NationStates Jolt Archive


Should prostitution be legal?

31-03-2004, 16:28
In the United States prostitution is illegal. If it were a legal profession where the government could set regulations.
1) All workers get tested on a regular basis for disease. This will help with some of the spreading of diseases.
2) Prostitution services will be performed out of a business establishment. Without the prostitutes on the street corner there's less of a possibility of minors seeing the transactions.
3) The government could tax the profession and place the income into the schools.
Paradise Rand
31-03-2004, 16:42
I have to say yes because it's simply an agreement between two consenting adults. Also the regulations would make it safer and help get the underaged whores off the streets.

Maybe some women are opposed to its legalization because they'll see a drop in freebies when men have the ability to pay less to get a prostitute than take them out a few times with no guarantee.
Min Min
31-03-2004, 16:46
What is the point in prostitution being illegal? All it does is make criminals of the women (and men I suppose) who work in the 'sex industry'. It achieves absolutely nothing positive. Legalise it and then it can be monitored and policed properly.
Tumaniaa
31-03-2004, 16:49
It's legal where I live and the system works fine.
The only limitations are that it cannot be your main source of income and a third party can't profit from it (in other words: no pimps)
Sumamba Buwhan
31-03-2004, 17:28
good points! I also agree it should be legal. I would like to see the arguments against the worlds oldest profession though.
Aust
31-03-2004, 17:51
It should be leagle I mean whats wrong with it, the goverment just doesn't want to be seen as unclean.
Spoffin
31-03-2004, 17:54
Absolutely should be legal. Why should it be criminal to sell what you're allowed to give away for nothing?
Salishe
31-03-2004, 17:56
We tried the whole "business" angle once before..for quite a long time actually...it's called a "brothel" for those that don't know it..the girls were all centrally located..in fact my own home town area of Nashville TN had quite a regular heyday after the Yankee forces occupied it...the brothels were in full swing..likewise Hotel street in Honalulu, HA during WW2, it was tigthly controlled...

In the end..such experiments proved unworkable.

In essence...legitimzing prostitution only will legalize the exploitation of women and the objectification of women as sex objects...I've known a few prostitutes in my time in the military...never knew ONE who actually wanted to be a prostitute....and the "no pimp" angle would never work here...weaker women who lacked the self-esteem or the smarts to survive in that world would be taken advantage of..in fact, continue to be taken advantage of.

And for some of these women in urban areas it would be there sole source of income..hence another reason why the system as it is where Tuminiaa lives couldn't work in the States.

Finally..I would never wish for my daughter or sister or female relative to be relegated to the status of a hole or a mouth where a man can find the money in order to relieve himself..
Garaj Mahal
31-03-2004, 18:03
In the United States prostitution is illegal. If it were a legal profession where the government could set regulations.
1) All workers get tested on a regular basis for disease. This will help with some of the spreading of diseases.
2) Prostitution services will be performed out of a business establishment. Without the prostitutes on the street corner there's less of a possibility of minors seeing the transactions.
3) The government could tax the profession and place the income into the schools. :!:
Gods Bowels
31-03-2004, 18:05
I personally know a prostitute that is very happy and does it by choice. I would have to say legalize it. It creates revenue for the U.S. and makes it safer for the prossies and the customers.

It has already proven to not be workable as illegal and works very well in Las Vegas where it is legal. It is far more dangerous not to ahve it regulated.
Salishe
31-03-2004, 18:09
I personally know a prostitute that is very happy and does it by choice. I would have to say legalize it. It creates revenue for the U.S. and makes it safer for the prossies and the customers.

It has already proven to not be workable as illegal and works very well in Las Vegas where it is legal. It is far more dangerous not to ahve it regulated.

Shoot...I used to go to Las Vegas from when I was stationed at 29 Palms CA or Yuma, AZ....that place despite it "being legal"..has one helluva dark underbelly...and I flat out guarantee that your prossie...is the exception, not the rule...
Bacchical
31-03-2004, 18:11
I always love how when you make something illegal, you in fact make in harder to control and work with, and in fact are screwing yourself (no pun intended), because as soon as one illegality is broken, where's the harm in more? I say, legalize it, and make brothels safer, easier ways to work than the streets, so the whole situation is centralized. We can also issue "job licenses", and yes, there is a pun in that, which state what a working girls does and doesn't, just in case she seeks a job at a later date, and the employer happens to be a religious bastard for anything outside of, say, handjobs.
Gods Bowels
31-03-2004, 18:12
How long ago was this?
Evil ginger monkeys
31-03-2004, 18:13
at the end of the day they're adults and should be free to do with their bodies as they wish and as long as they're happy with the situation they're in it should be legal. However, it should only be legal in properly run "shops" and not the drug addicted backstreet, dark alley prostitution
Kryozerkia
31-03-2004, 18:14
Alcohol and tobacco are already legal... Why not add in legal sex?!
Beloved and Hope
31-03-2004, 18:17
at the end of the day they're adults and should be free to do with their bodies as they wish and as long as they're happy with the situation they're in it should be legal. However, it should only be legal in properly run "shops" and not the drug addicted backstreet, dark alley prostitution

Thats the worst type of prostitution.
I definitely prefer drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys.
Bacchical
31-03-2004, 18:22
at the end of the day they're adults and should be free to do with their bodies as they wish and as long as they're happy with the situation they're in it should be legal. However, it should only be legal in properly run "shops" and not the drug addicted backstreet, dark alley prostitution

Thats the worst type of prostitution.
I definitely prefer drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys.

Hate to break it to ya, but if brothelized prostitution becomes legal, there won't be any "drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys". Think about it.

A: Comfortable setting with good wages, a semi-respectable job, and no threat of police or personal injury.
B: Dark alley, getting awful wages and the spit of society, and being constantly harassed by any and all.

You make the choice. The only ones who might walk the street after legalization are those who can't get into brothels, aka "dirty" women with VD, and since the average person isn't likely to shoot for a woman of that quality, the streetwalkers would either move on to something else, or just die. A bit of a crappy ending, I do admit. But then again, what can you do? It's not like they were living the high life to begin with.
31-03-2004, 18:27
In the United States prostitution is illegal.

Not true.
Naked George Clooney
31-03-2004, 18:37
Might as well make it legal- since making it illegal only harms the workers and customers of the sex industry- and lets be honest who are they harming?
The prostitute sells her body at whatever price she feels shes worth and the customer gets to get laid . Why should that be illegal? Since it would have been legal for the prostitute to give the punter sex for free why shouldnt she be allowed to charge?
Why shouldnt the prostitute have the protection of a safe regulated workplace rather than having to risk her life working the streets?
Dakini
31-03-2004, 18:50
it should be legal. i'm not saying it's a wonderful thing, but women are going to be desperate enough to do that and there's always demand for the world's oldest profession...

it would allow women who do this to have a safe and warm place to peddle their wares, keep them from being abused by pimps, make them get tested, and they'd have to pay income tax.
Bird dog
31-03-2004, 19:15
legalized and regulated
Beloved and Hope
02-04-2004, 12:29
at the end of the day they're adults and should be free to do with their bodies as they wish and as long as they're happy with the situation they're in it should be legal. However, it should only be legal in properly run "shops" and not the drug addicted backstreet, dark alley prostitution

Thats the worst type of prostitution.
I definitely prefer drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys.

Hate to break it to ya, but if brothelized prostitution becomes legal, there won't be any "drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys". Think about it.

A: Comfortable setting with good wages, a semi-respectable job, and no threat of police or personal injury.
B: Dark alley, getting awful wages and the spit of society, and being constantly harassed by any and all.

You make the choice. The only ones who might walk the street after legalization are those who can't get into brothels, aka "dirty" women with VD, and since the average person isn't likely to shoot for a woman of that quality, the streetwalkers would either move on to something else, or just die. A bit of a crappy ending, I do admit. But then again, what can you do? It's not like they were living the high life to begin with.

Think you need to think about drug abuse.Good wages mean better drugs(drug abuse goes deeper than poor wages,sex and drugs go hand in hand,part of the business).And even in countries where prostitution is legal there is always a risk of personal injury.And no matter what anyone says, lying on the flat of your back being rammed by some slob who couldn't pull in a house full of nymphomaniaic's can never be a preferred life choice or be considered even semi-respectable.
Daistallia 2104
02-04-2004, 17:41
As pointed out above, it is legal in the US - at least in some places.
Here in Japan it is semi-legal*. Not many drug problems, but more than the population at large...

(*pimping, soliciting, and running a brothel are illegal. However only when actual genetal-genetal sex is involved. Otherwise, anything goes. Also, recently call girl prostitution has essentially been de-criminalized, for all practical purposes.)
Libertovania
02-04-2004, 18:00
You want to tax it?!?!? It seems the govt is not only a thief, a liar and a murderer but now it's a pimp too! The govt has no business getting involved in capitalist acts between consenting adults.
Sumamba Buwhan
02-04-2004, 18:55
The UK is now proposing to legalize protitution because of Hollands track record for making it safer for the women. They like having them all in one place giving them more regulation and a chance to help them change their lives for the better if they decide too.

I think each U.S. State should have its own red light district. and also offer programs to those working in the district to help them better themselves. The money made from the taxes could cover the programs easily.
02-04-2004, 19:31
I was just about to mention Holland. They legalised prostitution, took away the pimps & have regular testing.
I am a woman & I have never found Amsterdams red light district to be intimidating or offensive. I would find the roads of London far more frightening & offensive when paved with prostitutes.
Lets face it. Women are going to be prostitutes as long as there is a market. Theres always going to be a market. Legalise prostitution, get rid of the pimps. I don't see whats wrong with prostitutes paying taxes & NI as well. They use all the services ( not a pun!) everyone else uses, why should they get them for 'free'?????
Rights of Man
02-04-2004, 19:44
If you haven't done the research, please take maybe five minutes. Punch in for the Nevada statutes in your Google Search bar or whatever.

Legal prostitution means the legal and completely enforceable arrest of the girl on the street soliciting to nearby cars. Nevada took a long time to do their laws so no one else would have to think much about it. Red light district, 15 miles out from the nearest residential zone, regulated by a brothel system, government regulated health check-ups, "apprenticeship" training in the prevention of sexual disease, (Insert Yul Brenner) etcetera, etcetera, and so forth.

Now, I know it makes some people uncomfortable, but this form of regulation means it is not just implicated to be illegal in your neighborhood. IT IS DEFINITELY ILLEGAL in your neighborhood. It protects all levels of prude, parent, and backdoor Catholic by keeping it away. As far as the people who don't like it are concerned, it is illegal. There is a sign if you are anywhere near it.

For those who are less squeamish or more... shall we say "inclined"? there is a distinct venue available with regulations for the proper actions to be taken. No longer are there "maybes" or other rituals. All matter of abuse is forbidden.

The only problem with the legality of prostitution is the desire for enforcement. All the service laws are observed ( tutes... if you ever saw Off Centre) but laws regarding abuse by the client may not be so appealing to some cops. If the community as a whole doesn't regard the legalization of "the oldest profession" with any respect, then you are bound to see the abuse of these laws in the opposite direction, and the neglect of these laws with intent to prostitute protection.

Yea, research does do alot.
02-04-2004, 23:42
Jehova would be against it so it must be wrong. :evil:
Garaj Mahal
17-04-2004, 03:53
Prostitution laws are just another way to beat up the poor. So-called "High Class Prostitutes" and their rich customers (like judges and politicians) operate with almost complete impunity, while the street sex-trade workers and their working-class johns are the ones who get prosecuted.

This is nothing new, but it bears repeating endlessly until our stupid, hypocrital laws are finally changed.
17-04-2004, 04:01
I still take exception to the notion that prostitution is illegal in the United States.

Anyway, it should be legal and completely unregulated (except for the usual prohibitions against force and fraud, of course--but then, that applies to everyone). It's your own damn body.
17-04-2004, 04:38
:D The first oldest profession(polittics)is legal.Why not make the second oldest profession legal?

I think I agree with the majority of you un this issue.I worked with a guy who was a merchant marine before he became a cook.He told me a little bit about how the prostitution laws work in Holland,Germany,and Nevada.If people are going to be selling sex ,why not make it safer for the women(or men)who provide the service,as well as the people who purchase the service?I think it would also free up our law enforcement officers to go after the more violent crimminals in our soceity.

Just my opinion .
Dragoneia
17-04-2004, 05:45
I dont think prostatution should be legal its digusting in my opinion and the only people it helps are sluts and guys who cant get a girl for themselves.
Monkeypimp
17-04-2004, 06:13
It's been legal here for a while, and as far as I can tell the only thing thats changed is that prostitutes feel safer.
Rotovia
17-04-2004, 06:29
Since prositution was legalised in Queensland for registered borthels illegal street prositution and organised crime has increased.
Ansgard
17-04-2004, 06:45
In the United States prostitution is illegal.

Not true.

In some parts, it is.
imported_Free Morons
17-04-2004, 06:45
If this site drives home anything, it is that action often have unintended consequences. Legalizing prostitution will have lots of them, including the objectification of women and perhaps, the decline of monogamy. What new standards will women apply to dating if this comes about?

As for "drug addicted dark alley prostitution," that's not the only kind of illegal prostitution there is. Check into "escort services" for an example. Lots of young women work for these organizations to pay for college, just as some find other jobs in the sex industry for the same purpose.
17-04-2004, 06:45
It's the world's oldest profession. It's never going to be completely stopped (unless we lock everyone up and supervise all interractions) (actually that sounds good - cut down on all crime). So we might as well all make money off it. Legalise it then tax it hehehe!!!!
Toccatta Land
17-04-2004, 06:49
at the end of the day they're adults and should be free to do with their bodies as they wish and as long as they're happy with the situation they're in it should be legal. However, it should only be legal in properly run "shops" and not the drug addicted backstreet, dark alley prostitution

Thats the worst type of prostitution.
I definitely prefer drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys.

Hate to break it to ya, but if brothelized prostitution becomes legal, there won't be any "drug addicted prostitution in dark shops as opposed to dark alleys". Think about it.

A: Comfortable setting with good wages, a semi-respectable job, and no threat of police or personal injury.
B: Dark alley, getting awful wages and the spit of society, and being constantly harassed by any and all.

You make the choice. The only ones who might walk the street after legalization are those who can't get into brothels, aka "dirty" women with VD, and since the average person isn't likely to shoot for a woman of that quality, the streetwalkers would either move on to something else, or just die. A bit of a crappy ending, I do admit. But then again, what can you do? It's not like they were living the high life to begin with.

Okay, thought about it. Now, say there were suitable wages for these women in the brothels. That means there must be suitable rates, as in, moderately high. There would also be tests to make sure that you're clean and questions and forms to fill out.

Now, the alternative is prostitution as we know it today. You pay a smallish fee, take your chance, whip it out and get it done, no questions, no answers, no commitment.

So, even if we made it safer, you know there'd still be some underground prostitution, so making it legal wouldn't solve everything. Just to put it all in perspective, you're making it sound like it's the quick-fix to solve all of the problems that involve prostitution. In reality, it might set a better trend, but it won't be completely effective.
17-04-2004, 06:50
In the United States prostitution is illegal.

Not true.

In some parts, it is.

Yes, it is illegal IN MOST STATES. But it is not illegal "in the United States", for there is no federal law banning prostitution.