NationStates Jolt Archive


Will Affirmative Action change?

Holbrookia
02-04-2004, 16:28
It is predicted that soon "whites" will be the minority in the United States. Will AA change when it's supposed to? I wonder sometimes who decided who gets the benefits of AA: those who were oppressed, or minorities? I am of Irish descent. The Irish were victims of vicious racism. Early Irish Americans were thought to be good only for manual labor (sounds familiar.) However, after our oppression ended (I don't hold this generation responsable for what happened to my ancestors) we received none of the benefits of AA just because of our skin color. Anyone of a european bloodline, regardless of race, is rolled into one category. I don't consider myself Irish. For five generations, my family has been American, born and raised. I just don't see why I should be barred from a job for things I didn't do. I have never been a racist person or "owned" a slave. My parents, grandparents and great-grandparents didn't either. In fact, nobody in my family tree did. So why do I have to pay?
02-04-2004, 16:49
Nazi's and such go on about keeping the "white race" pure. But the White race as percieved today is probably the must impure of them all. We got populaitons from all over europe interbreeding, and then europeans out in the former colonies interbreeding with the local populations making Filthy, Naughty halfbreeds.

The U.S is supposed to be a melting pot so as long as those other peoples stick with the principles of American government it shouldnt matter who outnumbers who.

The idea of Affirmative action is the force it onto ppl and eventually its supposed to stick. Now that its been legislated and everyones afraid of gettin sued I think its well on its way. I reckon its a stopgap measure.
But I can see it gettin nasty. Thinking about it I finally get why some ppl are opposed to it. If it does stick then when "whites" are a minority they will be oppressed when the transition happens because the new coalition majority doesnt see a reason to stick with it.

But hey, That far into the future and with gloabalisation Whos to say that everyone wont share at least one culture? When sailors got stranded on a foreign island they settles down and interbred with the natives. Maybe those concerned about AA should do the same to hedge their bets. :D
BLARGistania
02-04-2004, 16:56
I think affirmative action should be based on need, if required at all. Right now, AA is based off race, this, is an unfair system. I have heard plenty of people complain about how blacks and latinos are oppressed and deserve this, fine, I don't care. But you have to make sure that AA is based off the need, not the race. There are plenty of poor white people who are just as deserving, but they are more unlikely to get it because of the fact that they are white.

Now, if the system was changed to a system of need, anyone, regardless of race, would recieve the aid that is entitled to them. That would be the fulfillment of AA.

But, AA might also be considered unneeded. Anyone who truly wants an education can pursue one and gain plenty of scholorship money. A lot of people look to affirmative action for free hand-outs, taking advantage of how the system is set up. If you truly want to be educated, you will be able to attain it, no matter the financial class.
02-04-2004, 17:05
Never underestimate the effect of the environment one grows up in.
It practically makes you. I think what you suggested is a very good idea.
02-04-2004, 17:21
Never underestimate the effect of the environment one grows up in.
It practically makes you. I think what you suggested is a very good idea.
Chinguacousy
02-04-2004, 17:42
Yo Yo Yo! Mon ....Look it like Dis! I'm Black Mon...You not. I get your job cause YOU let it happen!. I'm a new commer to your country, so now YOU get to go on welfare, and I get your job!
Were you entitled to it ? Maybe so, but YOU let it happen by lax Immigration, and stupidity . But what do I know I'm just a dumb Nigga!
Maybe when you are busy standing in the unemployment line, I 'll be home doing YOUR WIFE!!. You know white woman say about the size of a Black Man.
Holbrookia
02-04-2004, 18:03
Yo Yo Yo! Mon ....Look it like Dis! I'm Black Mon...You not. I get your job cause YOU let it happen!. I'm a new commer to your country, so now YOU get to go on welfare, and I get your job!
Were you entitled to it ? Maybe so, but YOU let it happen by lax Immigration, and stupidity . But what do I know I'm just a dumb Nigga!
Maybe when you are busy standing in the unemployment line, I 'll be home doing YOUR WIFE!!. You know white woman say about the size of a Black Man.
"Lax immigration and stupidity?" What the hell is wrong with you?

I didn't try to insult anyone in my thread. Apparently you have some issues, as this is the most biased thing I have ever read.

It's a joke, right? From this post, I can deduce that you are either a member of the dumb phucks klan trying to poke fun at minorities, or you are very immature and VERY rude.

By the way, I'm not even married.
02-04-2004, 18:26
Its always kinda embarassing when someone asks "Is this a joke" after launching into a Diatribe just to hedge thier bets when it clearly is.
Wutasumia
03-04-2004, 02:43
To: Chinguacousy

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BTW I think AA is retarded. It's the same as saying...
Hmmm... This white person got a 4.0 and has 400,000 extra classes. Hey! This (Insert ethnic group here) kid has a 2.3 and no extra classes, but he is (Insert same ethnic group here)
Kwangistar
03-04-2004, 02:49
By the time Whites are the minorities Hispanics will most likely be integrated more fully and they'll be treated more like Italians, Irish, Germans, Anglo-Saxons, ect.