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Stupid Euro!

Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 07:47
This is probably the dorkiest request to ever grace the General forum, but does anyone know any way I can get old currency from any of the nations that converted to the Euro? I fancy myself a coin collector, and I've been finding it impossibly hard to get any old bills or coins from any of the countries that now use the Euro. It's like they burn the old money or something. Other than buying $400 and $500 collector's edition sets of the coins from the Bank of England, I can't seem to find anywhere that has old European currencies. I've tried banks in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands, and none of them were of any help. Please, if anyone has any good ideas, please let me know.
Alcona and Hubris
01-04-2004, 07:49
Coin collectors...try the U.S. A lot of us Yanks hauled over money and just kept it...
Kanteletar
01-04-2004, 07:50
You might try a local collectables shop.

As for burning the old money, that's pretty much exactly what they do.

I've got a few DMs kicking around but you can't have them, nyaa :P
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 07:55
Coin collectors...try the U.S. A lot of us Yanks hauled over money and just kept it...

I tried a lot of coin collectors here. Mostly, they all have rare and valuable coins, like coins from the Third Reich, or just old coins. And they tend to charge a whole hell of a lot of money for them. I have no real interest in the scarcity of the coins. I just am trying to complete a collection of money from every nation in the world. I try to have every major denomination of coin and every bill up to the denomination of 10 (or the equivalent).
Freedorandack
01-04-2004, 07:57
theres always flee markets. they always have sum odd stuff
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 07:59
Speaking of which, does England have a one or two pound bill? I can't seem to find any. There's got to be some Brits around that can help me out.
Alcona and Hubris
01-04-2004, 08:02
Coin collectors...try the U.S. A lot of us Yanks hauled over money and just kept it...

I tried a lot of coin collectors here. Mostly, they all have rare and valuable coins, like coins from the Third Reich, or just old coins. And they tend to charge a whole hell of a lot of money for them. I have no real interest in the scarcity of the coins. I just am trying to complete a collection of money from every nation in the world. I try to have every major denomination of coin and every bill up to the denomination of 10 (or the equivalent).

Understood...try the flea markets...although it seems everyone has nazi coins...
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:03
Coin collectors...try the U.S. A lot of us Yanks hauled over money and just kept it...

I tried a lot of coin collectors here. Mostly, they all have rare and valuable coins, like coins from the Third Reich, or just old coins. And they tend to charge a whole hell of a lot of money for them. I have no real interest in the scarcity of the coins. I just am trying to complete a collection of money from every nation in the world. I try to have every major denomination of coin and every bill up to the denomination of 10 (or the equivalent).

Understood...try the flea markets...although it seems everyone has nazi coins...

I know, it's ridiculous. It makes me wonder how much money the Third Reich minted.
Kirtondom
01-04-2004, 08:16
The UK has the following notes £5, £10, £20, £50 I think there are other higher denomonations in existance but they are rare and not used by Joe public. We have the following coins 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p, 50p, £1, £2.
We used to have £1 notes but they went the journey some time ago.
One thing I can't understand about US notes is they are all the same size and colour. In the Uk they are different sizes and colours as this help blind and partialy sighted people. How do they manage over there?
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:20
The UK has the following notes £5, £10, £20, £50 I think there are other higher denomonations in existance but they are rare and not used by Joe public. We have the following coins 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p, 50p, £1, £2.
We used to have £1 notes but they went the journey some time ago.
One thing I can't understand about US notes is they are all the same size and colour. In the Uk they are different sizes and colours as this help blind and partialy sighted people. How do they manage over there?

Aw, dang, I'm missing the 50p piece.

As for American money, the numbers are huge. Much larger than the numbers on the British notes. And the number is repeated so many times, it'd be impossible to confuse them.
Alcona and Hubris
01-04-2004, 08:21
Most blind people have 'money readers' that read the small plastic strip inbedded in our cash. I forget why we made all the bills the same size, but likely extends from the time periods when denominations would vary by source...say the Bank of Augusta would issue a bill at one size and the Bank of New York another. Then the U.S. government began issuing notes sometime in the mid 19th century...
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:24
Most blind people have 'money readers' that read the small plastic strip inbedded in our cash. I forget why we made all the bills the same size, but likely extends from the time periods when denominations would vary by source...say the Bank of Augusta would issue a bill at one size and the Bank of New York another. Then the U.S. government began issuing notes sometime in the mid 19th century...

Yeah, that's right. It was all part of the attempts by the federal government to normalize the minting of money. Back when each state would mint their own money, there were huge conflicts as to the value of one state's money in another state. So the feds took over all minting and starting minting a regular national currency. I imagine that that's where the idea of making all the bills uniform comes from.
Kirtondom
01-04-2004, 08:25
So US paper money is all the same size and only uses green ink. This must make it easier to forge? Do you have a silver thread through your money.
Forgive my ignorance I have only ever been to Canada and the only paper money I have had was an old not my Grandad had that was black with some orange on it. So this was either very old or not as I remember a US note.
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:30
So US paper money is all the same size and only uses green ink. This must make it easier to forge? Do you have a silver thread through your money.
Forgive my ignorance I have only ever been to Canada and the only paper money I have had was an old not my Grandad had that was black with some orange on it. So this was either very old or not as I remember a US note.

Yeah, US paper money is all the same size and until just very recently, used all black and green ink. There was rampant counterfeiting of the $20, so the government made and remade the $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 with new techniques to try to stop counterfeiting. They included watermarks, silver threads, complex artwork, etc. Recently, they unveiled a new $20 with orange, yellow, and blue in it, which is supposed to help stop counterfeiting.
Kirtondom
01-04-2004, 08:39
Stange that is took the US Gov so long to consider using mutliple colours. Looking at out £10 note it is orange and brown (main colours) with yellow green and red in it. It also sports a natty silver piece that has a hologram in it and is printed over. oh and the serial number is in blue.
http://www.askcab.co.uk/money_site/mtenner.asp
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:44
Stange that is took the US Gov so long to consider using mutliple colours. Looking at out £10 note it is orange and brown (main colours) with yellow green and red in it. It also sports a natty silver piece that has a hologram in it and is printed over. oh and the serial number is in blue.
http://www.askcab.co.uk/money_site/mtenner.asp

Heh, yeah, I know, I have one right in front of me.

The cool thing about the new $20 is that it sports that nifty chromatic ink. One of the "20"s on the bill is printed in metallic green ink, and when you hold the bill at an angle, it changes to a copper color.
Kirtondom
01-04-2004, 08:49
Stange that is took the US Gov so long to consider using mutliple colours. Looking at out £10 note it is orange and brown (main colours) with yellow green and red in it. It also sports a natty silver piece that has a hologram in it and is printed over. oh and the serial number is in blue.
http://www.askcab.co.uk/money_site/mtenner.asp

Heh, yeah, I know, I have one right in front of me.

The cool thing about the new $20 is that it sports that nifty chromatic ink. One of the "20"s on the bill is printed in metallic green ink, and when you hold the bill at an angle, it changes to a copper color.
Hmm sounds cool.
Now that tenner you have in front of you..... :wink:
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:50
Stange that is took the US Gov so long to consider using mutliple colours. Looking at out £10 note it is orange and brown (main colours) with yellow green and red in it. It also sports a natty silver piece that has a hologram in it and is printed over. oh and the serial number is in blue.
http://www.askcab.co.uk/money_site/mtenner.asp

Heh, yeah, I know, I have one right in front of me.

The cool thing about the new $20 is that it sports that nifty chromatic ink. One of the "20"s on the bill is printed in metallic green ink, and when you hold the bill at an angle, it changes to a copper color.
Hmm sounds cool.
Now that tenner you have in front of you..... :wink:

Yes?
Kirtondom
01-04-2004, 08:53
Must be hard for you to have money from such an oppressive nation as the UK in your possession, I’m more than willing to shoulder that burden for you. And as the $20 bill sound so interesting and sounds like you have to touch it to appreciate the package as a whole….
:lol: :wink:
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 08:59
Must be hard for you to have money from such an oppressive nation as the UK in your possession, I’m more than willing to shoulder that burden for you. And as the $20 bill sound so interesting and sounds like you have to touch it to appreciate the package as a whole….
:lol: :wink:

Well, since I'm an American, my survival depends on having the money of an oppressive nation (if you believe some people in these forums), I think I'm all set with my $20, and since the 10 pound bill is the only one of its kind that I have, I'm loathe to get rid of it.
Kirtondom
01-04-2004, 09:04
Must be hard for you to have money from such an oppressive nation as the UK in your possession, I’m more than willing to shoulder that burden for you. And as the $20 bill sound so interesting and sounds like you have to touch it to appreciate the package as a whole….
:lol: :wink:

Well, since I'm an American, my survival depends on having the money of an oppressive nation (if you believe some people in these forums), I think I'm all set with my $20, and since the 10 pound bill is the only one of its kind that I have, I'm loathe to get rid of it.
Ah well, worth a try.
Good luck with the collecting.
Do you have any bank of toy town,sorry I mean bank of Scotland notes?
Some of those are interesting, only problem is not all english shops will take them, so when you live on the borders it can get a bit awkward when you have a wallet full of them! (when I say full, I don't mean in the literal sense).
Bodies Without Organs
01-04-2004, 09:07
The UK has the following notes £5, £10, £20, £50 I think there are other higher denomonations in existance but they are rare and not used by Joe public. We have the following coins 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p, 50p, £1, £2.
We used to have £1 notes but they went the journey some time ago.


I believe that the Isle Of Man still produces £1 notes, they had a plastic coating over them to make them last longer, and the Royal Bank Of Scotland is still producing £1 notes.

Meanwhile, in Northern Ireland we have a multitude of different kinds of note - they are all British money, but hardly anyone outside Northern RIeland recognises them as such*.


*Actually it's somewhat more complex than that, but this isn't the place: for furthre info go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_banknotes
01-04-2004, 09:09
This is probably the dorkiest request to ever grace the General forum, but does anyone know any way I can get old currency from any of the nations that converted to the Euro? I fancy myself a coin collector, and I've been finding it impossibly hard to get any old bills or coins from any of the countries that now use the Euro. It's like they burn the old money or something. Other than buying $400 and $500 collector's edition sets of the coins from the Bank of England, I can't seem to find anywhere that has old European currencies. I've tried banks in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands, and none of them were of any help. Please, if anyone has any good ideas, please let me know.

I collect foreign coins because I like the artwork on them. For me, they are very easy to find... once a month I go to WalMart and ask their cash office to trade out whatever they've got. Since they don't do anything with the coins, they give them to me. No help, I know. Until now, I hadn't thought about the european ones being anything other than neat to look at, lol.

Maybe you could go find the older folk around town who might have penny jars they didn't manage to get exchanged? You could trade them usable cash if you find any. I'd say those least able to get around would be most likely to have some, since coin is heavy.
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 09:12
This is probably the dorkiest request to ever grace the General forum, but does anyone know any way I can get old currency from any of the nations that converted to the Euro? I fancy myself a coin collector, and I've been finding it impossibly hard to get any old bills or coins from any of the countries that now use the Euro. It's like they burn the old money or something. Other than buying $400 and $500 collector's edition sets of the coins from the Bank of England, I can't seem to find anywhere that has old European currencies. I've tried banks in Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and the Netherlands, and none of them were of any help. Please, if anyone has any good ideas, please let me know.

I collect foreign coins because I like the artwork on them. For me, they are very easy to find... once a month I go to WalMart and ask their cash office to trade out whatever they've got. Since they don't do anything with the coins, they give them to me. No help, I know. Until now, I hadn't thought about the european ones being anything other than neat to look at, lol.

Maybe you could go find the older folk around town who might have penny jars they didn't manage to get exchanged? You could trade them usable cash if you find any. I'd say those least able to get around would be most likely to have some, since coin is heavy.

Hmm, that's a pretty good idea. I might try that out. But I imagine you probably don't get alot of foriegn bills, right? Because those are what I'm really searching for, more so than the coins.
Alcona and Hubris
01-04-2004, 09:12
Yes, the United States has had a real problem with counterfitting. However, until recently United States focused on enforcement rather than trying to compete with the forgers. Specifically the Secret Service is supposed to deal with any and all counterfit bills (yes the same people who protect the president.)

Also, U.S. money isn't paper...it's fabric...a fairly rare kind...

Third, the odd form of money might have been a U.S. silver certificate which were issued in the 19(20s?). I know that there have been a few special notes that have not been black and green.

(Such as the $100,000...the only one I ever saw was in the Treasury...)
Bodies Without Organs
01-04-2004, 09:17
Do you have any bank of toy town,sorry I mean bank of Scotland notes?
Some of those are interesting, only problem is not all english shops will take them, so when you live on the borders it can get a bit awkward when you have a wallet full of them! (when I say full, I don't mean in the literal sense).

If you think Scottish notes are hard to spend in England you should try using Northern Irish ones.
Sdaeriji
01-04-2004, 09:18
Yes, the United States has had a real problem with counterfitting. However, until recently United States focused on enforcement rather than trying to compete with the forgers. Specifically the Secret Service is supposed to deal with any and all counterfit bills (yes the same people who protect the president.)

Also, U.S. money isn't paper...it's fabric...a fairly rare kind...

Third, the odd form of money might have been a U.S. silver certificate which were issued in the 19(20s?). I know that there have been a few special notes that have not been black and green.

(Such as the $100,000...the only one I ever saw was in the Treasury...)

If I recall correctly (and I might not), US money is made from a cotton-paper blend that is extremely difficult to mimic.
Conceptualists
01-04-2004, 09:19
Do you have any bank of toy town,sorry I mean bank of Scotland notes?
Some of those are interesting, only problem is not all english shops will take them, so when you live on the borders it can get a bit awkward when you have a wallet full of them! (when I say full, I don't mean in the literal sense).

If you think Scottish notes are hard to spend in England you should try using Northern Irish ones.

I generally have no prblem spending them in Manchester, although you have to point out that it says on the note it is sterling
Kanteletar
01-04-2004, 09:19
Yes, the United States has had a real problem with counterfitting. However, until recently United States focused on enforcement rather than trying to compete with the forgers. Specifically the Secret Service is supposed to deal with any and all counterfit bills (yes the same people who protect the president.)

Also, U.S. money isn't paper...it's fabric...a fairly rare kind...

Third, the odd form of money might have been a U.S. silver certificate which were issued in the 19(20s?). I know that there have been a few special notes that have not been black and green.

(Such as the $100,000...the only one I ever saw was in the Treasury...)

I was under the impression that the paper money is printed on is a paper/cotton blend.
Conceptualists
01-04-2004, 09:21
Yes, the United States has had a real problem with counterfitting. However, until recently United States focused on enforcement rather than trying to compete with the forgers. Specifically the Secret Service is supposed to deal with any and all counterfit bills (yes the same people who protect the president.)

Also, U.S. money isn't paper...it's fabric...a fairly rare kind...

Third, the odd form of money might have been a U.S. silver certificate which were issued in the 19(20s?). I know that there have been a few special notes that have not been black and green.

(Such as the $100,000...the only one I ever saw was in the Treasury...)



I was under the impression that the paper money is printed on is a paper/cotton blend.Is this why I've occasionally refered to as flax?
Alcona and Hubris
01-04-2004, 09:32
I guess my comment was not specific enough. It is based on fabric fibers, but in a paper making process versus being weaved. So no 'wood' fiber...but the material is made by dumping a water/fiber slurry down on a rolling belt under vacumm to remove the water and form random linkages...the paper making process.
Jackuul
01-04-2004, 10:00
i used to go to banks and ask for wheat back penneys, and they would give me entire rolls for 50 normal pennys
Bodies Without Organs
01-04-2004, 10:06
I generally have no prblem spending them in Manchester, although you have to point out that it says on the note it is sterling

I almost starved to death with them one weekend in Coventry, depsite repeatedly pointing out the fact that they said sterling.
Conceptualists
01-04-2004, 10:08
I generally have no prblem spending them in Manchester, although you have to point out that it says on the note it is sterling

I almost starved to death with them one weekend in Coventry, depsite repeatedly pointing out the fact that they said sterling.

F---ing Southerners, don't know anything.