NationStates Jolt Archive


/// Madrid Question ///

Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 02:45
Interior Minister Angel Acebes said it was still too soon to draw any conclusions about who planted the unexploded device.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3596455.stm



Why on earth would the Muslim Activists strike Spain again...that would send the wrong message...

If I was Bin Laden..I would Strike Italy or Asutralia....does not make sense to strike Spain now....

after all these people are smart enough to plan the 911...what am i missing?
04-04-2004, 02:55
yeah i gotta agree with u there, since there are a whole bunch of muslims in Spain, AL Quada wouldnt want to drive away people who might help them!
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 03:25
BTW I meant Australia...I type too fast...
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 04:07
yeah i gotta agree with u there, since there are a whole bunch of muslims in Spain, AL Quada wouldnt want to drive away people who might help them!
yes there is a lot of muslims in Spain...and i think there is some in France and UK
04-04-2004, 04:30
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Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 04:35
THIS PLACE SUCKS!
Make your Vote count !!!
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CanuckHeaven
04-04-2004, 04:46
Interior Minister Angel Acebes said it was still too soon to draw any conclusions about who planted the unexploded device.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3596455.stm



Why on earth would the Muslim Activists strike Spain again...that would send the wrong message...

If I was Bin Laden..I would Strike Italy or Asutralia....does not make sense to strike Spain now....

after all these people are smart enough to plan the 911...what am i missing?
How about the element of surprise? No one would expect two in a row and security relaxes?

It is stated that the explosives and detonator match the previous bomb.

How about 3 in a row?:

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 5:58 p.m. ET April 03, 2004

MADRID, Spain - Three suspects in the Madrid railway bombings blew themselves up Saturday in a building while surrounded by police, killing one special forces agent and wounding 11 police officers, the interior minister said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4651993/

Also this interesting tidbit from the same article:

El Pais newspaper reported that Spain is the main al-Qaida base in Europe and said police believed al-Qaida could strike again here.
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 04:48
They want to avenge the Reconquista. :(
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 04:54
It is stated that the explosives and detonator match the previous bomb.

It says only the Explosives...not the detonator...unless you have another source...
"But in both cases, the detonators appeared to be devices commonly found in the mining industry, he told reporters."
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 04:58
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/04/03/spain.bombings/index.html
These are two separate terrorist actions, however it highlights the point that even after the train bombings they're still fighting.
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2004, 05:01
It is stated that the explosives and detonator match the previous bomb.

It says only the Explosives...not the detonator...unless you have another source...
"But in both cases, the detonators appeared to be devices commonly found in the mining industry, he told reporters."
I just added this this to my article:

Also this interesting tidbit from the same article:

El Pais newspaper reported that Spain is the main al-Qaida base in Europe and said police believed al-Qaida could strike again here.

I found this interesting too:

After the Madrid bombings, the Homeland Security Department announced a series of security initiatives, but with no major new funding plans.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4652851
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 05:03
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/04/03/spain.bombings/index.html
These are two separate terrorist actions, however it highlights the point that even after the train bombings they're still fighting.
What do you mean 2 separate terrorist actions?
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 05:05
My link was to a story about a few terrorists getting in a gunfight with police and chanting Arabic while they blew themselves up, the originally link from this thread was about another foiled bomb attempt.
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 05:12
My link was to a story about a few terrorists getting in a gunfight with police and chanting Arabic while they blew themselves up, the originally link from this thread was about another foiled bomb attempt.
I think your link is about The Arabs appartement gettin surrounded by Spanish police....they dont want to surrender....they rather die....so they sing and set da BOMB...
Tuesday Heights
04-04-2004, 05:12
Perhaps, it was left there from last time.

http://www.skytowerpoet.net/pics/100_15.gif

The Deadlines of Tuesday Heights (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=skytowerpoet)
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 05:13
Perhaps, it was left there from last time.
Perhaps...
Collaboration
04-04-2004, 07:06
If these are Moroccans, the only country they really hate (other than Mali) is Spain.
CanuckHeaven
04-04-2004, 07:37
If these are Moroccans, the only country they really hate (other than Mali) is Spain.
Suspicion over the bombings has focused on an alleged Morocco-based terrorist cell believed to have links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network and on al-Qaida itself.
Could it be that they hate the US by default?
Revolutionsz
04-04-2004, 17:54
If these are Moroccans, the only country they really hate (other than Mali) is Spain.
Suspicion over the bombings has focused on an alleged Morocco-based terrorist cell believed to have links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network and on al-Qaida itself.
Could it be that they hate the US by default?
LaReconquista happened Centuries Ago...they feel more about Israel...
Collaboration
04-04-2004, 18:34
If these are Moroccans, the only country they really hate (other than Mali) is Spain.
Suspicion over the bombings has focused on an alleged Morocco-based terrorist cell believed to have links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network and on al-Qaida itself.
Could it be that they hate the US by default?
LaReconquista happened Centuries Ago...they feel more about Israel...

The hatreds do go a long way back between Spain and Morocco, but there are much more recent events that build on that bitter foundation.
Here's one: http://www.indexonline.org/indexindex/20020724_morocco.shtml

AP report July 17, 2002: "Spain accuses Morocco of failing to crack down on smuggling rings that ferry tens of thousands of illegal immigrants every year across the Strait of Gibraltar."

September 2002 AP: "But Morocco was determined to bring up the question of sovereignty of Spain's North African territories, which include the enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla, as well as a number of islands, including Perejil.

Morocco regards them as occupied territories and wants them back.

Spain says sovereignty of the territories is not up for discussion.

The BBC correspondent in Rabat says that relations now appear to have sunk to rock bottom."

Ceuta and Melilla are within sight of the Moroccan coast but have long-established Spanish settlements. They are among five islands claimed by both countries.
Kwangistar
04-04-2004, 18:36
If these are Moroccans, the only country they really hate (other than Mali) is Spain.
Suspicion over the bombings has focused on an alleged Morocco-based terrorist cell believed to have links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network and on al-Qaida itself.
Could it be that they hate the US by default?
LaReconquista happened Centuries Ago...they feel more about Israel...

They can't get over the crusades, let alone the Reconquista.