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DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND

Smeagol-Gollum
31-03-2004, 12:59
DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND SPEAK A LITTLE BRIT
By Jon Kelly And David Edwards


IT HAS been a truism for decades: "Britain and America are two countries separated by the same language."

Not any more, they aren't.

Widely attributed to George Bernard Shaw, these words were spoken half a century ago - and if the great playwright were around today, might he feel a little nostalgic for that transatlantic rift?

Because from cinema to TV, from the internet to our McDonald's, Starbucks and Gap-lined

high streets, the influence of the US is everywhere.

Now, say the critics, the colonialism is complete with the natives - us - speaking the language of the empire - them.

Here are some of the worst culprits worth guarding against. As the French say: "Vive la difference!"

CLOSURE
THERE was a time when this was what happened after last orders at the Crown and Ferret. Now we're talking the pop psychology of Oprah Winfrey.

"Closure" may be more succinct than: "I have finally reconciled myself to my parents' divorce, which for years impeded my psychological development", but who needs it when the old British way - lifelong bitterness - was so much more satisfying?

ISSUES
ONCE teenagers had spots and dodgy hairstyles; today they have "issues". Favourites include minor parental neglect, being denied the latest pair of trainers and the way Mum is so embarrassing in front of friends.

Next time you hear some Avril Lavigne-alike airing her "issues" at the mall (or Tesco's car park), just stop her and say: "Real issues are Iraq or the environment. You haven't got issues, you've got acne."

24/7
WHEN people say they've been working 24/7 all week, they haven't really stayed up for 168 hours without a wink of sleep. If "open all hours" was good enough for Ronnie Barker...

COULD CARE LESS
LIKE "bad" for "good", this expression actually means the exact opposite - that you couldn't

care less. If the trend continues, just think where we'll all end up - black will mean white, yes will mean no and Bush will mean "compassionate, intellectual, pacifist statesman". Next week: Is stupid the new clever?

APARTMENT
IT'S the same size as a flat, it looks like a flat, yet by calling it an apartment, estate agents can charge you an extra £50,000.

All you get extra is the misguided belief that people called Ross and Rachel will drop by for brunch.

Face it: you're renting a one-bed flat over the chippie, and nobody's coming round except for the rent.

REGULAR
FAST-FOOD speak, like fast food itself, threatens our well-being.

Americans like to call normal things "regular" - eg, a regular Coke with fries. But it's no longer just in restaurants that "regular" is replacing "standard".

Now people come from "a regular family" or are described as a "regular guy". Regular means customary, or at spaced intervals, or symmetrical. None of which is the same as a pint-and-a-half bucket of bad coffee or a very dull bloke in the pub.

WHATEVER
ALICIA Silverstone changed the English language when she dismissed her less stylishly attired preppies by saying "whatever" in the 1995 comedy Clueless.

This infuriating phrase is pronounced "whut...evah" and often accompanied by an irritating eye-rolling and sullen jutting of the speaker's half-open

jaw. Jane Austen, whose literary classic Emma was the inspiration for Clueless, must be revolving in her grave.

GARBAGE
GARBAGE are an American band led by Scots singer Shirley Manson. Britain's binmen have always and will always collect rubbish. Likewise, trash-can - the proper term is wastepaper basket or bin. Watch out for Garbage Laden, public enemy No 1.

AWESOME
IF only we could go back to saying things were "nice" or "pleasant". But humbly positive expressions such as "super", "great" and "lovely" have been overwhelmed by super-superlatives. Now everything is "awesome" or "totally fabulous". Can't Gordon Brown do something to keep this rampant "praise inflation" in check?

I'M, LIKE, SOOOO COOL!
AS in: "I'm, like, totally stoked that Dawson's Creek is about to start." Like Paris Hilton, overuse of "like" wastes our time and serves no purpose. Likewise, stretching out "so" is lazy and shows extreme poverty of vocabulary. Why not try out a proper sentence such as: "He was exceptionally cool." Assuming he was of a low temperature, that is.

CAN I GET...?
WHEN Jennifer Aniston says it in Friends, she really means: "May I have..." An example of the States' grab-and-go coffee-bar

culture which sounds outrageously silly over here. The correct response from cafe staff to the question: "Can I get a coffee?" should, of course, be: "No you can't get it. You see, I work here, so that's my job."

SPORTS
FOR some reason, Americans have taken the collective noun "sport", meaning sporting activities, and added a wholly unnecessary "s". Which is almost as annoying as the word "fruits". The term "sports" belongs strictly to sports' day, not sports reporter or sports pages, which should both be singular.

FRIES
NOT content with forcing the Big Mac on us, the McDonald's marketing machine has introduced this verbal takeaway monstrosity to our shores. Note to US corporations: over here, we eat chips. No, that's not a chip. That's a crisp.




Crickey.

Whats happened ta the good ole Australian (Os-Trah-Lee-Ahn) acsent if its a mix between bloody Pom and Yank?

Streuth!

I'll thank the bleedin' crows we got tha bloody better end of the water hole hey mates?

Keep yer evil speak to yerselves and get ya paws of me tucker bag too!

Crickey!
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 16:06
Hear bloody hear to all that!

I really like the term "praise inflation" it's like SOOOOO awesome!
Like totally tubular, no waaaay, like, gag me with a spoon (Frank/Moon-unit Zappa "Valley Girl, 1984"

Btw shouldn't that be "crikey"? Just a thought.
Xx-Rainbow-xx
31-03-2004, 16:08
my friend called the pavement 'the sidewalk' last week, i refused to speak to her for days
Jeruselem
31-03-2004, 16:16
Fair dinkum! We should all speak Aussie. It's bloody great.
imported_Joe Stalin
31-03-2004, 16:29
It's not just the language divide between the UK and USA. What about the divide between England and Scotland?
Stoatin...wonderful
Sweggers...sweets
Bampot...idiot
Eejit...Idiot (again)
greetin...crying
Hurl...throw
Hudgie...free transport
Minger... someone who has bad body odour (yes it began in Scotland)
Carnaptious...argumentative
Stoat the baw...an unpleasant and strange person
Mokkit...filthy
choob...yet another name for idiot
Ginger...any carbonated drink (though usually Irn Bru)
Hingoot...disreputable person
wean...child
messages...food shopping

Does anyone from Scotland have any other words to add?
Xx-Rainbow-xx
31-03-2004, 16:33
there's also a divide between north and south English, i couldn't believe it when i went to Bath (or Barth if you're southern), no one had heard 'owdo' before!
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 16:36
It's not just the language divide between the UK and USA. What about the divide between England and Scotland?

messages...food shopping


Really? Surely not?
Gaspode the Wonder Dog
31-03-2004, 16:41
Does anyone from Scotland have any other words to add?

Skelf.... a splinter
Craggtopia
31-03-2004, 16:45
but I have a souloution....... The Hydrogen bomb! Why whinge when you can oblitrate. If Tony Blair, or whoever the hell is in charge of Russia happens to be drifting through internet forums, just think about it.
imported_Joe Stalin
31-03-2004, 16:46
It's not just the language divide between the UK and USA. What about the divide between England and Scotland?

messages...food shopping


Really? Surely not?
Oh yes, as in Ah'm gonn doon ra shoaps furra messages. But furst ahm gonny take this skelf oot ma finger :lol:
Tumaniaa
31-03-2004, 16:47
DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR AND SPEAK A LITTLE BRIT
By Jon Kelly And David Edwards


IT HAS been a truism for decades: "Britain and America are two countries separated by the same language."

Not any more, they aren't.

Widely attributed to George Bernard Shaw, these words were spoken half a century ago - and if the great playwright were around today, might he feel a little nostalgic for that transatlantic rift?

Because from cinema to TV, from the internet to our McDonald's, Starbucks and Gap-lined

high streets, the influence of the US is everywhere.

Now, say the critics, the colonialism is complete with the natives - us - speaking the language of the empire - them.

Here are some of the worst culprits worth guarding against. As the French say: "Vive la difference!"

CLOSURE
THERE was a time when this was what happened after last orders at the Crown and Ferret. Now we're talking the pop psychology of Oprah Winfrey.

"Closure" may be more succinct than: "I have finally reconciled myself to my parents' divorce, which for years impeded my psychological development", but who needs it when the old British way - lifelong bitterness - was so much more satisfying?

ISSUES
ONCE teenagers had spots and dodgy hairstyles; today they have "issues". Favourites include minor parental neglect, being denied the latest pair of trainers and the way Mum is so embarrassing in front of friends.

Next time you hear some Avril Lavigne-alike airing her "issues" at the mall (or Tesco's car park), just stop her and say: "Real issues are Iraq or the environment. You haven't got issues, you've got acne."

24/7
WHEN people say they've been working 24/7 all week, they haven't really stayed up for 168 hours without a wink of sleep. If "open all hours" was good enough for Ronnie Barker...

COULD CARE LESS
LIKE "bad" for "good", this expression actually means the exact opposite - that you couldn't

care less. If the trend continues, just think where we'll all end up - black will mean white, yes will mean no and Bush will mean "compassionate, intellectual, pacifist statesman". Next week: Is stupid the new clever?

APARTMENT
IT'S the same size as a flat, it looks like a flat, yet by calling it an apartment, estate agents can charge you an extra £50,000.

All you get extra is the misguided belief that people called Ross and Rachel will drop by for brunch.

Face it: you're renting a one-bed flat over the chippie, and nobody's coming round except for the rent.

REGULAR
FAST-FOOD speak, like fast food itself, threatens our well-being.

Americans like to call normal things "regular" - eg, a regular Coke with fries. But it's no longer just in restaurants that "regular" is replacing "standard".

Now people come from "a regular family" or are described as a "regular guy". Regular means customary, or at spaced intervals, or symmetrical. None of which is the same as a pint-and-a-half bucket of bad coffee or a very dull bloke in the pub.

WHATEVER
ALICIA Silverstone changed the English language when she dismissed her less stylishly attired preppies by saying "whatever" in the 1995 comedy Clueless.

This infuriating phrase is pronounced "whut...evah" and often accompanied by an irritating eye-rolling and sullen jutting of the speaker's half-open

jaw. Jane Austen, whose literary classic Emma was the inspiration for Clueless, must be revolving in her grave.

GARBAGE
GARBAGE are an American band led by Scots singer Shirley Manson. Britain's binmen have always and will always collect rubbish. Likewise, trash-can - the proper term is wastepaper basket or bin. Watch out for Garbage Laden, public enemy No 1.

AWESOME
IF only we could go back to saying things were "nice" or "pleasant". But humbly positive expressions such as "super", "great" and "lovely" have been overwhelmed by super-superlatives. Now everything is "awesome" or "totally fabulous". Can't Gordon Brown do something to keep this rampant "praise inflation" in check?

I'M, LIKE, SOOOO COOL!
AS in: "I'm, like, totally stoked that Dawson's Creek is about to start." Like Paris Hilton, overuse of "like" wastes our time and serves no purpose. Likewise, stretching out "so" is lazy and shows extreme poverty of vocabulary. Why not try out a proper sentence such as: "He was exceptionally cool." Assuming he was of a low temperature, that is.

CAN I GET...?
WHEN Jennifer Aniston says it in Friends, she really means: "May I have..." An example of the States' grab-and-go coffee-bar

culture which sounds outrageously silly over here. The correct response from cafe staff to the question: "Can I get a coffee?" should, of course, be: "No you can't get it. You see, I work here, so that's my job."

SPORTS
FOR some reason, Americans have taken the collective noun "sport", meaning sporting activities, and added a wholly unnecessary "s". Which is almost as annoying as the word "fruits". The term "sports" belongs strictly to sports' day, not sports reporter or sports pages, which should both be singular.

FRIES
NOT content with forcing the Big Mac on us, the McDonald's marketing machine has introduced this verbal takeaway monstrosity to our shores. Note to US corporations: over here, we eat chips. No, that's not a chip. That's a crisp.




Crickey.

Whats happened ta the good ole Australian (Os-Trah-Lee-Ahn) acsent if its a mix between bloody Pom and Yank?

Streuth!

I'll thank the bleedin' crows we got tha bloody better end of the water hole hey mates?

Keep yer evil speak to yerselves and get ya paws of me tucker bag too!

Crickey!


:lol: :lol:
Reminds me of the "American-British Wardrobe dictionary" :
"Rhinestone studded jumpsuit : No British equivalent"
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 16:57
It's not just the language divide between the UK and USA. What about the divide between England and Scotland?

messages...food shopping


Really? Surely not?
Oh yes, as in Ah'm gonn doon ra shoaps furra messages. But furst ahm gonny take this skelf oot ma finger :lol:


lol. Ouch sounds painfull
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 17:00
It's not just the language divide between the UK and USA. What about the divide between England and Scotland?

messages...food shopping


Really? Surely not?
Oh yes, as in Ah'm gonn doon ra shoaps furra messages. But furst ahm gonny take this skelf oot ma finger :lol:


lol. Ouch sounds painfull
imported_Joe Stalin
31-03-2004, 17:18
A man goes into the City Bakeries and enquires:
Is that a cream doughnut or a merringue? The assistant replies,

Naw yer right son it's a cream doughnut!

Geddit? :lol:
Upper Cet Kola Ytovia
31-03-2004, 17:19
Nothing like a little nationalistic intellectual chest-thumping in the morning...

...

...and it always cracks me up when people are threatened by McDonald's.
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 17:43
Nothing like a little nationalistic intellectual chest-thumping in the morning...

...

...and it always cracks me up when people are threatened by McDonald's.
but they are threatening - or at least whats in 'em
Bacchical
31-03-2004, 17:59
Meh, in America, we can't even keep a single dialect between the various cities and states, nonetheless the rest of the English-speaking world...
Naked George Clooney
31-03-2004, 18:12
It's not just the language divide between the UK and USA. What about the divide between England and Scotland?
Stoatin...wonderful
Sweggers...sweets
Bampot...idiot
Eejit...Idiot (again)
greetin...crying
Hurl...throw
Hudgie...free transport
Minger... someone who has bad body odour (yes it began in Scotland)
Carnaptious...argumentative
Stoat the baw...an unpleasant and strange person
Mokkit...filthy
choob...yet another name for idiot
Ginger...any carbonated drink (though usually Irn Bru)
Hingoot...disreputable person
wean...child
messages...food shopping

Does anyone from Scotland have any other words to add?

Crabbit....irritable
Ken......know as in "Di y' no ken what I mean?"
Dreich.....a state of weather whereby its cold- but not freezing theres a breeze...but is not windy and its almost raining but never really pouring it down. as in "Aw man whits whi this weather the day eh? Aye its a dreich day awright"
Boak......vomit as in "Chrissake man that third helpin a vindaloo went an guied me the boak."
and there are loads mair (more)
Kryozerkia
31-03-2004, 18:25
Did ya see the passing Canuck in the Kenora dinner jacket writing a cheque for a chesterfield he was buying from a snowbilly, eh....?

;) *snicker*
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 18:29
Did ya see the passing Canuck in the Kenora dinner jacket writing a cheque for a chesterfield he was buying from a snowbilly, eh....?

;) *snicker*

What the f***?
Kryozerkia
31-03-2004, 18:31
Did ya see the passing Canuck in the Kenora dinner jacket writing a cheque for a chesterfield he was buying from a snowbilly, eh....?

;) *snicker*

What the f***?

That was Canadian speak! ;)
Zarozina
31-03-2004, 18:38
Did ya see the passing Canuck in the Kenora dinner jacket writing a cheque for a chesterfield he was buying from a snowbilly, eh....?

;) *snicker*

What the f***?

That was Canadian speak! ;)

Translation anyone?
imported_Joe Stalin
31-03-2004, 18:45
[quote]

Crabbit....irritable
Ken......know as in "Di y' no ken what I mean?"
Dreich.....a state of weather whereby its cold- but not freezing theres a breeze...but is not windy and its almost raining but never really pouring it down. as in "Aw man whits whi this weather the day eh? Aye its a dreich day awright"
Boak......vomit as in "Chrissake man that third helpin a vindaloo went an guied me the boak."
and there are loads mair (more)
I love "Boak" but it is even better when used in the context of "dry boak" as in I saw him eatin his ain snawter and it ferr gied me ra dry Boak