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What's with all the stupidity and hatred?

Ryanania
04-04-2004, 05:50
It seems that all I ever hear on this forum is "America sucks!" "French women braid their armpit hair!" "N00k Irak!!!11!ONE" "You stupid Jew!" "Conservatives eat middle eastern babies with a glass of oil for breakfast!" and "Lefties are a bunch of pussies!"

So, I've come to the conclusion that either all the hatred in the world goes straight to this forum, the average age of the posters here is about 12, or the average IQ of the members of this forum is 60. Or all three.

Does anyone have any other ideas as to why this forum is such a cesspool of hatred and unintelligent life?
Vitania
04-04-2004, 05:54
Hatred is a sign that someone is stupid. Anyone who debates anyone on this forum in regards to political issues and resorts to attacking the person rather than the issue or makes baseless statments shows that they are stupid.
04-04-2004, 06:00
I am SO glad to be quickly moving away from age 12. Everybody uses that age to describe spammy idiots on the NS forums. I'm still embarrassed to be only two years past.

By the way, welcome to the club: people who like to debate logically rather than spitting insults at each other, misquoting the Bible where it doesn't apply anyway, acting like extremists from the other side of the fence represent all while expecting others to see that your moderates comprise the majority of this side, etc. etc...
04-04-2004, 06:01
Dude, what the crap happened to the poll?
04-04-2004, 06:04
It seems that all I ever hear on this forum is "America sucks!" "French women braid their armpit hair!" "N00k Irak!!!11!ONE" "You stupid Jew!" "Conservatives eat middle eastern babies with a glass of oil for breakfast!" and "Lefties are a bunch of pussies!"

So, I've come to the conclusion that either all the hatred in the world goes straight to this forum, the average age of the posters here is about 12, or the average IQ of the members of this forum is 60. Or all three.

Does anyone have any other ideas as to why this forum is such a cesspool of hatred and unintelligent life?

unfortunately this forum reflects the real world an the problems with it..i am far from innocent an do add my own biased posts :(
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 06:05
It seems that all I ever hear on this forum is "America sucks!" "French women braid their armpit hair!" "N00k Irak!!!11!ONE" "You stupid Jew!" "Conservatives eat middle eastern babies with a glass of oil for breakfast!" and "Lefties are a bunch of pussies!"

So, I've come to the conclusion that either all the hatred in the world goes straight to this forum, the average age of the posters here is about 12, or the average IQ of the members of this forum is 60. Or all three.

Does anyone have any other ideas as to why this forum is such a cesspool of hatred and unintelligent life?

unfortunately this forum reflects the real world an the problems with it..i am far from innocent an do add my own biased posts :(Biased is fine. Biased just means that you have opinions, so we are all biased. Stupid and hateful is NOT okay.
04-04-2004, 06:06
We all are biased. It's just some are complete asses about it.
04-04-2004, 06:08
I am SO glad to be quickly moving away from age 12.
Shit. What I wouldn't give to be 12 again.
Democratic Nationality
04-04-2004, 06:08
Hatred is a sign that someone is stupid. Anyone who debates anyone on this forum in regards to political issues and resorts to attacking the person rather than the issue or makes baseless statments shows that they are stupid.

What you describe as "hatred" may well just be the expression of another person's strongly-held opinions. The word "hate", as in "hate speech" etc is an overused term the left uses to censor everything it dissaproves of. A prime example of this is the ADL website (that's the Anti-Defamation league). They use the word "hate" to condemn all that doesn't accord to their peculiar left-wing view of the world (such as their hysterical campaign against Mel Gibson's film). One has to wonder who the really intolerant are.
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 06:09
Hatred is a sign that someone is stupid. Anyone who debates anyone on this forum in regards to political issues and resorts to attacking the person rather than the issue or makes baseless statments shows that they are stupid.

What you describe as "hatred" may well just be the expression of another person's strongly-held opinions. The word "hate", as in "hate speech" etc is an overused term the left uses to censor everything it dissaproves of. A prime example of this is the ADL website (that's the Anti-Defamation league). They use the word "hate" to condemn all that doesn't accord to their peculiar left-wing view of the world (such as their hysterical campaign against Mel Gibson's film). One has to wonder who the really intolerant are.I'm not liberal by any means.
666 The Heritic State
04-04-2004, 06:10
I'm not hateful, I just don't care.
04-04-2004, 06:17
We all are biased. It's just some are complete asses about it.

I agree with you completely on this statement!!

:D Though I might add stupid people are quite amusing,and they make the more intelligent post more. And therefore I learn more and become less stupid.
NSZA
04-04-2004, 06:19
i am gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just kidden you wierdos now get off my leg
Transnapastain
04-04-2004, 06:21
im amazed no one has picked option 6 yet
Filamai
04-04-2004, 06:23
Hatred is a sign that someone is stupid. Anyone who debates anyone on this forum in regards to political issues and resorts to attacking the person rather than the issue or makes baseless statments shows that they are stupid.

What you describe as "hatred" may well just be the expression of another person's strongly-held opinions. The word "hate", as in "hate speech" etc is an overused term the left uses to censor everything it dissaproves of. A prime example of this is the ADL website (that's the Anti-Defamation league). They use the word "hate" to condemn all that doesn't accord to their peculiar left-wing view of the world (such as their hysterical campaign against Mel Gibson's film). One has to wonder who the really intolerant are.

I hope you voted the last option. You personify it.
Hakartopia
04-04-2004, 06:24
Hatred is a sign that someone is stupid. Anyone who debates anyone on this forum in regards to political issues and resorts to attacking the person rather than the issue or makes baseless statments shows that they are stupid.

What you describe as "hatred" may well just be the expression of another person's strongly-held opinions. The word "hate", as in "hate speech" etc is an overused term the left uses to censor everything it dissaproves of. A prime example of this is the ADL website (that's the Anti-Defamation league). They use the word "hate" to condemn all that doesn't accord to their peculiar left-wing view of the world (such as their hysterical campaign against Mel Gibson's film). One has to wonder who the really intolerant are.

And off course, only the left does this. The right never does, they're the pinacle of virtue and honesty. :roll:
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 06:26
Here it comes...
Collaboration
04-04-2004, 06:28
Yet somebody earlier today was complaining that NS was full of pinko leftists and that the right wing contingent was unrepresentatively small.
Democratic Nationality
04-04-2004, 06:28
I hope you voted the last option. You personify it.

What you said just proved my point entirely.
Incertonia
04-04-2004, 06:29
This place is tame--you ought to check out the Freeper forum or its bastard cousin at Democratic Underground. I tihnk the Freepers are worse because they advocate things like anal rape and castration for anyone who dares disagree with them, but both groups are tiresome and far more idiotic than 99% of the stuff that goes on here.
Hakartopia
04-04-2004, 06:29
Yet somebody earlier today was complaining that NS was full of pinko leftists and that the right wing contingent was unrepresentatively small.

Maybe a case of "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."? In this case leading to people saying "The other side has more people/is more vocal/are favoured by the moderators!"?
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 06:32
This place is tame--you ought to check out the Freeper forum or its bastard cousin at Democratic Underground. I tihnk the Freepers are worse because they advocate things like anal rape and castration for anyone who dares disagree with them, but both groups are tiresome and far more idiotic than 99% of the stuff that goes on here.What the heck is freeper?
Incertonia
04-04-2004, 06:34
What the heck is freeper? It's from the Free Republic, a magazine that's slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. The people who inhabit their online forum are nicknamed Freepers, and I wasn't exaggerating in my earlier description--they're about as bad as the people on Stormfront.
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 06:46
What the heck is freeper? It's from the Free Republic, a magazine that's slightly to the right of Genghis Khan. The people who inhabit their online forum are nicknamed Freepers, and I wasn't exaggerating in my earlier description--they're about as bad as the people on Stormfront.What's their angle?
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2004, 06:49
What you describe as "hatred" may well just be the expression of another person's strongly-held opinions. The word "hate", as in "hate speech" etc is an overused term the left uses to censor everything it dissaproves of. A prime example of this is the ADL website (that's the Anti-Defamation league). They use the word "hate" to condemn all that doesn't accord to their peculiar left-wing view of the world (such as their hysterical campaign against Mel Gibson's film). One has to wonder who the really intolerant are.
I have witnessed intolerance by all parties here. To suggest that "hate" is a "leftist" tool is perhaps a tad judgemental on your part?

Having said that, I do notice a lot of anger, hate, and intolerance on this board. Having an opinion on a topic is okay, and even better it has some basis in fact. However, it is also okay for people to agree to disagree.

Far more is gained by both parties when they do in fact engage in civil discussions.

Then again, there are people who are obviously not well, and if anyone engages in discussion with them, they should be prepared to suffer the invective if there is a disagreement.
The Frostlings
04-04-2004, 06:50
not to say this whole post shouldnt be wiped clean by mods :roll:
04-04-2004, 06:52
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 06:54
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!Yes, we in the Isle of Believers wholeheartedly agree with you, Raysia.
Collaboration
04-04-2004, 06:56
I hope you voted the last option. You personify it.

What you said just proved my point entirely.

I don't think the ADL has seemed very tolerant lately.

And I saw an interview on TV with a man who was opening a "Museum of Tolerance" in NYC that week; he said he strongly opposed gay marriage.
Guess the tolerance was not universal.
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2004, 07:02
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!
I agree with you 100% but unfortunately it appears that it is a utopian goal only.

When one has hate in their heart, they are incapable of loving others fully.
Resentments, becomes anger, becomes hate, as surely as night follows day :cry:
Ryanania
04-04-2004, 07:03
[quote=Raysia]Resentments, becomes anger, becomes hate, as surely as night follows day :cry:Thank you, Yoda.
04-04-2004, 07:11
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!
I agree with you 100% but unfortunately it appears that it is a utopian goal only.

When one has hate in their heart, they are incapable of loving others fully.
Resentments, becomes anger, becomes hate, as surely as night follows day :cry:Umm... it's a religious ideal for a reason... because you need God's help and guidance to keep your heart free of hatred.
04-04-2004, 07:12
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!Yes, we in the Isle of Believers wholeheartedly agree with you, Raysia.Wow... that's a change :)

My region died... let me know when I am welcome back into your region ^_^
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2004, 07:18
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!
I agree with you 100% but unfortunately it appears that it is a utopian goal only.

When one has hate in their heart, they are incapable of loving others fully.
Resentments, becomes anger, becomes hate, as surely as night follows day :cry:Umm... it's a religious ideal for a reason... because you need God's help and guidance to keep your heart free of hatred.
Well I understand that fully. I say it is utopian for the simple fact that it cannot be achieved because some people just LOVE to HATE.

I can honestly say that I hate no one. Now mind you, there are some people that I am not extremely fond of.

Their is a God sense in everyone. It is just difficult locating it somedays :shock:
04-04-2004, 07:26
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!
I agree with you 100% but unfortunately it appears that it is a utopian goal only.

When one has hate in their heart, they are incapable of loving others fully.
Resentments, becomes anger, becomes hate, as surely as night follows day :cry:Umm... it's a religious ideal for a reason... because you need God's help and guidance to keep your heart free of hatred.
Well I understand that fully. I say it is utopian for the simple fact that it cannot be achieved because some people just LOVE to HATE.

I can honestly say that I hate no one. Now mind you, there are some people that I am not extremely fond of.

Their is a God sense in everyone. It is just difficult locating it somedays :shock:My religion refers to the 'little bit of god in everyone' as "The Light of Christ." It's given to all people, even the atheists. But it is very subtle in the faithless.
04-04-2004, 07:27
I am SO glad to be quickly moving away from age 12.
Shit. What I wouldn't give to be 12 again.

Really? My 12 was not so happy; generally I look back on previous ages longingly, but 12 is one year I'm glad to let go.
04-04-2004, 07:28
im amazed no one has picked option 6 yet

The polls screw stuff up that way - if you vote for option 6 it will count it toward option 5. Only 1, 3, and 5 are going to get any votes.
04-04-2004, 07:33
Hatred is a sign that someone is stupid. Anyone who debates anyone on this forum in regards to political issues and resorts to attacking the person rather than the issue or makes baseless statments shows that they are stupid.

What you describe as "hatred" may well just be the expression of another person's strongly-held opinions. The word "hate", as in "hate speech" etc is an overused term the left uses to censor everything it dissaproves of. A prime example of this is the ADL website (that's the Anti-Defamation league). They use the word "hate" to condemn all that doesn't accord to their peculiar left-wing view of the world (such as their hysterical campaign against Mel Gibson's film). One has to wonder who the really intolerant are.

And off course, only the left does this. The right never does, they're the pinacle of virtue and honesty. :roll:

This is what I mean... so many people a) villify the other side while ignoring the exact same behavior in their own camp, and b) will generalize the other side by extremists while becoming indignant about how their side is mostly moderate and reasonable. Nearly everyone I see here, right or left, conservative or liberal, Democrat or Republican, falls into one huge crevasse of a category: HYPOCRITE.
04-04-2004, 07:36
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!

I suppose, then, that you are one of those people who believes it is a choice rather than a preset condition to be homosexual?
04-04-2004, 07:47
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!

I suppose, then, that you are one of those people who believes it is a choice rather than a preset condition to be homosexual?I believe it is very possible for someone to be born with homosexual tendancies. But to say there is no element of choice involved, is compeltely untrue. Homosexuality is a behavior, not a mindset.
Cromotar
05-04-2004, 13:29
Hatred IS stupid.

No one should hate ANYONE. You can hate someone's actions and opinions all you want, but come on, love one another!

I suppose, then, that you are one of those people who believes it is a choice rather than a preset condition to be homosexual?I believe it is very possible for someone to be born with homosexual tendancies. But to say there is no element of choice involved, is compeltely untrue. Homosexuality is a behavior, not a mindset.

No, what you just said is completely untrue. I have been completely gay my entire life, without making any choices. It's the way I'm wired, and it can't be changed. Of course, whether to live it out or not is a choice, but if I had forced myself to live a hetero lifestyle I would have been living a lie, and an unhappy one at that.
HotRodia
05-04-2004, 14:23
This is what I mean... so many people a) villify the other side while ignoring the exact same behavior in their own camp, and b) will generalize the other side by extremists while becoming indignant about how their side is mostly moderate and reasonable. Nearly everyone I see here, right or left, conservative or liberal, Democrat or Republican, falls into one huge crevasse of a category: HYPOCRITE.

I'm just glad to be a Centrist hypocrite. :wink: