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Dead-Air America?

04-04-2004, 11:02
How long do you guys really think this new "Air America" radio station will survive? Will there be enough people in the talk radio audience willing to listen to this network for more than 5 minutes at a time? Or will people be curious at first, then go back to the other radio stations?

http://www.airamericaradio.com/
Incertonia
04-04-2004, 11:15
My guess--and it's only that, a guess--is that it will survive and even thrive simply because there's a void in that segment of the marketplace. Right-wing talk radio is thick on the ground but liberal voices are hard to come by. It will take time, and there will be plenty of people who will try to strangle it in its crib, but there's a demand out there for something.

Now does that mean that Franken will beat Limbaugh and O'Reilly in the ratings race? Not for a long time, and perhaps never--they're experienced and have cachet and are good at what they do, and Franken is a novice at this particular type of performance. But I think Air America will prosper because there's a void and this fills that void.
04-04-2004, 19:22
True, but liberal talk radio has been tried in the past, and it keeps failing because liberal talk radio tends to be either Boring, Annoying Conspiracy Theories, Or Right-Bashing jokes. I don't know why they can't stick to the issues and/or facts, but it just seems to be their problem.

I'll stick with listening to the liberals call in on the other radio shows... you still get to hear what they think, but it's just less... annoying? :P
Collaboration
04-04-2004, 20:09
What would it take to get some version of this radio station onto the internet?
04-04-2004, 20:15
What would it take to get some version of this radio station onto the internet?Umm, try clicking that link I posted? :P

Realmedia stream: http://play.rbn.com/?url=airam/airam/live/live.rm&proto=rtsp
Stephistan
04-04-2004, 20:15
True, but liberal talk radio has been tried in the past, and it keeps failing because liberal talk radio tends to be either Boring, Annoying Conspiracy Theories, Or Right-Bashing jokes. I don't know why they can't stick to the issues and/or facts, but it just seems to be their problem.

I'll stick with listening to the liberals call in on the other radio shows... you still get to hear what they think, but it's just less... annoying? :P

The reason "liberal talk-radio" hasn't worked in the past is because they have been put on the same radio stations as people like "Rush and co" .. these radio stations have tried to have it both ways. The reality is nothing like this has ever been tried. This isn't just a liberal talk show host. It's a whole radio station. That hasn't been tried before. Given that more then 50% of the country didn't vote for Bush in 2000, of course there is a market for it. Sure they're only starting with 6 markets.. but hey, Rush only started with 1. So.. we shall see. I wish them the best of luck. It sure would be nice to see talk radio a bit more balanced instead of the right-wing monopoly it is now.
04-04-2004, 20:49
Good point, steph.

So you think this station will hold a competitive audience?
Panhandlia
04-04-2004, 21:14
Good point, steph.

So you think this station will hold a competitive audience?

It might, as long as they carefully screen their callers. As soon as Franken and Co. face real (not pretend like the "interview" with a fake Ann Coulter) callers who aren't liberal, or don't follow the liberal party line (like Ralph Nader the other day) they will be reduced to screaming talking points, and their credibility will be toast.

I'd say, give it 6 months to a year...tops.
04-04-2004, 21:16
Good point, steph.

So you think this station will hold a competitive audience?

It might, as long as they carefully screen their callers. As soon as Franken and Co. face real (not pretend like the "interview" with a fake Ann Coulter) callers who aren't liberal, or don't follow the liberal party line (like Ralph Nader the other day) they will be reduced to screaming talking points, and their credibility will be toast.

I'd say, give it 6 months to a year...tops.Yeah, that's a problem... I never heard one conservative call up while I listened... you gotta think they screen their calls... not a good sign.

All they do is agree with themselves :P
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 21:17
It depends, IMO.

For the average American, even American liberal, Bush-Bashing gets old 24/7. There's only so many times you can hear the same ol' accusations. If they can keep a varied programming schedule, then they'll probably stay alive. If they keep beating a dead horse, I don't think they'll last. One of the things people like about O'Reilly is that he'll go after Republicans and Democrats, Bush and Kerry - Sean Hannity is another matter of course :wink:
Eagleland
04-04-2004, 21:17
I thought this was a joke at first..
04-04-2004, 21:19
I thought this was a joke at first..lol no kidding... if they had launched 1 day later (april 1st) I would have just passed it off as an april fool's day joke :P
Panhandlia
04-04-2004, 21:20
I thought this was a joke at first..lol no kidding... if they had launched 1 day later (april 1st) I would have just passed it off as an april fool's day joke :P

Never know...it might still be an April Fool's joke.
Incertonia
04-04-2004, 22:01
Good point, steph.

So you think this station will hold a competitive audience?

It might, as long as they carefully screen their callers. As soon as Franken and Co. face real (not pretend like the "interview" with a fake Ann Coulter) callers who aren't liberal, or don't follow the liberal party line (like Ralph Nader the other day) they will be reduced to screaming talking points, and their credibility will be toast.

I'd say, give it 6 months to a year...tops.Uh huh--like Limbaugh et al don't crumble when they're not in control of the microphone. Please.

Look up the video of O'Reilly and Franken at the Book Expo last year on C-SPAN where O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum. Limbaugh cuts people off on his show all the time if they manage to sneak through the right-wing screen. Hannity shouts them down on tv. Savage calls them sodomites and worse.

Now I realize that that's the nature of talk radio, and I imagine that all the hosts will do some call-screening to some extent. But don't act like they're alone in hiding from controversy, please. That just makes you look worse than foolish.
04-04-2004, 22:23
How long do you guys really think this new "Air America" radio station will survive? Will there be enough people in the talk radio audience willing to listen to this network for more than 5 minutes at a time? Or will people be curious at first, then go back to the other radio stations?

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

Your motives are pretty tranparent.

I posted an interesting article a few days ago about the differences between the political persuasions. It'd be nice to have the left's view on things represented. But I dont think the opponents of republicans will do as well at it as republicans do. They wont make as good talkradio show hosts. I dont think it'll do too well.
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 22:51
O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum.

They told O'Reilly the debate would be on the issues and then they pulled the ol' switcheroo and attacked his personal life.
Stephistan
04-04-2004, 22:57
O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum.

They told O'Reilly the debate would be on the issues and then they pulled the ol' switcheroo and attacked his personal life.

Yeah, haha I seen that.. O'Reilly really lost it. Perhaps some anger management would do that fellow some good..lol :P
04-04-2004, 23:01
O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum.

They told O'Reilly the debate would be on the issues and then they pulled the ol' switcheroo and attacked his personal life.

Yeah, haha I seen that.. O'Reilly really lost it. Perhaps some anger management would do that fellow some good..lol :Pit only went to show that the conservatives were right... people like al frankin and john kerrt can not stick to the issues, they have to result to personal attacks.
04-04-2004, 23:08
Well You know when Maddox rips into you. Your probably in the wrong

Clicky (http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly)
Incertonia
04-04-2004, 23:35
O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum.

They told O'Reilly the debate would be on the issues and then they pulled the ol' switcheroo and attacked his personal life.You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. I saw the show--I saw it 4 times last summer, because C-SPAN kept repeating it. There was never a personal attack on O'Reilly. O'Reilly got his panties in a twist because Franken caught him in several misstatements and O'Reilly didn't have the power to cut Franken's microphone, like he'd be able to do on his show.
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 23:40
O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum.

They told O'Reilly the debate would be on the issues and then they pulled the ol' switcheroo and attacked his personal life.You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. I saw the show--I saw it 4 times last summer, because C-SPAN kept repeating it. There was never a personal attack on O'Reilly. O'Reilly got his panties in a twist because Franken caught him in several misstatements and O'Reilly didn't have the power to cut Franken's microphone, like he'd be able to do on his show.

Maybe its a different thing your talking about then what I'm thinking of, as the one I usually hear people talking about is the NPR interview that was of course could have been played on C-Span.

However assuming we're thinking of different things, what exactly *did* happen? Did they talk about issues or was in Franken talking about Polk vs Peabody awards?
05-04-2004, 00:05
Franken Is a god damn Satirist. Its his job to make fun of people.
If they sting then all thats proven is that O'reilly takes himself (or his public image) too seriously. And from what I know aobut O'Reilly, he does.
05-04-2004, 00:20
Franken Is a god damn Satirist. Its his job to make fun of people.
If they sting then all thats proven is that O'reilly takes himself (or his public image) too seriously. And from what I know aobut O'Reilly, he does.Thus the basis for this poll. Can this new radio station hold an audience if all it is is satire, right-bashing, conspiracy theory, and personal attacks?
05-04-2004, 00:25
With all jokes there is a grain of truth.
I think that sounds like the compliment of right wing radio networks.
But this one will be better because it has jokes and stuff.
I say that Liberals dont get nasty in the same way that Right wing show hosts do. So It wont be the same. I dont think It will be as popular as the right wing model. But it will retain water.
Panhandlia
05-04-2004, 02:41
Good point, steph.

So you think this station will hold a competitive audience?

It might, as long as they carefully screen their callers. As soon as Franken and Co. face real (not pretend like the "interview" with a fake Ann Coulter) callers who aren't liberal, or don't follow the liberal party line (like Ralph Nader the other day) they will be reduced to screaming talking points, and their credibility will be toast.

I'd say, give it 6 months to a year...tops.Uh huh--like Limbaugh et al don't crumble when they're not in control of the microphone. Please.

Look up the video of O'Reilly and Franken at the Book Expo last year on C-SPAN where O'Reilly got so frustrated all he could do was scream "Shut up shut up shut up!" No substantive objection, no dissection of Franken's points--just a petulant child having a temper tantrum. Limbaugh cuts people off on his show all the time if they manage to sneak through the right-wing screen. Hannity shouts them down on tv. Savage calls them sodomites and worse.

Now I realize that that's the nature of talk radio, and I imagine that all the hosts will do some call-screening to some extent. But don't act like they're alone in hiding from controversy, please. That just makes you look worse than foolish.

Funny, but Limbaugh, Medved and Hannity (I don't know about O'Reilly and I know for sure Savage doesn't), all move those who disagree to the front of the phone queue. Medved even has a day dedicated to those who disagree with anything he says.

I agree about Savage...even though I find him entertaining (always fun to listen for the next outburst), he is just simply too wound up to do the cause of conservatism any good. Just realize, Franken and the rest (word to the wise, never allow Carville to have his own show, as he will singlehandedly set liberalism back 15 years) are typically just like Savage.
Sydia
05-04-2004, 03:06
I listened for about 5 minutes on the ol' Real One Player. Most of it was ads and there was a one minute piece of unfunny blurb about how 'savagely witty' they are. Yawn.
Panhandlia
05-04-2004, 03:17
I listened for about 5 minutes on the ol' Real One Player. Most of it was ads and there was a one minute piece of unfunny blurb about how 'savagely witty' they are. Yawn.

Which show was that? Not that it matters, truly.
Stephistan
05-04-2004, 03:18
it only went to show that the conservatives were right... people like al frankin and john kerrt can not stick to the issues, they have to result to personal attacks.

WHAT? So then it must just all be our imagination that the Republican attack machine is out in full force personally attacking Kerry.. distorting his record.. outright lying about, when they're not taking it out of context..

Ah, but how could I forget, All about Mr. Flip Flop himself (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132301)

That's just funny don't you think?

Pot,
Kettle,
Black!
05-04-2004, 03:25
it only went to show that the conservatives were right... people like al frankin and john kerrt can not stick to the issues, they have to result to personal attacks.

WHAT? So then it must just all be our imagination that the Republican attack machine is out in full force personally attacking Kerry.. distorting his record.. outright lying about, when they're not taking it out of context..

Ah, but how could I forget, All about Mr. Flip Flop himself (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132301)

That's just funny don't you think?

Pot,
Kettle,
Black!LOL The only reason we are "personally" attacking Kerry is because he keeps bringing up all these bogus accusations of Bush, and when we look into his past in the slightest, suddenly we're the bad guys :P

'Bush knew about 9/11! he planned the war! He was AWOL! he used 9/11 in his commercials!'
'What? Don't bug me about my past! I didn't marry my wife for the money! I didnt pay those victim-relatives to complain! So what if I was friends with Jane Fonda?'

It's just a big ol' double standard... dems can make fun of republicans all they want, but if a republican says one bad thing about a democrat, suddenly they're the bad guy.
Sydia
05-04-2004, 03:31
I listened for about 5 minutes on the ol' Real One Player. Most of it was ads and there was a one minute piece of unfunny blurb about how 'savagely witty' they are. Yawn.

Which show was that? Not that it matters, truly.

No idea, I think it was an ad for a show. Now they're on about the "wolfawitz doctrine", whatever the hell that is. They sure do like saying "grassroots" a lot, though.
Stephistan
05-04-2004, 03:32
it only went to show that the conservatives were right... people like al frankin and john kerrt can not stick to the issues, they have to result to personal attacks.

WHAT? So then it must just all be our imagination that the Republican attack machine is out in full force personally attacking Kerry.. distorting his record.. outright lying about, when they're not taking it out of context..

Ah, but how could I forget, All about Mr. Flip Flop himself (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132301)

That's just funny don't you think?

Pot,
Kettle,
Black!LOL The only reason we are "personally" attacking Kerry is because he keeps bringing up all these bogus accusations of Bush, and when we look into his past in the slightest, suddenly we're the bad guys :P

'Bush knew about 9/11! he planned the war! He was AWOL! he used 9/11 in his commercials!'
'What? Don't bug me about my past! I didn't marry my wife for the money! I didnt pay those victim-relatives to complain! So what if I was friends with Jane Fonda?'

It's just a big ol' double standard... dems can make fun of republicans all they want, but if a republican says one bad thing about a democrat, suddenly they're the bad guy.

Tisk, Tisk, you should check for sources before you just type this stuff. Kerry never said any of those things. The DNC chair did.. Howard Dean has.. Kerry, nope, never. Look it up. See if you can find once shred of evidence that Kerry ever said any of those things. You won't be able to, because he never did! Nice try though!

Also your claim was that "the conservatives were right because Frankin and Kerry can't stick to this issues they can only personally attack, well at last count the Republican attack machine was still the best greased in the fleet!
Stephistan
05-04-2004, 03:35
I listened for about 5 minutes on the ol' Real One Player. Most of it was ads and there was a one minute piece of unfunny blurb about how 'savagely witty' they are. Yawn.

Which show was that? Not that it matters, truly.

No idea, I think it was an ad for a show. Now they're on about the "wolfawitz doctrine", whatever the hell that is. They sure do like saying "grassroots" a lot, though.

Just a quick education....

Paul Wolfowitz is the ideological father of PNAC.. I guess you didn't know.

*PNAC is short for "The Project for the New American Century"
Sydia
05-04-2004, 03:36
I listened for about 5 minutes on the ol' Real One Player. Most of it was ads and there was a one minute piece of unfunny blurb about how 'savagely witty' they are. Yawn.

Which show was that? Not that it matters, truly.

No idea, I think it was an ad for a show. Now they're on about the "wolfawitz doctrine", whatever the hell that is. They sure do like saying "grassroots" a lot, though.

Just a quick education....

Paul Wolfowitz is the ideological father of PNAC.. I guess you didn't know.

*PNAC is short for "The Project for the New American Century"
No doctrines for me, I'm British!
Aliedel
05-04-2004, 05:42
Actually this station is pretty good I've been listening to it all day
05-04-2004, 05:43
its funny how so-called "capitalist" rightys are so terrified of even the slightest competition on the airwaves
Incertonia
05-04-2004, 10:04
Maybe its a different thing your talking about then what I'm thinking of, as the one I usually hear people talking about is the NPR interview that was of course could have been played on C-Span.

However assuming we're thinking of different things, what exactly *did* happen? Did they talk about issues or was in Franken talking about Polk vs Peabody awards?There were two incidents--the Franken incident was on C-SPAN, and yes, they dealt with issues, as well as the Polk/Peabody award situation--and by the way, outing a person as a liar isn't a personal attack, but whatever.

The NPR interview was with Teri Gross and was a civil interview--I listened to that as well, and you might still be able to find it archived at NPR if you want to hear it for yourself instead of depending on others' accounts. To my ear, it sounded like O'Reilly wanted to cause a scene--the interview was pretty cordial right up to the end and then he had a conniption over a question at the end. It sounded really small and petty of him, but that's my opinion and I'm certain that I'm not unbiased in this matter. I'd suggest checking it out for yourself and making your own mind up.
05-04-2004, 10:09
Wuh?

What's with the radio stations listed on the Air America website? They're in L.A. *and* the Inland Empire? How is that even necessary? I live in the IE and have no problem hearing any L.A. station. I sure hope AARadio has a reason for supporting a superfluous location if they're going to survive financially. I mean, even if you're in the mountains, in a 500-foot deep canyon, you should have no problem hearing L.A. on AM radio without an extra station in San Bernadino or someplace. And the Inland Empire isn't even a liberal area. Far from it, in fact. What's the logic in that? :?:
06-04-2004, 02:38
Wuh?

What's with the radio stations listed on the Air America website? They're in L.A. *and* the Inland Empire? How is that even necessary? I live in the IE and have no problem hearing any L.A. station. I sure hope AARadio has a reason for supporting a superfluous location if they're going to survive financially. I mean, even if you're in the mountains, in a 500-foot deep canyon, you should have no problem hearing L.A. on AM radio without an extra station in San Bernadino or someplace. And the Inland Empire isn't even a liberal area. Far from it, in fact. What's the logic in that? :?:

non-enlightened people need to hear progressive truths the most
Panhandlia
06-04-2004, 03:27
its funny how so-called "capitalist" rightys are so terrified of even the slightest competition on the airwaves

None of the professionals of talk radio is scared of Al Franken or his cronies. In fact, most actually want the liberal radio experiment to succeed, because they know that if (or more to the point, when) it fails, the liberals will blame the dreaded Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, and demand a return of the truly idiotic Fairness Doctrine.

Alas, liberal radio is doomed to failure.
06-04-2004, 04:01
its funny how so-called "capitalist" rightys are so terrified of even the slightest competition on the airwaves

None of the professionals of talk radio is scared of Al Franken or his cronies. In fact, most actually want the liberal radio experiment to succeed, because they know that if (or more to the point, when) it fails, the liberals will blame the dreaded Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, and demand a return of the truly idiotic Fairness Doctrine.

Alas, liberal radio is doomed to failure.

your scared of the truth admit it
Panhandlia
06-04-2004, 04:11
its funny how so-called "capitalist" rightys are so terrified of even the slightest competition on the airwaves

None of the professionals of talk radio is scared of Al Franken or his cronies. In fact, most actually want the liberal radio experiment to succeed, because they know that if (or more to the point, when) it fails, the liberals will blame the dreaded Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, and demand a return of the truly idiotic Fairness Doctrine.

Alas, liberal radio is doomed to failure.

your scared of the truth admit it

The only truth is, Al Franken and his cronies have accumulated, in 4 days, a litany of poor reviews. Nothing to be scared of. Now, I think they might get better and deliver a better product...eventually. But I don't think time is on their side.

Sorry, a daily 3-hour "Stuart Smalley" sketch is simply not funny.
The Black Forrest
06-04-2004, 04:11
The NPR interview was with Teri Gross and was a civil interview--I listened to that as well, and you might still be able to find it archived at NPR if you want to hear it for yourself instead of depending on others' accounts. To my ear, it sounded like O'Reilly wanted to cause a scene--the interview was pretty cordial right up to the end and then he had a conniption over a question at the end. It sounded really small and petty of him, but that's my opinion and I'm certain that I'm not unbiased in this matter. I'd suggest checking it out for yourself and making your own mind up.

I listened to that interview. For all the "Liberal" dirty word play that goes on; she is about the nicest, most polite interviewer around.

It was very petty on his part.

But that is his way. He wants a reaction....
06-04-2004, 04:14
its funny how so-called "capitalist" rightys are so terrified of even the slightest competition on the airwaves

None of the professionals of talk radio is scared of Al Franken or his cronies. In fact, most actually want the liberal radio experiment to succeed, because they know that if (or more to the point, when) it fails, the liberals will blame the dreaded Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, and demand a return of the truly idiotic Fairness Doctrine.

Alas, liberal radio is doomed to failure.

your scared of the truth admit it

The only truth is, Al Franken and his cronies have accumulated, in 4 days, a litany of poor reviews. Nothing to be scared of. Now, I think they might get better and deliver a better product...eventually. But I don't think time is on their side.

Sorry, a daily 3-hour "Stuart Smalley" sketch is simply not funny.

whose Stuart Smalley?
Panhandlia
06-04-2004, 04:15
its funny how so-called "capitalist" rightys are so terrified of even the slightest competition on the airwaves

None of the professionals of talk radio is scared of Al Franken or his cronies. In fact, most actually want the liberal radio experiment to succeed, because they know that if (or more to the point, when) it fails, the liberals will blame the dreaded Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, and demand a return of the truly idiotic Fairness Doctrine.

Alas, liberal radio is doomed to failure.

your scared of the truth admit it

The only truth is, Al Franken and his cronies have accumulated, in 4 days, a litany of poor reviews. Nothing to be scared of. Now, I think they might get better and deliver a better product...eventually. But I don't think time is on their side.

Sorry, a daily 3-hour "Stuart Smalley" sketch is simply not funny.

whose Stuart Smalley?

Thanks for illustrating my often-repeated point about your gross ignorance.
Incertonia
06-04-2004, 04:33
The only truth is, Al Franken and his cronies have accumulated, in 4 days, a litany of poor reviews. Nothing to be scared of. Now, I think they might get better and deliver a better product...eventually. But I don't think time is on their side.

Sorry, a daily 3-hour "Stuart Smalley" sketch is simply not funny.Here's what the "truth" is. Reviews don't mean diddly--to paraphrase another famous saying, "ratings talk and bullshit walks."
06-04-2004, 04:33
It's not like radio is particularly expensive... even if they're moderately successful, it'll be fine.
06-04-2004, 04:47
whose Stuart Smalley?

Thanks for illustrating my often-repeated point about your gross ignorance.

Give him a break. There is no way he is old enough to have seen Franken's work on SNL.
06-04-2004, 05:09
I've been listening to Air America all evening. I haven't heard anything that made me want to turn it off yet. It's sort of refreshing, after all the conservative talk out there.

I've read through this thread, and I can't help but feel that most of the time, I've been reading "he said, she said", playground arguments, really! I appreciate hearing both sides of an issue, or from liberals *and* conservatives.

I find myself more and more wary of conservatives, though. They fight dirty. 8)

My parents were Republican, so when the time came, I registered that way. Then I really started listening, knowing my vote would count (!). I finally washed my hands of that party. I voted. My vote didn't count. :roll: The popular vote doesn't really matter. Oh, well....
Friends of Bill
06-04-2004, 06:21
and by the way, outing a person as a liar isn't a personal attack, but whatever. But Doing it to Kerry the Liar is Right-wing attack squads and the vast right-wing conspiracy and blaa blaa blaa, cry, cry cry.
Incertonia
06-04-2004, 06:25
and by the way, outing a person as a liar isn't a personal attack, but whatever. But Doing it to Kerry the Liar is Right-wing attack squads and the vast right-wing conspiracy and blaa blaa blaa, cry, cry cry.There's also a difference between outing a person as a liar and skewing a person's record to make it say something it doesn't. I would love it if all our political discourse and personal discourse were polite and honest, but it isn't. But I don't cry about it--I just hit back, and I hit back hard. That's what the right is really scared about--the fact that we just might be able to kick their asses.
06-04-2004, 06:28
Wuh?

What's with the radio stations listed on the Air America website? They're in L.A. *and* the Inland Empire? How is that even necessary? I live in the IE and have no problem hearing any L.A. station. I sure hope AARadio has a reason for supporting a superfluous location if they're going to survive financially. I mean, even if you're in the mountains, in a 500-foot deep canyon, you should have no problem hearing L.A. on AM radio without an extra station in San Bernadino or someplace. And the Inland Empire isn't even a liberal area. Far from it, in fact. What's the logic in that? :?:

non-enlightened people need to hear progressive truths the most

If you lived near here, you'd know how pointless it is to have 2 broadcast stations when one is more than enough.. that's what I'm saying. There just isn't any point.
Love Poetry
06-04-2004, 06:38
The O'Franken Factor? Wow, how original. Photographs of conservative talk show hosts usually make them look kind of stupid, but these guys' photos make them look really dumb. ~ Michael.
Bottle
06-04-2004, 06:42
The O'Franken Factor? Wow, how original.

that was the idea, actually. word on the street is that Franken deliberately ripped off the name because he's trying to let O'Reilly sue him. Franken said he figures Fox News should have won the suit against him for his book title, given that he used their catch phrase in a very similar context, but they didn't...so he's giving their boy a free shot. i think it's cute as hell.
Love Poetry
06-04-2004, 06:45
The O'Franken Factor? Wow, how original. that was the idea, actually. word on the street is that Franken deliberately ripped off the name because he's trying to let O'Reilly sue him. Franken said he figures Fox News should have won the suit against him for his book title, given that he used their catch phrase in a very similar context, but they didn't...so he's giving their boy a free shot. i think it's cute as hell.I think Franken should have called his book "Unfair and Imbalanced" ... not because I think he is unfair and imbalanced, which I do think that of him, but he could have worded the title to be the complete opposite of FOX's slogan, to make his point in the title of his book, that he thinks conservatives are unfair and imbalanced. But no, he uses FOX's slogan. Wow, how original. ~ Michael.
Aliedel
06-04-2004, 06:46
The O'Franken Factor? Wow, how original.

that was the idea, actually. word on the street is that Franken deliberately ripped off the name because he's trying to let O'Reilly sue him. Franken said he figures Fox News should have won the suit against him for his book title, given that he used their catch phrase in a very similar context, but they didn't...so he's giving their boy a free shot. i think it's cute as hell.


He has said hes just doing it to get O' Reily mad and he said and I paraphrase "Its protected under Parody Protection even if the person doesn't get it"
Incertonia
06-04-2004, 06:47
Wow, how original. ~ Michael. :idea: It's called satire.
06-04-2004, 06:49
Eh.. 2 reasons I'd never listen to Franken.

#1. His voice irritates the hell out of me, politics or no politics.
#2. I've never heard him argue a liberal position better than an average liberal could.

So yeah, not a fan.
Love Poetry
06-04-2004, 06:52
Wow, how original. ~ Michael. :idea: It's called satire.There has to be better satire than that! Sheesh, I'm conservative, and I can poke fun at conservatives better than some liberals can. ~ Michael.
Bottle
06-04-2004, 06:58
The O'Franken Factor? Wow, how original.

that was the idea, actually. word on the street is that Franken deliberately ripped off the name because he's trying to let O'Reilly sue him. Franken said he figures Fox News should have won the suit against him for his book title, given that he used their catch phrase in a very similar context, but they didn't...so he's giving their boy a free shot. i think it's cute as hell.


He has said hes just doing it to get O' Reily mad and he said and I paraphrase "Its protected under Parody Protection even if the person doesn't get it"

lol, either way it's good for a chuckle. :P
NewXmen
06-04-2004, 07:10
All that is well and good, but what kind of advertisers does this radio network have? Without advertisers... good bye show.