and slaughtering Iraqis is defending your "homeland"?America has a choice. We kill most of the terrorists in their homes, or we kill most of them outside our homes, right before or right after they attack us. ~ Michael.

You honestly think that "the terrorists" come from Iraq? Maybe you should pay more attention to the world around you, rather than what your government tells you.

Joining the US military... :roll:Travel to exotic places, meet new people...and kill them! ~ Michael.Yes, killing people is oh so fun! :roll:I wouldn't know. I've never tried it, although I would, in defense of my homeland. ~ Michael.

I always get weary when people start describing thier lame ass countries as Homelands

I would prefer all avowed Islamic terrorists to repent and believe on Jesus Christ in order to receive true eternal life. There is one God. Allah is not His Name. Mohammed is not His prophet. Jesus Christ is His Son. Believe! ~ Michael.

I would prefer all avowed Islamic terrorists to repent and believe on Jesus Christ in order to receive true eternal life. There is one God. Allah is not His Name. Mohammed is not His prophet. Jesus Christ is His Son. Believe! ~ Michael.

OMG! IT'S A BIBLE THUMPER! RUN! :shock:

Racist.

I always get weary when people start describing thier lame ass countries as HomelandsWhat would you prefer I call it? the Fatherland? the Motherland? Dixie? ~ Michael.

I would prefer all avowed Islamic terrorists to repent and believe on Jesus Christ in order to receive true eternal life. There is one God. Allah is not His Name. Mohammed is not His prophet. Jesus Christ is His Son. Believe! ~ Michael.OMG! IT'S A BIBLE THUMPER! RUN! :shock:

Racist.How can I be a racist? I preach that any person of any race can become a Christian. Christianity is a religion, a relationship with Jesus Christ - not a race. I am white, but I do not believe Jesus is a white man. He probably looks like a Middle Easterner. ~ Michael.

navy air force or whatever they call them, the crazy pilots on the boats (ships same thing)

Its the same thing. Its using rhetoric in everyday conversation. Where did the term Motherland and fatherland lead to. What happened to the people who used those phrases? :roll:

PROBABLY?!!?!!1

LOL

I would prefer all avowed Islamic terrorists to repent and believe on Jesus Christ in order to receive true eternal life. There is one God. Allah is not His Name. Mohammed is not His prophet. Jesus Christ is His Son. Believe! ~ Michael.OMG! IT'S A BIBLE THUMPER! RUN! :shock:

Racist.How can I be a racist? I preach that any person of any race can become a Christian. Christianity is a religion, a relationship with Jesus Christ - not a race. I am white, but I do not believe Jesus is a white man. He probably looks like a Middle Easterner. ~ Michael.

Do you believe that people that believe in Islam are "sinners" or some such?

Its the same thing. Its using rhetoric in everyday conversation. Where did the term Motherland and fatherland lead to. What happened to the people who used those phrases? :roll:Germans called Germany the Fatherland. I think Russians called Russia the Motherland. ~ Michael.

... how the hell did this become religious?

"ARRR!. A gold Dubbloon to whoever first spys the great white Savior"

I would prefer all avowed Islamic terrorists to repent and believe on Jesus Christ in order to receive true eternal life. There is one God. Allah is not His Name. Mohammed is not His prophet. Jesus Christ is His Son. Believe! ~ Michael.OMG! IT'S A BIBLE THUMPER! RUN! :shock:

Racist.How can I be a racist? I preach that any person of any race can become a Christian. Christianity is a religion, a relationship with Jesus Christ - not a race. I am white, but I do not believe Jesus is a white man. He probably looks like a Middle Easterner. ~ Michael.Do you believe that people that believe in Islam are "sinners" or some such?Yes. ~ Michael.

and yes, to quote a Russian "MOTHERLAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I would prefer all avowed Islamic terrorists to repent and believe on Jesus Christ in order to receive true eternal life. There is one God. Allah is not His Name. Mohammed is not His prophet. Jesus Christ is His Son. Believe! ~ Michael.OMG! IT'S A BIBLE THUMPER! RUN! :shock:

Racist.How can I be a racist? I preach that any person of any race can become a Christian. Christianity is a religion, a relationship with Jesus Christ - not a race. I am white, but I do not believe Jesus is a white man. He probably looks like a Middle Easterner. ~ Michael.Do you believe that people that believe in Islam are "sinners" or some such?Yes. ~ Michael.

Should the US send in the missionaries and forcibly convert the people?

Do you believe that people that believe in Islam are "sinners" or some such?Yes. ~ Michael.Should the US send in the missionaries and forcibly convert the people?No. ~ Michael.

Its the same thing. Its using rhetoric in everyday conversation. Where did the term Motherland and fatherland lead to. What happened to the people who used those phrases? :roll:Germans called Germany the Fatherland. I think Russians called Russia the Motherland. ~ Michael.

Yes. And control was lost by the populations of those countires because of wiley politicians who knew how to manipulate the populace with rhetoric and concepts like the land being your related to family in some way.

Who uses the term "Land" in every day speech. Its a term that only exists to invoke emotion from others. Makes you feel proud dont it? Proud enough to fight to protect it? And the proud can be easilly blinded, and led/.

i ask yet again, how the hell did this turn religious?

Do you believe that people that believe in Islam are "sinners" or some such?Yes. ~ Michael.Should the US send in the missionaries and forcibly convert the people?No. ~ Michael.

Okay, fine, you may not be a racist but you are one of those religious nutcases. :)

Just to let you know - I'm against all religions. :)

i ask yet again, how the hell did this turn religious?

Its all in the record read for yourself.

id rather not read.................. ill just leave

I think it was anbars fault. Ill need to read to be sure.

I think it was anbars fault. Ill need to read to be sure.I brought up that I would prefer it if Islamic terrorists would convert to Christianity. I would prefer for all to come to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. ~ Michael.

None - you get shot at and die occasionally. Why the hell would you do that? I'm all for defending my country, but I don't think giving my life in some Arabian desert is going to make my country any safer.

BTW - I'm Australian, I couldn't join the US forces anyway. And yes, we too have troops in Iraq who aren't making my country any safer, just wasting my tax payer dollars supporting US foriegn policy.

None - you get shot at and die occasionally. Why the hell would you do that? I'm all for defending my country, but I don't think giving my life in some Arabian desert is going to make my country any safer.

BTW - I'm Australian, I couldn't join the US forces anyway. And yes, we too have troops in Iraq who aren't making my country any safer, just wasting my tax payer dollars supporting US foriegn policy.Actually, believe it or not, non-citizens can come to the U.S. and join the military. ~ Michael.

None - you get shot at and die occasionally. Why the hell would you do that? I'm all for defending my country, but I don't think giving my life in some Arabian desert is going to make my country any safer.

BTW - I'm Australian, I couldn't join the US forces anyway. And yes, we too have troops in Iraq who aren't making my country any safer, just wasting my tax payer dollars supporting US foriegn policy.Actually, believe it or not, non-citizens can come to the U.S. and join the military. ~ Michael.

Believe it or not, I'm not going to. The US miltary hasn't exactly got the best reputation in Australia after Vietnam and WW2, we think for the most part it's poorly trained and overly reliant on firepower. No offense, I'm not saying Americans are cowards, I think all men willing to get shot at have to have ba**s irrespective of race. We just do things differently.

If I was going to join a miltary force otehr than Australias, it would probably be the British. We have similar methods.

None - you get shot at and die occasionally. Why the hell would you do that? I'm all for defending my country, but I don't think giving my life in some Arabian desert is going to make my country any safer.

BTW - I'm Australian, I couldn't join the US forces anyway. And yes, we too have troops in Iraq who aren't making my country any safer, just wasting my tax payer dollars supporting US foriegn policy.Actually, believe it or not, non-citizens can come to the U.S. and join the military. ~ Michael.

Didnt the Romans also have a thing whereas you served in the Military and then you got roman citizenship?

Also Starship Troopers WOOO. Arent they making a sequal? Frickin sellouts.

Do you believe that people that believe in Islam are "sinners" or some such?Yes. ~ Michael.Should the US send in the missionaries and forcibly convert the people?No. ~ Michael.

Okay, fine, you may not be a racist but you are one of those religious nutcases. :)

Just to let you know - I'm against all religions. :)This all has been very interesting to follow. Let's see if I can put it in order here;
1.) Very good conversation between these two people dealing with the armed forces.
2.) Love Poetry makes a statement supported by his faith.
3.) Al Anbar calls LP a racist (I think this has something to do with LP being a Christian)
4.) LP tries to bring the conversation back to the armed forces.
5.) Al Anbar changes his mind and says LP is Not a racist but a "Religious Nutcase".

Now looking back it appears that the over-reacting nutcase is the one that got totally sidetracked just at the mention of a faith.

Oh just to let you all know: The American Space Program has always been under the jurisdiction of the Department of the Navy. Astronauts may come from any branch (and all have been represented), or don't have to be military personnel at all. All of the astronauts are under the direct orders of the Navy when on missions.

Wow. Love Poetry is the most Un-American *beep* I've EVER seen!

Did you know that there are Islamic members within your own country? Me, for example? The same guy who's going to be an Air Force Officer...

I really hope your doing this for laughs

I think it was anbars fault. Ill need to read to be sure.I brought up that I would prefer it if Islamic terrorists would convert to Christianity. I would prefer for all to come to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. ~ Michael.

Are you serious? Maybe we all don't believe in this Jesus Christ of yours and don't want to. I'm an athiest and happy for it, atleast I make up my own mind about whats right and wrong. Religion - it's a personal belief, it should stay that way, personal.

I think it was anbars fault. Ill need to read to be sure.I brought up that I would prefer it if Islamic terrorists would convert to Christianity. I would prefer for all to come to a saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. ~ Michael.

Are you serious? Maybe we all don't believe in this Jesus Christ of yours and don't want to. I'm an athiest and happy for it, atleast I make up my own mind about whats right and wrong. Religion - it's a personal belief, it should stay that way, personal.

Hence his preference - a form of personal belief - that all come to know Christ.

Enlist into the Air Force.

I live in Canada. I joined the Army, specifically MI. Never looked back since.

And the point of joining the armed services is not to die for you country; its to make sure the other bastard dies for his.

Yay, Air Force is winning!

*celebrates*

Enlist into the Air Force.

I live in Canada. I joined the Army, specifically MI. Never looked back since.

And the point of joining the armed services is not to die for you country; its to make sure the other bastard dies for his.

got that from Joseph Stalin didn't you? CALL OF DUTY!

Enlist into the Air Force.

I live in Canada. I joined the Army, specifically MI. Never looked back since.

And the point of joining the armed services is not to die for you country; its to make sure the other bastard dies for his.

got that from Joseph Stalin didn't you? CALL OF DUTY!

He got that form Patton (the movie).
I think that joining the navy is the safest be, not counting accidents, because (I think) that there are no major navies to compete with the US except those of Britain and maybe Germany. And all of the oil is in the middle east, which isn't big on the whole water thing.

Actually, I'm a bit biased, but the safest is really probably the Air Force. I think we're the least combatitive of the other branches.

Army.

There's also another reason why I'd prefer the AF over the other branches

Here's the likely way you'll die in each of the US Military branches. Following with my comments

Army - Bullet wound, I do not wanna be a dead body among hundreds of other bustling or dead bodies.

Navy - drowning/suffocating, I have a personal fear for both. I love swimming, but I won't wanna drown...*shudders*

Coast Guard - umm...never seen a dead coastguard....

Air Force - Getting shot down, I'd like people to look at my plane blow up into a hundred pieces and go "COOL!"...sad yes....but it's the best way to go. And besides, the remains of your plane will fall down somewhere, giving you a nice fiery commemoration of your death

I am SO insensitive

Its the same thing. Its using rhetoric in everyday conversation. Where did the term Motherland and fatherland lead to. What happened to the people who used those phrases? :roll:

Germans never used the term "fatherland." That was Hitler's word. Heimat's the traditional term. :wink: