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Any unbiased theologen will tell you that Christ was most certainly not born in december, or winter at all for that matter. Most peg it sometime in late march or early april.

Many people mark today, April 6th, as the day Jesus of Nazareth was truely born. I don't know who officially started that recognition, but it's at least 174 years old (Which was when the LDS religion received the knowledge of that date)

And Apirl 6th is also an important date in LDS history too. On april 6th, 1830, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints was officially founded. April 6th 1830 was also the day that Elijah returned to the Earth, and appeared at the Kirtland Temple, and gave the LDS church the power and authority to redeem the dead.

Can anyone think of some other stuff that happened on this day in history? Doesn't have to be religious.

OLYMPIAD REBORN:

On April 6, 1896, the Olympic Games, a long-lost tradition of ancient Greece, are reborn in Athens 1,500 years after being banned by Roman Emperor Theodosius I. At the opening of the Athens Games, King Georgios I of Greece and a crowd of 60,000 spectators welcomed athletes from 13 nations to the international competition.

The first recorded Olympic Games were held at Olympia in the Greek city-state of Elis in 776 B.C., but it is generally accepted that the Olympics were at least 500 years old at that time. The ancient Olympics, held every four years, occurred during a religious festival honoring the Greek god Zeus. In the eighth century B.C., contestants came from a dozen or more Greek cities, and by the fifth century B.C. from as many as 100 cities from throughout the Greek empire. Initially, Olympic competition was limited to foot races, but later a number of other events were added, including wrestling, boxing, horse and chariot racing, and military competitions. The pentathlon, introduced in 708 B.C., consisted of a foot race, the long jump, discus and javelin throws, and wrestling. With the rise of Rome, the Olympics declined, and in 393 A.D. the Roman Emperor Theodosius I, a Christian, abolished the Games as part of his efforts to suppress paganism in the Roman Empire.

With the Renaissance, Europe began a long fascination with ancient Greek culture, and in the 18th and 19th centuries some nations staged informal sporting and folkloric festivals bearing the name "Olympic Games." However, it was not until 1892 that a young French baron, Pierre de Coubertin, seriously proposed reviving the Olympics as a major international competition that would occur every four years. At a conference on international sport in Paris in June 1894, Coubertin again raised the idea, and the 79 delegates from nine countries unanimously approved his proposal. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) was formed, and the first Games were planned for 1896 in Athens, the capital of Greece.

In Athens, 280 participants from 13 nations competed in 43 events, covering track-and-field, swimming, gymnastics, cycling, wrestling, weightlifting, fencing, shooting, and tennis. All the competitors were men, and a few of the entrants were tourists who stumbled upon the Games and were allowed to sign up. The track-and-field events were held at the Panathenaic Stadium, which was originally built in 330 B.C. and restored for the 1896 Games. Americans won nine out of 12 of these events. The 1896 Olympics also featured the first marathon competition, which followed the 25-mile route run by a Greek soldier who brought news of a victory over the Persians from Marathon to Athens in 490 B.C. In 1924, the marathon was standardized at 26 miles and 385 yards. Appropriately, a Greek, Spyridon Louis, won the first marathon at the 1896 Athens Games.

Pierre de Coubertin became IOC president in 1896 and guided the Olympic Games through its difficult early years, when it lacked much popular support and was overshadowed by world's fairs. In 1924, the first truly successful Olympic Games were held in Paris, involving more than 3,000 athletes, including more than 100 women, from 44 nations. The first Winter Olympic Games were also held that year. In 1925, Coubertin retired. The Olympic Games have come to be regarded as the foremost international sports competition. At the 2000 Summer Olympic in Sydney, more than 10,000 athletes from 200 countries competed, including nearly 4,000 women.

1830 Mormon Church established

In Fayette Township, New York, Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon religion, organizes the Church of Christ during a meeting with a small group of believers.

Born in Vermont in 1805, Smith claimed in 1823 that he had been visited by a Christian angel named Moroni who spoke to him of an ancient Hebrew text that had been lost for 1,500 years. The holy text, supposedly engraved on gold plates by a Native American historian in the fourth century, related the story of Israelite peoples who had lived in America in ancient times. During the next six years, Smith dictated an English translation of this text to his wife and other scribes, and in 1830 The Book of Mormon was published. In the same year, Smith founded the Church of Christ--later known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints--in Fayette Township.

The religion rapidly gained converts, and Smith set up Mormon communities in Ohio, Missouri, and Illinois. However, the Christian sect was also heavily criticized for its unorthodox practices, such as polygamy, and on June 27, 1844, Smith and his brother were murdered in a jail cell by an anti-Mormon mob in Carthage, Illinois.

Two years later, Smith's successor, Brigham Young, led an exodus of persecuted Mormons from Nauvoo, Illinois, along the western wagon trails in search of religious and political freedom. In July 1847, the 148 initial Mormon pioneers reached Utah's Valley of the Great Salt Lake. Upon viewing the valley, Young declared, "This is the place," and the pioneers began preparations for the tens of thousands of Mormon migrants who would follow them and settle there

*applauds TTE* It's very rare to find an unbiased bried history of mormonism, good job :)

*looks around nervously*

*http://www.historychannel.com falls out of pocket*

*looks around nervously*

*http://www.historychannel.com falls out of pocket*

Ha! Cheater! :P

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

Im pretty sure that the reason we celebrate Christmas in December is this

Its aroudn the same time as Winter solstice so when the Christains converted the Pegens, instead of abloshing their holoidays, they re-adapted them, since a religion has to adapt to the culture its trying to convert if its going to have any luck

-Edit- Thanks Aiera for correctiong the spelling

Mmmm...that, and there's a symbolism. Christmas was chosen to be near to (or on) the winter solstice, because it's regarded as the darkest day of the year (least amount of daylight, in hours). So to put Christmas there made a certain sense, since Christ is the light of the world. Light shines brightest in dark places, no?

:D Aiera

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

Happy Birthday Mallberta :P

Mmmm...that, and there's a symbolism. Christmas was chosen to be near to (or on) the winter solstice, because it's regarded as the darkest day of the year (least amount of daylight, in hours). So to put Christmas there made a certain sense, since Christ is the light of the world. Light shines brightest in dark places, no?

:D Aiera

I never thought if it that way, good point

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

If you consider pedophile religious nuts good company...

Mmmm...that, and there's a symbolism. Christmas was chosen to be near to (or on) the winter solstice, because it's regarded as the darkest day of the year (least amount of daylight, in hours). So to put Christmas there made a certain sense, since Christ is the light of the world. Light shines brightest in dark places, no?

:D Aiera

Actually christmas is a heathen festival. It was just "convenient" to have it at this date, because then the heathens didn't have to change their ways too much if they turned christian. Kind of like turning jewish but keeping christmas.

Isnt that kind of what i just said......?

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

If you consider a pedophile religious nuts good company...

thats pretty closed minded of you, assume every Christain likes to molest little boys in the backs of churches, besides the only recorded case of that is within the catholic church, you just lumped pver 175,000 diffrent religions into one stereotype, thats GOT to be a neew record, no offense though, i figure you were only trying to make a joke, but you might offend a bunch of people by saying that

-EDIT- to make it sound less pssy

Isnt that kind of what i just said......?

:oops: Yes...Yes it is...

Isnt that kind of what i just said......?

:oops: Yes...Yes it is...

:), np

according to my Latin teacher, the probable reason Christmas was implemented was to discourage people (both pagan and Christian) from celebrating the festival of Saturnalia which honored the god Saturn... it must've a really fun festival with lots of partying, drinking, etc.

Isnt that kind of what i just said......?

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

If you consider a pedophile religious nuts good company...

thats pretty closed minded of you, assume every Christain likes to molest little boys in the backs of churches, besides the only recorded case of that is within the catholic church, you just lumped pver 175,000 diffrent religions into one stereotype, thats GOT to be a neew record, no offense though, i figure you were only trying to make a joke, but you might offend a bunch of people by saying that

-EDIT- to make it sound less pssy

Nah, the date comes from the founder of the Latter Day Saints cult...Which wasn't just crazy, but also liked to marry little girls.

ah, i learned in my religion classes that the date was tied to Winter Solstice....i never heard anything about LDA haveing anything to do with it, but, meh, who know

lol, too many women....heh

ah, i learned in my religion classes that the date was tied to Winter Solstice....i never heard anything about LDA haveing anything to do with it, but, meh, who know

lol, too many women....heh

Not that date, the one the starter of this thread referred to: April 6th.

ah, i learned in my religion classes that the date was tied to Winter Solstice....i never heard anything about LDA haveing anything to do with it, but, meh, who know

lol, too many women....heh

Not that date, the one the starter of this thread referred to: April 6th.

ah, yeh, thatd be cause Raysia is Mormon

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

Happy birthday, Mallberta! :D

(Your NS BD is the same as my RL BD) :)

It is believed that Jesus was born on the 17th of April. How do I know this? It is my birthday as well.

On this date in 1917 the United States declared war on Germany and entered World War I

not going to comment....

not going to comment....
confused, was it a bad thing? :?

not going to comment....
confused, was it a bad thing? :?

lets just say I'll leave this one alone!!!

whoa, it's also my birthday. Nice to know I'm in good company.

Well, happy birthday to you.