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This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.

LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You probably will not see the charred bodies of these victims on the news in the coming days:

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This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.

Uh, perhaps you don't understand.

The reason they did this is that they don't want to be occupied. They don't want these people there. They want to be free. While it was excessive and gruesome, they did what they did because they are fed up with being occupied.

I do not condone what they did but they are tired of this freaking retardedness. They did not ask for the US to come there. They have said several times that they did not want the US there in rallies.

What about all of the Iraqis killed by the cluster bombs, bullets, etc. of the US? What about the little 10 or so year old kid that lost his entire family, received burns over most of his body, and lost his arms and legs because of US bombing?

I'm fed up with Liberals lying and getting elected through illegal means. Should I go out and start burning them to death?

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This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.Uh, perhaps you don't understand. The reason they did this is that they don't want to be occupied. They don't want these people there. They want to be free. While it was excessive and gruesome, they did what they did because they are fed up with being occupied.I might agree with you...except that Saddam Hussein's regime did this to people. ~ Michael.

I'm fed up with Liberals lying and getting elected through illegal means. Should I go out and start burning them to death?

Um... what the hell? What, exactly, are you talking about?

I do not condone what they did but they are tired of this freaking retardedness. They did not ask for the US to come there. They have said several times that they did not want the US there in rallies.

What about all of the Iraqis killed by the cluster bombs, bullets, etc. of the US? What about the little 10 or so year old kid that lost his entire family, received burns over most of his body, and lost his arms and legs because of US bombing?What about the millions dead because of Saddam Hussein? What about the wars he started? ~ Michael.

Replying to Al Anbar who believes this kind of mob violence is perfectly fine.

I do not condone what they did but they are tired of this freaking retardedness. They did not ask for the US to come there. They have said several times that they did not want the US there in rallies.

What about all of the Iraqis killed by the cluster bombs, bullets, etc. of the US? What about the little 10 or so year old kid that lost his entire family, received burns over most of his body, and lost his arms and legs because of US bombing?What about the millions dead because of Saddam Hussein? What about the wars he started? ~ Michael.

The war with Iran was not started by Saddam Hussein as the US media tries to paint it. For a month before, Iranians were shelling Iraqi territory and ignoring treaty obligations with Iraq over the Shatt al-Arab. When Khomeini came to power, Saddam sent congratulations to Khomeini only to receive the reply: 'Peace does not come with non-believers' or somesuch. Which meant: Iraq's secular government would not be acceptable to Iran.

Kuwait was a bad thing and should not have happened.

What about the 600 Dead by Bush? Should we kill him too? What about the wars he started?

What about the 500,000 troops that were in vietnam? Should we send hitmen after that president too?

Look. I know what Saddam did was wrong, but you all are so one-sided about this. It's not invade or don't. It's GET UN SUPPORT, so that we don't alienate our allies. What if we're attacked and need help? We'll get help if we have allies, and don't give me that 'france is a coward' BS. That's such prejudice and i hope you've all risen above that.

Saddam had been doing that to his people for 7 years. SEVEN. But suddenly after we need someone to blame so bush's ratings go up guess who suddenly is back on the agenda again? And give me proof he was developing nukes if you're going off on that tangent.

k yes i realize more iraqs may have died during the time we got UN support, but it would be well worth it to see a much less bloody coup with daily deaths rocking the whole country. thank you for reading this and taking me seriously.

-Frosty.

Kuwait was a bad thing and should not have happened.So then it was a good thing the first President Bush fought Iraq to free Kuwait. ~ Michael.

Kuwait was a bad thing and should not have happened.So then it was a good thing the first President Bush fought Iraq to free Kuwait. ~ Michael.

If the first President Bush had finished what he started, we wouldn't be talking about the second President Bush's involvement in Iraq. Fact is that once Bush Sr. freed the American-friendly Kuwaiti oil fields, he was content to go back home and let Hussein continue to rape his country.

What about the 600 Dead by Bush? Should we kill him too? What about the wars he started?

What about the 500,000 troops that were in vietnam? Should we send hitmen after that president too?

Look. I know what Saddam did was wrong, but you all are so one-sided about this. It's not invade or don't. It's GET UN SUPPORT, so that we don't alienate our allies. What if we're attacked and need help? We'll get help if we have allies, and don't give me that 'france is a coward' BS. That's such prejudice and i hope you've all risen above that.

Saddam had been doing that to his people for 7 years. SEVEN. But suddenly after we need someone to blame so bush's ratings go up guess who suddenly is back on the agenda again? And give me proof he was developing nukes if you're going off on that tangent.

k yes i realize more iraqs may have died during the time we got UN support, but it would be well worth it to see a much less bloody coup with daily deaths rocking the whole country. thank you for reading this and taking me seriously.

-Frosty.

I'd be all in favour of sending the hitmen after LBJ (Lyndon Baines Johnson), but he's already dead. :8)
As for Bush? that's a fairly weak equivalence.

Replying to Al Anbar who believes this kind of mob violence is perfectly fine.

I was referring to the liberals/elections thing

It's not invade or don't. It's GET UN SUPPORT, so that we don't alienate our allies.The UN was in Iraq after the war ended, but the UN left because they could not stand the heat. It was the same thing in Bosnia, East Timor, Haiti, and every other place where the UN has gone. Christian Serbs are being burned out of their houses and churches while the UN stands by and does nothing right now. The UN is useless. And besides that, the UN does not have to support any military action. They let dictators go on and on for years brutalizing their citizens and threatening the world. ~ Michael.

Kuwait was a bad thing and should not have happened.So then it was a good thing the first President Bush fought Iraq to free Kuwait. ~ Michael.

If the first President Bush had finished what he started, we wouldn't be talking about the second President Bush's involvement in Iraq. Fact is that once Bush Sr. freed the American-friendly Kuwaiti oil fields, he was content to go back home and let Hussein continue to rape his country.

'rape his country' lol. :lol:

Kuwait should have been freed and had democratic elections. The Kuwaiti dictator shouldn't have been put back into power.

Replying to Al Anbar who believes this kind of mob violence is perfectly fine.

I was referring to the liberals/elections thing
Yes, that was a reply to Al Anbar. He believes these actions are justified because of the way the U.S. involves itself in the Middle East. Well, I would then be perfectly legitimate in believing that Liberals should be burned to death here in California for being elected illegally.

Replying to Al Anbar who believes this kind of mob violence is perfectly fine.

I was referring to the liberals/elections thing
Yes, that was a reply to Al Anbar. He believes these actions are justified because of the way the U.S. involves itself in the Middle East. Well, I would then be perfectly legitimate in believing that Liberals should be burned to death here in California for being elected illegally.

Which is what I was confused about. Who was elected illegally?

Replying to Al Anbar who believes this kind of mob violence is perfectly fine.

I was referring to the liberals/elections thing
Yes, that was a reply to Al Anbar. He believes these actions are justified because of the way the U.S. involves itself in the Middle East. Well, I would then be perfectly legitimate in believing that Liberals should be burned to death here in California for being elected illegally.

Who got elected illegally in California? That's the second or third time I've heard that. Did I miss something?

Long standing issue, Liberals encouraging the illegal immigration problem in California, to get the minority vote, along with the illegal votes of the aliens coming into the country.

I'm just comparing one extreme position to another, just call Al Anbar crazy.

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll:

What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.

those pictures are gruesome. but those people didn't get killed because they weren't muslim, hell, christians and jews aren't even infidels according ti islam.
those people were killed because people are frustrated about having an occupying force in their country. i'm not saying that they should have done that. simply that religion didn't have anything to do with it.

those pictures are gruesome. but those people didn't get killed because they weren't muslim, hell, christians and jews aren't even infidels according ti islam.
those people were killed because people are frustrated about having an occupying force in their country. i'm not saying that they should have done that. simply that religion didn't have anything to do with it.

Exactly what I said. Atleast there is one other sane person here. :)

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll:

What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean people aren't allowed to call you names.

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll: What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.You have freedom of speech. Who among us will track you down, drag you out of your home, beat you with sticks, tie you from a lamp post, and set you on fire for what you say? ~ Michael.

those pictures are gruesome. but those people didn't get killed because they weren't muslim, hell, christians and jews aren't even infidels according ti islam.
those people were killed because people are frustrated about having an occupying force in their country. i'm not saying that they should have done that. simply that religion didn't have anything to do with it.

Exactly what I said. Atleast there is one other sane person here. :)

*shrugs* some fundamentalists like to take every opporunity to ridicule other, equally legitimate religions. i can't stand by that, now can i? :)

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll: What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.You have freedom of speech. Who among us will track you down, drag you out of your home, beat you with sticks, tie you from a lamp post, and set you on fire for what you say? ~ Michael.

do you even know what happened to those people? their cars were burnt with them in them. their corpses were scorced and tehy were dead long before the iraqi mob started hanging them from posts and poking them with sticks and hitting the bodies.
also, they weren't tracked down so much as ambushed and their cars set on fire... as well, they weren't drug out of their homes, but attacked in their car... well, you get the point.

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll: What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.You have freedom of speech. Who among us will track you down, drag you out of your home, beat you with sticks, tie you from a lamp post, and set you on fire for what you say? ~ Michael.do you even know what happened to those people? their cars were burnt with them in them. their corpses were scorced and tehy were dead long before the iraqi mob started hanging them from posts and poking them with sticks and hitting the bodies. also, they weren't tracked down so much as ambushed and their cars set on fire... as well, they weren't drug out of their homes, but attacked in their car... well, you get the point.Oh, well, excuse me if I get a few minor details wrong. So who among us is going to tail Al Anbar's car and throw a grenade in it? He has freedom of speech, and I doubt anyone on the list will retaliate violently against him for expressing his views. ~ Michael.

Every time I see something like this, my mind automatically juxtapositions it with the image of Bush and his aircraft carrier landing. I'm not trying to make a snide political statement -- it's just a creepy and sad feeling.

I really don't think Iraq will ever be a stable democracy.

Oh, well, excuse me if I get a few minor details wrong. So who among us is going to tail Al Anbar's car and throw a grenade in it? He has freedom of speech, and I doubt anyone on the list will retaliate violently against him for expressing his views. ~ Michael.

a few details? you got the whole thing wrong. you made it out to be that they got partially beaten to death and then burned and hung...
you posted those pictures without knowing the circumstances except that the people who did the attacking were muslim and iraqi and the people who were killed were christian and american.
i really think you posted those pictures for shock value. which is really disgusting.

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll:

What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean people aren't allowed to call you names.

Freedom of speech does allow that. Morality says it's not nice.

How do you measure "proper" language. Why you find insulting; might mean nothing to somebody else. Who is right?

LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You probably will not see the charred bodies of these victims on the news in the coming days:

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This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.

haha...shut up, it had nothing to do with religon

Call me crazy for expressing my ideas? :roll:

What happened to the freedom of speech? Sigh. Conservatives just don't know how to get along with others.

If it makes you feel better, I think most people generally act like jackasses. Including in this thread.

And, yes, jackassery is ALWAYS bipartisan.

Kuwait was a bad thing and should not have happened.So then it was a good thing the first President Bush fought Iraq to free Kuwait. ~ Michael.

If the first President Bush had finished what he started, we wouldn't be talking about the second President Bush's involvement in Iraq. Fact is that once Bush Sr. freed the American-friendly Kuwaiti oil fields, he was content to go back home and let Hussein continue to rape his country.

Bull...Bush had no choice to pull back...the UN Mandate expressly forbid entering Iraqi soil...this was done to appease the Arab states because none of them had the guts to go after one of "their boys" in their own back yard....they were fine with liberating Kuwait..especially since the Saudis didn't want Saddam's 400,000 troops sitting on their border. If Bush Sr hadn't cared bout what the UN thought THEN...my unit with the 1st Marine Division was 150 miles to Baghdad and there wasn't NOTHING stopping us..the Army's 24th Mechanized out of Ft. Hood Texas was on our left flank and could have rolled right into Iraq proper...I remember my response when my Platoon commander radioed my humvee and told me to "Halt in place, further communications to follow"...then the news that the Iraqis had signed an Armistice...I remember thinking "Friggin UN gonna screw us sometime in the future over this crap"

Yes, that was a reply to Al Anbar. He believes these actions are justified because of the way the U.S. involves itself in the Middle East.

No he didn't. If you cared to read posts instead of dismissing them because of the authors political views, you would have seen he said:I do not condone what they did but they are tired of this freaking retardedness..... it was excessive and gruesome, they did what they did because they are fed up with being occupied. S/he and I do not approve of the killings but can understand why people would feel them neccesary. Understanding does not equate with condoning.

Well, I would then be perfectly legitimate in believing that Liberals should be burned to death here in California for being elected illegally.

What are you wittering on about?

If the US was invaded and occupied, what would you do?

Kuwait was a bad thing and should not have happened.So then it was a good thing the first President Bush fought Iraq to free Kuwait. ~ Michael.

If the first President Bush had finished what he started, we wouldn't be talking about the second President Bush's involvement in Iraq. Fact is that once Bush Sr. freed the American-friendly Kuwaiti oil fields, he was content to go back home and let Hussein continue to rape his country.

Bull...Bush had no choice to pull back...the UN Mandate expressly forbid entering Iraqi soil...this was done to appease the Arab states because none of them had the guts to go after one of "their boys" in their own back yard....they were fine with liberating Kuwait..especially since the Saudis didn't want Saddam's 400,000 troops sitting on their border. If Bush Sr hadn't cared bout what the UN thought THEN...my unit with the 1st Marine Division was 150 miles to Baghdad and there wasn't NOTHING stopping us..the Army's 24th Mechanized out of Ft. Hood Texas was on our left flank and could have rolled right into Iraq proper...I remember my response when my Platoon commander radioed my humvee and told me to "Halt in place, further communications to follow"...then the news that the Iraqis had signed an Armistice...I remember thinking "Friggin UN gonna screw us sometime in the future over this crap"

So what your saying is that the UN expressly forbid the forces from entering Iraq...but you were 150 miles from Baghdad?

The more I try to understand why these people did what they did, the more depressed I get.

It's partly about human nature I think- perhaps we could say something like "what do you think would happen if an Al-Qaeda operative's bomb failed to go off and he was caught in the middle of an angry crowd in New York or London?" Would we hand him to the authorities or let the lynch mentality take over- I think we all, deep down, know the answer to that. But we live in the West, where it's 'safe', and where we never find ourselves in situations where those sort of things are likely to happen. So we see ourselves as 'above' it all, which makes our disgust at those who do commit such barbaric acts ever greater. At the same time, we find it difficult to understand how anyone could so violently oppose the values of liberal free-market democracy that has given us the freedoms and prosperity we in the west so cherish. How can people seem so jealous and loathsome of our freedoms that they are prepared to try and kill us, and yet are unwilling to accept those freedoms for themselves, and meet any attempt to help them with violence? The sad fact is, I think, that it does not matter whether Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq for good reasons, as the right would contend, or bad reasons, as the left have argued. It will all come to nothing in the end... but the further away the end is, the more innocent people will pay with their lives.

I'm fed up with Liberals lying and getting elected through illegal means. Should I go out and start burning them to death?

I'm fed up with CONSERVATIVES lying and getting elected through
illegal means! And which happened more recently?
Was it a liberal who got in illegally and through dishonest means,
or a conservative? (think back to the Bush vote count and
Florida)
I rest my case.

On to MORE IMPORTANT matters:
I DO see your point. But there's quite a difference in scale between
merely "being elected by illegal means" and "violence".

And the Iraqis did it to these people because of the violence and
corruption visited upon THEM by AMERICA.

Don't get me wrong...I DON'T CONDONE what happened to these
people. It was a gross overreaction, to say the least.

But I understand what is motivating some of the more
extremist among them.
(keep in mind that not everyone in that city/cities was/were involved
in this)

The American Government (be it Republican OR Democrat) has,
in some way or other, found ways to exploit/hammer/keep down
the people of these nations, and then are surprised when people
FIGHT BACK.
If you were smacking someone over, and then stopped for a second,
would you be surprised if they turned around and clouted you
while you weren't expecting it?

I don't like it when it happens to EITHER side, Iraqi or American.
Many people seem to go for the "violence is the only language
these people understand" approach, and they won't exhaust all
other options first.

I would like to ask people who advocate immediate US withdrawal from Iraq what they think would happen to the country.

There would not be the defence or security structures necessary to keep order, that the population at large appears fairly well armed and that there are deep religious and political fractures between many groups not used to the process of political compromise or democracy.

It doesn't take a genius to work out the fact that such a withdrawal would lead to a complete breakdown of society, a vast increase in crime and killing (maybe people will notice that most of the bombings of late have not been targetted on coaltion forces), possibly an armed coup by religious fundamentalists or perhaps even loyalists to Saddam, possibly even a civil war.

The idea that we should withdraw because of scenes like this is crap, perhaps if they were shown video clips of what would happen if we did they might be less inclined to argue thus. Whether or not you agreed with the initial invasion the fact is that we're there now and things will get a hell of a lot worse if we leave before Iraq is stable enough for us to do so.

I would like to ask people who advocate immediate US withdrawal from Iraq what they think would happen to the country.

There would not be the defence or security structures necessary to keep order, that the population at large appears fairly well armed and that there are deep religious and political fractures between many groups not used to the process of political compromise or democracy.

It doesn't take a genius to work out the fact that such a withdrawal would lead to a complete breakdown of society, a vast increase in crime and killing (maybe people will notice that most of the bombings of late have not been targetted on coaltion forces), possibly an armed coup by religious fundamentalists or perhaps even loyalists to Saddam, possibly even a civil war.

The idea that we should withdraw because of scenes like this is crap, perhaps if they were shown video clips of what would happen if we did they might be less inclined to argue thus. Whether or not you agreed with the initial invasion the fact is that we're there now and things will get a hell of a lot worse if we leave before Iraq is stable enough for us to do so.

Oh...right...the war on terror, waving flags...etc...
Understand this: Terrorism doesn't happen unless there is fertile soil for it in which it can thrive...Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before the war, now it is. What does Al Qaeda thrive on? Hate. Why is it there? Because Americans are hated...
Seems to me that American's have a bad case of the "we can't deal with consequences of our actions" syndrome...
http://www.n3t.net/humor/bush1.jpg

Al Qaeda hates.

If you believe that they hate only Americans and those citizens of nations that support America you are incorrect. They hate.

They hate everyone but themselves. They tolerate those that can help them for as long as they can help them.

There were Al Qaeda in Iraq prior to the war. There are Al Qaeda in every nation. Difference is that only a few governments support them but they have supporters in all nations. Perhaps some of these supporters post here, who knows.

If you think that they would not kill a Canadian or European as quickly as an American you are mistaken. If it happened it would be said that the victims were mistaken for Americans but it would not have been a mistake.

They use their own people as weapons. If the leaders were so dedicated to the cause why were they not piloting the planes that crashed into the WTC? Why are they not suited up with bombs and happily blow themselves up for the just cause. Guess it really does not matter. There will always be hate groups in the world.

So if it pleases you to place blame on the U.S. and/or George Bush, go right ahead. If you want to blame Liberals or Conservatives that is ok too. If you think the U.S. or any other nation needs to ask the UN's permission to protect itself please pass that pipe this way I could use a hit.

We weren't protecting ourselves from Iraq!!!! They weren't a major supporter of terrorism...we have ALLIES in the middle east that pose a greater threat to our security than Iraq ever did.

Where were most of the 9/11 hijackers from? Where did the people who bombed the WTC in 1992 come from?

And then you have Pakistan over there proliferating nuclear technology (and possibly materials) like a sieve.

We weren't protecting ourselves from Iraq!!!! They weren't a major supporter of terrorism...we have ALLIES in the middle east that pose a greater threat to our security than Iraq ever did.

Where were most of the 9/11 hijackers from? Where did the people who bombed the WTC in 1992 come from?

Thanks, but that was 1993. I was there. kthnxbye.

And then you have Pakistan over there proliferating nuclear technology (and possibly materials) like a sieve.

And, of course, since they are our "stalwart and steadfast ally," the President just waved his hand and said "Hey, dudes, it's alright, just don't lemme know about it, k?" F***ing asstard Bush. The only thing separating Musharraf and the people who bombed the WTC in 1993, and who ordered the attacks on the WTC in 2001, is control of the military and friends like George.

Thanks, but that was 1993. I was there. kthnxbye.
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Eh. Typo.

Al Qaeda hates.

If you believe that they hate only Americans and those citizens of nations that support America you are incorrect. They hate.

They hate everyone but themselves. They tolerate those that can help them for as long as they can help them.

There were Al Qaeda in Iraq prior to the war. There are Al Qaeda in every nation. Difference is that only a few governments support them but they have supporters in all nations. Perhaps some of these supporters post here, who knows.

If you think that they would not kill a Canadian or European as quickly as an American you are mistaken. If it happened it would be said that the victims were mistaken for Americans but it would not have been a mistake.

They use their own people as weapons. If the leaders were so dedicated to the cause why were they not piloting the planes that crashed into the WTC? Why are they not suited up with bombs and happily blow themselves up for the just cause. Guess it really does not matter. There will always be hate groups in the world.

So if it pleases you to place blame on the U.S. and/or George Bush, go right ahead. If you want to blame Liberals or Conservatives that is ok too. If you think the U.S. or any other nation needs to ask the UN's permission to protect itself please pass that pipe this way I could use a hit.

Great. Now tell me what Al-Qeada has to do with Iraq?

Those bodies in the photo are covert ops.

Al Qaeda hates.

If you believe that they hate only Americans and those citizens of nations that support America you are incorrect. They hate.

They hate everyone but themselves. They tolerate those that can help them for as long as they can help them.

There were Al Qaeda in Iraq prior to the war. There are Al Qaeda in every nation. Difference is that only a few governments support them but they have supporters in all nations. Perhaps some of these supporters post here, who knows.

If you think that they would not kill a Canadian or European as quickly as an American you are mistaken. If it happened it would be said that the victims were mistaken for Americans but it would not have been a mistake.

They use their own people as weapons. If the leaders were so dedicated to the cause why were they not piloting the planes that crashed into the WTC? Why are they not suited up with bombs and happily blow themselves up for the just cause. Guess it really does not matter. There will always be hate groups in the world.

So if it pleases you to place blame on the U.S. and/or George Bush, go right ahead. If you want to blame Liberals or Conservatives that is ok too. If you think the U.S. or any other nation needs to ask the UN's permission to protect itself please pass that pipe this way I could use a hit.

Great. Now tell me what Al-Qeada has to do with Iraq?

Al Qaida was violently opposed to Saddam Hussein prior to our invasion. Al Qaida helped arm Kurdish insurgent groups with the chemical weapon ricin, and we all know Saddam's relationship with the Kurds. After the Iraqi invasion, Osama condemned Saddam as an "infidel" even as he exhorted the Iraqi people to rise up against the American occupation forces. Now, Al Qaida rounds up converts, incites violence, and conducts suicide bombings in Iraq, allied with their former mortal enemies, the Ba'athists.

Basically, there was no link between Iraq and Al Qaida until we produced it.

LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You probably will not see the charred bodies of these victims on the news in the coming days:

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/pictures033104.html

This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.Uh, perhaps you don't understand. The reason they did this is that they don't want to be occupied. They don't want these people there. They want to be free. While it was excessive and gruesome, they did what they did because they are fed up with being occupied.I might agree with you...except that Saddam Hussein's regime did this to people. ~ Michael.
All war is brutal and sickening. Sometimes, images are brought forward and they show the pain and suffering and mans' inhumanity against man.

This is what happened to retreating Iraqis on the "Highway of Death" (Feb. 25-26, 1991) during Desert Storm, after an armistice had been declared:

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0212/pt04.html

There definitely is too much hate in todays world.

LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You probably will not see the charred bodies of these victims on the news in the coming days:

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/pictures033104.html

This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.

Reminds me of the KKK.

LOOK AT THE PICTURES! You probably will not see the charred bodies of these victims on the news in the coming days:

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/pictures033104.html

This is what happens to Christians, Jews, political dissenters, and infidels in Islamic countries. And if you do not recognize what some of those shapes are on on the upper lefthand corner, you can see the man's genitals. ~ Michael.

Reminds me of the KKK.
Sometimes people fail to realize what exists right in their own backyards. It is obvious that the KKK is/was a classic example of hate, predjudice, and violence.